Catholics and sex, need some insight (NSFW)

[Necroplant]

You've been warned, there will be some mature subject matter, and I'll try to keep it as clean as possible.




If a girl says she's Catholic, does that mean no sex until marriage? She can dress provocatively when going out with friends, and say "I just want to look good."? Or do some people claim to be Catholic, but skip on the no-sex part and embrace the other aspects like Communion and such?

For example, a lot of the protestors in the Egyptian Revolution of 2011 were Muslim, but they also decided to rape a lot of women, all of them being non-related and not married to them. Does this mean they can still go to prayer?

One player I was chatting with in SC2 said that he's Catholic, and I inquired him on this subject. He confirmed the "No sex until marriage" rule, but didn't really want to directly answer the "No masturbation" inquiry. Do you think he's just ashamed that he's not following his religious doctrine to the letter?

Then again, it's just a damn book. We're lucky that these days you can do whatever you want without fear of being burned alive.

A Feast for Crows quotation:

Sam Tarly: "You do not understand. Last night we..."

Kojja: "...honored your dead, and the gods who made you both. Xhondo did the same. I had the child, else I would have been with him. All you Westerosi make a shame of loving. There is no shame in loving. If your septons say there is, your seven gods must be demons. In the isles we know better. Our gods gave us legs to run with, noses to smell with, hands to touch and feel. What mad cruel god would give a man eyes and tell him he must forever keep them shut, and never look at all the beauty in the world? Only a monster god, a demon of the darkness." Kojja put her hand between Sam's legs. "The gods gave you this for a reason too, for...what is your Westerosi word?"

[Ash]

why are you specific and say "Catholics". why not Christians in general?

[tiloup1441]

Wait, what? samwell tarly the obese gets laid? the fuck

[Necroplant]

why are you specific and say "Catholics". why not Christians in general?

You can't really generalize, because the Orthodox Church was Christian too, but that didn't stop the Crusaders from sacking it on the way to the Holy Land now, did it? Let's not get off-topic now.

If you join a religious club, you're going to be faced with rules that they cannot enforce in a private household.

[Voss]

the Orthodox Church IS Christian, just like the Catholics, or Protestants. I don't understand the distinction on Catholics in specific, other than Necro's example was Catholic

[FYRE]

Tonnes of people say they're Catholic and then do whatever they want, its extremely common.

Catholics do whatever the fuck the Pope says is okay. Since he recently changed his view on condoms, I'd say most Catholics choose themselves what they think about masturbation.

[FYRE]

the Orthodox Church IS Christian, just like the Catholics, or Protestants. I don't understand the distinction on Catholics in specific, other than Necro's example was Catholic

Catholics and Protestants are very different in their beliefs. It's like saying an oven and a dishwasher are the same, because they're both appliances.

[Necroplant]

Catholics and Protestants are very different in their beliefs. It's like saying an oven and a dishwasher are the same, because they're both appliances.

There wouldn't have been a war between England and Spain if they could both agree on common belief.

I was reading a forum where it says it's possible never to masturbate, even as a man. I've never tried this or even felt like attempting it. The Catholic argument is "Masturbation is a form of release of spirtual energy, but you can retain a lot more spiritual energy by not doing it." At the same time, any brush against your penis is going to be extra-sensitive.

I also knew a Christian girl who was waiting until sex for marriage, but had a lot of experience with anal. She let me do things to her that way. Sorry mods, I know this is getting a bit dirty.

That's a form of cheating God, isn't it?

[FYRE]

There wouldn't have been a war between England and Spain if they could both agree on common belief.

I was reading a forum where it says it's possible never to masturbate, even as a man. I've never tried this or even felt like attempting it. The Catholic argument is "Masturbation is a form of release of spirtual energy, but you can retain a lot more spiritual energy by not doing it." At the same time, any brush against your penis is going to be extra-sensitive.

I also knew a Christian girl who was waiting until sex for marriage, but had a lot of experience with anal. She let me do things to her that way. Sorry mods, I know this is getting a bit dirty.

That's a form of cheating God, isn't it?

Cheating God? How do you mean?

[Apocist]

Cheating God? How do you mean?

Cheating god as in finding a means of bypassing the rules by going anal instead.

[FYRE]

Cheating god as in finding a means of bypassing the rules by going anal instead.

I didn't realise you were taking the Catholic view as God's rules in a discussion about Protestantism/Catholicism/Islamd as the rules. Also the only person to mention it in the Bible was Paul, so I'm a bit confused on what you mean still lol.

[Glip]

You've been warned, there will be some mature subject matter, and I'll try to keep it as clean as possible.




If a girl says she's Catholic, does that mean no sex until marriage? She can dress provocatively when going out with friends, and say "I just want to look good."? Or do some people claim to be Catholic, but skip on the no-sex part and embrace the other aspects like Communion and such?

For example, a lot of the protestors in the Egyptian Revolution of 2011 were Muslim, but they also decided to rape a lot of women, all of them being non-related and not married to them. Does this mean they can still go to prayer?

One player I was chatting with in SC2 said that he's Catholic, and I inquired him on this subject. He confirmed the "No sex until marriage" rule, but didn't really want to directly answer the "No masturbation" inquiry. Do you think he's just ashamed that he's not following his religious doctrine to the letter?

Then again, it's just a damn book. We're lucky that these days you can do whatever you want without fear of being burned alive.

