Top 10 Most Memorable Moments from FM18:

[FM Ferengi]

The hosts have decided to open submissions to make a list of the Top 10 Most Memorable Moments from FM18.

Somebody has already started the dead chat conversation, and we've been discussing the setup, scumlists, deadlynches, and who we think is the savage godfather!

We want to gather a list of the most noteworthy moments: the good, the facepalm inducing, and the bashing-head-into-wall-bad moments. Feel free to post moments in this thread, or submit them via PM to me. Moments can be from nightchat, daychat, or even conspiracy theories posted in deadchat.

Here's an example of one of my most memorable moments from FM18 so far:

FM Cohen as the arsonist who tried to pull a Wreck-it-Ralph and refused to douse or burn anyone.

Commentary:
As a host this was particularly frustrating since the setup's KPN was balanced around having a neutral evil killer. We also thought it would be cool to have a "scum trial by day" to balance the town's actual trial by day. What I mean by this is that the arsonist can douse someone at night, and their doused target should try to act scummy enough in day to "convince" the arsonist that they are scum and should be allowed to live past the arson's dayburn. This had the potential to create a really interesting dynamic of deception that ultimately never got to play out.

However, I have to say it's pretty memorable that the "arsonist" never burned anybody. Can a serial killer be called a serial killer if he doesn't kill anyone? Can one be called an arsonist if they never play with fire?

Link to relevant post: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post322464

[FM Colmyer]

My whole blackmail fuck up.
Not sure if completely facepalm inducing, as it wasn't that bad of a move after all, and at this point I was probably better off dead.
BUT STILL

I'llforeverbemadaboutit.

[FM Cohen]

Good times:
Wifom battle between Cohen and Cafarelli
Cafarelli being drugged n1 and me lying about poison (suggesting drugs)
Me giving a 100% solid explanation that there could be 2 DDs (which no one believed me... well guess what!)
Cafarelli ignores my defense -
d3 totally guesses my invest pairing while having NOT checked me
Not knowing what really happened, I wifom and claim that he didn't check me and reject his invest pairing
Cafarelli ignores the fact that he could very well be wrong and cannot be certain that I'm that invest pairing and continues to tunnel vision me
My defense was 100% solid minus a role claim (which is stupid for a town to do when someone gets your invest pairing wrong)

all I can say is GJ.


facepalm inducing moments:
Parker, Parker, Parker. I've lost count how much facepalming I've done because of Parker.



bashing-head-into-wall-bad moment:

Mafia chat night 6 being a circlejerk quality flame war.

oh and the mafia were 1 minute away from having their night actions be:

GF - kill (someone)
?? - Nothing
?? - Nothing
?? - Nothing
?? - Nothing
Buchwalter - Roll in his grave.

Luckily, the gf posted actions for everyone right before the deadline.

[FM Cohen]

I'd like to nominate this retarded plan to let the kidnapper live and "help" town as another bashing-head-into-wall-bad moment.

TOWN!!!! WHY YOU SOO DUMB!

[FM Buchwalter]

facepalm inducing moments:
Parker, Parker, Parker. I've lost count how much facepalming I've done because of Parker.

I was just about to suggest this, but more along the line of: "Every time Parker open his mouth."

bashing-head-into-wall-bad moment:

Mafia chat night 6 being a circlejerk quality flame war.

oh and the mafia were 1 minute away from having their night actions be:

GF - kill (someone)
?? - Nothing
?? - Nothing
?? - Nothing
?? - Nothing
Buchwalter - Roll in his grave.

Luckily, the gf posted actions for everyone right before the deadline.

Sad thing is that I can see this happening.
I guess they were all upset and crying about my untimely death? XD

[FM Monroe]

I'd like to nominate this retarded plan to let the kidnapper live and "help" town as another bashing-head-into-wall-bad moment.

TOWN!!!! WHY YOU SOO DUMB!

