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    Re: crier

    crier, is tough to use, so far ive encountered 3 uses

    1) prove yourself
    2) make requests to the town for who to target, ie doc/bg on 4, sheriff on the list, i suggest you check 15, hes been quiet all game
    3) say obvious info, and spell it out for the town, serial killer and arson are dead, its impossible for 9 to be a neutral killer, he must be lieing, or that guy who claimed citizen on trial was lieing to you, citizen is excluded from town random, any random, and town core, there can not be a citizen, he is obv scum.

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    Re: crier

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleMan View Post
    Crier is one of those roles that's very powerful with a smart person and practically useless with a dumb person. Like Citizen.
    Making a post without actually adding anything to thread. Thanks for the bump

    Quote Originally Posted by kyle1234513 View Post
    crier, is tough to use, so far ive encountered 3 uses

    1) prove yourself
    2) make requests to the town for who to target, ie doc/bg on 4, sheriff on the list, i suggest you check 15, hes been quiet all game
    3) say obvious info, and spell it out for the town, serial killer and arson are dead, its impossible for 9 to be a neutral killer, he must be lieing, or that guy who claimed citizen on trial was lieing to you, citizen is excluded from town random, any random, and town core, there can not be a citizen, he is obv scum.
    1) Prove yourself - saying "GUYS IM 7 IM CRIER DOC ON ME TONIGHT!!!" is just asking to get buttraped by MM and makes the wifom ez for mafia.
    2) u can do this during the day. if you have actually played a game you'd see that they just spam chat with yoloswag. No one is going to listen to a useless ass role.
    3) again this can be said during day. useless role. Only use is being able to confirm yourself. Basically another town role that can confirm themself.

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    Re: crier

    I remember you, Eskimo. I can see you're still a pain in the ass.

    Crier is useful IF the person playing it knows how to play it. He goes over facts that was gathered during the day. The person playing the crier (IMO) should make a mental or physical note on who claimed what and if their stories matched up.

    Spoiler : FM History :
    KF S-FM (X) : Citizen (Lost, last to be lynched) | WD S-FM (XI) : Jailor : Lost | WFC SF-M (77) : Doctor : Won | SR SF-M (79) : Citizen : Killed N1 | Trust S-FM (80) : Exec. Lynched D1 | C S-FM (82) : Colonist/Armorsmith : Won | HotS S-FM (84) : Framer/Mafioso : Lost | SWT S-FM (85) : Citizen : Won | PC S-FM (86) : Manipulator : Won | DK2 S-FM (87) : Escort : Lost | FotNS (89) : Escort : Won | BCOWYL S-FM (91) : In Progress |

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    Re: crier

    Quote Originally Posted by Burnt Eskimo View Post
    Making a post without actually adding anything to thread. Thanks for the bump



    1) Prove yourself - saying "GUYS IM 7 IM CRIER DOC ON ME TONIGHT!!!" is just asking to get buttraped by MM and makes the wifom ez for mafia.
    2) u can do this during the day. if you have actually played a game you'd see that they just spam chat with yoloswag. No one is going to listen to a useless ass role.
    3) again this can be said during day. useless role. Only use is being able to confirm yourself. Basically another town role that can confirm themself.

    "can be said during day"

    Clearly you haven't get the idea of crier.

    For a better understanding, think about Advertisement and Mass Media for a moment.

    What makes them so powerful?

    Because they are the Sole Voice!!!!

    And that is the greatest strength of crier.

    Whatever he is saying, everyone HAVE to listen and NO one can argue it back.

    By repeating annoying FACTs (or Faked Facts) Crier is able to manipulate audience by doing that.

    A good crier should be like those talk show host.

    Be clear, be Convincing and be persuasive.

    Give me a thumb up if you agree.
    When we talked about pubs, we are talking about us.
    When they talked about pubs, they exclude themselves.
    They say only bad players want to modify citizens, and they do not satisfy bad players.
    Are we bad players? We include bad players, but that is just a part of us.
    ---They put veteran, mayor, allowed jester to visit for nothing, and they regretted and say those things are brainless.

