Day 5

[FM Ferengi]

Day 5

And so they died.

Oh well, so it goes.

And we all knew that they would.

Another Savage died. Name was Ballard. FM Ballard. He investigated for them, I think. A Savage Investigator.

And a guy named Bekowsky. FM Bekowsky. He was just a Citizen

Not much to him, but it didn’t matter here.

I turned this world into a warzone...and I can’t stop it.

We’ll just have to see what happens now...the bloodlust was growing fast.

-Aldous Ford
May 25, 2013 A.F.


One article was submitted this evening to the London Times this morning:

Hello, I am a replacement. Delta is my role, so only the Journalist knows who and what I am now. Nothing has happened to me during ANY nights. Very boring.

I have skimmed thought a lot of the previous days and enjoyed FM Buchwalter's information and I have to say, I will listen to what he says and I put my trust in him.

My previous owner thought of Monroe being scummy, so I will be watching him/her. But I will be looking into what mostly happens next than what has happened to try and spot the scum.

I have nothing else to add to this. But I will be engaging into this more now. I wish my side the best of luck and look forward to posting.

Graveyard:
FM Gage (Architect) - Overdosed on laced Soma.
FM McKelty (Delta) - Lynched by an angry mob.
FM Bishop (Detective) - Overdosed on laced Soma.
FM Becket (Corrupt Journalist) - Overdosed on laced Soma.
FM Cohen (Arsonist) - Lynched by an angry mob.
FM Colmyer (Delta) - Committed suicide.
FM Morgan (Savage) - Overdosed on laced soma.
FM Biggs (Delta) - Lynched by an angry mob.
FM Ballard (Savage Investigator) - Overdosed on laced soma.
FM Bekowsky (Delta) - Overdosed on laced soma.


Role List:
Godfather
[Soma Dealer]
[Soma Dealer]
[Soma Dealer]
[Soma Dealer]
[Soma Dealer]
Savage Godfather
[Evil Neutral]
[Hidden Epsilon]
[Hidden Epsilon]
[Hidden Alpha]
[Hidden Alpha]
[Hidden Beta]
[Hidden Beta]
[Hidden Gamma]
[Hidden Gamma]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
[Random Any]

Not Crossed Off:
FM Morgan (Savage)
FM Ballard (Savage Investigator)

Anonymous Accounts:
FM Ackerman
FM Ballard
FM Becket
FM Bekowsky
FM Biggs
FM Bishop
FM Black
FM Buchwalter
FM Cafarelli
FM Carruthers
FM Chapman
FM Cohen
FM Colmyer
FM Donnelly
FM Dunn
FM Earle
FM Fontaine
FM Gage
FM Galletta
FM Galloway
FM Green
FM Hogeboom
FM Hopgood
FM Kalou
FM Kelso
FM Leary
FM Lichtmann
FM Mason
FM McKelty
FM Mendez
FM Monroe
FM Morgan
FM Parker
FM Phelps
FM Rose
FM Ryan

Night 6 begins at: https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i...y+26th%2C+2013

14 votes to hammer.
FM Parker is the mayor with 4 votes.

[FM Parker]

Do savage kills read as "overdosed on laced soma? Can you answer my question at the end of Day 4?

I was bus driven.

[FM Kelso]

Just passing through... nothing happened to me.
I will be busy this weekend so maybe I won't be very active.
Still, I'll do my best to stay informed of what happen this day and try to post my though about any future situation.

[FM Earle]

Earle still lives.

Earle is not Mafia. Earle advices Savages to get their revenge on someone else.

[FM Earle]

Earle contributes.

Godfather
[Soma Dealer]
[Soma Dealer]
[Soma Dealer]
[Soma Dealer]
[Soma Dealer]
Savage Godfather[Hidden Savage]
[Hidden Savage][Hidden Epsilon]
[Hidden Alpha]
[Hidden Alpha]
[Hidden Beta]
[Hidden Gamma]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
[Random Any]

6 Mafia, 3 Savages, 17 Town, 2 Unknown alignment.
28 Total, 15 to lynch.
Town will lose majority in 2-3 days.

[FM Earle]

Earle makes corrections.

