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    Re: Day 6

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Galloway View Post
    Its a risk. A huge risk to take letting a confirmed scum live another day to scheme with his allies. We can plan all we want and thats no problem but here we are relying on a scum to help us move on to success. We cannot let the day go without a lynch thats for sure but we cannot blindly trust Dunn the scum here. Leary is definatly showing scum colors and with Dunn trying to lynch him we can be assured that Leary is at least not mafia. I can agree with pressure and going from there but out right lyching based on a scum's word is ridiculous. Besides, if anything I would feel much better lynching Hopgood, based on his connection with Ballard, than Leary based on Dunns word. However my stance is solely based on the fact that it is a scum telling us what to do. If there is anything else showing that Leary is put on the spotlight because of things not related to Dunn I am more willing to pursue him. Based on my own investigations I can come to the conclusion that Leary has played before and that would mean he is more skilled at blending and his posts support that aspect of things.

    tl;dr If there is more to Leary than Dunns word yes. Otherwise no.
    Leary had actually FoSed me on Day 4. So had Hopgood. Ballard did too. It links the three together in a nice little package. That's why I started this route.

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    Re: Day 6

    Finally done reading. Again sorry for my lurking, I had so much stuff to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Leary View Post
    Dunn never voted for Buchwalter. Heck he even tried to defend him til the last moment.
    He's the kidnapper, nothing more, nothing less.

    I also pointed out the possibility of hardcore lurkers being scum, since they aren't even suspected at this point, atleast from what i can tell, given Parker asking for reads.

    Who is Green? Where did Kelso disappear to?

    Kelso might've been a gamma turned Savage. Green no idea, i don't even remember reading any of his posts, so probably scum.
    I didn't disapeared, I was busy, as I said last day. And I was reading as fast as possible right now.

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Hopgood View Post
    I have no leads
    Ill just die then if youre not happy about it
    Is it possible savage to recruit mayor?
    I know he didnt get converted because of the kill
    Could dunn swapped himself with someone else and that person got roleblocked?
    I think he could be kidnapper
    Since mayor is hammering i cant do nothing
    I think I know what you are now, nice soft claiming (If it's real)

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Parker View Post
    Let's at least start by making a list of possible Savage Godfathers. Then we eliminate one by one until we determine who we are going to lynch tomorrow. Anyone who has been roleblocked on nights 1 or 2 is excluded. Note: This list has all possibles, not just likely.

    I'm not dodging the obvious accusation of Green and Kelso. I'm thinking about the proper procedures. Before the savages started killing, my main priority for the day was to try and out the witch. That would mean rb the Kidnapper and soma can be passed freely.

    My suspect list

    Ackerman
    Black
    Chapman
    Donnelly
    Fontaine
    Galleta
    Green (kinda liked him as the witch before Dunn said it though)
    Kalou
    Kelso
    Leary
    Lichtmann
    Mason
    Mendez
    Rose
    Ryan
    You can remove me from your suspect list, I'm not worth lynching (I mean in the next days) since it will waste a lynch for town and possibly cost us the game since we must lynch a GF at all cost(preferably savage)

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Parker View Post
    Ok, Cafarelli, Mendez... these are my top suspects for savage GF. Any comments?

    Fontaine
    Kalou
    Kelso
    Leary
    Lichtmann
    Mason
    Rose
    Ryan

    Also, forget Phelps being an Escort.

    Phelps is likely Consort
    Observation: Phelps spent a lot of time pushing the Earle lynch.
    Observation: Phelps spent a lot of time pushing the Cafarelli is bad angle.
    Observation: Blocks Colmyer on the same day that his blackmail is entered.
    Premise: A blocker blocking the same person who is blackmailed day 1 is too suspicious.
    Premise: A blocker blocking a bus driver is suspicious.
    Conclusion: Phelps is consort.
    I have a comment, like I said above, I'm no scum.
    The only proof I have though is that I keep trying to help town with the best of my ability (and regarding the time I have)

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Black View Post
    Theres no way theres a jail at this point
    You mean a Jailor? Because we could have one... He just couldn't do anything since we lynched people every night.

