Day 7 discussion

[FM Ferengi]

Day 7 has started, you can now resume your discussion. There are quite a number of stunning revelations now, right?

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

Haha, so there never was an Escort.

I have to say; although the CP9 was imba from the start since they found out the Pirate Captain since the very beginning, they played this like real pros.

Props to them.

Town made a lot of bad decisions.

So, Dracule Mihawk, Black Leg Sanji, Don Krieg and Crocodile are confirmed scum. Maybe that's even the whole CP9 team there.


I'm surprised we didn't hear more from Zoro. He's been awfully quiet.

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

And the fact that all three of those dead PRs were lurker-ishs didn't really help at all!

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

If I may ask, who decided to shoot me with the gun?

[FM Whitebeard]

It's a little silly that the rebels found 2 scum for the town early, yet the town didn't do anything with that information after some easily faked PR claims.

[FM Whitebeard]

To be fair, I thought you were scum as well because you were knee-deep in the feedback claim mess that didn't add up.

It's still possible that Sanji is a consort, no? Even though his voting behaviour was rather anti-pirate.

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

Yeah. I guess it was because of my activity; I was a prime target. It all started with Big Mom and the EM charges on the first day.
By the way, Yesterday, I was not vented. But I was the day before; which confirms Crocodile as CP9; most likely to be the Vent. But Bonney is a bit... dense. And so is the rest of the town, actually.

Funny how I called out Big Mom to be vented and I also called out Kuma to be town.
The fact that CP9 was so strong gimped us hard; but Town sure didn't help themselves.

And for Sanji, It is not. Unless Straw Hat Luffy AND Nami are lying about the heal.
There is a missing Pirate kill.

[FM Donquixote Doflamingo]

And the fact that all three of those dead PRs were lurker-ishs didn't really help at all!

I failed thinking that Kuma was lying. He acted extremely scummy while dracule actually acted like a coroner. Sadly I gave Dracule a gun before he started acting scummy so possibly him. Bonny also has a gun.

Bonny not getting my obvious hints was so bad....Apparently Dracule could figure it out, but not bonney. Lol gg

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

So you gave a gun to Bonney last night?
Let's hope the Witch doesn't decide to control her tonight.
This could turn the tides around, actually.

Who else did you give guns/armors to, out of curiosity?

(And yes, I completely agree that Bonney can't take hints at all. I simply can't believe hse still thinks Croc is legit and that he was vented. I mean what the hell?)

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

Well, that was an unexpected lynch. No idea it would happen so fast.
We can only pray it was the Witch or Vent now.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

Well, that was an unexpected lynch. No idea it would happen so fast.
We can only pray it was the Witch or Vent now.

It was indeed. The marines were foolish and didn't unvote me in time. My other allies also failed to do this, but I had hoped the marines would be the trend-setters.

To clarify, I had a gun, but fragos said I could not use it and my action at the same time (load of bull if you ask me), so I decided to force bonney to use hers on you instead of doing it myself.

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

Aw sheesh, well played, so Bonney no longer has the gun.
Your playstyle totally reminded me of Michigan J Frog from the last FM!

I have to say though. Fuck you guys for gimping me so bad!
Who decided to solve my code on that day?

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

And how did you figure out that she had a gun/that we had a Blacksmith?

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

Why is the graveyard chat so...dead?

I read every post in all day discussion threads and I've only been dead for less than an hour. There should be way more posts than this. I'm beginning to feel like I'm the only one who cares about this game.

TALK TO ME.

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

Why is the graveyard chat so...dead?

I read every post in all day discussion threads and I've only been dead for less than an hour. There should be way more posts than this. I'm beginning to feel like I'm the only one who cares about this game.

TALK TO ME.

Yeah no kidding.
There wasn't even a single post on Day 4.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

YAY. SOMEONE IS HERE.

Aw sheesh, well played, so Bonney no longer has the gun.
Your playstyle totally reminded me of Michigan J Frog from the last FM!

I have to say though. Fuck you guys for gimping me so bad!
Who decided to solve my code on that day?

Sorry. You were a bit of a threat, so we had to take you out. :P

I was the one who solved your code. Not bad, eh?

Haha I'm glad I reminded you of Frog. I definitely took inspiration from her.

And how did you figure out that she had a gun/that we had a Blacksmith?

She was hinting at it pretty hard, and I had already received one, so I knew how to interpret the hints. I decided it was better to use hers because otherwise she would have killed me at night and town wouldn't have had to use a lynch on me. Plus I got to coordinate scum during the day. Though I confess, I thought I would at least have more time to do it, even if I didn't survive.