Earle contributes.

Godfather
[Soma Dealer]
[Soma Dealer]
[Soma Dealer]
[Soma Dealer]
[Soma Dealer]
Savage Godfather
[Hidden Savage]
[Hidden Savage]
[Hidden Epsilon]
[Hidden Alpha]
[Hidden Alpha]
[Hidden Beta]
[Hidden Gamma]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
[Random Any]

6 Mafia, 3 Savages, 17 Town, 2 Unknown alignment.
28 Total, 15 to lynch.
Town will lose majority in 2-3 days.

[FM Earle]

Earle greets the 4 other users reading this thread.

[FM Parker]

Earle is supposing the savages converted each night. Parker points out this is likely a mistaken assumption given the number of non-convertable roles in the game and the 2/3 chance of the presence of a mason enforcer.

[FM Earle]

Parker seemed to suggest that Mafia got a gun or soma.

[FM Ferengi]

Suppose the ghost doesn't die then does the ghost lose? I figure this would be a yes but I want to be certain. If the ghost could win by surviving, he'd be an OP survivor.

Yes. If the ghost does not die then he loses.

Do savage kills read as "overdosed on laced soma? Can you answer my question at the end of Day 4?

Sorry, I didn't see your question earlier. See above for the answer. Savage kills do not read as "overdosed on laced soma".

[FM Earle]

Death Descriptions:
These are the various types of kill sources that will be identified.

Soma Dealer kill (normal, interceptor, or poisoner, no difference)
Savage kill
Cleaned kill (Janitor clean, Devourer clean, Disguiser jump, etc.)
Blacksmith gun kill
Bodyguard duel
Jailor/Devourer execution (no difference)
Mason Clubbing
Vigilante kill
Veteran kill
Evil Neutral Kill (Arsonist burn, serial killer, or spree killer, no difference)
Jester grief

Perhaps not blacksmith. Earle was mistaken. Soma, poisoner with no feedback or interceptor.

[FM Earle]

Earle feels ignored.

Disappointed, Earle leaves for the rest of the day.

[FM Parker]

Poisoner nor interceptor very remote. Mayor likely done goofed. Earle not ignored.

[FM Black]

Seemed like a very long and boring night. Almost feels like a week pasted while waiting for day.

So does this mean GF got ahold of soma since savages do not get the same kill desc?

[FM Black]

If so, an alpha knows who the GF is.

[FM Parker]

@Black, Soma is received at the start of an even numbered night. The alpha can pass it on that night. The target would be receiving notice today.

Therefore, it is the first soma we need to track.

That soma was received and passed night 2.

On night 3, the recipient could receive or use the soma. Logically, he passed it (that's the way we get to this result).

On night 4, the Godfather killed.


Probable conclusion, the mayor has a lead on the mafia (but not the GF). The mafia likely attempted to kill the mayor if they figured out the target's identity.

The bus driver likely knows who the mayor is.

[FM Parker]

To be clear

First soma night 2 - generated
night 3 - mayor passed (probably), mayor could have held and passed right to the GF, but my bet is the mafia held it for cover
Day 3 - feedback given to recipient
night 4 - target passed
Day 4 - GF notified of recipient
Night 5 - GF uses soma to make two kills

[FM Ryan]

Hello everyone, I am a replacement. No, I was not interviewed by Journalist. And nothing happened to me tonight.

I was bussed on Night 4, though. Considering the bus driver interview, I can conclude that there are really 2 bus drivers, or at least one of then is kidnapper. I was surprised to see that Ballard flipped Savage Investigator. Which now makes me think that Cafarelli may not nessessary be the town Investigator. I won't be surprised if Mafia were the ones who actually pushed the lynch on Biggs.

If you look at our current events, no Mafia has been lynched or killed yet. We have to change that flow somehow and lynch our first Mafia today. I have already collected most of the information from the past days and night, though I can't still get a clear reading on some people yet. So i'll be joining this discussion today to learn more about you.

[FM Parker]

The night also told us Cafarelli is not likely a savage investigator since Ballard was one.

