Day 5

[FM Monroe]

I can actually see one possible scenario where that day 2 article was posted by Bishop.

He targeted Mason. He saw his target visit Hopgood and Mason claimed bus driven. He gave out an investigator result in case the kidnapper was responsible for the swap and an escort blocked Hopgood, so that the mafia would not kill the person who was swapped with Mason immediately as they could still be a witch or a ghost. He added some FoS to Mason in case she lied about being bus driven.

Bishop did know his WIFOM. He was using invisible text background to trollclaim spree killer.

[FM Ackerman]

Don't you understand? The best role that we need to lynch today is consort, who I believe is Phelps!

Monroe, you're the town escort, right? Knock some sense into then! You all will say thanks to me later!

Sabatoging a lynch train, noted.

[FM Parker]

We have a hidden doctor still most likely.

So we can bus me and heal me. The consort then RBing the bus driver is meaningless if I have a doctor on me. We get the confirmed scum in Earle and then we can move forward to Dunn. The mafia will have to start losing night actions and claiming extra roleblocks eventually.

[FM Monroe]

We have a hidden doctor still most likely.

So we can bus me and heal me. The consort then RBing the bus driver is meaningless if I have a doctor on me. We get the confirmed scum in Earle and then we can move forward to Dunn. The mafia will have to start losing night actions and claiming extra roleblocks eventually.

You're forgetting the kidnapper in this plan. The kidnapper would have to be blocked for it to work.

[FM Ackerman]

We have a hidden doctor still most likely.

So we can bus me and heal me. The consort then RBing the bus driver is meaningless if I have a doctor on me. We get the confirmed scum in Earle and then we can move forward to Dunn. The mafia will have to start losing night actions and claiming extra roleblocks eventually.

Agreed, we can probably keep you alive with both doc, and bus driver, but at what cost? We will have no good protective roles left.

[FM Ackerman]

You're forgetting the kidnapper in this plan. The kidnapper would have to be blocked for it to work.

Good point.

[FM Ackerman]

Btw I'm keeping tabs on who votes today, when Earle flips godfather the list will be important.

[FM Monroe]

Agreed, we can probably keep you alive with both doc, and bus driver, but at what cost? We will have no good protective roles left.

Kidnapper goes first.

Kidnapper swaps Parker + A
Busdriver targets Parker and B, but ends up swapping A and B
Doctor targets Parker, but ends up healing B

[FM Parker]

Agreed, we can probably keep you alive with both doc, and bus driver, but at what cost? We will have no good protective roles left.

If we lost the bus driver by mafia kill, the mafia would be handing us Dunn as the kidnapper. I don't think they'd do that. Also, the doctor isn't outed. Also, the mafia can't kill Monroe/Phelps without possibly handing us the Consort.

I can actually see one possible scenario where that day 2 article was posted by Bishop.

He targeted Mason. He saw his target visit Hopgood and Mason claimed bus driven. He gave out an investigator result in case the kidnapper was responsible for the swap and an escort blocked Hopgood, so that the mafia would not kill the person who was swapped with Mason immediately as they could still be a witch or a ghost. He added some FoS to Mason in case she lied about being bus driven.

Bishop did know his WIFOM. He was using invisible text background to trollclaim spree killer.

I figured there was a possibility like this but I couldn't quite get it clear.

So on Night 1, Bishop follows Mason who visits Hopgood. Hopgood was bussed... this is where I lost you.

[FM Earle]

I suppose you'd lie in your article saying you got an investigative lead as a detective too. Totally pro-town that strategy.

I hope you die tonight. But highly unlikely. Scum will like you to be around.

Heard about roleclaiming to savage journalist or future savage journalist?

[FM Parker]

Kidnapper goes first.

Kidnapper swaps Parker + A
Busdriver targets Parker and B, but ends up swapping A and B
Doctor targets Parker, but ends up healing B

The other option is the Doctor on me and Monroe roleblocking Dunn and the bus driver bussing himself.

[FM Ackerman]

I hope you die tonight. But highly unlikely. Scum will like you to be around.

Heard about roleclaiming to savage journalist or future savage journalist?

I will never be a savage, and I certainly expect to die for getting you lynched, however I have a juicy last will if we do in fact have a coroner.

[FM Ackerman]

The other option is the Doctor on me and Monroe roleblocking Dunn and the bus driver bussing himself.

Look at the bright side, if we can get it right one night, blacksmith can get you vest.

[FM Parker]

Let's see like this. Earle is dead.

