Night 1: let's talk..

[FM Emporio Ivankov]

Let's discuss our findings now.

Unfortunately I was forced to be rather active early on and show my colors a bit. You literally posted yours, so I thought it'd be best to refer to that with some suspicion. If one of us does die early, the other will not be suspected as much to be a possible rebel, which makes it less likely the CP9 and the navy eliminate us completely.

Here's my faction reads on some people:

Bonney: I believe the journalist claim, because it would be impossible to keep up a charade after this night. Cheering on disguiser checks seems like a non-disguiser move.

Big Mom: Clearly wanting a town leader position. Could very well be town, but does not take a very strong stance in the whole faction fishing thing. Is too obvious a recruit target if the marines have an enforcer.

Urouge: Seems like town if you read the perspective he is posting, but could also be CP9 or Pirate. It almost looks like he's trying too hard to look like town with the constant coloured words and practically flawless town viewpoint, like it's rehearsed. Then when I ask a lurker what he thinks of Urouge, he snaps and votes me completely out of nowhere.

Ace Fist: Seems like citizen who wants recruitment OR pirate. He posted some support for rebels, and didn't have a very prominent presence during the day

Straw Hat Luffy: Interesting post here, where he figured out your little riddle

I see this as: A season = Autumn

Meaning that he's either Yellow or red. The fact that he give a clue like this is suspicious though...
No one would claim Rebel or Pirate like this.

Look at the caps. He says Yellow with a capital Y, just like your A in "A season," then says "or red" with a non-cap r. It's like he knows you're not red. He also doesn't ask anyone else's opinion on this after solving the riddle. He may have wanted to keep it as unnoticed as possible. This seems like a pirate move, looking for allies.

Caribou: CP9 (maybe marine) trying to set everyone up against rebels. Uses "I was town last time" as an argument, but doesn't really bite at you or Ace Fist for possible ties to rebels or pirates. If he was a marine or pro-marine townsplayer I would expect him to at least respond and show his disdain, but he completely ignored it. That's why I think CP9... maybe he needs to preserve pirate allies so he doesn't actually dare to put pressure on them?

Buggy the clown: Blue avatar, hinted at being an enforcer with "supporting rebels is not acceptable!" RP. Either is marine or is trying very hard to look like one. May also be CP9.

Capone: Is slightly anti-rebel, and seemed afraid to be associated with me since I got a train on me early. When I added a vote and a reason to pressure Trafalgar after he had voted him, he quickly changed vote from Trafalagar to Zoro without explaining and went silent for some time. I don't think this guy is town, but I don't know what he is.

Trafalagar Law:

I hope to lead town. I promise to post more later when I have time. I'm not a lurker. Sanji is lying. I still think Kidd is up to no good. Scum always spam a lot of useless stuff to drown town discussion. Town should discuss how to find out the Neutral Killer. I think Neutral Killer is Arsonist.

I was an arsonist last game, so he probably wasn't.. he doesn't explain why he thinks there is one.

I think we should not lynch lurkers since they might be recruited by Rebels. It is not good to make enemies of potential allies, even if we do not plan to ally with them. Similarly, we should not lynch trolls because Sogeking was a Marine last game and he trolled a lot. In fact I think we should not lynch anyone unless we have investigative results. Zoro and Hody were correct after all.
-vote skip day

Let's not lynch anyone who could be a potential ally. Because we have to wait for investigative results... which the town is never going to get. He is not town. Could very well be neutral killer.

[FM Emporio Ivankov]

What a retarded avatar. I'm going to change that

[FM Emporio Ivankov]

As for recruit targets, I think we should go for someone who was reasonably active so they will have a voice during the day AND insights at night, but not one of the most prominent people and not someone we made connections with.

Gecko is a very smart player, but his avatar is so in your face that it's probably not his actual role.

Hancock defended me.

Tony Tony could be worth getting. I think he's town anyway.

Maybe Don Krieg or Basil Hawkins.


My preference would go to recruiting Tony Tony.

I think I'll check BigMom or Urouge to see if they are citizens.

Thoughts?

[FM Monkey D Dragon]

Alright, I'm here. Sorry for being inactive last night, taht was due to I had no a damn clue the game was restarted lol.
So, sorry, but it seems like you've got the most crazy player here because I love riddles and I hate reading.
I think that you might be right about Hat Luffy, he might be trusting me.

Also, about our identities: Since we may have enemies who shouldn't know who we are, I think we shouldn't put each other's names in our LW. BUT: In case one of us dies and there are recruited rebels, at least one of them should be put in LW to gain the town trust; recruited Rebel puts in LW name of another Rebel and so on. So that we don't reveal all our teammates. It's just because I think we should side town. They can become our allies since we are good way to prove someone being or being not a Citizen.

This night I think I'll try to recruit one of the most contributive persons:

1. They are active and productive meaning at day.
2. Citizens are usually chatty.

Alright, I think I've chosen the recruit target.
As for you, you should better check Big Mom or Tony.

[FM Ferengi]

Last wills this, last wills that... last wills are disablen in this game.

[FM Emporio Ivankov]

You say you have chosen your recruit target? Then who did you pick?

Also I think it's risky to recruit the biggest talkers night 1. They are likely targets for Enforcers and Lookouts - one of which is definitely in the game in my opinion - and killers. It's better to recruit someone who spoke a significant amount, but who isn't on everyone's radar.

[FM Emporio Ivankov]

We should also make codes to indicate success or failure in recruiting and the result of my investigations.