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    Re: crier

    Quote Originally Posted by Sinclair View Post
    I remember you, Eskimo. I can see you're still a pain in the ass.

    Crier is useful IF the person playing it knows how to play it. He goes over facts that was gathered during the day. The person playing the crier (IMO) should make a mental or physical note on who claimed what and if their stories matched up.
    Unsure of who you are. From your post you seem like the typical pay2play autist. Every role should be taking mental notes (not physical, unless you have below 100 iq) on that shit. And every role can get a lot more information because they actually have useful abilities. Besides citizen
    Quote Originally Posted by louiswill View Post
    "can be said during day"

    Clearly you haven't get the idea of crier.

    For a better understanding, think about Advertisement and Mass Media for a moment.

    What makes them so powerful?

    Because they are the Sole Voice!!!!

    And that is the greatest strength of crier.

    Whatever he is saying, everyone HAVE to listen and NO one can argue it back.

    By repeating annoying FACTs (or Faked Facts) Crier is able to manipulate audience by doing that.

    A good crier should be like those talk show host.

    Be clear, be Convincing and be persuasive.

    Give me a thumb up if you agree.
    I use adblock and tivo. I havent viewed an ad in almost 5 months. Crier wlil be the same, any information that he has, I should have the same, and more. It's only use is as a confirmed town role and for trolls to spam.

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    Re: crier

    I've found the crier role to be great. May be my favorite role so far.

    The fact that most players are unintelligent doesn't mean the role is bad; being able to expose mafia/scum anonymously is simply amazing.
    You can analyze the data and pretty much solve the game without fearing that mafia will kill you that night.

    I'm going to prefer that role once I'm able to use that command.

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    Re: crier

    Quote Originally Posted by Burnt Eskimo View Post
    Making a post without actually adding anything to thread. Thanks for the bump



    1) Prove yourself - saying "GUYS IM 7 IM CRIER DOC ON ME TONIGHT!!!" is just asking to get buttraped by MM and makes the wifom ez for mafia.
    2) u can do this during the day. if you have actually played a game you'd see that they just spam chat with yoloswag. No one is going to listen to a useless ass role.
    3) again this can be said during day. useless role. Only use is being able to confirm yourself. Basically another town role that can confirm themself.
    1. if you do this while there's a MM in the game... your a bad Crier
    2. at day everyone doesn't know what others are... unless you have proven your self earlier it can be hard to rally the Town... at night Crier is a CONFIRMED TOWN but also anonymous...
    3. again everyone hearing the Crier at night knows he is Town... i have seen games been won by bad guys cause they made Town think that a role was possible when it wasn't


    so again... if the Crier is a good player... and the rest of Town know what they are doing (this is unlikely)... they have an anonymous CONFIRMED TOWN that the Town know speak for their benefit and not he's own...

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    Re: crier

    Crier is boring. Citizen fake claiming power roles and night actions and get real scum lynched with it is the best part of the whole map. Crier is for plebs who like to qq at night.
    Spoiler : fm history :
    FM 6: Commoner/Legionare(roman)/Legionare(Sin) FM8: Stan Investigator FM9:Yakov German(Sapper) FM10: Fm Rumpel Vigilante FM11: Renekton: Serial Killer FM12: Sandor: citizen = scum FM13: Wicket : Devourer FM14: Torynn: Andrew Ryan (GF)

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    Re: crier

    Quote Originally Posted by Raptorblaze View Post
    I'm gonna ask DR to make a crier list (like our stump list) and put you on it permanently
    Isn't that what started WWII?

