mafia a game of retards and trolls

[fatchicks]

i dont know but every game is bullshit retards cant tell

i was a lookout and town thought i was a arson or lookout

btw SK was lynched the day before and in a normal game theres 1 killing and benign and 2 randoms but they excludes killing
and get ignorant with me on trial so retarded how can i play a game with a bunch of retards that cant tell the difference between "apple or an orange" type of thing.

[cookies4you]

"a game of retards and trolls"

You're not that far off, actually.

[kyle1234513]

be greatful you even got on, last night 1 person consistantly joined a room, invited 10+ afk players, and left, kept rejoining and reinviting, waiting for people to just rage quit the lobby.

it was just such an awful night, i just logged off.

[Deantwo]

be greatful you even got on, last night 1 person consistantly joined a room, invited 10+ afk players, and left, kept rejoining and reinviting, waiting for people to just rage quit the lobby.

it was just such an awful night, i just logged off.

can't you report that kinda person to Bliz?
most likely just someone who got banned from Mafia and is mad... ^^;

[Ash]

actually it's not retardation, it's autism

[Mugy]

You do realise arsonist is now paired with lookout.

[Cryptonic]

You do realise arsonist is now paired with lookout.

x.x That still doesn't change anything lol

[Voss]

The more people play, the better everyone gets. Right now more noobies are going to join because mafias popularity is going to jump up

[suicidaln00b]

lol

there are people who are still surprised that this game is full of shitwits

wow haha

i wonder who the bigger weetard is here

ha ha ha

[Voss]

i wouldn't say full, really. i'd say it ranges from 1-4 people per game.

[Indy]

There is many who purposefully try to sabotage the game. No wonder this game is slowly going to fade away like the Roman Empire....

[Orpz]

this is the cutest fanfic i've ever read

[louiswill]

There is many who purposefully try to sabotage the game. No wonder this game is slowly going to fade away like the Roman Empire....

Barbarian siege?

They will all be converted into ChXXXtianity(censored)!! Some day! you know.

[SayGen]

What we need is for clan Crleon to actually get priviate games hook up on a constant basis, and we can play a decent game every now and then.

[Landstander]

What we need is for clan Crleon to actually get priviate games hook up on a constant basis, and we can play a decent game every now and then.

Well we do weekly, my comp was in the shop for over 10 days, so it should begin happening again.

[42shadow42]

Well we do weekly, my comp was in the shop for over 10 days, so it should begin happening again.

Wait what? When do i get an invite?

[louiswill]

Join da Crleon clan...they sometimes host good games.

what I really means is that, even bad setup in standard would be a good game with good players.

[Landstander]

We do Ranked games, (double points) Scheduling will begin once I get Branch-Off Corleone clan (Same tag) off the ground by end of the week

[TheComedian]

be greatful you even got on, last night 1 person consistantly joined a room, invited 10+ afk players, and left, kept rejoining and reinviting, waiting for people to just rage quit the lobby.

it was just such an awful night, i just logged off.

My best weapon against that is saying I'm going AFK, and then go youtube or whatever, and come back later.

Let them trolls know you are AFK, and don't care. Only time they are wasting is their own.

[Mefia]

so where do we go to talk about the mafia rules? ThePackage was blatently inviting penders and admitted it, got the screenshots and everything to prove it so whats the deal? Why would they let a blatent troll go unpunished for something everyone hates?

[Cryptonic]

so where do we go to talk about the mafia rules? ThePackage was blatently inviting penders and admitted it, got the screenshots and everything to prove it so whats the deal? Why would they let a blatent troll go unpunished for something everyone hates?

Lobby is a Blizzard side issue. Even banning someone from Mafia can't prevent someone from inviting penders.
You should take it up with Blizzard.

[Dagaen]

Well, sure newbies\morons\trolls happen, but other than that Mafia is quite allright. I don't know if it's just me but games on EU server are usually much better than on NA.

[Dark]

im on most nights, add me as a friend if you want a non troll to play with

droses1 @gmail.com

[Mefia]

Lobby is a Blizzard side issue. Even banning someone from Mafia can't prevent someone from inviting penders.
You should take it up with Blizzard.

Its not a lobby issue its a mafia issue. Its the only game where it happens. People do it because it affects the people and hence the game itself. And People like necro will join a game just to do it, and join a game knowing he is banned ect and going to get kicked, but not everyone is weird like that, if people were punished the # of people doing it would go down.

Blizzard doesn't care about its players, only money, everyone knows this. Saying to take it up with blizzard is like saying put your head in the sand.

