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  1. ISO #51

    Re: Somebody has to start the dead chat conversation anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Bishop View Post
    I am the *dramatic drumming for tension* Investigator! Let's see if they figure it out before the Journalist says something.
    You do know that you claiming Investigator in the interview has only caused more confusion then good for the town, right?

    I most say my running theory was that Morgan was the second Investigator, but I guess the (claimed) Coroner said he was Delta.

  2. ISO #52

    Re: Somebody has to start the dead chat conversation anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Morgan View Post
    Omg, the town is so stupid... They see me FOS Ryan, then they see me die.
    I wonder what caused that?
    Phelps spoke about it once, yet didn't say anything else about it.
    My boss had tried to recruit him N1 but failed, so I decided to get him lynched, it would be good for us no matter what he flipped -other than Neutral Evil- and since I was just a Savage and not a PR, I was expendable, so if it was a Beta/Alpha, and then they lynched me, nothing would be lost.
    My allies and I decided that I would push, yet since I died, they have no idea what to do and won't push themselves. Gotta love it.
    We killed you mainly cause you were a voice of reason, and we thought you were a TPR. We were all pretty shocked to see you as a Savage.

    I did not notice this FoSing of Ryan, and I can tell you that that was not why we killed you.

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Morgan View Post
    Lets all take bets on who is gonna win this.

    My bet is on the Mafia.
    As for your bet? If Hopgood is not the Savage Godfather, my bet is on the Savages. Sadly my guess on the Savage Godfather is Hopgood, so my bet goes to us, the Mafia.

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Morgan View Post
    The Town just seems like they won't get anything done, and the few smart players they had are dying off, or are getting ignored by the majority, which are the newer players.
    And there you know why Parker is still alive.

  3. ISO #53

    Re: Somebody has to start the dead chat conversation anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Bishop View Post
    I wonder that there isn't any hint of a blackmailed target in the day chat.
    n1: Bishop was blackmailed; second Blackmailer was roleblocked?
    d1: Bishop did not fulfill his blackmail
    n2: Colmyer and Morgan get blackmailed and drugged; first Blackmailer is unable to blackmail again due to unfulfilled blackmail on Bishop
    d2: Colmyer and Morgan fulfill blackmail
    n3: Colmyer and ??? get blackmailed
    d3: Colmyer breaks blackmail but does not fulfill it; ??? keeps quite
    n4: No Blackmailer can take action
    d4: We should see the blackmail on ??? in action unless it was Morgan or Cohen
    Bishop I can tell you that the reason we killed you was because of two things:
    1. You were mocking us with the stupid blackmail that our Blackmailer sent out.
    2. We learned that on the OoO, if we killed you, we could blackmail someone the same night.


    No wasted blackmail, and we got the grin off your face.

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  5. ISO #55

    Re: Somebody has to start the dead chat conversation anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Bishop View Post
    I still think that the town will win this game. All they have to do is ask who received Soma. Those that don't answer that call are confirmed scum to the soma distributor. Sadly it will take until night 7 to pass that information without revealing.
    Yeah, sadly my scapegoat was a confirm-able role. Had I done the math better when I got the Soma, I would have passed the Soma to our Blackmailer, that way I would not have been found out.

  6. ISO #56

    Re: Somebody has to start the dead chat conversation anyway.

    My best bet of not getting lynched was if I could have gotten them to lynch Dunn instead, and then prevented Earle from publishing the single article.

    Not sure how it would have gone after that, but getting me swapped with Rose so I would appear Delta was on my suggestion list. Appearing as Delta and there being a kill when I was role-blocked would have cleared me from being Mafia.

    As for what would happen once Earle had been lynched? Blame the double kills on the Masons' Soma.

  7. ISO #57

    Re: Somebody has to start the dead chat conversation anyway.

    My best bet for who the Savages are:
    1. Hopgood as Savage Godfather


    And that is it, apart from Bishop and Ballard talking as if there is more one just the Savage Godfather right now, I believe that he will wait a little before recruiting again.
    All the TPRs are pretty reveal happy right now, so why not wait and see who is safe to recruit? Makes total sense to me.

    Anyway, no one reading this? Come on, AMA!

  8. ISO #58

    Re: Somebody has to start the dead chat conversation anyway.

    The Investigator claim in the interview was a setup to use your blackmail against you. At first I only wanted to roleblock your Blackmailer but over the course of day 2 I noticed that I could just seriously claim it. On night 2 I followed your drug dealer blackmailing Colmyer. I would have jumped Monroe because of the driving, but it might have worked out anyway. I could have rectified my claim to detective at any time.

