Day 3

[FM Biggs]

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We're at l-2. STOP!

[FM Ballard]

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We're at l-2. STOP!

L-3.

[FM Ballard]

where is everyone? I'm going to bed now

[FM Ackerman]

Sorry I'm late, I had an interesting night again btw.

[FM Leary]

If I claim =
mafia can have a more accurate threat assessment about me
town is still no wheres closer to deciding if Cafarelli lied or not about me
if I survive, we continue this feud tomorrow instead of actually scum hunting. (I've yet to see anyone providing any reasonable scum target while this feud goes on, everyone has blinders on and isn't even looking at anyone else)

If I don't claim =
mafia doesn't know what I am
town knows nothing less than if I did claim
if I survive, I might have something I can use tomorrow.

either way, if I end up in the graveyard, claiming is irrelevant

This post seems like a last ditch effort of a PR scum that's trying to accomplish something for at least one more night.
The entire post reeks of "Gimme another night so i can talk it over with my team" if I survive, I might have something I can use tomorrow.

Also not claiming at this point makes it look like you haven't actually decided what you want to claim (as scum).

I'm keeping my vote on you and we'll know more after you kick the bucket. Especially the people you suspected in accordance to your real role should help us out tremendously after you die, regardless of faction.

[FM Buchwalter]

Do you think it means anything that Buchwalter's notes from yesterday didn't include Cafarelli's result on Rose?

I'm still learning about what is interesting to add to "my" list. I had linked to the post where Cafarelli revealed, i knew that Rose's investigative result was in the same post so I didn't think it was needed to write more about it.

I said already, I use this list as much or maybe even more as my own notes then anything else.

[FM Buchwalter]

Feedback Claims:

• Godfather
  
  1. killed Becket
• Blackmailers or Drug Dealers
  
  1. blackmailed Colmyer
  2. blackmailed/drugged Cafarelli (Supposing she's innocent here, big stretch here... can't see Cohen lying about his investigative pairing).
  3. blackmailed/drugged John Doe (We're missing a bus driven/blackmailed feedback
• Escort / Consort
  
  1. blocked Black
  2. blocked Kelso
• Bus Driver / Kidnapper
  
  1. bussed Ballard
  2. bussed Colmyer
  3. bussed Kalou
• Journalist / Corrupted Journalist
  
  1. interviewd unknown
• Witch
  
  1. witched Morgan

The list is "feedback claims" not "feedback guesses". Besides, like i wrote day 1. Everything can be explained with Drug Dealer or Blackmailer, so unless it is a claim or very obvious like Colmyer and Morgan day 2, i will not put it on the list.

[FM Cafarelli]

i dont like the absence of the hosts and i don't think a real town wouldn't roleclaim in this situation

[FM Cohen]

I just logged on Cafarelli, glad to see you still here. Other than "Cohen is scum" do you have anything else you'd like to say?

I'm debating if I want to say everything I suspect to give town the best odds possible after I die or if I should just keep it all to myself.

[FM Cohen]

Game is rather boring when everyone jumps on a claimed PR train. Not much I can do to stop it until one of us is dead.

[FM Cohen]

Although taking me out of the game is probably a wise thing, even though mafia will be trading more than one of their own to kill me off.

[FM Carruthers]

Game is rather boring when everyone jumps on a claimed PR train. Not much I can do to stop it until one of us is dead.

I'd like to agree, but this has gone as far as requiring the life of either of you.

Try to make most of this, sharing all opinions and theories unless there's nothing more to say.

[FM Cafarelli]

sure, i also suspect some other individuals but i will come to them once we got rid of you

we don't only follow the PRs but if they get clues they should ofc be followed
also you should claim a role now or tell at least in which invest pairing you claim to be in, since you said i was wrong?

and ofc you should tell us all you know ;)

[FM Cohen]

meh, not gonna survive till the end of this game anyways, mafia screwed me over last night, I might as well screw them over before they kill me.

Monroe is 100% mafia
Biggs is 100% mafia
Gallatta is 75% chance mafia, huge posting difference between d1 and d2/d3 + most likely lied about roleblock and was tipped off by Monroe to not claim exact wording of pm
Parker is 70% chance of being mafia for active stupidity and for some unknown reason hard defending me
Earle is 50% chance of being mafia, hard to read this lurker that was probably just replaced.

My hunch tells me that Ballard is scum, but I can't find any ties to the above group.
Carruthers and Kalou's posts all 3 days have been modkill worthy yet he seems to be the same guy, probably scum lurking.