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    Re: Day 6

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Hopgood View Post
    Alright my role may save the town, i am going to role claim in a minute.
    Odds are not good for the town right now, and I decided to lurk, sheep and play dumb until time is right.
    I think this time is right.
    Do not lynch Dunn!
    Not sure it's good to reveal another TPR... even if it's the only way to help town if you are what I think you are.

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    Re: Day 6

    Reasons I act like this is to get targets off of my back
    I am Jailor.
    Jailed Colymer night three. He told me everything, his fos, who he think is scum, his blackmail, and his role.
    He is the reason why I voted you on Day 4. He was suspicous of you because he think you know a lot about his blackmail before he revealed on day 3.

    I did not jail any other nights because of lynch.

    I replaced someone on Night 2/Day 2.
    The person who was here before me messaged the host to not jail night 1 even though you cant jail night 1
    I was roleblocked night 1.

    I hope this reveal help the town
    I am a killing role and I revealed now with hopes to kill scums with soma.
    My plan may backfire and I may die tonight.

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    Re: Day 6

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Hopgood View Post
    Reasons I act like this is to get targets off of my back
    I am Jailor.
    Jailed Colymer night three. He told me everything, his fos, who he think is scum, his blackmail, and his role.
    He is the reason why I voted you on Day 4. He was suspicous of you because he think you know a lot about his blackmail before he revealed on day 3.

    I did not jail any other nights because of lynch.

    I replaced someone on Night 2/Day 2.
    The person who was here before me messaged the host to not jail night 1 even though you cant jail night 1
    I was roleblocked night 1.

    I hope this reveal help the town
    I am a killing role and I revealed now with hopes to kill scums with soma.
    My plan may backfire and I may die tonight.
    Easily checked if we truly have a coroner, but I don't trust it.

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    Re: Day 6

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Hopgood View Post
    Reasons I act like this is to get targets off of my back
    I am Jailor.
    Jailed Colymer night three. He told me everything, his fos, who he think is scum, his blackmail, and his role.
    He is the reason why I voted you on Day 4. He was suspicous of you because he think you know a lot about his blackmail before he revealed on day 3.

    I did not jail any other nights because of lynch.

    I replaced someone on Night 2/Day 2.
    The person who was here before me messaged the host to not jail night 1 even though you cant jail night 1
    I was roleblocked night 1.

    I hope this reveal help the town
    I am a killing role and I revealed now with hopes to kill scums with soma.
    My plan may backfire and I may die tonight.
    This is a load of bullshit. A) Colmyer would have admitted jailed. He admitted practically everything else. I cannot see why he wouldn't claim... oh by the way.. jailed. B) You agreed with Ballard and FoSed me for those reasons if that was the truth. C) Also look at the timing of your reveal. You were not the main target of the lynch at any time. Now you reveal. What does it gain us... nothing?

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Kelso View Post
    Not sure it's good to reveal another TPR... even if it's the only way to help town if you are what I think you are.
    I get that normally. Yet, I'm reasonably certain that Hopgood is no TPR. Look at the timing of his claim. I never threatened recently to lynch Hopgood. I threatened Leary.

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    Re: Day 6

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Parker View Post
    This is a load of bullshit. A) Colmyer would have admitted jailed. He admitted practically everything else. I cannot see why he wouldn't claim... oh by the way.. jailed. B) You agreed with Ballard and FoSed me for those reasons if that was the truth. C) Also look at the timing of your reveal. You were not the main target of the lynch at any time. Now you reveal. What does it gain us... nothing?