Doctor --> Parker
Monroe --> Dunn (blocks who most think is kidnapper)
Hogeboom --> Busses himself

It leaves Monroe open to attack but at little cost... the mafia cannot sacrifice Dunn's night action to kill because he'd be roleblocked and no kill would happen.

Does the blacksmith pass a message with a vest?

[FM Ryan]

Just to be honest, I don't like your decision at all.

Sure, it is possible for Earle to be scum, but NO one has ever counterclaimed him as journalist. Even if there is a case of another corrupt journalist, lynching Mafia will be a better decision anyway. if you are not going to vote Phelps, then I'm fine with lynching Dunn, the possible Kidnapper suspect.

-unvote

[FM Monroe]

Only way to save Parker is make a plan for me/other escort and Phelps/other escort to block both bus driver claimers while the doc heals Parker.

If Phelps or me do not stick to the plan and parker dies, the missing escort can claim and tell us if Phelps or I am lying. And then we'd have a confirmed consort.

If both phelps and me are escorts, then if the consort blocks anyone else we will also know about it.

However, this plan requires a claim from the article author. It also means the escorts, bus driver and doctor can't be used for anything else (but neither can the consort and kidnapper) and the savages are completely left untouched.

[FM Ackerman]

Let's see like this. Earle is dead.

Doctor --> Parker
Monroe --> Dunn (blocks who most think is kidnapper)
Hogeboom --> Busses himself

It leaves Monroe open to attack but at little cost... the mafia cannot sacrifice Dunn's night action to kill because he'd be roleblocked and no kill would happen.

Does the blacksmith pass a message with a vest?

We could try it, we don't have better leads on the kidnapper, but I do think Dunn is savage, witch, or epsilon.

[FM Parker]

This behavior by Ryan is why I am concerned that Dunn is the actual bus driver; Hopegood is the kidnapper; Buchwalter/Ryan are mafia and that the Dunn train is a diversion.

Ryan claim. Now.

[FM Parker]

Err Hogeboom is the kidnapper possibly.

[FM Cafarelli]

also i'd like to state why i trust earle on his night 1 interview:

1) no mafia would say that is was bishop. supposing you are mafia, what would you do? it must be a dead player ofc unless we know who really wrote it (for example if consig wrote it he would claim that)
but which dead player? there is no invest in the graveyard. BUT there is a savage invest. the interview could have been written by a savage invest. AND there is also a savage. it might be an invest converted to savage. the interview could have been written by him while he still was invest. OR he just says it was written by any scum role in the graveyard who just lied
since earle did not use one of this logical scum variants, he probably doesnt lie
2) bishop's claim to have found a consort/escort is legit too. he probably tracked someone whose target claimed roleblocked. so it didn't matter if he claimed det or invest. i don't know why he claimed invest then but it doesnt really matter.

so earle is a legit journalist imo. there is a slight possibility buchwalter is town aswell but i doubt it



then it's twice better to lynch buchwalter instead of earle today and the other tomorrow in case we got the wrong:
1) more chances that buchwalter is scum as i pointed out. and it's ofc better to get the scum today and not tomorrow
2) losing a journalist is MUCH worse than a cit

also i don't think the mafia kills parker tonight, doc or bd is not necessary here. they will rather kill the journalist once he's confirmed by buch's flip
why why won't kill parker?
1) he is not really smart
2) we don't need his extra votes yet
3) he is no other use to the town

they will however kill him once they gain the majority by killing the mayor.

there are way better uses to bd/doc:
a) journalist (doc)
b) bd (bd swapping self or better doc)
c) me to not get drugged again/killed
d) monroe (doc)

i know they cannot all be saved but since the mafia won't know what the doc/bd does, they won't kill any of these. but i'm certain they'll drug me despite having possibly a bd because the risk is not as big as losing a kill/killing themself

for the escorts:
yes, definitely block dunn the kidnapper and earle/buchwalter (in case we get the wrong today)
let's say monroe at dunn and phelps + the hidden escort/consort on earle/buchwalter

[FM Monroe]

We could try it, we don't have better leads on the kidnapper, but I do think Dunn is savage, witch, or epsilon.

We should get Dunn to confirm whether or not he wrote that article. It will immediately tell us something about him and Earle as well.

[FM Ryan]

Only way to save Parker is make a plan for me/other escort and Phelps/other escort to block both bus driver claimers while the doc heals Parker.

If Phelps or me do not stick to the plan and parker dies, the missing escort can claim and tell us if Phelps or I am lying. And then we'd have a confirmed consort.

