Day 2: First Casualties

[FM Boa Hancock]

I personally think that's a pretty bad play, especially in this setup where the doctor can be invaluable. The doctor is basically the main link between possible alliances with the factions for town. Probably the most influential Town role for the setup i'd say.
Since i'll be posting a long ass post tomorrow about how the factions should be approaching the game. I'll state this now, if Basil turns out to be doctor, he played horrible. IF he is a citizen trying to take a night bullet from one of the scum factions, he's actually being pretty smart. Should he turn out to be as scum he'll be just as i suspected, a ???? what the hell were u thinking SCUM?

Essentially,if he is doc he is bad. Should he be scum he's most likely not the brightest. In case he will flip citizen, it was a great misdirection, should he be getting night killed.

Well if he is who i think he is. This might just be bad play...

@Bonney

Why wouldn't he reveal this himself by now? Also his article is pretty shit and does not compare with his day play. Still i think Urouge was a good target to pick for an interview though.

[FM Roronoa Zoro]

to hell with ALL of you nonbelievers

i interviewed Urogue. I WILL NOT REVEAL AGAIN UNLESS MY CIRCUMSTANCES ARE KEPT.

Bout bloody time. All aboard Urogue

[FM Roronoa Zoro]

Bout bloody time. All aboard Urogue

Oops Urogue

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

to hell with ALL of you nonbelievers

i interviewed Urogue. I WILL NOT REVEAL AGAIN UNLESS MY CIRCUMSTANCES ARE KEPT.

Well if he is who i think he is. This might just be bad play...

@Bonney

Why wouldn't he reveal this himself by now? Also his article is pretty shit and does not compare with his day play. Still i think Urouge was a good target to pick for an interview though.

you can ask him that. he's probably thinking of what he should say to this. whether he should confirm or deny. but all hell will break loose if he denies or says nothing.

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

you can ask him that. he's probably thinking of what he should say to this. whether he should confirm or deny. but all hell will break loose if he denies or says nothing.

nvm, probably just coming up with a good ass reason on why he's a cit and didn't check his account. I DONT FREAKIN KNOW. i'm just deliver newspapers honestly.

[FM Roronoa Zoro]

Why do you believe Bonney is not a journalist {since Day 1.5}?
Why do you believe Bonney is still town despite {you believing that she is} false claiming?
How do you know Straw's alignment?
What town motivation do you have for stating that Straw is probably the doctor?
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I apologize, I seem to have neglected this post. I will answer these is a moment, but some require some complicated closed thread quotes.

[FM Boa Hancock]

He already takes too long to answer to this.

[FM Whitebeard]

So while we are waiting for Urouge's input, why did you think it was necessary to protect him for so long Bonney?

[FM Roronoa Zoro]

Why do you believe Bonney is not a journalist {since Day 1.5}?
Why do you believe Bonney is still town despite {you believing that she is} false claiming?

Journalist. Pretty sure I can prove it if I understand how the role works. Which I don't.

Who doesn't figure out how their role works this late in the game? Either she is trying to protect herself. (I now believe this may have been right since she finally confirmed).

OR

She isn't really journalist and therefore wants to be attacked, and will be not be lynched for lying because she can prove. Veteran, Bus Driver

How do you know Straw's alignment?

I don't I simply believe his claim that he is town, based on the fact I see no reason to consider him otherwise. Innocent until proven Guilty.

What town motivation do you have for stating that Straw is probably the doctor?

I never stated he was probably the doctor. I said I wouldn't be surprised if he was, probably shouldn't have capitalized that.

[FM Big Mom]

Urouge is obvious scum.

-vote FM Urouge

[FM Roronoa Zoro]

Any other further concerns about me being town? I'm free all night to answer them.

[FM Whitebeard]

I don't I simply believe his claim that he is town, based on the fact I see no reason to consider him otherwise. Innocent until proven Guilty.

Now that Basil has claimed doctor, do you still think that Straw Luffy might be a doctor?