    I get that normally. Yet, I'm reasonably certain that Hopgood is no TPR. Look at the timing of his claim. I never threatened recently to lynch Hopgood. I threatened Leary.
    *shrug* everything i said is true
    I got bored Ill post everything Colmyer said in Jail chat

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    Re: Day 6

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Dunn View Post
    Interesting. Jailor, sadly, is not an increased KPN, unless maximized with Soma.
    This reveal was il-advised since you have revealed to the Savages, and Mafia, and would have been the Town that would have decided things on the tie-day.

    Why would you claim this?
    I got bored of no killing and i was certain to die in 2 nights from now

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    Re: Day 6

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Parker View Post
    This is a load of bullshit. A) Colmyer would have admitted jailed. He admitted practically everything else. I cannot see why he wouldn't claim... oh by the way.. jailed. B) You agreed with Ballard and FoSed me for those reasons if that was the truth. C) Also look at the timing of your reveal. You were not the main target of the lynch at any time. Now you reveal. What does it gain us... nothing?



    I get that normally. Yet, I'm reasonably certain that Hopgood is no TPR. Look at the timing of his claim. I never threatened recently to lynch Hopgood. I threatened Leary.
    He's trying to help us by saying that with soma he can kill 2 target in one night instead of a lynch, no?
    If it's true, it would help a lot! (If he have soma right now)

    Personally, I see a town here trying to help. (But I may be wrong)

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    Re: Day 6

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Kelso View Post
    He's trying to help us by saying that with soma he can kill 2 target in one night instead of a lynch, no?
    If it's true, it would help a lot! (If he have soma right now)

    Personally, I see a town here trying to help. (But I may be wrong)
    Hmm. Soma does net you something, if it can get to him.

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    Re: Day 6

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Parker View Post
    Oh this ought to be some rank bullshit. Go ahead, post the chats.

    Keep in mind that Colmyer, who was going to die, said nothing publicly about who he "really suspected". Why not talk? Colmyer was going to suicide anyway.
    Note that we weren't sure that time if it were BMed or DD-BDed.
    You don't suicide if you break a DD-BM right?.

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    Re: Day 6

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Parker View Post
    There is no blacksmith. The only semi-legitimate claim would be from McKelty. Ackerman, hahaha, who waits 6 days to reveal beneficial feedback.

    There is no jailor. Hopgood was in a hurry to hammer people. How in God's name is that consistent with Jailor?
    This too. No way in hell Hopgood is Jailor.
    With this recent information what are we doing.
    I am still hard on for Hopgood because of his connection to ballard being much more evident than Leary but It aint my call.
    As long as we don't have morons here who lynch in three hours of daytime and we use the day like it should be im comfortable with switching targets a bit.

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    Re: Day 6

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Parker View Post
    There is no blacksmith. The only semi-legitimate claim would be from McKelty. Ackerman, hahaha, who waits 6 days to reveal beneficial feedback.

    There is no jailor. Hopgood was in a hurry to hammer people. How in God's name is that consistent with Jailor?
    Well, if I was the Jailor, knowing that you can't possibly say " Hey guys! I am the jailor! Do not lynch today so I can dosomething!" the only decent thing to do if trying to lynch scum... You know what I mean?

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    Re: Day 6

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Kelso View Post
    Well, if I was the Jailor, knowing that you can't possibly say " Hey guys! I am the jailor! Do not lynch today so I can dosomething!" the only decent thing to do if trying to lynch scum... You know what I mean?
    True but you'd attempt to slow down the Biggs lynch. Instead, Hopgood hammers it after lurking all damn day.

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    Re: Day 6

    (His first post in jail)

    That's a very interesting decision, sir.

    For now I will assume you are a Jailor and not a Devourer (And that the Hidden Any is NOT a Witch/Neutral Killer like these silly folks this it is. I'm pretty sure our Hidden Neutral is simply a Witch... Well, I hope.)

    On the good side of things, both situations (If I am released or if I am executed) are a win situation for the town.

    My death would clear out a lot of confusion and potentially expose the scums (One of them being one of those three; Cohen, Cafarelli or Morgan.)



    I am nothing more than a simple .



    I was NOT Blackmailed on Night 1. Everyone has been wrong about this in the day chat.

