Day 1.5: Where we arrived again?

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

If there weren't the fail night actions like in every game...

Fair point, but I don't like to rely on those for obvious reasons.

[FM Big Mom]

I see what you're saying, but I think it's a bit flawed. If I'm understanding correctly, you're saying that the CP9 are limited by the fact that they can win with the marines, when in fact the marines would be a very valuable ally to them.

Furthermore, I think saying the Pirates are not similarly affected is also incorrect. Both the CP9 and pirates can win with one side that can also win with town (for pirates, it's the rebels, for CP9, it's the marines) as well as one side that can't win with town (each other). This means the pirates are going to try to find and destroy the marines (while killing town) and the CP9 are going to attempt to take down the rebels (again, while killing town).

What I'm saying is that the CP9 have to appear to be working along side the Marines untill the town is split by rebels. Once that happens then they are freed up to be as open as they need to be in regards to Pirates and Marines. {Because I feel that with the town split by the rebels the town would side with the rebels and the marines would then side with CP9.}
Once the Town is split by rebels they have to choose to side with Marines or Rebels and will not be able to remain neutral.

The Pirates on the other hand are not effected by this fact. The rebels can grow as much as they want and kill whomever and the CP9 can gank whomever they want and nothing, roughly, will effect the Pirates if they can survive as a unit to that point in time. The only thing standing in the way of the Pirates dominating the entire game is the Marines. {Because Rebels can steal from the Town and split them up and thus practically erase the threat town is to the Pirates..}

[FM Big Mom]

This is all in reference to the underlying nature of human beings to take the easiest route to victory.

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

To be honest the main reason I'd like to be interview is I think her claims of bull shit. I do however believe her to be town. Nothing she has said was incriminating.

wtf? LOL you think i'm lying as journalist, but still think i'm town? get out of here please. vote this guy.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

What I'm saying is that the CP9 have to appear to be working along side the Marines untill the town is split by rebels. Once that happens then they are freed up to be as open as they need to be in regards to Pirates and Marines. {Because I feel that with the town split by the rebels the town would side with the rebels and the marines would then side with CP9.}
Once the Town is split by rebels they have to choose to side with Marines or Rebels and will not be able to remain neutral.

The Pirates on the other hand are not effected by this fact. The rebels can grow as much as they want and kill whomever and the CP9 can gank whomever they want and nothing, roughly, will effect the Pirates if they can survive as a unit to that point in time. The only thing standing in the way of the Pirates dominating the entire game is the Marines. {Because Rebels can steal from the Town and split them up and thus practically erase the threat town is to the Pirates..}

I see. So you believe the CP9 will only appear to ally themselves with the marines, but will actually side with the pirates in the end? Interesting. The problem I see with your argument is that if the rebels have actually divided the town as you describe, I should think the CP9 would rather side with the marines since the rebels are their common enemy, whereas pirates can win with rebels.

[FM Big Mom]

I see. So you believe the CP9 will only appear to ally themselves with the marines, but will actually side with the pirates in the end? Interesting. The problem I see with your argument is that if the rebels have actually divided the town as you describe, I should think the CP9 would rather side with the marines since the rebels are their common enemy, whereas pirates can win with rebels.

This is the only real chink that I see with this problem.
The reason I drew this conclusion is because of the power roles that the Rebels can obtain do not correlate with the potential strength that the CP9 have. Which would thus give more incentive for the Pirates to side with CP9

[FM Big Mom]

This is the only real chink that I see with this problem.
The reason I drew this conclusion is because of the power roles that the Rebels can obtain do not correlate with the potential strength that the CP9 have. Which would thus give more incentive for the Pirates to side with CP9

Misunderstood.
My apologies.
I agree with your words Drac.

[FM Red Haired Shanks]

I am in a bit of a predicament currently. This will most likely be my only post today so i will make it count. I will state that I've read only about the last 2 pages due to the limited time that i am in currently. I want to say this to everyone, As much as we want to push for an alliance between the Marines and Revos, The only problem is that it isn't our choice on who we want. As the effects of peoples night actions will determine who we are stuck siding with. For now we need to focus on the CP9 and Pirates which is obvious. And let the game thing a bit out more before we pick a side that we want to be with. You will hear more from me tomorrow.

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

i will not tell the town who i choose. if you want to not believe me, and the person i choose refuses to write it, and you all lynch me, then ya'll are hellah dumb.

how does the code thing work? even though I don't think that i'll be disguised, as it'll auto unprove.