I agree. I was like wut? You really think you can control ANY mafia role to do your bidding? Especially when there's still 5 left alive.

I have the vague hope that maybe they're faking it and trying to get some more information out of the day before finally hammering him. But we'll see.

[Dunn]

I'd like to nominate this retarded plan to let the kidnapper live and "help" town as another bashing-head-into-wall-bad moment.

TOWN!!!! WHY YOU SOO DUMB!

I, too, would like this to be one of the moments. Got lynched and stuff. 'Day 6: Obviously Evil"

[FM Morgan]

When I figured out who the Savage GF was and thought, "Bull shit, it's this kid?"

Also when the Savage GF decided to start killing and save the remaining recruits for the end game...

[FM Monroe]

When I figured out who the Savage GF was and thought, "Bull shit, it's this kid?"

Also when the Savage GF decided to start killing and save the remaining recruits for the end game...

Donnellol?

[FM Cafarelli]

1) when i guessed he is drug dealer/kidnapper and he was actually arsonist but the pairing was stil right
2) when i got cohen lynched on the basis that there are not 2 drug dealers which turned out to be wrong and cohen was still scum

[FM Cafarelli]

oh and 3) when dunn tried to side with the mayor to not get lynched

[FM Spartacus]

Night 1 to Night 7 Mafia night chat. Not sure about the other 3 points in the top 10.

[FM Morgan]

Lictmann's rage on D8.

[FM Phelps]

Parkers follow up to Lichtmanns rage and epic logic about lurking is a town tell.

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post332571

[FM Lichtmann]

Oh my rage was infuriating, but i do think thats a great moment. our mayor desrves lvp or mvp scum XD

I hate her becasue she fails to see facts sometimes.

[FM Phelps]

I've seen worse than Parker. Not her fault when nobody more experienced bothers to lead town. Oh wait we shot them all early hueheuheueh

[FM Cafarelli]

oh i forgot one important: how the hosts trolled us including 2 drug dealers making the maf more or less OP^^

[FM Bishop]

Stop whining about the DDs. It's your fault to put so much weight onto your assumptions concerning the setup.

[FM Cafarelli]

come on -.-
assumptions on the role list are important; i did not give them too much weight because i never thought them to be 100% safe (see my probability post in the other thread). it can't even be my fault because i didn't do anything wrong.

also i'm not even talking (i wouldn't call it 'whining') about the unpredictability of the setup but of the overpoweredness of the mafia.

[FM Cafarelli]

also another: how hosts tried to avoid the 'sheep the PRs' but in the end all sheep (bad) mayor

[FM Cafarelli]

come on -.-
assumptions on the role list are important; i did not give them too much weight because i never thought them to be 100% safe (see my probability post in the other thread). it can't even be my fault because i didn't do anything wrong.

also i'm not even talking (i wouldn't call it 'whining') about the unpredictability of the setup but about the overpoweredness of the mafia.

corrected

[FM Ferengi]

come on -.-
assumptions on the role list are important; i did not give them too much weight because i never thought them to be 100% safe (see my probability post in the other thread). it can't even be my fault because i didn't do anything wrong.

also i'm not even talking (i wouldn't call it 'whining') about the unpredictability of the setup but of the overpoweredness of the mafia.

I think that all factions were pretty OP in this setup. (Not just the mafia).

Savages can create their choice of investigative PRs.
Mafia has immense potential to cause confusion.
Town has a ton of non investigative PRs: just check the graveyard. Additionally I think escort is one of the most powerful roles in mafia, especially with this OoO; and town got 2 of them.

also another: how hosts tried to avoid the 'sheep the PRs' but in the end all sheep (bad) mayor

Wow I didn't even realize that, but you're right!

[FM Bishop]

The grass is always greener on the other side. I do not think that the Mafia was overpowered. No extra kpn, no investigation role - just some utility and plain old deception.