    This obviously means that my Roleblock feedback was real, and that I wasn't blackmailed on Day 1.

    I was on Night 2, though.

    As many said, a good player would wait on the second day to do his Blackmail task so that the Blackmailer could not blackmail someone again.

    Problem is; they threatened me. They may not set conditions to their blackmail, but they can very well decide to do this (Don't worry, I did ask the FMGM if I could quote it before posting it


    You have been blackmailed. Here is a note listing the blackmailer's demands: <font color="#FF0000">All of your posts must only contain lines spoken by characters in the play Cleansed by Sarah Kane (the full text of which may be found here: https://www.scribd.com/doc/24140567/Sarah-Kane-Cleansed), which will be hereby be referred to in this note as &quot;the play&quot;. Your posts may not contain any words that are not in the script of the play. You must post the lines exactly as they appear in the play: you may not edit them in any way (this includes changing the order of the words, changing the words themselves, and adding ellipses in the middle of a quote to bridge two separate lines). Your posts must contain lines from the play and nothing else. This extends to everything that is visible to others when you post, including (but not limited to) your avatar and signature. You may not use your posts, your avatar, your signature, or anything else that is visible to other players to claim or in any way hint that you are blackmailed or that your speech patterns are not of your own free will. You may not put quotes around the text, or change the punctuation of it in any way. You must post it as if it is coming from you directly. If you don't complete this task on Day 2, we will kill you at night.


    I did think that the fact that they would use a kill on a Delta was not so bad, and that they may have not gone through with it. Problem is, I was the one that got roleblocked (Which I now assume was from a Consort and not an Escort. Mafia probably planned this through.)

    I decided it would NOT be a good idea to wait for the second day. At the time, I did not know about Morgan. I simply started spamming lines from the play, in hopes of someone finding what this was about. (I apologize for somewhat shitting up the day with that. I thought it was necessary for people to find out what this gibberish was so that they could understand and see my limitations. I was somewhat hoping for someone to go through the play and see what lines I could use (As I was obviously limited to those.) As soon as Parker found out about the play, the spam stopped.

    You probably thought this through a lot before deciding to jail me. If you did, you probably went through my posts and looked for possible hints and others.

    I, for one, do not believe there are two Blackmailers. Considering how extremely strong the role is, I seriously doubt it. Two Drug Dealers might be possible though.

    If you noticed; I started regularly saying these lines;



    He was an addict.

    He died of an overdose.



    I was actually ready to reveal my Blackmail to the town. In my mind, there was a fair chance that I was simply drugged to believe I was. I was ready to take the risk if town somewhat gave me a hint, a sign... anything.

    As a Delta, even if I died, the information it would've given to the town in the day would've been very beneficial. It would also have confirmed Morgan as blackmailed.



    I was extremely limited, but with these lines (Post #758 onwards)



    Do you take it up the arse?

    No.



    Do it to me.

    Yes.



    Then love me. Fucking love me.

    Yes.



    I was trying to tell Parker (And the others) that I was roleblocked for real.

    But of course, people couldn't pick up on such a dense message. I expected people to question it ( I could have answered that, since it was not related to the blackmail.)



    You may also have noticed these lines;



    Doctor. Please. Doctor.



    Doctor.

    Will you help me?



    You'll be moved.



    I was really hoping to pass the message that I needed to be, in some way, moved or healed (I honestly believe the Mafia is going to try to hit me tonight, IF THEY DON'T BLACKMAIL ME AGAIN, which is even more likely.)

    I'm not sure if this is the reason you decided to jail me. If you caught up on that, kudos to you.



    There is one thing though.

    I reviewed all my posts and double checked them with the play to make sure I made no mistake. But the host cannot confirm to me that my task has been finished. I guess we may learn about it tomorrow if someone else is blackmailed (Though I doubt the Mafia would simply blackmail someone else and tell them to use such language that would obviously tell everyone they are blackmailed)

    If I made a mistake, my task is considered not completed, and I think that no matter if you execute me or not tonight, I will suicide. I do believe I did everything right though.