A Feast for Crows quotation:

Sam Tarly: "You do not understand. Last night we..."

Kojja: "...honored your dead, and the gods who made you both. Xhondo did the same. I had the child, else I would have been with him. All you Westerosi make a shame of loving. There is no shame in loving. If your septons say there is, your seven gods must be demons. In the isles we know better. Our gods gave us legs to run with, noses to smell with, hands to touch and feel. What mad cruel god would give a man eyes and tell him he must forever keep them shut, and never look at all the beauty in the world? Only a monster god, a demon of the darkness." Kojja put her hand between Sam's legs. "The gods gave you this for a reason too, for...what is your Westerosi word?"

It is important to remember that one of the central tenets of the Catholic faith that it is impossible to follow all the rules all the time. Everyone sins.

Ideally, no Catholic would have sex before marriage, but I'll guarantee you it happens.

A Catholic girl can dress provocatively and say she just wants to look good, but more likely than not she's lying.

The answer to your third question is yes, most definitely. You need look no further than our own forums here to see proof of that.

I can't speak about Muslims, as I am not a Muslim.

I can almost guarantee you that the person you spoke to was simply ashamed of his actions.

FYI, the "no sex rule" applies to all forms of sex, whether it be anal, oral, vaginal, or mutual masturbation, or whatever other sexual act you can think of. You aren't cheating God by having anal sex.

[Apocist]

Honestly..now your confusing me...

I was defending necro's post on:

There wouldn't have been a war between England and Spain if they could both agree on common belief.

I was reading a forum where it says it's possible never to masturbate, even as a man. I've never tried this or even felt like attempting it. The Catholic argument is "Masturbation is a form of release of spirtual energy, but you can retain a lot more spiritual energy by not doing it." At the same time, any brush against your penis is going to be extra-sensitive.

I also knew a Christian girl who was waiting until sex for marriage, but had a lot of experience with anal. She let me do things to her that way. Sorry mods, I know this is getting a bit dirty.

That's a form of cheating God, isn't it?

Him talking about a 'Christian girl who was waiting until sex for marriage', but this girl would do anal instead. So basically she's having sex, thus, cheating that rule of no sex until marriage thing(Honestly, I don't know the rules)

[Necroplant]

Honestly..now your confusing me...

I was defending necro's post on:



Him talking about a 'Christian girl who was waiting until sex for marriage', but this girl would do anal instead. So basically she's having sex, thus, cheating that rule of no sex until marriage thing(Honestly, I don't know the rules)

Yes you're right, as Bible language tends to be very generalize/ambiguous and therefore the "safest" definition is all forms of sex. So even your hand wandering while sleeping should warrant an amputation.

The user who started it was DarkestLight, a SC2 Mafia player. He first claimed that he was a Jew when I was discussing criticism of the situation in the Holy Land, and I decided to interrogate him on treatment of Palestinians. He claims that they're all murderous assholes, but then I defeated him by getting him to admit that white phosphorous is a worse weapon than a Katyusha rocket.

Then he admitted he's not Jewish, but Catholic.

Question about masturbation in general: if you never masturbate, then isn't any contact with the penis quite intense? I mean, the Pope must shower/bathe himself, and it's inevitable he'd have to clean his privates. Plus the Pope was young once, and he actually served Hitler during WW2, so he must have been less-than-holy back then too.

The Pope should be allowed to do whatever he wants with his own peener, and I'm sure he does.

Imagine if we let Catholic priests marry/date, then there'd be a lot less molestation.

[Nick]

Humans are hypocrites. Enuff said.

It's just more obvious when you group them according to religion, culture, race or nationality.

[Necroplant]

Humans are hypocrites. Enuff said.

It's just more obvious when you group them according to religion, culture, race or nationality.

Yes I agree in the respect that you can't say one "people" are more bad than another.

One figure I've been reading about recently is Al-Saladin, the Saracen leader during the Crusades, and he was possibly the best man to be captured by in history. He treated captives like he would treat his friends, and he was truly chivalrous ironically, as the Christian knights were rarely chivalrous to captured Arabs.

But even today, every Arabic nation spits on his memory with their national AND religious policies. They even dare to name universities and institutions after him, and to be fair, the universities aren't the ones causing the oppression - rather they're centers of enlightenment. But a lot of Arabic governments look to him purely as a military conqueror, rather than one of the nicest men there ever was on the planet.

[JSaint]

Well, off topic. Any woman can be bedded if the time and moment is right. With enough technique and skill to make the moment feel right.

Doesn't matter with denomination. Well Necroplant buddy, you just gotta set the mood and make her feel horny or into you .

I'm not going to go into the details, since it seems I am still only on the edge of casting of my christianity but never really could to actually execute these techniques, but if you are interested in knowing, you can find easily ^_~.

I'm guessing you started this thread with more than the motivation of an intellectual discussion. I think dealing with intellectual barriers when trying to bed a woman is the wrong way to go. You are gonna need to change your angle =)

Regarding Saladin, few people are really remembered for the nice things they do or their benevolence in this world. Ultimately it's the results they produce or what they can do in the end. Honourable people tend to die young from being backstabbed and taken advantage of half the time.It's cruel, but I'm sad to say it's a fact.

P.S You are a smart cookie. Have you resumed your studies somehow? Still working at Macs?