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

YAY. SOMEONE IS HERE.



Sorry. You were a bit of a threat, so we had to take you out. :P

I was the one who solved your code. Not bad, eh?

Haha I'm glad I reminded you of Frog. I definitely took inspiration from her.



She was hinting at it pretty hard, and I had already received one, so I knew how to interpret the hints. I decided it was better to use hers because otherwise she would have killed me at night and town wouldn't have had to use a lynch on me. Plus I got to coordinate scum during the day. Though I confess, I thought I would at least have more time to do it, even if I didn't survive.

Very well done indeed!
I'm still pretty mad about that code.
I wasn't lying when I said the site wasn't working from where I was and I was really in a hurry; so I had to make a fast one on the spot. Darnit.

And me, a threat? I was just a harmless Citizen. ;)

Was I spot on with the above list for the CP9?

(Still bitter than they won't acknowledge Crocodile as the Vent. GAH.)

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

Unless I'm really missing something, Don Krieg has made it really obvious that he's CP9.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

All 4 of the players you listed are scum, but one of them is not cp9.

You were a threat because you were one of the smartest town players alive. If the pirates kill Ace tonight, that'll be the last of them. Then we should see Bonney die, not because she's been playing particularly well, but because she's confirmed and trusted, so without her leading, the town will not be able to trust anyone. At least, that's our plan. We'll see how it pans out.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

Very well done indeed!
I'm still pretty mad about that code.
I wasn't lying when I said the site wasn't working from where I was and I was really in a hurry; so I had to make a fast one on the spot. Darnit.

And me, a threat? I was just a harmless Citizen. ;)

Was I spot on with the above list for the CP9?

(Still bitter than they won't acknowledge Crocodile as the Vent. GAH.)

If it makes you feel any better, we cracked bonney's code on day 2, but decided not to vent her because it would be easy to discover that she was vented and we didn't want to reveal that we could crack codes so early in the game.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

Unless I'm really missing something, Don Krieg has made it really obvious that he's CP9.

Do tell.

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

Interesting.
So Don Krieg is a pirate.

Considering you guys worked with Black Leg Sanji (Who is most likely to be the DD) and that Crocodile is your Ventriloquist (Or, he was the one you guys agreed would do the Vented claim. But I don't think so.)
(Or, Sanji is a Consort. Duh.)
It was a very good decision not to vent me for another day. I was quite shocked when I realized I wasn't (And that I had gotten the Witched feedback, too!) but I soon realized all the confusion it would cause.

Did you guys have Big Mom vented since the very beginning? Was I right about that?

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

Interesting.
So Don Krieg is a pirate.

Considering you guys worked with Black Leg Sanji (Who is most likely to be the DD) and that Crocodile is your Ventriloquist (Or, he was the one you guys agreed would do the Vented claim. But I don't think so.)
(Or, Sanji is a Consort. Duh.)
It was a very good decision not to vent me for another day. I was quite shocked when I realized I wasn't (And that I had gotten the Witched feedback, too!) but I soon realized all the confusion it would cause.

Did you guys have Big Mom vented since the very beginning? Was I right about that?

Yes. We had her from the first night we could act until the moment she died. The real Big Mom only got to post on day 1. I find it amusing to see what you think is going on while I know the truth.

I guess that's the fun of hosting. I'll have to try it some time.

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

Oh and I'm an idiot, there cannot be a Consort. Derpmoment. There was a cleaning.

Do tell.

It's a bunch of stuff.

- At the beginning of Day 6, when I said Bonney might just be the one that was vented (When she wouldn't believe I wasn't and was accusing me to still be), Don quickly jumped on the occasion to try and convince us that she may just be Vented.
- He was pushing pretty hard to lynch Jimbei (The so-called Janitor. Is that even legit, or was he vented? He is who I believe to be vented on D6. I did call him out for it; And we didn't get anything from him today)
- This post.

Thank you, Bonney is being unrational. I can't comprehend why you want me lynched this much with all the evidence pointing to me being town..

Right after Ace said ''Our Escort blocked Don N1 while all CP9 actions went through''
He couldn't have been blocked since I was drugged on the first day. Thus he was in cahoots with you guys ;)
- This post.

I was reading because I voted after I woke up and went to school, when I came back the day ended already so I went through to see who could be scum.. I would be an useless citizen if I did nothing at all.

Trying to push that he is a ''Citizen'' too much. That's just me though.
- Just read posts 276 - 278.
He was pretty convinced I was Ventriloed. Like seriously. Then all he said was ''Oops, I missed that post!'' and changed his vote. Come on!
- His random ass code. We said many times to take words somewhat related to your character. To me at this point, that was suspicious. You should be taking those codes seriously.