    Just do keep in mind that I might be blackmailed again (If they didn't try to hit me/If I didn't suicide.)



    Sorry for the big wall of text. It's past 1 AM over here so I'll need to head to bed, but tomorrow we can discuss some and I can tell you about who I think is scum. A few people struck me as extremely suspicious after today's events.

    (End of his first post in jail)

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    Re: Day 6

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Galloway View Post
    1) There is no Blackmailor. See anyone with guns or vests running around? I thought not.

    2) There is no Jailor. See anyone claiming jailed here? No.


    Study up kids this is how to fail 101 by Dunn + Kelso.
    I didn't say Jailor was in game. I am just curious as to the other hidden roles.

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    Re: Day 6

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Galloway View Post
    1) There is no Blackmailor. See anyone with guns or vests running around? I thought not.

    2) There is no Jailor. See anyone claiming jailed here? No.


    Study up kids this is how to fail 101 by Dunn + Kelso.
    Also, why would a scum claim Jailor right now, getting all the attention all of a sudden?
    IMO this is not a scum move.

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    Re: Day 6

    Please note; this is not a ''scum'' list. These are observations, about things that definitely ticked me off.



    FM Parker

    This was his first post about the blackmail.

    I ask that question because it would explain why there were three bus claims and a poisioned claim. Here, Colmyer is acting as if he's blackmailed. That's way too much attention for scum to want to draw to themselves.
    Two posts later:



    Ok, I added him to my ignore list. That might help with some of the spam.



    Good night.
    This struck me as extremely odd. Even though I was really spammy at the time, you have absolutely no reason to put someone on your ignore list. He should have known that even when blackmailed, I would have tried to relay information to the town. I'm still pondering as to why he would do that.



    @Colymer = I know you're hellbent on gibberish. However, you can use it to help town provided it follows within your likely blackmail rules.



    Claim your category in the investigative pairings by using that number of words in your next post. The number of pairings +1 tells me you refuse. Anything else says you cannot communicate.



    For your next post, if you are trying to suggest who you think is scummy by quoting a work of literature, include only one word. If this was not your intention, use two words. Three means you refuse. Anything else means you cannot communicate.
    This is where things go downhill. Despite how clear it is in the rolecard (And even having the GM telling him to cut it out), he still tried to get me to give him such information, which would've gotten me instantly killed.



    Colymer, did Sarah &quot;Cleanse&quot; you?
    Again, this would have gotten me killed. FMGM confirmed that to me.



    Colmyer,



    1) If I am Cate, are you Ian? Will you speak with the solider and tell him we had a wonderful time as you smell my knickers? If so, I can make the lead Blasted if you want.



    2) Did you swallow a ring? At Tinker's direction?



    @The rest, I swear there is a point to this. I think I know who Colmyer is. If you want me to reveal the code he's using, I can. I'm trying to figure out whether it is the mafia's direction or his.
    Another attempt at getting to reveal the blackmail/that I was not talking of my own will.



    Well Colmyer could have been drugged to believe he was blackmailed, but that would leave too many drugs. So I'm discounting that theory.
    Why? Why assume that the others are not lying and that I was not the one to be drugged (Which is still very much possible by the way. Morgan might be the one that was really blackmailed. Might.)



    If I get confirmation from Colmyer that it's ok to share how I figured out what he's quoting from, I will explain. If I explain, you will repeat my processes and possibly leave him exposed.
    &quot;Don't Give it I can see that?&quot;



    /// OR///



    Most likely incinerated...



    You gave them to someone else...
    More attempts to get me to reveal I wasn't posting of my own free will.



    Ok, I am having trouble getting through and communicating to Colmyer. I will keep how I think I know his role/future claim a secret. However, I will reveal he is using &quot;Cleansed&quot; by Sarah Kane. I googled one of the more unique quotes and that book came up.
    Finally reveals to the town what I am using for my spam. He should have done that way earlier.