If both phelps and me are escorts, then if the consort blocks anyone else we will also know about it.

However, this plan requires a claim from the article author. It also means the escorts, bus driver and doctor can't be used for anything else (but neither can the consort and kidnapper) and the savages are completely left untouched.

Or lynching a Kidnapper, who I believe is Dunn.

[FM Cafarelli]

mayor make a decision now pls. you can choose between:
Dunn and Buchwalter

the risk of lynching earle is way to high. aswell as hogeboom

[FM Parker]

Only way to save Parker is make a plan for me/other escort and Phelps/other escort to block both bus driver claimers while the doc heals Parker.

If Phelps or me do not stick to the plan and parker dies, the missing escort can claim and tell us if Phelps or I am lying. And then we'd have a confirmed consort.

If both phelps and me are escorts, then if the consort blocks anyone else we will also know about it.

However, this plan requires a claim from the article author. It also means the escorts, bus driver and doctor can't be used for anything else (but neither can the consort and kidnapper) and the savages are completely left untouched.

I do like this. It removes the uncertaintly from the equation. The mafia cannot kill whoever it is that actually did the roleblocking without outing one of their own. If the mafia kills the bus driver, they confirm the kidnapper.

The masons can deal with the savages. I think the savages tried to FoS me because they tried to convert me and failed and I didn't claim bussed. My suspicions were further confirmed when Ballard flipped Savage. So I think Hopgood (not the bus driver claimer) is the Savage Godfather and should be hit twice. Savage GF has an autovest.

[FM Cafarelli]

Only way to save Parker is make a plan for me/other escort and Phelps/other escort to block both bus driver claimers while the doc heals Parker.

If Phelps or me do not stick to the plan and parker dies, the missing escort can claim and tell us if Phelps or I am lying. And then we'd have a confirmed consort.

If both phelps and me are escorts, then if the consort blocks anyone else we will also know about it.

However, this plan requires a claim from the article author. It also means the escorts, bus driver and doctor can't be used for anything else (but neither can the consort and kidnapper) and the savages are completely left untouched.

sure thing epic plan, now we waste all 4 protection roles just to save that mayor who just want be attacked. DO NOT BLOCK HOGEBOOM. his ability will be very useful

[FM Cafarelli]

sure thing epic plan, now we waste all 4 protection roles just to save that mayor who just wont be attacked. DO NOT BLOCK HOGEBOOM. his ability will be very useful

fixed.
additionally the mayor is useless anyway

[FM Ackerman]

sure thing epic plan, now we waste all 4 protection roles just to save that mayor who just want be attacked. DO NOT BLOCK HOGEBOOM. his ability will be very useful

Sounds like a claim that hogeboom is in fact kidnapper.

[FM Cafarelli]

Sounds like a claim that hogeboom is in fact kidnapper.

lol whut? i dont think so. explain

[FM Parker]

This is precisely why we do not lynch Dunn. There is uncertainty regarding which one is the kidnapper.

Also, I am troubled by no one counterclaiming Earle. This is why I keep going back and forth.

The mayor being attacked is a logical play if the mafia are dividing the town.

-vote unvote

I'm not having the town sheep behind me until I'm certain as to which one Earle/Buchwalter is mafia.

[FM Monroe]

I do like this. It removes the uncertaintly from the equation. The mafia cannot kill whoever it is that actually did the roleblocking without outing one of their own. If the mafia kills the bus driver, they confirm the kidnapper.

The masons can deal with the savages. I think the savages tried to FoS me because they tried to convert me and failed and I didn't claim bussed. My suspicions were further confirmed when Ballard flipped Savage. So I think Hopgood (not the bus driver claimer) is the Savage Godfather and should be hit twice. Savage GF has an autovest.

There's still a small flaw in the plan if the mafia actually had their drug dealer claim bus driver in the article, because the drug dealer is more expendable than the kidnapper.

[FM Cafarelli]

This is precisely why we do not lynch Dunn. There is uncertainty regarding which one is the kidnapper.

Also, I am troubled by no one counterclaiming Earle. This is why I keep going back and forth.

The mayor being attacked is a logical play if the mafia are dividing the town.

-vote unvote

I'm not having the town sheep behind me until I'm certain as to which one Earle/Buchwalter is mafia.

you should compare the situation and style of the 2 claims. then you should compare the busdrives. didn't hogeboom mess with the blackmail? why would a kidnapper do so
anyway if you don't want to lynch dunn you've made your decision, it's gotta be buch then

the town won't be divided if you're dead. i hope that this lynch confirms me finally. and there are several other pretty much confirmed TPRs

[Forum Mafia GM]

Parker has revealed as Mayor, his vote has been reset and now counts as 4 votes.