Another one of my hunches tells me that Mendez needs to be under scrutiny, might want to investigate her next Cafarelli.
Don't have a clue what Colmyer is, but I'm 90% sure he is lying about him being blackmailed today.

Rose is a Citizen or was yesterday at least.
Cafarelli is legit invest: I won't tell you why I know this

My take on the role list:

GF
consort
drug dealer
blackmailer
kidnapper
unknown (I'm not adding in an auto consig with nothing but a flimsy news article to go on)

Savage GF
1 extra (not 2)

Neutral evil = ? I don't believe Biggs was witched, especially twice.

neutral = jester/ghost

and I'm ... you'll find out with 3 more votes.

[FM Cohen]

guess my role before the day is out to win a cookie

[FM Carruthers]

guess my role before the day is out to win a cookie

Bus Driver?

[FM Black]

guess my role before the day is out to win a cookie

Drug dealer

[FM Cafarelli]

how to read this post once you flip scum? i'm pretty sure you included some teammates.

so what do you think colmyer was bmed to today

and why do you know i'm a legit invest

[FM Cafarelli]

guess my role before the day is out to win a cookie

ive already guessed ;) drug dealer i said

[FM Cohen]

I'm not mafia, we wouldn't be having this discussion if I were...

[FM Cafarelli]

why not?

[FM Cohen]

because I would have taken care of you last night, no hard feelings

[FM Buchwalter]

Feedback Claims:

• Godfather
  
  1. killed Becket
• Blackmailer
  
  1. blackmailed Colmyer
• Escort / Consort
  
  1. blocked Black
  2. blocked Kelso
• Bus Driver / Kidnapper
  
  1. bussed Ballard
  2. bussed Colmyer
  3. bussed Kalou
• Journalist / Corrupted Journalist
  
  1. interviewd unknown
  2. interviewd Galletta but not publicized
• Witch
  
  1. witched Morgan

Notable Posts:

• Ackerman
  
  1. Say "interesting night" without explaining again. [#304]
• Black
  
  1. Claims PR? [#31]
• Buchwalter
  
  1. Day 1 version of this list. [D1 #535]
  2. Day 2 version of this list. [D2 #783]
• Cafarelli
  
  1. As self-claimed Investigator, calls out to lynch Cohen. [#46]
• Cohen
  
  1. First post, tring to defend him self. [#213]
• Colmyer
  
  1. Claims blackmailed, with message and all. [#54]
  2. Claims Delta. [#68]
• Morgan
  
  1. Claims blackmailed night 2 and witched night 3. [#218]
• Rose
  
  1. Claims Delta. [#171]

Lynch Trains:

• Cafarelli
  
  1. Opsessed with getting Cohen lynched, but have no proof other then his word. [#46]
• Cohen
  
  1. Been checked by Cafarelli (self-claimed Investigator), and appear as "Drug Dealer / Kidnapper / Blacksmith / Bus Driver / Vigilante / Veteran / Arsonist / Student" [#46]

[FM Cafarelli]

btw i don't think you are but i think you're trying to make us believe you're escort^^

you taking care of me would result in your death aswell. or you just failed to take care of me^^

[FM Cohen]

on a side note = the kidnapper is towns greatest threat since he can negate all healings by switching you with anyone else and get mafia to attack the other guy you are switched with.

[FM Cafarelli]

sure thats the biggest problem i have atm. i think i will die soon. but am i worth a kill + the kidnapper? i am just an invest who happened to find a scum because he made a mistake

[FM Cohen]

Scum will take any chance they get to kill an invest. Simply because if you are good enough, you can guess their roles and use your invest claim to push the lynch, town sheeps on PRs as demonstrated today. People like me rather use gambits and catch people in a trap, I tried my best to hint that to you.

The main difference is PRs can be killed off easily once they find their 1 scum and then town has no leader. Whereas, I prefer to find as many scum as I can before revealing.. thus my list a few posts above.

Btw, Monroe made a huge scumslip d1 that only I picked up on exposing himself and Biggs to be mafia. This was before Biggs claimed to be witched, thus why I doubt his "witched" claim.

It's hard for me to investigate my way when the discussion is focused on me... especially with nothing for me to say. Donno what people expected me to say when they added a pressure vote, I had said everything I had to say. People don't know what pressure is. Only reason I'm talking now is that scum will want to kill me at night just as much as during the day, which was part of my reason for lying about being poisoned. I wasn't targeted by mafia at night because they weren't sure what I was. The other part was that I was hoping that mafia had a way to communicate.. I would surely be a valued person to talk to.

[FM Cohen]

Anyways, it was fun while it lasted. My life usually ends around day 2-3 when I don't mask who I am.