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  10. ISO #60

    Re: Somebody has to start the dead chat conversation anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Bishop View Post
    And it was seriously fun to taunt you with your own blackmail.
    Yeah. Night 1 was only 24 hours long, we did no get much time to talk.
    Because of my time-zone I was also not there for the last 4th of the night.

    We started out agreeing on not blackmailing or drugging anyone, but then when I was half way through the night one of our members came on and selected actions for all of us. Since I'm not a FM veteran, I did not know other players could even select an action on my behalf.

  11. ISO #61

    Re: Somebody has to start the dead chat conversation anyway.

    Hehe, Buchwalter...

    Hopgood is not the Savage Godfather. Not even close, actually~

    What were you planning with my blackmailing? I don't know who I was bussed with (To receive the real blackmail, which said to make me appear as town, etc...)

    Was I going to be the Mafia's pawn?

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  16. ISO #66

    Re: Somebody has to start the dead chat conversation anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Colmyer View Post
    Hehe, Buchwalter...

    Hopgood is not the Savage Godfather. Not even close, actually~
    Wait how do you even know?

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Colmyer View Post
    What were you planning with my blackmailing? I don't know who I was bussed with (To receive the real blackmail, which said to make me appear as town, etc...)
    I guess you are not following the game anymore? Hogeboom claimed Bus Driver and said to have swapped you and Ackerman that night. This swapping we of course knew about cause we had tried to blackmail Ackerman.

    As for the idea behind the blackmail? to begin with when we were talking about the blackmail it was to force the blackmail victim to vote you. But for some reason it was changed to that that you saw, I have no idea why it was changed to that and I found it silly as I do not see why anyone would vote you after you were blackmailed.

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Colmyer View Post
    Was I going to be the Mafia's pawn?
    I do not think anyone in the mafia even thought of the word pawn, so no we were just playing with you.
    You seemed pretty townie and you were helpful to the town.

    But plain causing confusion and hopefully more mislynches was most likely the idea.

  17. ISO #67

    Re: Somebody has to start the dead chat conversation anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Bishop View Post
    Did the cult or mafia manage to mske contact with the Witch?
    No not that I know of, one of my mates may have been witched day 5 and did not claim it.
    There was no witched claim for night 4 and 5, I am guessing Morgan was witched a second time, but I do not know.

    We had a plan in the works for what we would do if it happened, but let us just say that there was some confusion in the planning.

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  19. ISO #69

    Re: Somebody has to start the dead chat conversation anyway.

    The mayor requested that I send this message to all of you guys in dead chat:

    Entertaining the Dead Chat - Preview of Coming Attractions

    My last will is taking longer than expected. So in the meantime, I figured I'd leave a message for you/the Dead Chat detailing my future plans for the game in the RARE event that I live.

    I was supposed to die night 5, so no one would have figured out that Buchwalter had the soma previously. It fell apart because I lived and Earle was a role for which no one counterclaimed. I lived because of the witch. I don't buy it as a coincidence the kidnapper bussed the Mayor with such a lurker. No doctor would heal the lurker nor would a bus hit them. Remind me to thank the witch.

    We have the consort responsible for blocking the kidnapper. Really, Monroe... are you just trying to [bleep] things up? His actions made me triple check my work before I could be certain that Phelps was the consort.

    My playing of an idiot forced almost all the mafia to jump into my ear to defend Buchwalter. I hope it keeps working to draw out the consigliere and the blackmailer. If I had to pick, the consigliere is Ackerman, but it could be Black. Dunn is the Kidnapper.

    It's also pretty obvious Hopgood is a savage. He's not the GF because Ballard was savaged night 1 and Hopgood was blocked on n1. (Long explanation in my will). I plan on outing Hopgood in exchange for his information if he's not clubbed to death within an inch of his life. He might think he'll get clubbed anyway but there's no harm in pressuring the twat.

    I'm also going to keep pressuring Cafarelli, who I know is town at this point. I'm hoping to draw the consigliere out with a counterclaim. He's going to be very angry at my epic level of stupidity. I'm pretty good at playing dumb. Maybe she'll figure it out when I start directing her actions and start acting along with me.

    Galloway and Carruthers are two wild cards at this point. I think by giving Galloway the soma, I've forced their hand a bit if Galloway is scum. Remote.