- For Day 7, I thought it was funny how he was one of the first to jump on you for the lynch, right behind Marco. This was too easy; we all knew you were going to be the prime target for today. He was pretty quick to jump off the train to get on Gecko (?) just to vote again right after.

Or you know. Maybe I'm just paranoiac and he's just a Pirate. That's the shitty thing about it, with what you told me, that 1 of the people on my list is not CP9, I'm just mindfucked. I don't see who it could be but Don right now. But thaaaat CP9 vibe. And- Meh. You get my point.

- That's fucking CmG I'm sure. Fuck off CmG. ;w;

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

Yes. We had her from the first night we could act until the moment she died. The real Big Mom only got to post on day 1. I find it amusing to see what you think is going on while I know the truth.

I guess that's the fun of hosting. I'll have to try it some time.

It really is! It has to be so much fun observing the night chats.

I actually never rolled a faction role in FMs so far. I have never had a night chat!
The only time I got close to (Since my COM was already revealed anyway!) was in Blazer's Experiment;
I was one of the two limiters and I died N1. Derp.

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

You have no idea how bummed out I was when I rerolled Citizen after starting as Journalist.
Although I really do like playing Citizen; I wanted a PR in this setup.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

It really is! It has to be so much fun observing the night chats.

I actually never rolled a faction role in FMs so far. I have never had a night chat!
The only time I got close to (Since my COM was already revealed anyway!) was in Blazer's Experiment;
I was one of the two limiters and I died N1. Derp.

I enjoy having a night chat. I think town is generally favored to win, and I love beating the odds. The more stacked against me it is, the more determined I am to win. I love challenges. That's why I was really glad I re-rolled witch. Most people believed this town was certain to win because of their huge numerical advantage. But we managed to make it this far. We almost had it in the bag, too. We can still win, but it is not assured, as it could have been. But no matter what happens now, we at least put up a fight.

I find it funny that for some reason I seem to survive longer when I'm scum... Then again, I haven't been town very many times.

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

I enjoy having a night chat. I think town is generally favored to win, and I love beating the odds. The more stacked against me it is, the more determined I am to win. I love challenges. That's why I was really glad I re-rolled witch. Most people believed this town was certain to win because of their huge numerical advantage. But we managed to make it this far. We almost had it in the bag, too. We can still win, but it is not assured, as it could have been. But no matter what happens now, we at least put up a fight.

I find it funny that for some reason I seem to survive longer when I'm scum... Then again, I haven't been town very many times.

The fact that you guys found the Pirate Captain on the fight night proooobably contributed to your success.

And by the way, to this day, I still don't understand the Rebel's move to just... out themselves like that. What in the world was that? It knew they would both get killed that day; to avoid the recruitment of more people.

I'll be back in a few hours! I want to know what you think of what I said 'bout Don. ;)

(Now that the game is over... May I know your COM? You know mine!)

And, unless the night actions are seriously fucked up, you guys should still have this in the bag. Nami/Marco/Luffy(?, If he is indeed the Doctor, which is most probable now since Nami confirmed she was saved) though we didn't hear about drugging... Gah!

Also, was I really witched on that day or was I drugged? ;)
I love how you guys played this out. This caused the biggest confusion ever. Who was Vented after that day anyway? Jimbei?

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

The fact that you guys found the Pirate Captain on the fight night proooobably contributed to your success.

And by the way, to this day, I still don't understand the Rebel's move to just... out themselves like that. What in the world was that? It knew they would both get killed that day; to avoid the recruitment of more people.

I'll be back in a few hours! I want to know what you think of what I said 'bout Don. ;)

(Now that the game is over... May I know your COM? You know mine!)

And, unless the night actions are seriously fucked up, you guys should still have this in the bag. Nami/Marco/Luffy(?, If he is indeed the Doctor, which is most probable now since Nami confirmed she was saved) though we didn't hear about drugging... Gah!

Also, was I really witched on that day or was I drugged? ;)
I love how you guys played this out. This caused the biggest confusion ever. Who was Vented after that day anyway? Jimbei?

I can answer some, but not all of your questions. Well, that's not exactly true. I can answer all your questions, but I enjoy leaving you in the dark.

1. The rebels- Really didn't understand this myself. That's why I didn't believe it at first. But after they confirmed each other... We made the obvious choice and killed them. I thought at least one of them would be a recruit, we were only trying to prevent them from reaching 5 members and obtaining better night abilities. When they were both the original rebels, it was a very pleasant surprise.