[FM Buchwalter]

I will take a shot at this, but i warn you, it is not my strong side.

Likely town:

1. Colmyer
   
   • Fairly active doing the day.
   • Seem level-headed.
   • Having been blackmailed.
2. Morgan
   
   • Good analyzer and shares his findings.
   • Having been blackmailed.

Likely scum:

1. Ackerman
   
   • Causes unneeded confusion with his first posts each day.
   • Seems as if he is withholding information.
   • Does not explain reason votes.
   • Has not posted a whole lot.
2. Bekowsky
   
   1. Has not posted a whole lot.
3. Dunn
   
   • Has not posted a whole lot.
   • Seems to lurk and write somewhat short posts.
4. Monroe
   
   1. Simply causing confusion and making huge jokes on us. (fake Mayor reveal)
   2. Seems to not care about pressure.
5. Parker
   
   1. Very quick to judge.
   2. Fail to know simple things about the game.
   3. Thinks blackmail and drugs can answer everything.

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This is more my cup of tea.

Possible mafia role list:

1. Godfather
2. Blackmailer
3. Drug Dealer
4. Drug Dealer
5. Kidnapper
6. Consort

My day 2 theory still seem to hold water. [#734]

The roles' possible actions:

1. Night 1
   
   • Gage was killed by the Godfather.
   • Cohen was fake poisoned by a Drug Dealer.
   • Cafarelli was feedback prevented by a Drug Dealer.
2. Night 2
   
   • Bishop was killed by the Godfather.
   • Morgan and Colmyer is blackmailed by Blackmailer and Drug Dealer.
3. Night 3
   
   • Becket was killed by the Godfather.
   • Someone is blackmailed by Blackmailer and bussed by the Bus Driver.
   • Bus Driver redirect blackmail onto Colmyer.

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Suspicious buddying:

• None that i see.
  But again this is not my strong side.

Suspicious lurkers:

• Ackerman
• Carruthers
• Dunn
• Earle
• And many more.

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Some not so random "what if"s.

If I was the Journalist, who would I interview?

1. Night 2
   
   • Morgan seemed like an as good target as any. Not a lot of information was available day 1. But Morgan seem to not post to much, and I would have liked to hear more from him.
2. Night 3
   
   • Cohen I would like to have heard from in an interview after he did not die and was not lynched.

If I was Mayor:

• I would not reveal yet, the longer it takes for scum to figure there was a Mayor the better.

[FM Cohen]

I still wouldn't mind talking to you before 3 more people come to vote. It's getting quiet again.

To any town gun holder, I leave it up to you to decide if you want to take a shot at the people I named, keep in mind that the kidnapper will probably be trying to save them from you.

[FM Cohen]

I'm still undecided with Buchwalter.. he is what I would call a tally keeper, but that doesn't mean he is scum. Although his above posts does seem to omit anything about me... which is a bit suspicious. And yes, I was expecting to be interviewed last night as well where I probably would have shared most of my findings since even if its the corrupt journalist, he can't do anything about me without mafias help.

Btw, I still find it odd that people trust Monroe after all the stupidities he has caused... and both his town leading trains have been against other town.

I haven't gotten a chance to judge Morgan with yesterdays fiasco, but he hasn't done anything scummy in my books.

[FM Parker]

I don't get why you are being an ass to me Cohen. That makes me suspect I've been suffering from confirmation bias for my push to lynch Cafarelli. She's the logical suspect, you are the emotional one right now. Given the fact the two things don't agree, I'm backing off a little on Cafarelli. Your lie about being poisioned (post 327) has cost the town valuable information and caused a hell of a lot more chaos than any town should have ever intended. When Cafarelli claimed drugged, you should have announced your lie then. I'm utterly pissed off. I defended you because I thought no rational person would lie in your situation and a savage investigator/delayed Consigliere mouthpiece WOULD lie.

Cohen, claim by the time I get back, otherwise I will hammer you myself. I won't be back until late in the day anyway, so we won't lose anything by then. I've been doing all I can to make sure a town doesn't get lynched but I am pretty worried that I made a huge mistake and dramatically derailed the town. You've already admitting to lying about poisioning, which totally threw the town off for awhile. See post 327. I don't like liars. Without such a conflict, I'm not as confident Cafarelli is scum.

I will humor you however. Please post the posts where Monroe makes the scumslip regarding Biggs.

-vote unvote

Also, thank you for finally posting your thoughts Buchwalter.