[FM Ferengi]

Can we leave Night Actions in this thread?

Yes, but only if you use red color to mark your night actions.

[FM Monkey D Dragon]

We should also make codes to indicate success or failure in recruiting and the result of my investigations.

Alright, let's make it like this:

If the recruit was successful, I start my first post with "Sup, folks!". Other beginnings mean failure.
If your target is a Citizen, start your post with "Hi there, people."

[FM Monkey D Dragon]

-recruit FM Black Leg Sanji

[FM Emporio Ivankov]

I will investigate Tony Tony.

No, I will not start my post with "Hi there, people." It would get too obvious after a few days.

If I start my first post with the letter I, my target was a citizen.
If I start my first post with the letter T, I was roleblocked/witched/jailed so I don't have usable information.
If I start with anything else, my target was not a citizen.


I had a town read on Sanji too, but when he started subtly opposing the disguiser checks I became unsure of him. I'm ok with trying to recruit him if you want to, though.

As for your code, it's too easy to detect and it doesn't cover all possible scenarios.

I recommend:

If you start your first post with the letter S, your recruit was successful.
If you start your first post with the letter Y, your target was a town power role ("You have not received the answer from your target").
If you start your first post with the letter B, you were roleblocked/jailed so don't have usable information.
If you start with anything else, the recruit failed.

[FM Emporio Ivankov]

-check Tony Tony Chopper

[FM Emporio Ivankov]

You don't have to post your codes in bold by the way, that was just to make the letters stand out in my suggestion.

[FM Emporio Ivankov]

If we try to recruit someone who is immune to conversion, are they informed that someone tried to recruit them?

[FM Emporio Ivankov]

Do failed conversions count towards the 9 recruits limit?

Or is the "9 recruits" just the maximum rebel size? If yes, does that include ourselves? And do dead rebels count towards it as well?

[FM Ferengi]

Do failed conversions count towards the 9 recruits limit?

No.

[FM Ferengi]

Actually Rebel Scout will recieve either "Citizen" or "You have not received the answer from your target". In the second case, your target can be any role other than Citizen.

[FM Emporio Ivankov]

Thanks for the answers. That last bit doesn't really change the way we have to setup my code though. It's still just "citizen" or "not citizen" for scout checks ;)

Please answer this one too:
If we try to recruit someone who is immune to conversion, are they informed that someone tried to recruit them?

[FM Ferengi]

If we try to recruit someone who is immune to conversion, are they informed that someone tried to recruit them?

Only if your target is Enforcer. Enforcer can learn the identity of a person that tried to recruit him.

Recruited Citizens will only learn the identity of their recruiter at first, until they gain access to the night chat. But so does Infiltrator.

[FM Emporio Ivankov]

Possible Pirate roles: First Mate, Consort, Janitor, Framer, Blackmailer, Disguiser, Pirate
Possible Cipher Pol No 9 roles: Witch, Ventrilioquist, Grave Robber, Drug Dealer, Spy, Architect, Agent
Possible Marine roles: Jailor, Vigilante, Detective, Lookout, Bodyguard, Enforcer, Commodore
Possilbe Town Power roles: Doctor, Coroner, Journalist, Blacksmith, Escort, Mayor, Veteran, Bus Driver
Possible Neutral roles: Serial Killer, Arsonist, Electro Maniac, Joker, Jester, Executioner, Ghost, Amnesiac, Student, Skyper

Hang on a second. Infiltrator? That's not on the roles list.

[FM Emporio Ivankov]

Oh, but it is further down on the rolecards.

Infiltrator - Has one auto-vest. Will show up as Citizen to Rebels and can be "recruited" by then, allowing him to gain access to their night chat. He can still kill on his own even if he is sent by Rebel Leader to recruit someone else (to keep duping the Rebels). Is only immune to detection from Rebels, can still be detected by anyone else (such as Navy Admiral).

That could be what Gecko is then. I wonder if we could bring this up in day chat without being obvious about our own alignment.

[FM Emporio Ivankov]

It's a CP9 role by the way, Kidd.

[FM Monkey D Dragon]

I will investigate Tony Tony.

No, I will not start my post with "Hi there, people." It would get too obvious after a few days.

If I start my first post with the letter I, my target was a citizen.
If I start my first post with the letter T, I was roleblocked/witched/jailed so I don't have usable information.
If I start with anything else, my target was not a citizen.


I had a town read on Sanji too, but when he started subtly opposing the disguiser checks I became unsure of him. I'm ok with trying to recruit him if you want to, though.

As for your code, it's too easy to detect and it doesn't cover all possible scenarios.

I recommend:

If you start your first post with the letter S, your recruit was successful.
If you start your first post with the letter Y, your target was a town power role ("You have not received the answer from your target").
If you start your first post with the letter B, you were roleblocked/jailed so don't have usable information.
If you start with anything else, the recruit failed.

Okay, you are right. Let's use this code

[FM Monkey D Dragon]

It's a CP9 role by the way, Kidd.

I know. That's our greatest threat I think because hell, we can't know for sure if someone in our Rebellion may be Infiltrator.
Let's be careful about him.

[FM Monkey D Dragon]

Also, I suppose the "Y" letter from me goes to the variant about recruit failure since Idk if it was TPR or other non-cit role.

[FM Emporio Ivankov]

Also, I suppose the "Y" letter from me goes to the variant about recruit failure since Idk if it was TPR or other non-cit role.

Ah alright, I must've read that wrongly. I thought the "no answer" feedback was only for power roles.