2. Yeah, finding the Pirate Captain night one was instrumental. I could hardly believe it. I do wish we hadn't killed the first mate though. It took away their ability to find us/PRs, which we could have really used. But it did prevent them from killing us, which was nice. A shame the janitor didn't predict our kills very well.

3. You were really witched. When I claimed coroner, I was sure the blacksmith would CC me because by doing so, he would confirm that 1 of the 3 of us (me, blacksmith, or sanji) were scum. Since he didn't, I thought perhaps you were the blacksmith, so I tried witching you to see if we'd get an item. This turned out to be a mistake, obviously. I should have used my gun that night instead. But hindsight is 20/20, as they say.

4. As to who was/is vented, this is a question I will not answer.

[FM Capone Bege]

Who was the Pirate Captain? (If you don't mind revealing, of course.)I hope he's one of the dumber players and shoots a CP9. Or if he shoots a Marine, Town can still win. I haven't been following the game anymore since HotS came out.

I agree with Caribou, I think CP9 has a real shot at winning, but the next day is the most critical for Town imo.

[FM Basil Hawkins]

Lol. I'm not actually doctor :P
I just wanted to see who would believe me.

I think Bonney was vented because she didn't post an interview for 2 days.

[FM Whitebeard]

Only reason I outed myself was because Kidd was cornering me. He was showing impatience and said that he was waiting for the leader and scout to post their codes. I was one of the few active posters who hadn't been on yet, so I was going to get focus in CP9 night chat anyway even if I hadn't said anything. I tried to make a blatant claim and counter his arguments during the day to create as much distance between us as I still could, but then it all got ruined because he confirmed me rather than refuting my claim, which he should have.

I ranted at him in our night chat a bit and he kind of felt bad about the whole thing I think.. He just didn't understand my WIFOM at all, nor the importance of discretion it seems :/

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

Who was the Pirate Captain? (If you don't mind revealing, of course.)I hope he's one of the dumber players and shoots a CP9. Or if he shoots a Marine, Town can still win. I haven't been following the game anymore since HotS came out.

I agree with Caribou, I think CP9 has a real shot at winning, but the next day is the most critical for Town imo.

Sorry, I think I'll keep it a secret for now.

He SHOULD know who is cp9 by now. And even if he doesn't, he knows who ISN'T cp9, so he should start by killing those people and leave the rest to us. But I guess we'll see. I left my cp9 the ability to confirm themselves to our allies, so we shouldn't see any more mistakes as with my lynch.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

Only reason I outed myself was because Kidd was cornering me. He was showing impatience and said that he was waiting for the leader and scout to post their codes. I was one of the few active posters who hadn't been on yet, so I was going to get focus in CP9 night chat anyway even if I hadn't said anything. I tried to make a blatant claim and counter his arguments during the day to create as much distance between us as I still could, but then it all got ruined because he confirmed me rather than refuting my claim, which he should have.

I ranted at him in our night chat a bit and he kind of felt bad about the whole thing I think.. He just didn't understand my WIFOM at all, nor the importance of discretion it seems :/

Yeah, if he hadn't confirmed you I wouldn't have believed the claim, at least not when I did. Then you guys might have lived longer. Sorry I had to kill you. Nothing personal.

[FM Whitebeard]

That was the idea.. claim something so stupid that it wasn't believable

[FM Whitebeard]

It was pretty hard to pick good recruits by the way. Most of the more thoughtful people who weren't involved in the mess of claims were scum.

I reckon most of the useless lurkers were citizens, which we clearly didn't want.

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

Lol. I'm not actually doctor :P
I just wanted to see who would believe me.

I think Bonney was vented because she didn't post an interview for 2 days.

Aw man.
This is exactly what I was going to write:


''You know, now that I think about it, Straw Hat Luffy could very well be the Drug Dealer.
If you think about it, He was ''Roleblocked'' two days straight after the EM charges, which he could have faked.
He also ''Attacked and Healed'' Nami last night, which was a pretty darn good guess.

To counter this, though, I doubt CP9 would've done this, as it made us extremely suspicious of him being the Neutral Killer for a while.
So I'd say I still believe his Doctor claim, with a 20% chance of Drug Dealer.''



But I guess he is pretty much confirmed now.
What were you, Basil, a Citizen?

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

It was pretty hard to pick good recruits by the way. Most of the more thoughtful people who weren't involved in the mess of claims were scum.

I reckon most of the useless lurkers were citizens, which we clearly didn't want.

Caribou was secretly hoping he would get recruited. But after seeing how you guys played it out, I was all ''Poor Tony. Thank god I wasn't recruited.''