    I quit posting because I was concerned he was blackmailed. Yet, I'm not certain. If Monroe's blackmailed, then Colmyer is not and I could have had a field day with him. One of the two is trolling beyond reason or the real DD feedback is blackmailed.



    One of Monroe/Colmyer/Cohen has to be lying about being blackmailed or drugged.
    This is false. I do believe Morgan is also ''blackmailed'' and that either one of us got the drug. Why did he not mention that this was possible?



    Therefore, unless we have



    Godfather, Blackmailer, Blackmailer, Drug Dealer, and Consort... the premise where both Colmyer and Monroe are blackmailed is impossible. The drugs already went to Cohen or the outed investigator.
    Again, why is he SO certain that Cohen/the Outed Investigator got the drugs and not one of us? Does he know information we don't? He's not really making sense here.



    I only have two bussed today for my notes. Can you post who claimed bussed today Ackerman?



    Yes, I am suspecting two of the roleblockers from day one were blackmailed into claiming roleblocked. That is because we only have one claim today. I'm near certain that Colmyer was blackmailed into stating that he was blackmailed and the mafia blackmailed him again to prevent him from announcing roleblocked.



    I only had one of you two down as roleblocked.
    Wait, so he went from thinking that one of us are liars to being near certain that I was blackmailed TWICE in a row?

    This is also scummy. I'm mad I couldn't point out all these in the day chat.



    Ok, here's what I think happened.



    Night 0



    Godfather kills.

    Kidnapper busses Anonymous with Morgan.

    Blackmailer blackmails Morgan to keep quiet.

    Blackmailer blackmails Colmyer to claim roleblocked (hence the extra roleblocked between day 1 and day 2)

    Drug Dealer visits Cohen and lies to him about him being poisoned.

    Consigliere gathers information.



    -------



    Night 1



    GF kills.

    Kidnapper busses Morgan or Colmyer.

    Blackmailer blackmails Morgan or Colmyer again.

    DD handles the other with the same message (as required by the rule cards).

    Blackmailer blackmails Monroe to claim Mayor. After all, he cannot admit blackmailed.

    Consigliere investigates.



    ----



    If we lynch the wrong target, mafia roles don't get confirmed.
    This list is wrong on so many levels. Why did he go from saying he was certain one of us was lying and that he had huge doubt on Morgan to this? He shifts his story left and right.



    I strongly believe Cohen is innocent. The groundwork for his assumptions are very well made.



    First, he announces poisoned. He later asks not to be healed to confirm poisoner in the game or not. His death would have confirmed a role and something most players would be willing to do in mafia.



    He lacks a heal message. Therefore, he was drugged twice, not healed or lying.



    I admit, my scenario eliminates drugged twice.



    Why is it illogical to assume that a player who requested to be healed was not healed?
    More inconsistencies. Now he also believe Cohen to be innocent. Only a few pages before that, he was certain that at least one of us (Morgan, Cohen and I) was scum and lying.



    Anyway, my point is, he is completely inconsistent. I'm not sure at this point if he's a scum trying to mislead the town, or just a townie who's just really, really confused and trying a bit too hard.

    I'd say keep an eye on him for me please. I wouldn't ''focus'' him with a pressure lynch, but watch out for his post patterns.



    I have some more things to say about others, but I'm quite busy with work, as always.

    I'll do another post ASAP.






    His next post when i asked him who did he find scummy

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    Re: Day 6

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Ackerman View Post
    We've decided I'm savage, town, or student turned drug dealer, you coming back on me as blackmailer is retarded
    Lol ok. Whatever you say [bleep]head. Obviously taken offense to being called blackmailor and not any of the others. Slip? I think so.

    @Kelso

    Colymer was town. Why wouldn't he help us out by saying hey everyone there is a jailor. We can use him to help us out instead of being in the dark and relying on solely lynches to kill off scum.

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