The fact that making it a rule, would affect how many people do it, logically makes it a mafia problem.

[killforfood2]

Agree with mefia here... blizzard isnt going to do anything about it but he brought up one important person that does this type of thing. Some certain someone that is active in these forums continuously trolls pubs... Not to mention the multiple other trolls that exist that are well known... wasting my breath but some action can be taken. Stop being afraid of "mod role op"

[Damus_Graves]

Its not a lobby issue its a mafia issue. Its the only game where it happens. People do it because it affects the people and hence the game itself. And People like necro will join a game just to do it, and join a game knowing he is banned ect and going to get kicked, but not everyone is weird like that, if people were punished the # of people doing it would go down.

Blizzard doesn't care about its players, only money, everyone knows this. Saying to take it up with blizzard is like saying put your head in the sand.

The fact that making it a rule, would affect how many people do it, logically makes it a mafia problem.

No.
Blizzard makes the lobbies.
Penders are invited in a few other games that are not mafia.
Trying to pin a clearly Blizzard issue on the map of Mafia isn't logical, its just utterly ridiculous and frankly retarded.

[Cryptonic]

Its not a lobby issue its a mafia issue. Its the only game where it happens. People do it because it affects the people and hence the game itself. And People like necro will join a game just to do it, and join a game knowing he is banned ect and going to get kicked, but not everyone is weird like that, if people were punished the # of people doing it would go down.

Blizzard doesn't care about its players, only money, everyone knows this. Saying to take it up with blizzard is like saying put your head in the sand.

The fact that making it a rule, would affect how many people do it, logically makes it a mafia problem.

No, it's a Blizzard problem.
Most of the people doing it are already on our Ban List. What do you suggest we do? Nothing more can be done on our side.

[Mefia]

No.
Blizzard makes the lobbies.
Penders are invited in a few other games that are not mafia.
Trying to pin a clearly Blizzard issue on the map of Mafia isn't logical, its just utterly ridiculous and frankly retarded.

It doesn't matter who makes the lobbies, microsoft makes skype does that mean its their job to ban people for skyping/cheating? Twitch.tv's job to ban for people streaming the entire game and posting links in the lobby to it? That just sounds "retarded" doesn't it?

As for other games getting penders, maybe, but id bet the only reason they get them is because of trolls from mafia migrating over to those games. First place i ever saw this was mafia, and it happens somewhat regularly. But then i havn't seen necro around for a little while either.

my suggestion is to let people with some form of proof/information/screenshots provide a report, and a simple/small infraction be given. Make it small so that if the report isn't concrete u can still punish anyway, so that you have the message floating around that it is a punishable offence, even if it is small. If people at least know its a rule that gets punished in some form or another, then that will dramatically cut down on it. As it stands, people know nothing happens, so they actively flaunt doing it, and actively tell others how to do it as well.

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...1-S2-1-4092756

case in point, no rule, so why would he care? If he knew there was a rule, your saying u know for a fact he would still be acting like that? And that the rule would have no effect on him?

Sure he could do it discreetly, but thats still an improvement, less people will know how to do it. He at one point was explaining to people how to do it. Then also he wouldn't get as much enjoyment out of it because he couldn't claim credit for it. Also the people who get invited could screenshot him, so even then there's still a risk of getting caught (if there was a rule). And these reports also help give backgrounds on people, to help identify trolls, this adds substance to other reports. For example that guy was watchlisted not that long ago for some other things, the point being information helps in lots of ways.

But we all know blizzard won't do anything, the question is why wouldn't you when u have a system in place that can? I seriously doubt this would add much workload, the whole idea is to just get it out there that there's a rule for it. Technically their already is if u filed it under griefing or something similar, just the penality for it would be specific to it.

So yah i think that could help

[Cryptonic]

I think you're missing the point that it's just your word against his. We can not just punish someone because someone said they're inviting penders.

1. There is no way of knowing who is actually inviting.
2. There is no replay, so everything is just screenshots (which can easily be photoshopped).

Obviously Skyping isn't Microsofts problem, because it affects THE GAME. the actual GAME. The Lobby is not the game of Mafia. The setup screen is not the game of Mafia. Things are not punishable there because the rules were created to ensure a fair and fun GAME. We have no control over the lobby, and rules can't be reasonably enforced there.

Creating exta rules won't change anything. As I said before, most people doing it are already banned. Threatening them with ingame consequences won't do anything because they can't get into the game anyways..

If you care this much about it, then why don't you start/sign a petition with Blizzard for them to change the lobby.