    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Blue Masquerader View Post
    Hey moron. shut the fuck up or I will shut you up, k? I'm not the person your going to insult and live happily ever after. K? Understand that,

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    Re: crier

    Quote Originally Posted by CmG View Post
    Crier is boring. Citizen fake claiming power roles and night actions and get real scum lynched with it is the best part of the whole map. Crier is for plebs who like to qq at night.
    Honestly if you're using Crier to qq then you're doing it wrong

    I was in a game where the Crier was useful at first but then started to bitch more and more as the game progressed

    it was interesting to say the least


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    Re: crier

    Quote Originally Posted by CmG View Post
    Crier is boring. Citizen fake claiming power roles and night actions and get real scum lynched with it is the best part of the whole map. Crier is for plebs who like to qq at night.
    First post that actually supported me in an educated way. You are completely right ofc. Also I'm not suprised it's CmG, he is one of the smarter people on this forum.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raptorblaze View Post
    I'm gonna ask DR to make a crier list (like our stump list) and put you on it permanently
    reported to blizzard

    Quote Originally Posted by Lazers View Post
    Honestly if you're using Crier to qq then you're doing it wrong

    I was in a game where the Crier was useful at first but then started to bitch more and more as the game progressed

    it was interesting to say the least
    this happens every game. they try to be helpful, and then realize no one gives a fuck and then they bitch/spam.

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    Re: crier

    Quote Originally Posted by Burnt Eskimo View Post
    Unsure of who you are. From your post you seem like the typical pay2play autist. Every role should be taking mental notes (not physical, unless you have below 100 iq) on that shit. And every role can get a lot more information because they actually have useful abilities. Besides citizen

    I use adblock and tivo. I havent viewed an ad in almost 5 months. Crier wlil be the same, any information that he has, I should have the same, and more. It's only use is as a confirmed town role and for trolls to spam.
    if you use adblock and tivo, then you should recongize that Crier is the power of Ads. Properly use if good, though generally terrible in troll's hand.

    If you are seeking a certainty in mafia, you have to setup up a list with almost not many random roles.

    Since such setup is boring and stupid, you should try to find more interesting thing from what people are typing rather than

    "I am town, I am teal"
    When we talked about pubs, we are talking about us.
    When they talked about pubs, they exclude themselves.
    They say only bad players want to modify citizens, and they do not satisfy bad players.
    Are we bad players? We include bad players, but that is just a part of us.
    ---They put veteran, mayor, allowed jester to visit for nothing, and they regretted and say those things are brainless.

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    Re: crier

    Quote Originally Posted by louiswill View Post
    if you use adblock and tivo, then you should recongize that Crier is the power of Ads. Properly use if good, though generally terrible in troll's hand.

    If you are seeking a certainty in mafia, you have to setup up a list with almost not many random roles.

    Since such setup is boring and stupid, you should try to find more interesting thing from what people are typing rather than

    "I am town, I am teal"
    You must not know me. I have over 1000+ games played. Probably closer to 2 or 3k. Also you must not know what adblock or tivo in your 3rd world country. Ads do not bother me at all, I record programs and skip ads for free, and I just dont view them online. Also for free
    Last edited by Burnt Eskimo; April 25th, 2013 at 05:07 PM. Reason: dumbass forum quoted prievous posts

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    Re: crier

    Quote Originally Posted by Burnt Eskimo View Post
    You must not know me. I have over 1000+ games played. Probably closer to 2 or 3k. Also you must not know what adblock or tivo in your 3rd world country. Ads do not bother me at all, I record programs and skip ads for free, and I just dont view them online. Also for free
    why would you avoid ads if it doesn't bother you? lol. 1000+ game played is nothing in front of me. if you played 3k, I would say fine. As a person living in the third world country, I know commercial ads can be really harmful.

    Why would you use adblock at first place?
    When we talked about pubs, we are talking about us.
    When they talked about pubs, they exclude themselves.
    They say only bad players want to modify citizens, and they do not satisfy bad players.
    Are we bad players? We include bad players, but that is just a part of us.
    ---They put veteran, mayor, allowed jester to visit for nothing, and they regretted and say those things are brainless.

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    Re: crier

    Quote Originally Posted by louiswill View Post
    why would you avoid ads if it doesn't bother you? lol. 1000+ game played is nothing in front of me. if you played 3k, I would say fine. As a person living in the third world country, I know commercial ads can be really harmful.

    Why would you use adblock at first place?
    claims 3k games and i've never seen you? right.

 

 

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