And i think Cyborg Franky is just one of those classic uninterested citizens that will pop in and out. not a good enough scum tell. WE SHOULD lynch someone that voted me. and i have no idea what the hell roranoa is doing. does he think i'm a veteran?

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

i also seriously doubt that my target will die, so i'll be proven tomorrow.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

i will not tell the town who i choose. if you want to not believe me, and the person i choose refuses to write it, and you all lynch me, then ya'll are hellah dumb.

Good. If they refuse to write it, I suggest you announce their name tomorrow so that they may be lynched. After tomorrow you should be confirmed town

On a side note: I have some business to take care of, so I will be out for a little while.

[FM Basil Hawkins]

Hey everyone, I'm back!

[FM Basil Hawkins]

Good. If they refuse to write it, I suggest you announce their name tomorrow so that they may be lynched. After tomorrow you should be confirmed town

On a side note: I have some business to take care of, so I will be out for a little while.

WTF who would refuse to write a journal article.

i will not tell the town who i choose. if you want to not believe me, and the person i choose refuses to write it, and you all lynch me, then ya'll are hellah dumb.

Yes, the person interviewed should remain anonymous or else that completely defeats the purpose of the interview. Jewelry Bonney should also be really careful not to give hints about the person he is interviewing in order to protect the identity of the interviewee. Whoever wants the target announced during the day is scum.

[FM Basil Hawkins]

I find it a bit odd that Big Mom says its better to pressure people who are here rather than lurkers and then several posts later he ends up voting Cyborg Franky. Scum bandwagoning much?

[FM Big Mom]

I find it a bit odd that Big Mom says its better to pressure people who are here rather than lurkers and then several posts later he ends up voting Cyborg Franky. Scum bandwagoning much?

I'm guessing you missed the whole FoS and vote upon Boa and her counters to my suspicions, which I deemed acceptable enough to retract the suspicion, and thus was free to move my vote onto someone else.

[FM Basil Hawkins]

I'm guessing you missed the whole FoS and vote upon Boa and her counters to my suspicions, which I deemed acceptable enough to retract the suspicion, and thus was free to move my vote onto someone else.

But Cyborg Franky isn't even here right now. I just find it interesting that you chose to pursue a target like him instead of someone like the Red Haired Shanks who posted 38 minutes ago after you specifically stated earlier that it's better to pressure targets who are here than people who are not here.

This is just an observation.

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

But Cyborg Franky isn't even here right now. I just find it interesting that you chose to pursue a target like him instead of someone like the Red Haired Shanks who posted 38 minutes ago after you specifically stated earlier that it's better to pressure targets who are here than people who are not here.

This is just an observation.

Caribou will say it again;
We can't divide the votes like this; we won't get anywhere.

Dividing the votes won't lead us anywhere.
It was agreed that we were putting pressure on Franky; It wouldn't have done much to just put one vote on someone.
Even if it's better to pressure people that are here rather than lurkers, it doesn't mean that this is what's going to happen.

Caribou's two cents.

[FM Big Mom]

But Cyborg Franky isn't even here right now. I just find it interesting that you chose to pursue a target like him instead of someone like the Red Haired Shanks who posted 38 minutes ago after you specifically stated earlier that it's better to pressure targets who are here than people who are not here.

This is just an observation.

This might be a misinterpretation of my words or I'm just not clear enough.
Either way I have no real suspicions on Shanks atm and what I was meaning is that people who seem scummy and are active are better FoS targets than people who never/rarely post.

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

if we lynch somenoe, we might AS WELL kill someone who's not going to participate in the game.

-vote FM Cyborg Franky

[FM Don Krieg]

if we lynch somenoe, we might AS WELL kill someone who's not going to participate in the game.

-vote FM Cyborg Franky

Atleast give him some hours.

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

i may not be here later, so if you want to take off your vote for now, that's cool.

[FM Don Krieg]

i may not be here later, so if you want to take off your vote for now, that's cool.

Ah, hmm.. I will probably let my vote stay for that reason, I will be here tomorrow several hours before the day ends and if the majority decided to end the day by lynching, then that's cool by me.

[FM Big Mom]

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[FM Buggy the Clown]

Ah jeez...
I just want to lynch the cyborg man

[FM Crocodile]

Omg replacement here!

I have read up too page 20. I'm going to need a few more hours.

[FM Hody Jones]

Hello, everyone. I'm back and slightly more sentient today. I also will make no attempt to hide my previous identity.