I will bet Ballard was recently converted given his FoS on me yesterday. Hopgood tagging along for no clear reason suggests he is a savage as well and should be smacked.

Congessman, nice to see you.

[FM Parker]

I like Ackerman's suggestion that Cafarelli is the consigliere. She was right on with Phelps due to his reaction. That should not have happen. Cafarelli should not have withheld information.

Reflecting on this. Will be back in my real world morning.

[FM Ryan]

I remember Cafarelli's investigation result on Phelps, and I'm thinking... What is Phelps could be actually the Witch?

At first I though the he could be Mafia, but now that tides has changed, I think that he could be either town escort or witch. You already said before that him being ghost is quite unlikely.

[FM Galloway]

Hello everyone, I am a replacement. No, I was not interviewed by Journalist. And nothing happened to me tonight.
Post a thought on the people that posted so far so that we can determine if you have been paying attention along the way.
I was bussed on Night 4, though. Considering the bus driver interview, I can conclude that there are really 2 bus drivers, or at least one of then is kidnapper. I was surprised to see that Ballard flipped Savage Investigator. Which now makes me think that Cafarelli may not nessessary be the town Investigator. I won't be surprised if Mafia were the ones who actually pushed the lynch on Biggs.
The first half of this is hopwash flipantcy. 2 buss drivers. No wait. one is a kidnapper. Make up your mind already "replacement." However I can agree with you on Cafarelli. It seems way to conventint that savage had an investigator and cafa gave out some accurate feedback late into pressure/days like he did. Suspect actions that is.
If you look at our current events, no Mafia has been lynched or killed yet. We have to change that flow somehow and lynch our first Mafia today. I have already collected most of the information from the past days and night, though I can't still get a clear reading on some people yet. So i'll be joining this discussion today to learn more about you.
scummy.

I have a few questions for Parker if he is here.

[FM Hogeboom]

Hello everyone, reporting in to say that nothing happened to me.

[FM Galloway]

Scum could possibly be:
Cafarelli (Savage (Godfather) using Savage Investigator to help him look townie)
Hopgood

Hmm... This... Is... Interesting...
Sad to see Colymyer go. I believed him
I had no ideas he was arson, I did it for the lulz
This game need some lulz from there and then
Otherwise it would just be 100 percent all hardcore serious players
Sometimes a good lulz will help us like the dead arson
-vote FM Parker

This guy seemed scummy in my book

Earle (active lurking and sheeping)
Ackermann (lurking and refusal to do more to help town)
Dunn (Lurking like Ackermann)

Cafarelli being an outed investigator with the drug dealer being pretty much confirmed in this setup is one [bleep] mind[bleep] coincidence to think about. How could he be so accurate with this pair of information? I truly believe, based on his late reveals and such, that he is a savage hiding out for the investigator. I'd suggest him outing his information now and seeing if his accuser confirms it or nor but thats really really risky if he hit a town pr. I'd support pressure and if he reacts badly, a lynch. Plus (corrupt) Journalist message suggests that we'd have two Investiagtors and with the drops so far I highly doubt thats the case.

We seem to have some resemblence of a journalist and I believe they should remain hidden untill such a time that their information gathered is of much more use than it would be so far. Right now it looks like we are just outting town prs for no reward in the case of a revealing journalist.

Parker brought up the theory of a mayor and personally I am in favor of having a hidden mayor to confirm himself to catch a scum in their own trap than revealing just to have a confirmed town.

Green and Ryan have..shown to be interesting subjects so far and based on the fact that Ryan just revealed that he is a replacement I would suggest that Green is much much scummier than Ryan in that regard with playstyle alone.

[FM Galloway]

Two others lookin at this thread. What are you lurking for?!

[FM Ryan]

I find Earle somewhat weird. Yeah, he does not look like town in my eyes, but there is something that caught my eye. It's "Bus Driver" interview. Look what he writed there about Earle:

FM Earle – I know who this person is, im pretty sure. Clearly town.

What does he mean by that? How he can be sure that Earle is town if he never did anything to him? I'm in deep thoughts now...

[FM Black]

Are you suggesting Earle could have been the interviewee?