I think this is the correct link: https://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/to...0002303?page=3


I don't think you understand that punishing people for this will just cause them to do it more out of spite.

[Mefia]

no i wasn't missing the point because thats the first time anyone has made one.... its always been just "no this no that" "Nothing more can be done", with no reason or explanation, then deflecting to blizzard.

Screenshots can be photoshopped, but photoshopping can also be detected in most cases. Again it really doesn't matter, because like i said make the punishment "light" so it doesn't even matter if your wrong sometimes. The point is so that people know there's a rule, people just need to know your not supposed to do it, its that simple. You really think more people are going to do it? Get real, if that was true it would be true for all your rules. The real problem is the lack of them, which allowed necro to cause "hundreds" of leave trains....but that didn't affect any of our mafia games of course...

And why can't you just punish people? Ive seen mods punish people because they "thought" someone was going to gamethrow on a lynch and kicked/took half their points from them during the vote process only, to find out they voted differently, and didn't actually gamethrow. So really how many people are actually going to photoshop and risk getting caught, all for a light penalty?

And guess what, griefing/trolling/penders affect the actual GAME too.... the lobby is the actual game too technically...and as i already pointed out the affects of what happen in the lobby, they 'do' carry over into the mafia game, and i gave examples, but im not going to list them again because its obvious u guys really don't care either way. You've simply made up your mind regardless.

If most people doing it were already banned then why do i have screenshots from someone doing it days ago that isn't, and having it happen enough so, that i would come here to talk about it....

And even with necro, the only reason he joined the game was because he was still on the watchlist, he wasn't banned. And then he would do all the pausing crap causing leave trains, and im sure u think that has no effect on the game either....

If creating rules didn't change anything....why have any at all? because it does work thats why.

If people do it more, they get reported more and with more serious outcomes. Will some people do it more out of spite, maybe? But how many people have done it because they know u guys don't care? How much more quickly do u think we would have been rid of necro if we had rules back then? All that frustration could have been avoided...

You list one reason not to do it, ive listed countless reasons to do it.

1.) people who 'follow' rules will stop
2.) Less people learn how to do it (telling people how could be part of the rule/not to)
3.) people who do it loose a bit of the fun because they can't claim they are doing it anymore (so that reduces it)
4.) people who do it, can actually be reported lol...again most people who do it actually do play mafia...where is necro? havn't seen him for a while because he is actually banned now right? Hence he doesn't play, or at least i havn't seen him for at least a month.
5.) for anyone who does do it out of spite, thats going to increase there chances of getting caught

oh and im also suggesting u add rules for game pauses at the 'very start' of the game in the same light as im discussing inviting penders, and u even have replays for that...speaking of which i bet there's some other ways to catch people without screenshots but again it doesn't have to be that big of a deal if u just make the penalty light.

There's just alot of passive ways this reduces all that trouble, i really see no legit downside to it, at least from the reasons provided so far against it.

I mean hell there's been times mods have been invited in as pending, that surely wouldn't have been happening. There were no rules and people were doing it non stop, i just do not see the downside sorry

[creedkingsx]

And why can't you just punish people? Ive seen mods punish people because they "thought" someone was going to gamethrow on a lynch and kicked/took half their points from them during the vote process only, to find out they voted differently, and didn't actually gamethrow. So really how many people are actually going to photoshop and risk getting caught, all for a light penalty?

Report the mod. They should never act like this and it will result in the loss of their abilities.

[Anguss]

Well since I never troll in a game of mafia, I must be one of the retards

[ArchKomodo]

crleon and gouda seem to have some good people who actually just want to play mafia.

I could deal with the skypers, game-throwers, AFKers, noobs, pause-trolls, pender-trolls, lag-trolls, and just-plain-offensive-trolls, if it weren't for the fact that most games take 2-5 minutes to load up (not including lobby time), and often drop 1-2 people from the get go. Then people leave when they get a role they don't like. Then leave trains occur, and if u wanna play a game that starts with the proper amount of people you have to go wait in the lobby again for a game that MIGHT start.

Sorry, that's my gripe on mafia, right there. It says a lot about how much I love mafia, though, if I'm willing to deal with 1 in every 5 attempts at a game being satisfactory, heh.

[Poriomania]

Have you considered Forum Mafia or Epicmafia? Forum Mafia is much more harder but more rewarding and satisfactory. Epicmafia is similar to SC2Mafia (I haven't tried it though) but text-based.

[Raptorblaze]

This thread got necroed by land and no one closed it ffs creed y u no!? :P