So, once again:
I'm pretty terrible at just jumping into Day 1 with no prompts. So, Caribou and Big Mom, (or anyone else who is experienced) ask me questions, please.

[FM Straw Hat Luffy]

Hello, everyone. I'm back and slightly more sentient today. I also will make no attempt to hide my previous identity.

So, once again:
I'm pretty terrible at just jumping into Day 1 with no prompts. So, Caribou and Big Mom, (or anyone else who is experienced) ask me questions, please.

Lets start with this:

What's your opinion about the Bonney affair?

And about lynching FM Lurker Franky?

[FM Whitebeard]

Hello, everyone. I'm back and slightly more sentient today. I also will make no attempt to hide my previous identity.

So, once again:
I'm pretty terrible at just jumping into Day 1 with no prompts. So, Caribou and Big Mom, (or anyone else who is experienced) ask me questions, please.

Hello, everyone. I'm back and slightly more sentient today. I also will make no attempt to hide my previous identity.

So, once again:
I'm pretty terrible at just jumping into Day 1 with no prompts. So, Caribou and Big Mom, (or anyone else who is experienced) ask me questions, please.

Do you have any pirate or CP9 suspects?

Do you believe Bonny's claim?

What is your read on Urouge?

What is your read on Eustass Kid?

What is your read on Caribou?

What do you think of eliminating lurkers with lynches and/or blacksmith guns?

[FM Buggy the Clown]

Hody! What's your read on Fire Fist Ace????

[FM Blackbeard]

I see what you're saying, but I think it's a bit flawed. If I'm understanding correctly, you're saying that the CP9 are limited by the fact that they can win with the marines, when in fact the marines would be a very valuable ally to them.

Furthermore, I think saying the Pirates are not similarly affected is also incorrect. Both the CP9 and pirates can win with one side that can also win with town (for pirates, it's the rebels, for CP9, it's the marines) as well as one side that can't win with town (each other). This means the pirates are going to try to find and destroy the marines (while killing town) and the CP9 are going to attempt to take down the rebels (again, while killing town).

If there weren't the fail night actions like in every game...

Fair point, but I don't like to rely on those for obvious reasons.

This seemed to me as subtle buddying from a CP9 and Pirate perspective, and stood out to me. May just be talking general strategy, which I agree with, but still.
Re-reading in context again

[FM Urouge]

Do you have any pirate or CP9 suspects?

Do you believe Bonny's claim?

What is your read on Urouge?

What is your read on Eustass Kid?

What is your read on Caribou?

What do you think of eliminating lurkers with lynches and/or blacksmith guns?

ahahaha, you, are a good man.
We on good terms, friendly yes?

"Insert 2012 - The Dictator footage - Slice his neck"

-vote FM Whitebeard

[FM Whitebeard]

Eh? Where exactly did that come from?

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

I still have some stuff to do, but I thought I'd take a break and check in on you rascals.

Omg replacement here!

I have read up too page 20. I'm going to need a few more hours.

Replaced half way through the day... I'm not sure what to make of this.

Has Crocodile really been replaced?

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

This seemed to me as subtle buddying from a CP9 and Pirate perspective, and stood out to me. May just be talking general strategy, which I agree with, but still.
Re-reading in context again

Interesting. Tell me what you think once you've re-read it in context.

[FM Jimbei]

I was off doing some warlord stuff..

[FM Whitebeard]

I was off doing some warlord stuff..

You can go ahead and answer the same questions I asked Hody if you want to make yourself useful.

[FM Blackbeard]

Interesting. Tell me what you think once you've re-read it in context.

There seemed to be a decent CP9+pirate plan going on, and you two seemed to think that it would be effective (and I agree), but Boa (and to some extent you with your response) is hoping that there would not be bad night actions, which can only help town, therefore seeming to be from cp9 or pirate PoV

[FM Blackbeard]

If run-on sentence needs clarifications, I can do that

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

vzjdrxdpowbsfppfnna

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

everyone should be doing encryption, and your first post of tomorrow should be your unencrypted password. gotta take all the precautions we possibly can.

[FM Capone Bege]

-vote FM Cyborg Franky

No use waiting for an AFK so I say we move on to another person...
FIRE FIST ACE!

I have nicely compiled his posts for everyone, and hope that there is some pressure on him when he comes back

You stole my name, asshole [vote]Fm Tony Tony Chopper[vote]

-vote fm Tony tony Chopper

I can't say much about this without being a hypocrite, but the main difference between me and him random voting was that I immediately changed to vote to someone who sheeped the vote (usually a scumtell)

Even you questioned yourself?