[FM Buchwalter]

I'm still undecided with Buchwalter.. he is what I would call a tally keeper, but that doesn't mean he is scum. Although his above posts does seem to omit anything about me... which is a bit suspicious. And yes, I was expecting to be interviewed last night as well where I probably would have shared most of my findings since even if its the corrupt journalist, he can't do anything about me without mafias help.

Btw, I still find it odd that people trust Monroe after all the stupidities he has caused... and both his town leading trains have been against other town.

I haven't gotten a chance to judge Morgan with yesterdays fiasco, but he hasn't done anything scummy in my books.

I decided not to write anything about you and Cafarelli, mostly because i think this lynching is a mistake, but also because i think you could have both been drugged. Then again you did just say that you lied about the poisoning? [#327]
That does put a damper on my supposed mafia list.

I agree with Monroe tough, but he has not done anything really notable day 3 yet, so maybe he is tuning down the trolling?

[FM Cohen]

There were a few things that I wanted to question some people on from day 1 that I haven't gotten around to:


Ballard = second post random FoSes Lichtmann before Lichtmann ever posted???

Galloway d1r120 suspects Dunn being a neutral = I haven't figered out why yet, all of Dunn's posts seem to be regular d1 stuff when he said that
then Galloway emphasized that by adding Dunn down as a neutral in Buch's list.
IMO, Galloway knows something about Dunn that he isn't sharing.

Hogeboom: pushed for the idea that Monroe was blackmailed d1.. which I highly doubt. He has been rather quiet since... might want to look into him as well.

[FM Cohen]

@ Parker: I'm not claiming, nor am I emotional, just rational right now.. I know that I won't survive the night if I survive the day. Go ahead and hammer me.

[FM Earle]

Earle dropping by from his busy schedule.

-vote FM Cafarelli

Cohen does not act like town.

Earle is displeased that some players are calling Earle suspicious without giving any evidence. Earle does not want to end up like McKelty.

Earle notes that Buchwalter is trying to misdirect Journalist.

[FM Cohen]

Although nice rage post there Parker after that i named most of your teammates.

[FM Parker]

@Cohen, the reason I'm not voting you is the iota of a possibility that you're telling the truth now. Perhaps the time away from the keyboard will give me time to reflect. The rest of that, screw you.

Parker out for about 20 hours.

[FM Buchwalter]

Earle notes that Buchwalter is trying to misdirect Journalist.

What are you on about? I never said the (Corrupted) Journalist should do anything, just say who I would have interviewed.

[FM Cohen]

Cohen does not act like town.

I never act town.. anyone that knows who I am knows this, acting town gets people killed at night. And it's much more fun walking the thin line.

[FM Buchwalter]

Parker out for about 20 hours.

Is there even 20 hours left of the day?

[FM Biggs]

May I ask why you believe I am 100% Mafia Cohen? I'd be happy to explain any weird things I may have said.

[FM Cohen]

Is there even 20 hours left of the day?

lol... nope. So I guess he won't be hammering me.

[FM Buchwalter]

Is there even 20 hours left of the day?

16 hours left of day 3. If my math is right.

[FM Cohen]

Your own teammate sold you out d1 Biggs. And you pretty much confirmed my suspicion later in the day by claiming witched when there was no neutral feedback, probably hoping that the neutral evil was devourer and getting a chance to talk to him. You had plenty of time to claim witched earlier in the day if you intended to.

[FM Biggs]

Wolframalpha is your friend.

[FM Biggs]

Your own teammate sold you out d1 Biggs. And you pretty much confirmed my suspicion later in the day by claiming witched when there was no neutral feedback, probably hoping that the neutral evil was devourer and getting a chance to talk to him. You had plenty of time to claim witched earlier in the day if you intended to.

I'd like to remind you Morgon claimed wiched today.

I did not claim witched earlier in the day because I was unsure of whether to claim or not. I'm not used to being witched night one. Buchwalter's tally keeping is what convinced me to do so, I thought it would help with determining the role list.

[FM Biggs]

I'd like to remind you Morgon claimed wiched today.

I did not claim witched earlier in the day because I was unsure of whether to claim or not. I'm not used to being witched night one. Buchwalter's tally keeping is what convinced me to do so, I thought it would help with determining the role list.

Or Morgon's hypothetical roles list, I forgot which.

[FM Cohen]

Well, that clears some things up, I had missed that claim.

Put Morgan down as highly suspected mafia on my list, I figure 80%+

Which means I can also cross out the blackmailer on my list of suspected mafia roles. No one blackmailed n1. 2 people fake it n2. Makes sense to me.

[FM Cohen]

the other 20% is that Morgan is town that was blackmailed n2 and is drugged today.