[FM Lichtmann]

also another: how hosts tried to avoid the 'sheep the PRs' but in the end all sheep (bad) mayor

what would be funny is if damus had mayor. it would be like, scums are these ppl gg, doc/bus driver on me. that would be oped, he would do day one reveal and be like FUCK YOU ALL IM MAYOR BITCH, or even funnier/horrable for town would be n1, mayor shot by random maf kill. and it was titus, i would be laughing so hard.

[FM Lichtmann]

also this

-Deadlynch FM Cafarelli

lets see who you really are

[FM Lichtmann]

also this

-Deadlynch FM Cafarelli

lets see who you really are

qq wrong locations... add this to list XD

[FM Hogeboom]

also this

-Deadlynch FM Cafarelli

lets see who you really are

ITS APACHE

LIKE 100% SURE

I already correctly guessed him last FM, it's the same now.

Some may now know who I am (and some already do). :P

[FM Cafarelli]

the confusion's not the problem, i just think they have too much support roles. blackmailer, drug dealer, consort and kidnapper are all support roles. ok 3 of them can act as deception roles but in this game they didnt (at least when i lived). blackmailer caused mainly suicides when targets weren't killed anyway, drug dealer acted as buffed consort, kidnapper hm i don't know the reasons for his bussings but it didn't cause confusion


don't deadlynch me ;) someone already guessed my COM. and obviously it's not ika because that's lichtmann^^

hm who guessed my COM first last game? don krieg. hm damn it who was this i dont want to log off to check
noctiz i think. correct?

[FM Lichtmann]

the confusion's not the problem, i just think they have too much support roles. blackmailer, drug dealer, consort and kidnapper are all support roles. ok 3 of them can act as deception roles but in this game they didnt (at least when i lived). blackmailer caused mainly suicides when targets weren't killed anyway, drug dealer acted as buffed consort, kidnapper hm i don't know the reasons for his bussings but it didn't cause confusion


don't deadlynch me ;) someone already guessed my COM. and obviously it's not ika because that's lichtmann^^

hm who guessed my COM first last game? don krieg. hm damn it who was this i dont want to log off to check
noctiz i think. correct?

Well at first some ppl count guess my com, it just make it apparent when i die.

I know one person couldnt figure it out

[FM Hogeboom]

the confusion's not the problem, i just think they have too much support roles. blackmailer, drug dealer, consort and kidnapper are all support roles. ok 3 of them can act as deception roles but in this game they didnt (at least when i lived). blackmailer caused mainly suicides when targets weren't killed anyway, drug dealer acted as buffed consort, kidnapper hm i don't know the reasons for his bussings but it didn't cause confusion


don't deadlynch me ;) someone already guessed my COM. and obviously it's not ika because that's lichtmann^^

hm who guessed my COM first last game? don krieg. hm damn it who was this i dont want to log off to check
noctiz i think. correct?

Hallo Kamerad!

[FM Ferengi]

Hallo Kamerad!

So many Germans!!

[FM Hogeboom]

So many Germans!!

You think so? I only know of 3 including me. :o

[FM Ferengi]

You think so? I only know of 3 including me. :o

Apache, CmG, NoctiZ, Phyr, Zane...
And I think Biersteker and LeaD?

[FM Hogeboom]

Apache, CmG, NoctiZ, Phyr, Zane...
And I think Biersteker and LeaD?

I remember reading a conversation between CmG and LeaD so that's true. Didn't know about Phyr and Zane but barely know them and Biersteker is German? Maybe I just forgot but that's cool.

[FM Phelps]

Biersteker is from norway

[Alphege]

If we can start voting for player choice MVPs...

Most Pro-Scum MVP: FM Parker
Most Pro-Town MVP: FM Dunn

[FM Morgan]

If we can start voting for player choice MVPs...

Most Pro-Scum MVP: FM Parker
Most Pro-Town MVP: FM Dunn

We should like, so do this.