    I'm also concerned about the longshot that Chapman is the Savage GF and Lichtmann is the mafia GF. Maybe I can convince Cafarelli to investigate Chapman to confirm. That might take both days. If Chapman comes back in the delta category, I'll be pretty sure of the identity of both GF. If Chapman is an executioner, we'll have confirmed the other neutral and go to town. To do that, I'd have to get Cafarelli the soma.

    Therefore:

    Goal Day 6: Lynch Dunn, Draw out consigliere or blackmailer (by asking for second escort who blocked Phelps on night 5), Get Cafarelli to find witch
    Goal Night 7: Sit on my ass and survive... no passing soma so I cannot be witched. Get Hopgood clubbed (if he wasn't already). The witch will want to help the mafia to make up for his mistake in helping me live.
    Goal Day 7: Lynch Witch if found, Otherwise, Lynch Phelps
    Goal Night 8: If both witch and kidnapper dead, pass soma to Cafarelli (provided she's alive). If not hold soma again.
    Goal Day 8: Last shot at finding witch to make my soma any good. Lynch witch or Ackerman. I would get additional soma here that I'd be holding.
    Goal Night 9: Pass the bloody soma if possible. If not, let it die with me.
    Goal Day 9: Lynch Witch or Black.
    Goal Night 10: Well, you know now, etc... and so forth.

    Enjoy Night Chat. Let's see what the mafia does to mess up my plan.

    The paranoid part of my brain suggests that the hosts deliberately schemed the game out with the roles this way. I doubt it but I wouldn't be surprised.

    Good luck all.

  20. ISO #70

    Re: Somebody has to start the dead chat conversation anyway.

    It is indeed entertaining. Especially the part where he thinks that all the plans revolve around him. I expect Hogeboom to die tonight (roleblock + kill). Change of plan right there. And with so many Town PRs outed I can imagine that the cult goes some killing action, too. Nowhere does he account for the cult's actions.
    And passing his soma from night 6 on night 9 won't do any good. Admittedly he can use it to send a message, but that's about it.

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    Re: Somebody has to start the dead chat conversation anyway.

    Aye.

    Hopgood is the Jailor.

    You know that ''extra information I had that I didn't want to reveal'' the day before I died?

    Yeah. After the day I was blackmailed, Hopgood jailed me to have a talk with me. He obviously hadn't revealed his name to me though.
    He's been using a code.

    ;)

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  36. ISO #86

    Re: Somebody has to start the dead chat conversation anyway.

    Parker thinks tooo highly of him self. Why would the Mafia kill the Mayor when the Mayor have no idea who the Mafia is? Much rather kill TPRs then a clueless Mayor.

    This even make more sense when we think about how badly Parker has been playing up till revealing. He was pushing hard to lynch, he did not know simple game mechanics, he pretty much ran the lynch-train on Biggs, and lastly he calls for all TPRs to protect him. Parker is better alive to the Mafia then anything else, and the fact that he does not see this him self just make me want to bash my head into a wall even more.

  37. ISO #87

    Re: Somebody has to start the dead chat conversation anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Monroe View Post
    I wasn't jailed, it was a savage kill

    They probably thought I was consort. Dumb donnelly lol
    Donnelly is Savage?

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Monroe View Post
    I also got witched on my final night, so my last will is going to be off on my last target.
    Interesting, I like that Parker think that the Witch saved him. XD
    Parker is just so freaking full of him self.

    -vote FM Parker

    I wanna know his COM so I can slap him hard after this game.

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  41. ISO #91

    Re: Somebody has to start the dead chat conversation anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Bishop View Post
    You were right about me visiting Mason though. I think that Mason is the third role blocker. He blocked Galletta night 1.
    OoO:
    • 10. Escort / Consort blocks
    • 11. Kidnapping
    • 12. Bus Driving
    • 13. Lookout moves to target / Detective follows target (can see 7-12)
    • 14. Framing (can affect 13)
    • 15. Investigations (consigliere, investigator, sheriff)


    Monroe was bussed night 1, Bus Driver is before Detective.
    So in reality you tracked Monroe that night, so Monroe did you not block Galletta night 1?

    Or did you target Monroe?

  42. ISO #92

    Re: Somebody has to start the dead chat conversation anyway.

    I tracked Mason. My original result was that Mason visited Galletta. A few hours later my night result PM got deleted and replaced with a new one. Now Mason visited Hopgood.
    I was switched by Dunn onto Monroe who blocked Hopgood. The mix up was likely because the switch was forgotten as Mason did also roleblock somebody (Galletta).