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

So from what I understand, Mihawk, You witched me to a CP9 member?
Pretty nice move!

Gosh I totally wish I would've rolled CP9. Such a fun faction!

[FM Whitebeard]

Caribou was secretly hoping he would get recruited. But after seeing how you guys played it out, I was all ''Poor Tony. Thank god I wasn't recruited.''

Your charged claim didn't exactly make you the most desirable recruit. There was certainly a chance it'd be a wasted night action and a wasted slot towards the cap (which we were never going to reach anyway, but meh )

[FM Hody Jones]

Hey Dracule... Why did you kill me, if I may ask?

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

Your charged claim didn't exactly make you the most desirable recruit. There was certainly a chance it'd be a wasted night action and a wasted slot towards the cap (which we were never going to reach anyway, but meh )

I know. This is exactly what I was thinking;
''Welp, Being charged by the EM totally gimped my chances of being recruited.''

[FM Donquixote Doflamingo]

I can answer some, but not all of your questions. Well, that's not exactly true. I can answer all your questions, but I enjoy leaving you in the dark.

1. The rebels- Really didn't understand this myself. That's why I didn't believe it at first. But after they confirmed each other... We made the obvious choice and killed them. I thought at least one of them would be a recruit, we were only trying to prevent them from reaching 5 members and obtaining better night abilities. When they were both the original rebels, it was a very pleasant surprise.

2. Yeah, finding the Pirate Captain night one was instrumental. I could hardly believe it. I do wish we hadn't killed the first mate though. It took away their ability to find us/PRs, which we could have really used. But it did prevent them from killing us, which was nice. A shame the janitor didn't predict our kills very well.

3. You were really witched. When I claimed coroner, I was sure the blacksmith would CC me because by doing so, he would confirm that 1 of the 3 of us (me, blacksmith, or sanji) were scum. Since he didn't, I thought perhaps you were the blacksmith, so I tried witching you to see if we'd get an item. This turned out to be a mistake, obviously. I should have used my gun that night instead. But hindsight is 20/20, as they say.

4. As to who was/is vented, this is a question I will not answer.

I was trying to play it off in a way that wouldn't reveal myself so I gave hints but sadly only you picked up on it and not our friend bonney. I got lucky you were Witch and didn't abuse my gun . Well played you had me fooled with the coroner claim

[FM Donquixote Doflamingo]

Your charged claim didn't exactly make you the most desirable recruit. There was certainly a chance it'd be a wasted night action and a wasted slot towards the cap (which we were never going to reach anyway, but meh )

When I got this account my original goal was to join the rebels but then you guys outed yourselves....I was a replacement btw :V I acted like I wasn't because I didn't want people to guess my com

[FM Whitebeard]

The 2 early marine kills surprised me, but I found them entertaining from my perspective. Actually gave a bit of hope after that first day of fail

[FM Whitebeard]

Oh and by the way.. Gecko was 100% correct on me on day 1.

When I said I didn't have anyone to talk to at night, it was because Kidd didn't post on the first night. That was the first thing that annoyed me about my little faction, which had much more potential than we got out of it ;)

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

Hey Dracule... Why did you kill me, if I may ask?

You seemed very smart and pro-town. Two things we couldn't allow to exist. hehe

Plus our ventriloquist claimed to know your COM and highly recommended your removal. So we agreed. We immediately regretted it when you turned out to be a marine. Sorry about that. Blame our vent.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

I know. This is exactly what I was thinking;
''Welp, Being charged by the EM totally gimped my chances of being recruited.''

Glad to see the fake charge wasn't a total bust. You having a night chat would've made you even more of a problem for us.

[FM Hody Jones]

You seemed very smart and pro-town. Two things we couldn't allow to exist. hehe

Plus our ventriloquist claimed to know your COM and highly recommended your removal. So we agreed. We immediately regretted it when you turned out to be a marine. Sorry about that. Blame our vent.

Heh. I was trying to seem neutral to town, pirates, and rebels, but I wanted you guys to guess I was marine.

[FM Donquixote Doflamingo]

Anyways to who I used my blacksmithing on -

n1 - Asspie player before me trys to give himself armor ???
n2 - asspie player doesn't do anything
n3 - joins game skim over the chat and give eustass armor thinking a blacksmith in rebels would be unstoppable. In hindsight I should've read into the game more and realized they had both revealed.
n4 - gun to dracule
n5 - gun to bonny
n6 - secret

Dracule at what post dd you realize I was the blacksmith? The "I don't want to get shot because you make cp9 think im a pirate?" or a different one.