(I'm still catching up, I'll answer questions as I see them)

[FM Hogeboom]

Sounds like a claim that hogeboom is in fact kidnapper.

Aw come on, why would I have switched you with Colmyer N3 where I switched the blackmails if I were a Kidnapper? :/

[FM Ackerman]

This is precisely why we do not lynch Dunn. There is uncertainty regarding which one is the kidnapper.

Also, I am troubled by no one counterclaiming Earle. This is why I keep going back and forth.

The mayor being attacked is a logical play if the mafia are dividing the town.

-vote unvote

I'm not having the town sheep behind me until I'm certain as to which one Earle/Buchwalter is mafia.

Requesting the true journalist reveal and/or the investigator from day 1. As much as I hate to see you revealed, it is important to get the godfather lynched, it isn't quite lynch or lose, but it will be if we don't get this right.

[FM Ackerman]

Aw come on, why would I have switched you with Colmyer N3 where I switched the blackmails if I were a Kidnapper? :/

Both bus drivers know the others actions, you could easily claim you did what the other driver did. I'm not convinced enough to vote you though.

[FM Parker]

I'll take my chance with lynching Buchwalter.

-vote FM Buchwalter

No counterclaims this long after Earle has outed are suspicious. Monroe has explained the deficiencies in the articles. If Buchwalter flips town, then we have at least two confirmed scums if not three. I'll take the chance with Buchwalter.

I'm also thinking Ackerman and Dunn are scum as well. Ackerman for refusing to vote Buchwalter and nearly tricking me into Earle. Dunn for writing the article that "clears" Ackerman.

[FM Ackerman]

I'll take my chance with lynching Buchwalter.

-vote FM Buchwalter

No counterclaims this long after Earle has outed are suspicious. Monroe has explained the deficiencies in the articles. If Buchwalter flips town, then we have at least two confirmed scums if not three. I'll take the chance with Buchwalter.

I'm also thinking Ackerman and Dunn are scum as well. Ackerman for refusing to vote Buchwalter and nearly tricking me into Earle. Dunn for writing the article that "clears" Ackerman.

Your call, just remember if you get killed tonight after he flips delta it will be almost impossible to recover.

[FM Ackerman]

I wish you guys would trust me, what happened to me day 1 would be conclusive proof, but unfortunately you won't belive me.

[FM Hogeboom]

I'm also thinking Ackerman and Dunn are scum as well. Ackerman for refusing to vote Buchwalter and nearly tricking me into Earle. Dunn for writing the article that "clears" Ackerman.

They would have to be Savages then, or Ackerman atleast if you believe me to have bussed Colmyer and Ackerman.

[FM Monroe]

I wish you guys would trust me, what happened to me day 1 would be conclusive proof, but unfortunately you won't belive me.

What did happen to you day 1? You're not on my claims list. And you never claimed blackmailed when both Morgan and Colmyer were.

[FM Parker]

What did happen to you day 1? You're not on my claims list. And you never claimed blackmailed when both Morgan and Colmyer were.

I also checked the notes Buchwalter posted. Nothing is posted for anything happening to Ackerman until night 3.

[FM Ackerman]

They would have to be Savages then, or Ackerman atleast if you believe me to have bussed Colmyer and Ackerman.

Contradiction!!! Im a savage, but im defending a friend of the MAFIA GODFATHER!!!! GG!

[FM Parker]

Your call, just remember if you get killed tonight after he flips delta it will be almost impossible to recover.

That would be why I am deliberately planning to keep myself alive. If I am alive, we can recover from this. The savages, with their numbers too low, will almost certainly side with the town.

[FM Parker]

Contradiction!!! Im a savage, but im defending a friend of the MAFIA GODFATHER!!!! GG!

In your raging, your words are not clear.

[FM Buchwalter]

Both bus drivers know the others actions, you could easily claim you did what the other driver did. I'm not convinced enough to vote you though.

You should look at my table of night actions again. There is 5 bussed claims on a few of the days, so your logic does not stick.

Unless you are saying that you are a 3rd Bus Driver or Kidnapper.

[FM Ackerman]

I also checked the notes Buchwalter posted. Nothing is posted for anything happening to Ackerman until night 3.

Both n1, and n3 i claimed "interesting night" I'm intentionally withholding the first occurence of each feedback to catch scum, like the poster of the bussing article.