[FM Monroe]

There wasn't anything pro-town about Dunn aside from him presenting us his role on a silver platter through a dreadfully obvious kidnapper article.

He didn't actually help the town. I think Buchwalter earns that title more for his claim tables (though not his notes on players).

[FM Ferengi]

Players choice cannot be voted on until the epilogue when all nightchats are opened and you guys can gain a full picture of each player's contributions to their factions.

That being said, feel free to use this thread to suggest minor awards for players who did something particularly memorable during the game.

[FM Phelps]

I nominate Hitler

[FM Hogeboom]

I posted like once. Nominate me for flying under the radar for the whole time I lived!

[FM Lichtmann]

nominate titus for lynching the doc

nominate me for raging at titus

[Alphege]

There wasn't anything pro-town about Dunn aside from him presenting us his role on a silver platter through a dreadfully obvious kidnapper article.

He didn't actually help the town. I think Buchwalter earns that title more for his claim tables (though not his notes on players).

I was thinking the
Option 1: Town sticks to Kidnapper's plan, has minor chance.
Option 2: Town lynches Kidnapper, loses miserable and hilariously.
situation.
Just saying, I said if I was lynched Town would lose, and they will. Odds were low with my plan, but higher than the sure fire lose that they will suffer now.

[FM Monroe]

The plan posted by Dunn was terrible and would eliminate any chance of winning the town had, because the mafia was way too powerful at the time. Lynching Dunn was the right thing to do. In fact, he should've been lynched the day before.

The reason the town lost wasn't because they didn't listen to Dunn, it's because they lynched the doctor.

[FM Monroe]

If you seriously think the town would stand the best chance random lynching people until they got lucky with the savage godfather, you must be out of your mind

[Alphege]

The plan posted by Dunn was terrible and would eliminate any chance of winning the town had, because the mafia was way too powerful at the time. Lynching Dunn was the right thing to do. In fact, he should've been lynched the day before.

The reason the town lost wasn't because they didn't listen to Dunn, it's because they lynched the doctor.

If you seriously think the town would stand the best chance random lynching people until they got lucky with the savage godfather, you must be out of your mind

Day before... yea. lol. But the plan Dunn posted was pretty pro-town. It gave them a, minimal, but small chance to win. They decided against it.. and what is going to happen? If you seriously think the town would stand a chance lynching people that mathematically guaranteed a lose you must be out of your mind :P

[FM Bishop]

If I had to sum the game up to this point, it would be something like this:
Arsonist doesn't douse. Mayor does what he pleases.
The last statement would prolly be "[faction] wins."

[FM Monroe]

Day before... yea. lol. But the plan Dunn posted was pretty pro-town. It gave them a, minimal, but small chance to win. They decided against it.. and what is going to happen? If you seriously think the town would stand a chance lynching people that mathematically guaranteed a lose you must be out of your mind :P

Well your math is terrible then. If they had kept lynching scum, they could definitely still have won. All it would take was a successful doctor heal or one scum team hitting a target on the other scum team and the town would be back in the game.

If they had lynched random people until they magically hit the savage godfather, they would just be giving the game away to the mafia. You don't need math for it, I think that should be blatantly obvious. If you think that plan wasn't absolutely terrible for the town, you're delusional. The only thing the town could do to win in this situation was whittle down numbers of both scum factions and force them to oppose each other. Especially considering lynching the savage GF likely wouldn't even eliminate their night kill.

I think you're just annoyed the town didn't go with the 99% mafia victory plan.

[Forum Mafia GM]

Facepalm inducing moment: The forums went down night 10!

Bashing-head-into-wall moments: Day 10, where we will be playing old school voting and the hosts will be spending double time checking votes. (vote counter no longer working)

[FM Lichtmann]

Facepalm inducing moment: The forums went down night 10!

Bashing-head-into-wall moments: Day 10, where we will be playing old school voting and the hosts will be spending double time checking votes. (vote counter no longer working)

fake votes ftw ;)