[FM Black]

Or perhaps Earle is known by the interviewee, such as a teammate?

[FM Ryan]

Yeah, you are exactly reading my thoughts, Black. Though I believe that it's probably second option.

Anyway guys, can you confirm that you were switched in that order?

On the first night I swapped Mason and Monroe

On the second night I swapped Dunn and Lichtman.

On the third night I swapped Becket and Kalou

On night 4 I swapped Ackerman and Morgan

[FM Earle]

Earle feels the need to defend himself. A good man Earle is.

Earle (active lurking and sheeping)

Earle is a wolf. A sheep not.

Are you suggesting Earle could have been the interviewee?

Earle do not accept interviews.

Or perhaps Earle is known by the interviewee, such as a teammate?

Savage Earle is not.

[FM Earle]

Earle notes that 5 non-towns are currently browsing this thread.

[FM Carruthers]

What does he mean by that? How he can be sure that Earle is town if he never did anything to him? I'm in deep thoughts now...

He's more of a lurker. There is not that many clues given

There is two options how he knows, A. He is a scum team mate, B. COM discovered.
Try not to get into the COM-hunting as that would violate a rule.

[FM Black]

Earle feels the need to defend himself. A good man Earle is.



Earle is a wolf. A sheep not.



Earle do not accept interviews.



Savage Earle is not.

I was actually suggesting mafia, but savage is a decent thought as well.

[FM Rose]

if Cafarelli was a mafia then he wouldn't have told uss who the escort is, he would have kept his results for his team and kill phelps during the night.
I really doubt that phelps is a escort since escorts are immune to roleblock and the mafia would know who he is if they failed to roleblock him.
I think phelps is the witch or blackmailer.

-vote Fm Phelps

[FM Rose]

No one claimed to be witched yesterday when phelps was blocked.

[FM Rose]

And i was swapped by a bus driver tonight.

[FM Rose]

Soma Dealer kill (normal, interceptor, or poisoner, no difference)

I think the mafia have a interceptor or poisoner. They might be using the drug dealer to hide the poison notification.

[FM Ryan]

I was planning to vote Phelps as well, but because I have my doubts on Cafarelli... I won't vote yet. I would like to hear first what our "escort" Phelps has to say.

There is also a rare chance that Rose could be the Godfather, but it's not possible for Rose to be Mafia Godfather if Cafarelli could be the consigliere. Savage Godfather is still possible though. Rose is not acting like Jester would, and Survivor here is HIGHLY unlikely. Something you should keep in mind, especially during endgame days.

[FM Cafarelli]

disclaimer: this is a RAGE post!

I have SINCERE doubt in the brain of anyone who STILL doubts that i'm a FUCKING INVEST. IQ must be less than 70 guys which means you are LITERALLY retarded...
LMFAO savage invest just DIED and masons had 3 FUCKING NIGHTS
obviously you cannot make ANY logical conclusions. you shouldn't have signed up imo

and then some RETARDED FUCKTARD calling himself probably 'mayor' passes soma to the FUCKING MAFIA instead of the CONFIRMED invest, how FUCKING RETARDED IS THIS i could have invested MUCH MORE PPL, how to use soma fuckign better?? that 'mayor' must have turned against town

I was surprised to see that Ballard flipped Savage Investigator. Which now makes me think that Cafarelli may not nessessary be the town Investigator.

that conclusion is just made without ANY brain, logic, thinking, ...
do you really think the savages have TWO INVESTIGATORS??? do you think they converted the town's invest instead of converting a FUCKING CITIZEN AS INVEST??? this is RIDICULOUS, NEXT (replacement) pls!

I like Ackerman's suggestion that Cafarelli is the consigliere. She was right on with Phelps due to his reaction. That should not have happen. Cafarelli should not have withheld information.