[FM Parker]

Both n1, and n3 i claimed "interesting night" I'm intentionally withholding the first occurence of each feedback to catch scum, like the poster of the bussing article.

Stop withholding right now. We need accurate information to catch the scum. Voting patterns should out them anyway.

[FM Buchwalter]

Feedback Claims:

• Godfather / ???
  
  1. killed Ballard
  2. killed Bekowsky
• Drug Dealer
  
  1. feedback prevented Cafarelli
• Bus Driver / Kidnapper
  
  1. bussed Parker
  2. bussed Rose
  3. bussed Hogeboom
• Escort / Consort
  
  1. blocked Cafarelli [#354]
  2. blocked Galletta
  3. blocked Phelps
• Journalist / Corrupted Journalist
  
  1. interviewd Fontaine [#450]

Notable Posts:

• Buchwalter
  
  1. Claim Delta. [#270]
  2. Claim to have passed Soma to Earle.
• Cafarelli
  
  1. Ragey post. [#39]
• Earle
  
  1. Claim (Corrupt) Journalist. [#418] [#450]
• Hogeboom
  
  1. Claim Bus Driver. [#535]
• Monroe
  
  1. Claim Escort. [#354]
• Phelps
  
  1. Claim Escort. [#101]

Lynch Trains:

• Buchwalter
  
  1. Late claim to have passed Soma to Earle. [#270]
• Cafarelli
  
  1. Possible consigliere or Savage. [#78]
• Dunn
  
  1. Possible Kidnapper. [#327]
• Earle
  
  1. Used Soma to make a double kill as Godfather.
• Phelps
  
  1. Being "Blackmailer / Consort / Escort / Witch / Ghost". [D4 #528]

Tally Archive:

• Day 1 version of this list. [D1 #535]
• Day 2 version of this list. [D2 #783]
• Day 3 version of this list. [D3 #323]
• Day 4 version of this list. [D4 #526]

Table with all accounted night actions:

#	Player	Night 1	Night 2	Night 3	Night 4	Night 5	Night 6
1	FM Ackerman			bussed by #22 (redirected BMed)	bussed (redirected attacked)
2	FM Ballard			bussed		attacked
3	FM Becket			bussed attacked by redirect
4	FM Bekowsky		blocked			attacked
5	FM Biggs	witched	witched
6	FM Bishop		interviewed by #16 attacked
7	FM Black			blocked by #31
8	FM Buchwalter		blocked by #31	given Soma by #33
9	FM Cafarelli	feedback prevention		feedback prevention		feedback prevention blocked by #31
10	FM Carruthers
11	FM Chapman		blocked by #34
12	FM Cohen
13	FM Colmyer	blocked by #34	BMed	bussed by #22 BMed by redirect
14	FM Donnelly				blocked
15	FM Dunn		bussed		interviewed by #16
16	FM Earle				given Soma by #8	used Soma
17	FM Fontaine					bussed interviewed by #16
18	FM Gage	attacked
19	FM Galletta	blocked		interviewed by #3		blocked by #34
20	FM Galloway		bussed by #22
21	FM Green
22	FM Hogeboom	bussed by #22			blocked by 34	bussed by #22
23	FM Hopgood	blocked by #31
24	FM Kalou			bussed (redirected attacked)
25	FM Kelso			blocked by #34
26	FM Leary
27	FM Lichtmann		bussed
28	FM Mason	bussed
29	FM McKelty	BS item
30	FM Mendez	bussed by #22
31	FM Monroe	bussed	bussed by #22
32	FM Morgan		BMed	witched	bussed attacked by redirect
33	FM Parker					bussed
34	FM Phelps				blocked by #31	blocked
35	FM Rose		interviewed by #3	interviewed by #16		bussed by #22
36	FM Ryan				bussed

These are all the actions I have notes about.

• Uncolored = Actions claimed doing the day.
• Yellow = Learned from interview, [D4 #560].

(Nothing new, just reposting for ease of reading, and to make sure everyone has seen it.)

[FM Ackerman]

In your raging, your words are not clear.

You say buch is either godfather or a friend of the godfather.
You say I'm scum for defendingbuch.
I was apparently bussed away from being blackmailed. (Hogeboom)
Therefore I am not mafia, I must be savage.
So why the heck would i defend the mafia?

[FM Ackerman]

Stop withholding right now. We need accurate information to catch the scum. Voting patterns should out them anyway.

Carafelli could not have been drugged night one. Thats all I'm going to say.