  43. ISO #93

    Re: Somebody has to start the dead chat conversation anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Bishop View Post
    I tracked Mason. My original result was that Mason visited Galletta. A few hours later my night result PM got deleted and replaced with a new one. Now Mason visited Hopgood.
    I was switched by Dunn onto Monroe who blocked Hopgood. The mix up was likely because the switch was forgotten as Mason did also roleblock somebody (Galletta).
    Ah. I'm sure the hosts like us for killing you then, that way you can not use the information you should not have gotten. ^^

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    # Player Night 1 Night 2 Night 3 Night 4 Night 5 Night 6
    1 FM Ackerman bussed by #22
    (redirected BMed)
    bussed
    (redirected attacked)
    2 FM Ballard bussed attacked
    3 FM Becket bussed
    attacked by redirect
    4 FM Bekowsky blocked attacked
    5 FM Biggs witched witched
    6 FM Bishop BMed interviewed by #16
    attacked
    7 FM Black blocked by #31
    8 FM Buchwalter blocked by #31 given Soma by #33
    9 FM Cafarelli feedback prevention feedback prevention feedback prevention
    blocked by #31
    feedback prevention
    10 FM Carruthers
    11 FM Chapman blocked by #34
    12 FM Cohen
    13 FM Colmyer blocked by #34 drugged (BMed) bussed by #22
    BMed by redirect
    14 FM Donnelly blocked
    15 FM Dunn bussed interviewed by #16
    16 FM Earle druged (Soma) by #8
    17 FM Fontaine bussed
    interviewed by #16
    18 FM Gage attacked
    19 FM Galletta blocked interviewed by #3 blocked by #34
    20 FM Galloway bussed by #22
    21 FM Green
    22 FM Hogeboom bussed by #22 blocked by 34 bussed by #22 attacked
    23 FM Hopgood blocked by #31
    24 FM Kalou bussed
    (redirected attacked)
    25 FM Kelso blocked by #34
    26 FM Leary
    27 FM Lichtmann bussed
    28 FM Mason bussed
    29 FM McKelty BS item
    30 FM Mendez bussed by #22
    31 FM Monroe bussed bussed by #22
    BMed by redirect
    witched
    attacked
    32 FM Morgan BMed witched bussed
    attacked by redirect
    33 FM Parker bussed
    34 FM Phelps blocked by #31 blocked
    35 FM Rose interviewed by #3 interviewed by #16 bussed by #22
    (redirected BMed)
    36 FM Ryan bussed
    These are all the actions I have notes about.

    • Uncolored = Actions claimed doing the day.
    • Yellow = Learned from interview, [D4 #560].
    • Pink = Actions that are unknown to the majority.

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  47. ISO #97

    Re: Somebody has to start the dead chat conversation anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Buchwalter View Post
    22 FM Hogeboom bussed by #22 blocked by 34 bussed by #22 attacked
    35 FM Rose interviewed by #3 interviewed by #16 bussed by #22
    (redirected BMed)
    These are all the actions I have notes about.

    • Uncolored = Actions claimed doing the day.
    • Yellow = Learned from interview, [D4 #560].
    • Pink = Actions that are unknown to the majority.
    Wait Hogeboom got the blackmail? Damn, why did they kill him then? Then again that may have been the reason they killed him.
    That mean someone new is blackmailed today, wonderful.

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  49. ISO #99

    Re: Somebody has to start the dead chat conversation anyway.

    I still do not understand why Hopgood as the Jailor would want Colmyer to not reveal that he was jailed, it really blows my mind at how stupid that was.

    It could have saved town from some Delta lynches and maybe even give more information to town.

    The only reason I can see that he wanna stay hidden is to be a stealthy late game ninja. I can see the awesomeness it suddenly turning the tide there at the end, but waiting had clearly doomed him.
    All of town seem to think he is Savage, and he has no way of proving him self because Colmyer is dead.

  50. ISO #100

    Re: Somebody has to start the dead chat conversation anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Bishop View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Buchwalter View Post
    Wait Hogeboom got the blackmail? Damn, why did they kill him then? Then again that may have been the reason they killed him.
    That mean someone new is blackmailed today, wonderful.
    Bus Driver is one of the most important Town roles. And Dunn/Phelps will prolly get lynched sooner than later. It's not like the Mafia has all the time in the world to kill him before he has the chance to screw them.
    Yeah him being a Bus Driver does make him an even better target.

    Wait come to think of it, it also frames Dunn as Mafia. So two with one stone townies with one kill.

 

 

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