[FM Roronoa Zoro]

Now that Basil has claimed doctor, do you still think that Straw Luffy might be a doctor?

I highly doubt Basil to be doctor, he healed someone I clearly "Directed" to be double killed.

[FM Big Mom]

Who doesn't figure out how their role works this late in the game? Either she is trying to protect herself. (I now believe this may have been right since she finally confirmed).

OR

She isn't really journalist and therefore wants to be attacked, and will be not be lynched for lying because she can prove. Veteran, Bus Driver

I don't I simply believe his claim that he is town, based on the fact I see no reason to consider him otherwise. Innocent until proven Guilty.

I never stated he was probably the doctor. I said I wouldn't be surprised if he was, probably shouldn't have capitalized that.

Do you believe Bonney is not a journalist because you are a journalist?
Why would you not be surprised if Luffy was a doctor?

[FM Whitebeard]

Still waiting for your answer, Bonney!

[FM Big Mom]

I highly doubt Basil to be doctor, he healed someone I clearly "Directed" to be double killed.

Why did you direct Bonney to be double killed?

[FM Big Mom]

Still waiting for your answer, Bonney!

I am more waiting for Urouge's answer. :suspicous:

[FM Whitebeard]

I think it's really strange that Bonney would suddenly go AFK when she's expecting someone to confirm her.

[FM Roronoa Zoro]

Do you believe Bonney is not a journalist because you are a journalist?

No I previously stated my reasoning.

Why would you not be surprised if Luffy was a doctor?

Suggested he left hints, and I could see some of his posts as hinting doctor or bodyguard

[FM Big Mom]

I will be leaving momentarily. My recommendation is that we pressure Urouge until he confirms or denys Bonney.

[FM Roronoa Zoro]

Why did you direct Bonney to be double killed?

I thought she was vet/bus driver.

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

I think it's really strange that Bonney would suddenly go AFK when she's expecting someone to confirm her.

i'm still here. looking for your question.

[FM Straw Hat Luffy]

we are running out of time i apparently have to sheep to get something done.

I'll be changing my vote on the most voted person now.
Also, note that
Zoro voted for Law
whilst
Luffy voted for Basil

Keep this in mind.
That said

-vote FM Basil Hawkins

Tell me why this information is important please?

I'm the doctor.
Night 1 I healed Jewelry Bonney, the journalist, because I believe her claim.

I've been trying to keep a low profile, but I guess that didn't work very well. I don't even understand how I was supposedly trying to "derail the Cyborg Franky lynch" like people have been saying.

Bus driver on me, please, and I will WIFOM heal Jewelry Bonney/other pro-town members.

I don't quite trust him. As some of you said (And I think so too), he can be scum claiming a role almost impossible to prove.
Or a cit trying to protect the real doc. Ether way, regarding his play style, I think we should go foward with the lynch. (Or at least, everyone quickly go on Trafalgar since Basil will surely die tonight with a claim like that.) If we lynch him, we lose a cit or lynch a scum. I really don't think he's the doc. IMO

[FM Whitebeard]

Zoro: Do you think Bonney and Urouge might be on the same team and that Urouge is deliberating if he will help Bonney out?

[FM Roronoa Zoro]

Tell me why this information is important please?



I don't quite trust him. As some of you said (And I think so too), he can be scum claiming a role almost impossible to prove.
Or a cit trying to protect the real doc. Ether way, regarding his play style, I think we should go foward with the lynch. (Or at least, everyone quickly go on Trafalgar since Basil will surely die tonight with a claim like that.) If we lynch him, we lose a cit or lynch a scum. I really don't think he's the doc. IMO

I agree with the lynch law. I suspect hes CP9

[FM Big Mom]

Zoro: Do you think Bonney and Urouge might be on the same team and that Urouge is deliberating if he will help Bonney out?

Urouge is taking too long with his confirmation/denial.

[FM Whitebeard]

Bonney why is it taking so long for you to find my question?

[FM Roronoa Zoro]

Zoro: Do you think Bonney and Urouge might be on the same team and that Urouge is deliberating if he will help Bonney out?

I have a theory on Bonney and Urogue only pressuring Urogue will confirm or deny.

[FM Big Mom]

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[FM Jewelry Bonney]

So while we are waiting for Urouge's input, why did you think it was necessary to protect him for so long Bonney?

because i believed the first explanation someone posted. he was a cit that didn't check his account, but others posted different reasons. SORRY I'M NOT CAPABLE OF THINKING FOR MYSELF. i'm reallllyyy tired, so i'm going off other people's reasons.

i revealed now, that i might get shot tomorrow. bus driver may or may not be on me tomorrow.

also, scum might have it in their best interests to keep me alive, as my posts reveal information for everyone including them (this is me saving my ass).

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

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can you stop with this?

[FM Eustass Kidd]

So, info I got from reading the pages:

Dracule claimed Bus Driven. On the one hand, it makes sense for him to be swapped with dead pirate. But, on the other hand, he could be CP9 faking being swapped to hide his buddy Witch or himself Witch. Also, his will to lynch Trafalgar is, uh, too high or something. Yes, I know that Trafalgar lies badly too, but he is the most obvious Jester/Vent's target imo. The only thing I want on Law is to be Vigi shot or at least checked by investigative roles this night.

Bonney is a strong claimer about Journalist. I really don't think that she faked that cause it's too risky to claim such a thing knowing there is a real Journalist in game (again, the same reason for why Trafalgar is hardly scum, cause his fake-claim rebel move just sucks). According to this, we must ask Urouge.

Zoro claimed Citizen. I really don't know whether to trust it or not, maybe our rebellion will check this tonight... cause we can.

Basil claimed Doctor. Just... needs proof... and defence I suppose.

2 EM claimers and 1 Arso claimer. Fuck my brains, DD just faked arso to make people nervous. Or there is no Jester, trafalgar is simply stupid scum or vented guy and we deal with 2 neutral killers. AWESOME!

Krieg claimed roleblocked. If we really have DD who faked one of neut killers, fine, then rb claim is just legit. We have a role-blocker. Unless Krieg did recieve his ordinary feedback despite of roleblock. Did you, Don?

[FM Roronoa Zoro]

can you stop with this?

I find it quite informative. I'd rather he continued.

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

Zoro: Do you think Bonney and Urouge might be on the same team and that Urouge is deliberating if he will help Bonney out?

we need to stop deliberating on whether i'm town or not and take it for truth. now theres nothing more i can prove.

[FM Whitebeard]

Ok, those 2 posts were so close together it was either really well played or Zoro and Bonney aren't the same person.

Waiting for Urouge now.

[FM Roronoa Zoro]

we need to stop deliberating on whether i'm town or not and take it for truth. now theres nothing more i can prove.

You're right, but there is more urogue can prove.

[FM Roronoa Zoro]

Ok, those 2 posts were so close together it was either really well played or Zoro and Bonney aren't the same person.

Waiting for Urouge now.

Just pointing out you can be logged into a different account for each browser on your machine. This means nothing.

[FM Whitebeard]

Just pointing out you can be logged into a different account for each browser on your machine. This means nothing.

I know, but it does make it less likely. I did all I could to test my theory anyway.

[FM Boa Hancock]

So, info I got from reading the pages:

Dracule claimed Bus Driven. On the one hand, it makes sense for him to be swapped with dead pirate. But, on the other hand, he could be CP9 faking being swapped to hide his buddy Witch or himself Witch. Also, his will to lynch Trafalgar is, uh, too high or something. Yes, I know that Trafalgar lies badly too, but he is the most obvious Jester/Vent's target imo. The only thing I want on Law is to be Vigi shot or at least checked by investigative roles this night.

Bonney is a strong claimer about Journalist. I really don't think that she faked that cause it's too risky to claim such a thing knowing there is a real Journalist in game (again, the same reason for why Trafalgar is hardly scum, cause his fake-claim rebel move just sucks). According to this, we must ask Urouge.

Zoro claimed Citizen. I really don't know whether to trust it or not, maybe our rebellion will check this tonight... cause we can.

Basil claimed Doctor. Just... needs proof... and defence I suppose.

2 EM claimers and 1 Arso claimer. Fuck my brains, DD just faked arso to make people nervous. Or there is no Jester, trafalgar is simply stupid scum or vented guy and we deal with 2 neutral killers. AWESOME!

Krieg claimed roleblocked. If we really have DD who faked one of neut killers, fine, then rb claim is just legit. We have a role-blocker. Unless Krieg did recieve his ordinary feedback despite of roleblock. Did you, Don?

Logic fail. You can only fake claim bus driven when you are 100% sure that there is none in the game. FM Dracula is clearly speaking the truth about his drive as long nobody counterclaims it.

It's high likely that there is a Consort/Escort in the game just to enrich the possibilities at night.

I don't see what you want us to tell with 90% of your post. Especially because 80% of it was already answered.

[FM Capone Bege]

-vote FM Urouge

Almost an hour since Bonney revealed, I think he needs some more "motivation" to post.

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

-vote FM Urouge

meh.

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

I find it quite informative. I'd rather he continued.

i don't find it informative at all... maybe a code for his buddies.

[FM Roronoa Zoro]

i don't find it informative at all... maybe a code for his buddies.

Just pointing out hes not the only one that has been posting strangely :P

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

Just pointing out hes not the only one that has been posting strangely :P

like... you?

[FM Straw Hat Luffy]

Switching my vote from Basil to Urouge since it will do no good on Basil.(Since he claimed a possible role and the fact that the lynch train stopped)

I'll help put some pressure on Urouge.

-vote FM Urouge

[Trafalgar Law]

From FAQ: New recruits will only learn the name of the person who recruited then until they made it safely to the next night, after which they will gain the full access to Rebel night chat. Kidd is lying since day 1. And I think Mihawk is the Witch. I will end up being useless tonight. I cannot recruit anymore. Our scout have to recruit for me so we cannot check power role claimer and inform town tomorrow. I think town power roles should join the rebels. We will invite you and clear you the day after.

[FM Basil Hawkins]

What do you think about Straw Hat Luffy and the accusations that were placed against him previously?

Accusations against Straw Hat Luffy = unvoting Cyborg Franky (to my memory)

Spoiler : ”Straw Hat Luffy:” :

#197

I really hope you were just kidding. I'm not the same Luffy as before you know. :P

Anyway, hi guys, sorry for kinda late post.
For now, I'll do some reading (Not finished yet) and I will share my analysis later.

Says he will post analysis later. Let’s see if he follows through with this.

#255

insert long analysis post here

Straw Hat Luffy delivers his analysis! Picking through his textwall, I see him calling out people as possible town/marine roles with one rebel accusation. Seems to me that town wants to hunt pirates/cp9 instead of hunting town/marines/rebels. Possibly a pirate/cp9 slip.

#274

insert Gecko Moria post analysis here

Concludes that Gecko Moria is not suspicious but not ok either and just “goes with the flow”.

#428

I see this as: A season = Autumn

Meaning that he's either Yellow or red. The fact that he give a clue like this is suspicious though...
No one would claim Rebel or Pirate like this.

Is suspicious of Eustass Kidd’s leaf thing. If Eustass Kidd is a rebel, Luffy is probably not a rebel unless he is scolding his partner in code.

#502

Her words do not indicate that she have a night chat... she said she have a faction. Town is a faction too.
Note that I'm not taking her defence here, I'm a little suspicious too but you can't say thing that she didn't say.

Explains a point that Big Mom distorted about Boa. Pro town to point out errors, possible buddying even though Luffy claims it is not.

#515

And 26 for Capone bege.

also, Basil gave a hint about being a town... lets not forget that.

As for the lynch, Franky is a good candidate but can't be presured because he's not here.
So now we must either take a chance with Franky or keep going to acquire more information.
(Hoping that more people will show up to argue)

First defense of Franky, saing not to pressure him because he is not here.

#516

Once you're done, I would like to hear your opinion on the game so far ;)

And showing up right after your name is on the lurker list is a little suspicious but I'll give you the benifit of the doubt.

Points out Sogeking is a lurker who showed up right as he was mentioned. (Pro town)

#536

My turn now.

-vote Cyborg Franky

Fail votes Cyborg Franky

#544

Not scum... A little mistake thats all

-vote FM Cyborg Franky


-Fixed

Votes cyborg Franky when called out on it.

#594

Even if Franky is AFK, we all agreed to lynch/Pressure him. Why do you want us all to change target?
Are you trying to protect Franky by pointing out someone else?

Goes as far as to accuse someone else (Capone Bege) of diverting attention off of Cyborg Franky.

#675

I guess I can Undo my vote on Franky for now since there's no proof of him being scum...

-unvote

unvotes Franky when he doesn’t respond to accusations against him.

#717

Are you telling us that you're scum? Zoro saying that your post was WIFOM and you saying that only scum WIFOM...

Points out a reason why Cyborg Franky is scum. (Probably means they are not on the same team, therefore piggybacking off of the #255 analysis earlier it means that Luffy is probably CP9)

#724

Be careful... sarcasm here can put you in trouble ;)

Note that in my post I didn't told that you were scum. I know it was sarcasm.
Should have added a smiley at the end so there would be no confusion x)

Makes light of the situation.

#778

I'm back!

If I recall correctly, this day will be a no lynch day? (I personnaly disapprove this, it would be rather easy to lynch a lurker/scum)
And I don't think that we should lynch Franky (Even if he lurked) we should gather more information first.

Prefers not to lynch Franky even if he lurks.

#131

And I will follow you since your post make a lot of sense. *Put Foxy on my scum list*
I did not pay attention to his post and now I see that I was wrong doing so.

Sheeping Tony Tony Chopper

#273

(I cut the wall of text because it was a little too big ^^)

I'll try to answer the best I can:

First: I'm not making huge post analysis because I don't have time for that (Not recently) or somebody came up with an analyse similar to what I though (What you call sheeping. Since I didn't have the time for a huge post, I "sheeped" a little)

Second: The unvote on Franky was a mistake. There's was no evidence that he was or not a scum. With my logical mind having no answer for now, I though about giving him the benefit of the doubt. Turns out he's a pirate? Pure coincidence. I've been scum hunting since the start. I also unvoted him because pressuring somebody that's not here is not the best way to get information. What if he was town PR? I don't like lynching without enough proof/slip/etc.

Third: I was not buddying with FM Big Mom. I just found his analysis awesome and true most of the time. His posts are often like what I think so here again, why repeating everything he said? (Sheeping kind of)

Fourth: I wasn't paying attention to Foxy because he did not post a lot, so not much information given. No information = no clue.

Fifth: About the neutral town thing. As I said before, I don't have much time for me. So posting big wall of text is often impossible.
I would really like to be able to post huge analysis often but I can't. (By the way, right now I'm using my so needed sleeping time to answer your post :P)

Sixth: Pressure is meaningless when no one is paying attention. If I recall correctly, Boa , big mom, sogeking and more where talking about the vote and completely ignored the pressure vote. With the end of day coming fast, I knew we wouldn't had time to get info from Franky.

Seventh: "What the hell happened with Franky? A pirate killed by a pirate?
There's something behind this I'm sure of it." Pure sarcasm... sorry I forgot the smiley ^^.

This should cover it up. If I have forgotten something please tell me and I will gladly answer.

Answers suspicions against him. It doesn’t seem overly defensive to me.

#274

The problem with that is that I'm not a pirate.^^
I won't claim role but I can say that I'm town.

Claims non pirate, but doesn’t claim non-cp9! Claims town, but seems suspicious. He can SAY that he’s town, but he doesn’t say that he IS town. Semantics.

#275

I was ready for a quick answer but since there's nothing after 15 minutes, I'll get going and I'll be back tomorrow.

Seems scummy. I think I remember scum posting stuff like this before.

#324

Looks legit for the Rebel Leader claim...
I'll unvote...

-unvote

Indicates that Luffy is not Rebel.

#326

Look like putting an unvote and a vote in the same post doesn't work.
You'll need to vote again :P

And I'm joining the party. There's something scummy about Zoro since the start. It's pressure time!

-vote FM Roronoa Zoro

Another sheepy post joining a train.

#359
[quote]You should go back to Trafalgar then because I'm town. I don't wanna reveal my role though. If it goes to the point that I must reveal or I'm lynched, then I'll do it... There's a hint somewhere in one of my first post.

I don't blame you for that because how thing goes, odds are against me.

I hope that you'll understand that lynching me is a mistake.

If you have any question, I'll answer them.
[quote]

Says voting him is a mistake. I looked back at his first posts. His second post he only analyzed the rebel/town/marines, and commented on investigations that make me think he could be a marine (if not a cp9 or pirate)

#367

I saw something special about him... Though it was weird... it goes like this:

Day 1.5 - Post #727
Really tired of keeping the vote, I think I should change my random lynch target to someone else.
-unvote
Brb in the afternoon.

(looks like a normal post)

When I clicked on his profile picture to see all his post, I saw this:

Really tired of keeping the vote, I think I should change my random lynch target to someone else. I am not red Brb in the afternoon.

He hide that with the unvote tag I think. I supposed he was yellow since he made a hidden claim. Why making it hidden if it's not true?

I also want to try if my theory is correct. I'll do an unvote tag with a hidden message in it right now.

-unvote

Exposes the hidden vote tag code. Pro town.

#385

Ok, you might not have solid evidence of me being town (Even if I helped town from the start and posted a scum tactic/hidden message in the unvote tag) but you don't have solid evidence of me being scum either. Just saying.

Says there is no evidence of being town or being scum. Null read, leaning scum. Why would town post this? Seems a bit defensive.

#468

Imo, it would be safer to lynch Basil or Foxy over Trafalgar...
Trafalgar is still a potential ally (Even if it's weird for him to claim Rebel Leader)
Also, a part of my brain take in consideration that he could be vented.

So my vote will go here.

-vote FM Basil Hawkins


I suggest that everyone vote Basil (Or if anyone provide another target with solid proof...)
We can't skip another lynch...

Prefers not to lynch a rebel leader. I’m really confused about Luffy’s alignment again. If he was cp9 or marine he would want to.

Conclusion: I would not think that Luffy and Cyborg Franky could be pirates together in #717 and #724. #274 additionally makes me believe he is not a pirate, but also not town. #255 makes me think cp9 is probably the best fit.

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

From FAQ: New recruits will only learn the name of the person who recruited then until they made it safely to the next night, after which they will gain the full access to Rebel night chat. Kidd is lying since day 1. And I think Mihawk is the Witch. I will end up being useless tonight. I cannot recruit anymore. Our scout have to recruit for me so we cannot check power role claimer and inform town tomorrow. I think town power roles should join the rebels. We will invite you and clear you the day after.

dont make us choose sides.

[FM Roronoa Zoro]

like... you?

Nah, some of them post a little differently, but in the same manner. :P.

[FM Basil Hawkins]

From FAQ: New recruits will only learn the name of the person who recruited then until they made it safely to the next night, after which they will gain the full access to Rebel night chat. Kidd is lying since day 1. And I think Mihawk is the Witch. I will end up being useless tonight. I cannot recruit anymore. Our scout have to recruit for me so we cannot check power role claimer and inform town tomorrow. I think town power roles should join the rebels. We will invite you and clear you the day after.

I should announce right now that I will be declining to join the rebels at least until the mid/end game if it becomes more apparent which factions are winning.