Reflecting on this. Will be back in my real world morning.

i did NOT WITHHELD INFORMATION. also you're (once again) talking COMPLETE BULLSHIT, withholding information is often essential!


tonight i was FUCKING DRUGDEALED AGAIN
what is this SHIT
what the FUCK is the busdriver(s) doing?? I fucking said MULTIPLE(!!) TIMES i would need one. but NOO. the busdriver(s) rather goes MAD and ANNOUNCES who he drives, rofl
THIS is your fault busdriver, you are a fucking hero: last night i was drugged AGAIN!!!!!!! i was not drugged last night so i think the drug dealer was roleblocked. i said block same, but noo what are escorts doing of course...
i might aswell commit suicide, with all the drugs i will get an overdose soon anyway... unnecessary to say that you all piss me off, i cant even collect information and the doubt in me is RIDICULOUS as fuck. the mafia made me their FUCKING BITCH and i DONT WANT TO BE THEIR BITCH, it's a fate worse than death. they could kill me anytime but decided this would be better.
but town and especially busdrivers, if you do not need my results then what am i doing here. you even know how it feels to make up and see YOU HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY INFORMATION, NOT EVEN A FUCKING MAIL

bye i need to calm down, this is all information you'll get for today:

-vote FM Phelps

witch, bm, consort.

ps: since i dont give a fuck anymore if you trust me or not i might aswell admit that i actually never checked cohen. i would never waste a night action like this. in that night i went to galetta and now have a guess what i received... awesome right
that basicly means without me being so good you would have already lost.
fm phelps once said something about me doing gambits. scumslip because mafia knew ofc about my gambit

[FM Cafarelli]

one more drug without any bd doing something against it = addicition => death
means: suicide

over and out

[FM Earle]

Earle thinks that Cafarelli is blackmailed and forced to vote Phelps, most likely.

Else Cafarelli is Savage Godfather angry that Mafia killed his investigator, even more likely.

LMFAO savage invest just DIED and masons had 3 FUCKING NIGHTS

Mayor and Mason Enfocer?

do you really think the savages have TWO INVESTIGATORS???

You cannot investigate anymore because Ballard is dead.

tonight i was FUCKING DRUGDEALED AGAIN

Results on Phelps was a lie then?

ps: since i dont give a fuck anymore if you trust me or not i might aswell admit that i actually never checked cohen.

Cafarelli lies!

in that night i went to galetta and now have a guess what i received... awesome right

New recruit?

fm phelps once said something about me doing gambits.

Your last gambit?

[FM Buchwalter]

Morning all!

Nothing to report, I will post my tally list in a bit, plus something special i have been cooking up.

So if anyone have some more feedback for me to note down, do share.

[FM Earle]

'mayor' passes soma to the FUCKING MAFIA instead of the CONFIRMED invest,

Dead/roleblocked/drugged/savage/mafia investigator is soma wasted.

[FM Cafarelli]

Earle thinks that Cafarelli is blackmailed and forced to vote Phelps, most likely.

Else Cafarelli is Savage Godfather angry that Mafia killed his investigator, even more likely.



Mayor and Mason Enfocer?



You cannot investigate anymore because Ballard is dead.


Results on Phelps was a lie then?



Cafarelli lies!


New recruit?



Your last gambit?

nope i am not blackmailed, phelps is scum. learn 2 read maybe, this night i wasnt drugged. dd rbed or something
the rest you say is RIDICULOUS AS FUCK pls suicide aswell, not even gonna respond to that shit

and yes, drugged is soma wasten but this wouldn't happen if bd wasnt SO FUCKING RETARDED
and better waste than get 2 kills you FUCKTARD

[FM Earle]

Fake read on Phelps? Never thought about that? No no... such possibilities cannot happen to Cafarelli.

Inexperienced Cafarelli is.

[FM Cafarelli]

whut

[FM Earle]

-Fake role feedback (i.e. Your target is a Mafia Architect / Architect / Jailor / Devourer)

IQ is 71 perhaps. Maybe so.

[FM Cafarelli]

lol no not possible question was already asked. why you defend scum?

[FM Black]

I'm detecting a strange change to Caff.... I see alot of stupid...plently of rage/troll... I'm suspecting blackmail? Not to sure....

[FM Black]

i did NOT WITHHELD INFORMATION. also you're (once again) talking COMPLETE BULLSHIT, withholding information is often essential!

Actually you stated that you were going to withhold information in a clear and concise sentence. You wound up revealing it though.