This doesn't make sense even in context lol; that or I'm missing something

-vote Fm whitebeard

all citizen claimers are scums.

The main post that made me suspicious of him. I find it hard to believe a Town would say this at all.

this is our lynch priority imo

#1: Cp9
#2 Pirates
#3 Marines

We are more likely to win if we side with the rebels. The pirates will become our allies if we get recruited and there is no scenario where Cp9 will ever become our ally. I think we should go for Cp9 first and then the pirates.

You will allways be a Cp9 target even if you get recruited. Unlike pirates

Putting Marines on lynch priority at all screams out Pirate or Rebel
Sounds a LOT like Rebel, but way too obvious that it makes me think he's a Pirate wifoming Rebel to avoid lynch

Jewelry is a Faction member/Ghost or jester

I would like to hear reasoning behind Ghost/Jester, Bonney wasn't trolling in the slightest (iirc) before this post.

-vote Fm Jewelry Bonney

[FM Blackbeard]

What are we using to encrypt it?

[FM Whitebeard]

I've never really understood how those encryptions they use for disguiser checks worked. I mean, I'm sure they're usually genuine because the people who use them usually flip town roles, but I can't tell if someone really solved the encryption or if they just made some plausible sense out of nonsense (which scum could do too). If enough people confirm though, then I'll take their word for it.

Maybe that means I haven't done my homework, but so be it.

[FM Straw Hat Luffy]

-vote FM Cyborg Franky

No use waiting for an AFK so I say we move on to another person...
FIRE FIST ACE!

I have nicely compiled his posts for everyone, and hope that there is some pressure on him when he comes back




I can't say much about this without being a hypocrite, but the main difference between me and him random voting was that I immediately changed to vote to someone who sheeped the vote (usually a scumtell)



This doesn't make sense even in context lol; that or I'm missing something



The main post that made me suspicious of him. I find it hard to believe a Town would say this at all.



Putting Marines on lynch priority at all screams out Pirate or Rebel
Sounds a LOT like Rebel, but way too obvious that it makes me think he's a Pirate wifoming Rebel to avoid lynch



I would like to hear reasoning behind Ghost/Jester, Bonney wasn't trolling in the slightest (iirc) before this post.

Even if Franky is AFK, we all agreed to lynch/Pressure him. Why do you want us all to change target?
Are you trying to protect Franky by pointing out someone else?

[FM Capone Bege]

naw I'm not asking you guys to change votes or anything, I'm just pointing out that we don't need to be waiting for an inactive, we can be working on someone else. Tunneling is bad practice.

I don't consider Ace an inactive since he has a decent number of posts.
chances are, Ace is going to start posting before Franky anyways.

[FM Blackbeard]

I've never really understood how those encryptions they use for disguiser checks worked. I mean, I'm sure they're usually genuine because the people who use them usually flip town roles, but I can't tell if someone really solved the encryption or if they just made some plausible sense out of nonsense (which scum could do too). If enough people confirm though, then I'll take their word for it.

Maybe that means I haven't done my homework, but so be it.

Encryption like that is almost impossible to decode b/c it's done by a machine based on a specific keyword/phrase/jibblejabble. So there there are near infinite keys to use, only a few possible that would lead to anything coherent, and anyone can check the validity by decrypting it themselves with the same key. But as I said, IDK if it changes on what website we are using, and it should probably be the same for everyone

[FM Blackbeard]

*be the same website

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

Hi everyone. May I propose a strategy against disguiser? I have always wanted to try this for a long time. Eveyone should think about real words to be used as password and key to encrypt the password. For example, my password is "bestmafiaplayer" and my key is "win". Thus my code will be:

bestmafiaplayer
winwinwinwinwin
yngqvocromuovnf

It will also be useful against Ventriloquist. Happy coding.

here's a hint to how this thing works

b+w = y
2+23=25

e+i = n
5+9=14

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

I've never really understood how those encryptions they use for disguiser checks worked. I mean, I'm sure they're usually genuine because the people who use them usually flip town roles, but I can't tell if someone really solved the encryption or if they just made some plausible sense out of nonsense (which scum could do too). If enough people confirm though, then I'll take their word for it.

Maybe that means I haven't done my homework, but so be it.

people who encrypt won't be targeted by disguiser/ventriloquist. its a deterrent to nullify their night actions, if they have any.

[FM Blackbeard]

here's a hint to how this thing works

b+w = y
2+23=25

e+i = n
5+9=14

Do you have to do this by hand? Boring.