If both creed and jr are mafia, creed would be the better lynch since he is more active, the less active mafia will be more prone to slips.
If both creed and jr are mafia, creed would be the better lynch since he is more active, the less active mafia will be more prone to slips.
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"Glory only with zerglings and breast implants!!!"
-Random player on EU
Unless Jr4Life24 is the consort. However, I think that creed has more probability of being the consort. Also, you do make a good point of Creedkingsx being more active and cause more distractions for the town. What I want to know is how likely is it to you that Creedkingsx is mafia?
I would like everyone to tell me how likely they think Creedkingsx is mafia. No answering will lead to further speculation of possible ties between those who do not reply and the suspect.![]()
This is my last post before I head to sleep, but I personally am only sure of jr being mafia so far, if he roles mafia I would suspect creed next however.
Spoiler : :
"Glory only with zerglings and breast implants!!!"
-Random player on EU
You remind me of myself, now, actually.
Sheeping the new people to follow your words.
A question like, "How likely is it that person X is mafia?" is a completely loaded question that anyone with half a mind can see through.
What an awfully scummy thing for you to say, the wording, that is.
And the smiles suggest confidence in trickery. They suggest you are proud of having effectively accomplished something that you weren't sure you could do at the beginning of the day. That something being leading the town into a lynch against their own.
The fact of the matter is that you are overly confident in what you have presented. Sure, you have written a lot but it is easy to write 4 paragraphs of fluff that boil down to basically saying, "I want town to lynch creed because that means I win."
Let me ask you this.
At what point have you addressed anyone other than myself today with a serious inquire? You haven't actually seriously thought of what everyone else has had to say, little it may be and minimal has been posted, but you have addressed nothing important to anyone but me. It suggests you went into this day with 1 goal. Get me lynched.
Tunnel vision is a very bad thing.
We look through the past and see lots of people who have tunnel visioned people and it led to the demise of the town. Why, our fair Damus strived to fit in with the community to the point where he tunneled who to follow. And he received his fair share of abuse from those who he decided to only listen to.
Blazer has been tunnel visioned a few times and it, would have, led to the demise of town in FM12.
Clementine gets tunnel visioned in almost every game she plays. If she isn't dead by the first night, she is lynched. Nobody chooses to explore other options.
I urge the town to consider Chiller and consider me. His evidence is simply based on the fact that I want to lynch fatalis, a lynch I have brought actual evidence to the table for wanting, over Jr, someone who replaced someone who was afk the whole first day and IMMEDIATELY replaced. Yet, somehow, someone who claims to be a citizen know for absolute sure is mafia.
Want to know why he wants Jr out of the picture? Because Jr claimed citizen, the role Chiller claimed which is a classic go to role for mafia.
I would normally take this time to push for a lynch on chiller, but I more comfortable with lynching Fatalis because of 2 things:
1. If I switch to Chiller, the obvious choice for him would be to go for the, "oh, vote for your accuser." It doesn't particularly matter which mafia we get, Fatalis and Chiller are both mafia in my eyes. So I am fine with Fatalis, still.
2. I have more reasons to think Fatalis is evil. I have listed them previously, and it would be a waste of my sleepy time, which I do oh so enjoy, to re-type them out as this has gone on long enough.
You have to decide, town. I leave this in your hands as I go to sleep. If you choose to lynch me, you are bad at life. lololjkiwubewe<3
Really wish TDL would have checked Jr. >.<
So far your defense is this, tunnel vision is bad (which I proved I wasn't doing), trying to make me look like scum and discredit my analysis, and Meta Game combined with your "evidence" against Fatalis. You decide to try and discredit my analysis while providing hardly anything for evidence. How disappointing. You could at least drop Fatalis for now and notice how scummy Jr4life24 is. If you want to have a Me vs You vote for lynch today go for it. I think that I can defend myself fully and have provided enough to show everyone that you are most likely mafia.
I find it interesting how as soon as I ask the question "How likely is Creedkingsx to be mafia?" to the public you get defensive and target me. Wouldn't that be a classic thing to do as scum? I mean it's just a simple question. After responses I could ask the same about Jr4life24. I'm just trying to get feedback here. I'm getting quite a bit back from you, which I like! It help build up my theory about you being mafia. The more information I have to work with the better! Thanks for finally taking the time to try and come up with something for me to read and hold a conversation about. This is the biggest reply I've had to work with all day. I wish we had more posts like this. Bundles of information inside.
Clearly targeting you by how I voted you. :o
I want to hear from the other. Let's face it, we have both heard enough from each other, we can sit here and ridicule each other all we want, exclaiming each other didn't do this or ignored this or that and the other, but the result ends the same.
So let's hear what other think.
You think I am scum, I know you are scum with fatalis.
As I have stated before I am a doctor
My night action for last night... I didn't do any action, I'm really sorry. I really forgot about sending it, I have been extremely busy as next week is my finals. I'm sorry that I haven't been able to play my best lately,
As for not being active, I have school for 9 hours, I sleep for about 9 hours, combined with other activities, and the fact that I have a different timezone, I can't be as active as what I would like to be.
My primary FOS is Creed, Jr4life and Mintberry Crunch
Creed= I am a doctor so I highly doubt anybody who claims that role besides myself, he is VERY DETERMINED to lynch me because he knows that today, if we mislynch, mafia will win definitely. Post #504 is very scummy to me, it looks like a very intellectual analysis but it's mostly based on meta + I have noticed that most scum goes like " I won't spend time posting more of my taughts because blablabla ", as they are not really interested in giving more leads to the town.
Jr4life= The fact that he claimed citizen very late and is one of the least active player = obvious scum in my eyes. Backed by the fact that Creed defends him, I am sure that both of them are scum.
Mint= as a doctor I doubt there would be more than 2 protective roles in a 1 scum KPN 10 player game. He also is relatively inactive
-vote jr4life24
I am SURE he is scum
You are targeting with accusations. Those carry meanings besides votes. Challenging someone like you did and providing "evidence" is targeting them. It was a nice effort though. It's a shame you don't have anything else to try and discuss with me. I guess you didn't prepare well enough.
Yes I have been pushing to hear from others for a while now.
I will prepare the inquisition for Fatalis once I get some time.
Tally has Jr4Life24 at L-1.
Actually he is at L-2.
You changed your vote.
As expected of fatalis to come on and mat the bulk of his post aimed at me and immediately agreeing with Chiller.
The school excuse is complete bullshit because I am have classes as well, 12 credit hours, and work and I still find time to be on here.
Clementine is on like 9 different forum mafia sites, has class and work and she has time.
Cryptonic plays and hosts, has class and work and has time to play well.
I am sorry, but the "oh I was at class so I can never play," excuse is just that, an excuse, that ever scum player uses.
A different timezone doesn't affect anything at all. The Day is still open for the same amount of time anywhere in the world. An hour in USA is still and hour in China, so try again.
It is expected for Fatalis and Chiller to buddy together, as stated they are both mafia, and defending each other directly. Don't know how apparent this would have been to Chiller, but to Fatalis and whoever their extra friend is, they would assume me to be the biggest threat during the day and best use of a day lynch in their eyes.
Especially after Troll Saves pt 1 with fatalis.
I leave my vote as is.
@Chiller I don;t need to prepare when I am already innocent. You apparently did. Wonder why?
I can't understand your logic
do maths for fuckiing sake
9 hours for school + 9 hours for sleep= 18 hours
that's only 6 hours left for me
take 1 hour of for you know, doing other things not related to mafia
5 hours, 5 hours where most players are inactive, I will talk much more when there are players which are also talking rather than when i'm on my own
I can't post while I'm at school since my phone can't post here due to the anti spam and I can't post while I'm sleeping obviously..
Take some of your time to look back at the previous days in this and other S-FMs. I post in the exact timeframe in each game everyday except during hollidays
REALISE THAT PEOPLE HAVE REAL LIFE THINGS, OF COURSE YOU CAN'T PLAY WHILE YOUR AT CLASS
I don't defend Chiller, I agree with his actions, I stated who I found likely to be scum
Stop using bullshit reasons
isn't it obvious how you are defending Jr4life heavily yourself? Even though so much player suspects him
I'm really not. lol
I am targeting you and Chiller.
I've actually hardly mentioned Jr and when I did, it was me listing him as a possible scum. :P
I re-iterate, as I seem to need to do every single game.
l2read, pls.
I implore you to find a single post where I said anything along the lines of Jr is not scum.
Literally, I challenge you where I said those words.
Don't even have to be the exact words, something that has that general idea.
And before you make yourself look stupider, learn the difference between saying you are scummier than him and "Jr is not scum."
Btw, the difference is both of you are scummy, just the you are more scummy.
There's 5 town left, right? We could just not lynch today and be down to 4v3 Tommorow if we really can't decide a person, though that makes things even more stressful...
And I'd probably be murdered or roleblocked anyway
Spoiler : :
"Glory only with zerglings and breast implants!!!"
-Random player on EU
Don't get me wrong though, I want to see jr lynched today as he is top of my scum biscuits
Spoiler : :
"Glory only with zerglings and breast implants!!!"
-Random player on EU
no, it is 4v3 right now, which is why this lynch is so crucial. No action means we lose and a wrong action means we lose.
I am heading to bed.
I am leaving my vote where it is.
Goodnight, sorry if I seemed overly aggressive to you fatalis, my mind is cluttered. Need a breather.
Ugh I forgot about the day shoot for a minute.
Though the sheer fact jr hasn't been lynched yet since I voted him and I am town makes me almost certain he's mafia, since the mafia would have hopped on a lynch train if he was town.
Spoiler : :
"Glory only with zerglings and breast implants!!!"
-Random player on EU
If you want me to lynch Jr, I need to feel comfortable with it. At a time like this where it is literally make or break, everyone has to feel 100% sure on who to lynch.< Implies that you don't think that he is scum
This is sorta-doing that
Also saying that I'm more likely to be scum than jr more or less also relates to the fact that you don't really think that he is scum
You didn't prepare your "evidence" well enough is what I meant. Your defense is still horrible but I was referencing your targeting me. Which you finally admitted to. Thanks!@Chiller I don;t need to prepare when I am already innocent. You apparently did. Wonder why?
If by prepare, you meant my accusations, of course I did. I spent a lot of time analyzing details and tried to put something together. After that everything fell into place when you opened your mouth.
If you mean my defense, I guess it would be considered an offensive defense. However, I started these accusations against you before you even targeted me. So I'm not sure that qualifies as a defense. If it does just read about how I prepared my accusations and there's my prepared defense.
Ok I see, "They are buddyiing" when I haven't defended him and he hasn't defended me. Like he stated we just both agree you are likely mafia. Besides that I think Jr4Life24 is more likely Mafia than Fatalis is. I have provided my analysis on both of their possibilities of being Mafia. No one has found error in it and others agree that Jr4Life24 is likely mafia as well. Now I see you claiming to be the victim. "Oh I'm the biggest threat to the Mafia." Yeah, sure you are. If anything they would try to lynch the Doctor (Fatalis) or Mintberry (The Real Bodyguard?) or Me (The Person Who Restricting Their Actions). Finally, all I see is Meta Game this and that. That is not evidence at all. Games are unique and independent from one another. You can't use that for any logical basis in this game. It's like trying to use a musket instead of an M16. It's old and people have gotten better/changed playing styles from that. It's old and outdated. Use how the player are currently acting analyze that and only compare that to what has happened within the game. This should be obvious. You still have yet to provide any "evidence" that I or Fatalis is Mafia. