Day 5

[FM Parker]

@Rose, and the doctor miraculously healed the posioner's target until Day 5. Again, that's bullshit.

WE DO NOT HAVE A CONFIRMED KIDNAPPER!

Sorry, there will not be two interviews. That would require two somas going to Earle. That's not happening Buchwalter. One is out. The soma went from Parker --> Buchwalter --> Earle (unless Earle's was faked).

There is no poisoner or interceptor.

[FM Buchwalter]

Colymer is a dead delta btw, sucided to the blackmail.

Yeah I seemingly forgot him, thanks.

Also, no need to quote the whole post.

[FM Parker]

Even if y'all think there's a confirmed kidnapper, keeping Dunn/Fontaine alive keeps the bus driver alive an additional day due to the fact that the kidnapper wouldn't kill the bus driver and have no place to hide.

So we should lynch between Buchwalter and Earle. Period.

[FM Earle]

Since I do not think I can vote for my self, and I think this whole thing will be proven with the two interviews tomorrow. I suggest we lynch the clear Kidnapper that is Dunn.

Nope, I've thought about that. His teammates will false claim bussed for the case of Morgan and Ballard. Not Kidnapper.

[FM Ackerman]

Even if y'all think there's a confirmed kidnapper, keeping Dunn/Fontaine alive keeps the bus driver alive an additional day due to the fact that the kidnapper wouldn't kill the bus driver and have no place to hide.

So we should lynch between Buchwalter and Earle. Period.

Then go earle hes obviously lying no reason to do that if he's town. He chose his role claim to force either the journalist or th investigator to reveal. Smart defense because even when he loses he wins, except I caught on to the interview suggestions including the dead detective.

[FM Buchwalter]

@Rose, and the doctor miraculously healed the posioner's target until Day 5. Again, that's bullshit.

WE DO NOT HAVE A CONFIRMED KIDNAPPER!

Sorry, there will not be two interviews. That would require two somas going to Earle. That's not happening Buchwalter. One is out. The soma went from Parker --> Buchwalter --> Earle (unless Earle's was faked).

There is no poisoner or interceptor.

Would be a pretty big and risky plan to hold the Interceptor back from killing for this long, just to possibly make the Mayor think that his Soma was used by a Godfather. But this would be epic none the less.

As for there not being a Kidnapper? I find it hard to believe.

[FM Parker]

If you think Earle is so scummy, why the hell are you voting for Dunn and not the GF? If we get the GF, then the mafia is forced to give up a role in order to have a night kill at all. Changing the train to Dunn makes NO logical sense.

[FM Parker]

Let me rephrase. THE IDENTITY OF THE KIDNAPPER IS NOT CONFIRMED BY ANY STRETCH.

We should lynch between the dichotomy of confirmed scum. Period.

[FM Ackerman]

The soma is irrelevant to the lynching of Earle, I don't trust you yet, but the fact is Earle lied.

@Parker Im not voting for earle because you certainly won't back me on it you think he's innocent the moment you go back on Earle I will join you.

[FM Parker]

Would be a pretty big and risky plan to hold the Interceptor back from killing for this long, just to possibly make the Mayor think that his Soma was used by a Godfather. But this would be epic none the less.

As for there not being a Kidnapper? I find it hard to believe.

That plan would have to be formed from night 1. There's no way of knowing if the Mayor would ever pass the soma to mafia or not. There were plenty of people thinking I wouldn't pass the soma at all because it was too risky.

[FM Ackerman]

Let me rephrase. THE IDENTITY OF THE KIDNAPPER IS NOT CONFIRMED BY ANY STRETCH.

We should lynch between the dichotomy of confirmed scum. Period.

Dunn is confirmed scum by himself, unless of course he didn't write the article. He guessed on who was bussd and my holding information caught him in the act.

[FM Parker]

The soma is irrelevant to the lynching of Earle, I don't trust you yet, but the fact is Earle lied.

@Parker Im not voting for earle because you certainly won't back me on it you think he's innocent the moment you go back on Earle I will join you.

The minute there is a CC on Earle's claim I will vote him. You would get your Earle lynch if Buchwalter isn't scum and Fontaine.

I really don't see why you're refusing to vote for Earle or Buchwalter. To me, it looks like you're refusing to vote one of your own. The mayor isn't essential to a lynch. Plus, I will lynch one regardless. So you might as well vote Earle. If I see later in the day, we can only lynch Earle I will lynch him in order to confirm scum.

[FM Parker]

Dunn is confirmed scum by himself, unless of course he didn't write the article. He guessed on who was bussd and my holding information caught him in the act.

Right Cafarelli guessed who wrote that Article. Fontaine actually wrote it. That's still very much possible. I don't see a second scum popping out and trading himself for a delta at this point. The mafia would let the GF (Earle) die.

[FM Ackerman]

The minute there is a CC on Earle's claim I will vote him. You would get your Earle lynch if Buchwalter isn't scum and Fontaine.

I really don't see why you're refusing to vote for Earle or Buchwalter. To me, it looks like you're refusing to vote one of your own. The mayor isn't essential to a lynch. Plus, I will lynch one regardless. So you might as well vote Earle. If I see later in the day, we can only lynch Earle I will lynch him in order to confirm scum.

I agree I'm refusing to vote for one of my own, I believe atm that buchwalter is town. We are strapped for votes already losing a delta and another night is detrimental at the least.

[FM Parker]

If the bus driver keeps me alive, then we can certainly turn around and start lynching all of the scum. I really don't see your problem Ackerman. All the bus driver has to do is bus me and I stay alive.

[FM Ackerman]

Right Cafarelli guessed who wrote that Article. Fontaine actually wrote it. That's still very much possible. I don't see a second scum popping out and trading himself for a delta at this point. The mafia would let the GF (Earle) die.

D1/N2 Detective, claims investigator
D2/N3 Rose, claims delta
D3/N4 Dunn, claims bussings
D4/N5 Fontaine, claims delta replacement.

Dunn did write the article according to this, the reason i belive he wrote it though is that he has not denied it.

[FM Rose]

If the bus driver keeps me alive, then we can certainly turn around and start lynching all of the scum. I really don't see your problem Ackerman. All the bus driver has to do is bus me and I stay alive.

The mafia can roleblock the bus driver if they have a consort and then attack you. I hope there is a doctor on you aswell.

[FM Ackerman]

If the bus driver keeps me alive, then we can certainly turn around and start lynching all of the scum. I really don't see your problem Ackerman. All the bus driver has to do is bus me and I stay alive.

The bus driver has outted and can be rbed.

[FM Parker]

D1/N2 Detective, claims investigator
D2/N3 Rose, claims delta
D3/N4 Dunn, claims bussings
D4/N5 Fontaine, claims delta replacement.

Dunn did write the article according to this, the reason i belive he wrote it though is that he has not denied it.

Where did Fontaine claim Delta replacement? That's obviously not consistent with writing the article. If that's the case, I'd actually jump back to lynching Earle and leaving Buchwalter alive. When Earle would then flip GF, we can lynch Fontaine.

[FM Ackerman]

Where did Fontaine claim Delta replacement? That's obviously not consistent with writing the article. If that's the case, I'd actually jump back to lynching Earle and leaving Buchwalter alive. When Earle would then flip GF, we can lynch Fontaine.

Todays opening post.

[FM Ackerman]

Where did Fontaine claim Delta replacement? That's obviously not consistent with writing the article. If that's the case, I'd actually jump back to lynching Earle and leaving Buchwalter alive. When Earle would then flip GF, we can lynch Fontaine.

Hello, I am a replacement. Delta is my role, so only the Journalist knows who and what I am now. Nothing has happened to me during ANY nights. Very boring.

I have skimmed thought a lot of the previous days and enjoyed FM Buchwalter's information and I have to say, I will listen to what he says and I put my trust in him.

My previous owner thought of Monroe being scummy, so I will be watching him/her. But I will be looking into what mostly happens next than what has happened to try and spot the scum.

I have nothing else to add to this. But I will be engaging into this more now. I wish my side the best of luck and look forward to posting.

Do you really think that isn't enough information to realize who was interviewed?

[FM Parker]

Ok we are talking like trains in the night. That article is probably written by a delta. It is highly possible Fontaine wrote that. I don't see anyone jumping to counterclaim that.

The article Dunn is accused of writing is the night before. Dunn could indeed be a bus driver.

[FM Ackerman]

Sorry that was intrview night 5

[FM Monroe]

2) Has Coroner confirmed Bishop's last will yet?
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...767#post320767

Earle, checking in.

Earle offers sagely advice.

Last will

The truth will prevail

My first thought regarding Earle when he originally posted that last will was that he was soft claiming coroner, providing a last will from the dead architect from night 1, which was Gage NOT Bishop.

A coroner could not have checked Bishop yet at that time because he was not dead before night 2.

But he never posted any last wills since then. And his journalist claim would be utterly stupid even if none of the other people he checked left a last will.

Why the hell is he asking for a coroner to confirm that what he posted there was Bishop's last will?

[FM Ackerman]

Ok we are talking like trains in the night. That article is probably written by a delta. It is highly possible Fontaine wrote that. I don't see anyone jumping to counterclaim that.

The article Dunn is accused of writing is the night before. Dunn could indeed be a bus driver.

Now take into consideration he claimed journalist, dissapeared for quite a while and came back with 4 interviews. He was trying to come up with guesses for who was interviewed. He couldn't find a viable guess for the investigator so he claimed a dead guy.

[FM Parker]

My first thought regarding Earle when he originally posted that last will was that he was soft claiming coroner, providing a last will from the dead architect from night 1, which was Gage NOT Bishop.

A coroner could not have checked Bishop yet at that time because he was not dead before night 2.

But he never posted any last wills since then. And his journalist claim would be utterly stupid even if none of the other people he checked left a last will.

Why the hell is he asking for a coroner to confirm that what he posted there was Bishop's last will?

I think Morgan was the coroner. That would explain why none of the wills have been outed. The coroner (a gamma) was savaged early on using a recruit as.

As for Earle/Buchwalter, I could go either way right now. I just think it's more likely Buchwalter since I cannot see Fontaine being a total idiot and protecting the GF in this situation.

[FM Monroe]

I think Morgan was the coroner. That would explain why none of the wills have been outed. The coroner (a gamma) was savaged early on using a recruit as.

As for Earle/Buchwalter, I could go either way right now. I just think it's more likely Buchwalter since I cannot see Fontaine being a total idiot and protecting the GF in this situation.

Granted, Morgan could have been coroner, but the question still remains. Why does Earle refer to that post he made as if it was relevant for his journalist claim?

[FM Parker]

Earle's posts are consistently confusing. I think he's saying that the coroner should check his last will in that post. I read his statement as "The truth will prevail... in my last will".

[FM Monroe]

Then why is the quote preceded by asking to confirm Bishop's last will?

And how does a coroner checking Earle's last will confirm anything if those are the contents?

[FM Ackerman]

Earle confirm this. But this is odd. Why Earle. Earle thinks Earle drugged. Or Buchwalter drugged.

Earle posted that Earle was attempts to threaten Earle to give reads and was drugged.



Earle is the Journalist. Maybe Corrupt Journalist.

Let Earle's night actions speak for themselves.

D2 Investigator claimer (cause he is blending first half of Day1 - submitted interview during first half of Day1 - with cults, blenders are most likely town, without cult, blenders can be town/mafia)
D3 Rose (Cohen vs Cafarelli)
D4 Bus Driver claimer (another blender)

Waiting for counter claim if any.

Will submit names for D2 and D4 after I finish reading.

Since Mayor is pressuring Earle. Earle had to reveal interviewed targets.

Prepare for surprise.

Bishop (his last will - hinted in the day he died I think, truth will unfold - hoping for coroner to confirm his code)
Rose (you already claimed)
Dunn (you were pretty obvious, so no harm done)
Fontaine (sorry man)

I still think something is not right with Cafarelli. Voting him up because there is just too much coincidence. Already asked numerous times, WHY ARE YOU STILL ALIVE?

UNVOTE PLEASE BEFORE SCUM/TOWN HAMMERS EARLE!

REMEMBER EARLE CAN EITHER BE JOURNALIST OR CORRUPT JOURNALIST!!!

Don't kill potential ally!

Note the amount of posts in between.

[FM Ackerman]

I think Morgan was the coroner. That would explain why none of the wills have been outed. The coroner (a gamma) was savaged early on using a recruit as.

As for Earle/Buchwalter, I could go either way right now. I just think it's more likely Buchwalter since I cannot see Fontaine being a total idiot and protecting the GF in this situation.

If fontaine is correct he would be an indiot not to. Thats what I'm saying, you take 30 mins and review the non posters and tell me fontaine isn't a good guess for replacement.

[FM Parker]

If fontaine is correct he would be an indiot not to. Thats what I'm saying, you take 30 mins and review the non posters and tell me fontaine isn't a good guess for replacement.

If it's obvious the GF is going to get lynched, the smart play is to deny being interviewed. Then, the denier has major town points. Instead, he's inexplicably linked himself to Earle.

I'm not liking Earle's posts though. That being said... if Earle is the journalist, we will come back and lynch Buchwalter.

-vote FM Earle

[FM Ackerman]

If it's obvious the GF is going to get lynched, the smart play is to deny being interviewed. Then, the denier has major town points. Instead, he's inexplicably linked himself to Earle.

I'm not liking Earle's posts though. That being said... if Earle is the journalist, we will come back and lynch Buchwalter.

-vote FM Earle

As promised

-vote FM Earle

[FM Monroe]

[vote]FM Earle[/vpte]
I don't like Buchwalter, but I trust Earle much less. I also don't like how the n4 article called him confirmed town.

AFK for a bit.

[FM Parker]

Monroe, you made a typo in your post.

[FM Monroe]

-vote FM Earle

I should put my contacts in before posting.

[FM Rose]

Earle hasn't even been counterclaimed, he will probably just flip journalist or savage journalist.

[FM Ackerman]

Earle hasn't even been counterclaimed, he will probably just flip journalist or savage journalist.

Why counterclaim him when he exposed himself? Don't give mafia information. Just lynch him quietly.

[FM Cafarelli]

Earle's defense does have a gaping hole in it, if you believe Dunn wrote the article. We've been speculating that based on the usually partially reasoned Cafarelli. Cafarelli wouldn't know but she's taking a logical guess.

If we lynch Buchwalter and he is a delta, we are trading one delta for two scum (Earle and Fontaine). Plus, no one has CCed Earle, which makes his claim infinitely more believable.

lol i'm not partially reasoned. i'm always completely reasoned. my analysis was also absolutely reasoned. it makes perfectly sense
however you are mostly not really reasoned.

As I did say in my Soma message, I'm Delta. So there is no lose in lynching me, other then a lynch that could have been used better.

-unvote

I agree that Earle likely not the Godfather, but this only bring more questions:

1. Was the Soma used by the Godfather from the Masons?
   This can be proven by seeing that there is two interviews tomorrow.
2. The amount of possible drugged claims seem way too high for there to be only one Drug Dealer.
   This can be proven by lynching Cafarelli, if he is town the drugged claims have to have been true.
3. I'm a mafia and passed the Soma to the Godfather, meanwhile a Drug Dealer drugged Earle.
   This can be proven by lynching me.

Since I do not think I can vote for my self, and I think this whole thing will be proven with the two interviews tomorrow. I suggest we lynch the clear Kidnapper that is Dunn.

-vote FM Dunn

2) is complete bullshit. first i've pointed out that the amount of drug deals is not to high. second lynching an invest just to point out that he was really drug dealed is really not pro town. you won't get any town points from me for this.

He said it was a lie.

Also:

Spoiler : Drug Dealer role card :

Drug Dealer
You may drug a player with false feedback of your choice OR prevent a player from receiving their night feedback (actions still occur, the player is just not notified about what happened to them at night). The drug dealer cannot prevent a player from receiving feedback from his fellow mafia members.

-Fake roleblock / attacked and healed / bus drive / poison / recruitment to the cult / blacksmith materials received / dousing / witching / jester annoyance / student selected you as a mentor / discovered the interceptor / received Soma / any other possible night feedback
-Fake blackmail (On any given night, you must send the same note as a real blackmailer on your team)
-Fake role feedback (i.e. Your target is a Mafia Architect / Architect / Jailor / Devourer)

good that you point this out. this confirms monroe as escort, because if he was consort i would have been notified.

If you think Earle is so scummy, why the hell are you voting for Dunn and not the GF? If we get the GF, then the mafia is forced to give up a role in order to have a night kill at all. Changing the train to Dunn makes NO logical sense.

buchwalter can't be gf, because monroe blocked him. all actions went through: kill, kidnapper, drug (morgan), bm (colmyer), consort (who would be immune but monroe didnt say he was immune)
apart from consig. so either he is consig or he is really gf and the consig killed (unlikely)
so he must've passed the soma to his gf

Right Cafarelli guessed who wrote that Article. Fontaine actually wrote it. That's still very much possible. I don't see a second scum popping out and trading himself for a delta at this point. The mafia would let the GF (Earle) die.

nope i didn't guess, i used my brain to figure it out and give you the reasons why i came to the logical conclusion


@earle: how did you know your soma was fake

also i don't think lynching earle is better than buchwalter. first, see my last post when i explained how everything matches with this mafia plan. it makes perfectly sense. while just using the received soma to kill 2 guys without any defense plan doesnt.
furthermore better kill another cit than a journalist right?
also noone cced journalist

i won't sheep the mayor on this and every other target and ppl who do won't get any town points
he may be confirmed once the host comes on but it's pretty obvious that he's not the brightest player

[FM Rose]

The evidence that earle is not a journalist is extremely weak.

[FM Ryan]

Why you don't vote the obvious consort?

-vote FM Phelps

Seriosly, this is the best way to stop our Bus Driver from being roleblocked.

[FM Cafarelli]

anyway, if you can't decide between earle and buchwalter, i'd like to make a suggestion. it's failsafe: just lynch dunn today. then we will see tomorrow. maybe i can even check them tonight, given the bd helps me

[FM Ackerman]

Newly formulated scum theories.
Mafia
FM Earle - Godfather
FM Carafelli - Consigliere
FM Galletta - Unknown

Other non-town
FM Dunn - Savage,Witch, or Epsilon

[FM Ackerman]

The evidence that earle is not a journalist is extremely weak.

I suppose you'd lie in your article saying you got an investigative lead as a detective too. Totally pro-town that strategy.

[FM Rose]

I suppose you'd lie in your article saying you got an investigative lead as a detective too. Totally pro-town that strategy.

earle was interviewed?

[FM Earle]

Then why is the quote preceded by asking to confirm Bishop's last will?

And how does a coroner checking Earle's last will confirm anything if those are the contents?

Thankfully Earle is online preparing for work tomorrow.

Bishop found Consort/Blackmailer suspect. Or so I understood. The codes are for him prove himself. And the Coroner.

Why don't you think nobody counterclaimed the interview?

You guys are just baying for blood. Fail Mayor should die tonight.

[FM Ryan]

Don't you understand? The best role that we need to lynch today is consort, who I believe is Phelps!

Monroe, you're the town escort, right? Knock some sense into then! You all will say thanks to me later!

[FM Cafarelli]

Newly formulated scum theories.
Mafia
FM Earle - Godfather
FM Carafelli - Consigliere
FM Galletta - Unknown

Other non-town
FM Dunn - Savage,Witch, or Epsilon

bullshit.

godfather: unknown
drug dealer: unknown
consig: buchwalter
kidnapper: dunn
consort: phelps
blackmailer: galetta? donelly?

[FM Parker]

@Cafarelli, a bird in the hand is better than two in the bush. I'm not totally convinced that the Dunn push wasn't started by mafia. We can lynch Dunn if we keep me alive. Buchwalter might not be the GF but either he is mafia or Earle is the GF. There is no third option. If you believe that Earle is telling the truth, you lynch Buchwalter. If you think Earle is lying, you lynch Buchwalter. Either way confirms a scum. Period.

Ryan, vote Earle or Buchwalter.

[FM Ackerman]

earle was interviewed?

No, but according to earle the dead detective supposedly wrote the article claiming he was invest and found a consort/escort/witch/ghost pairing.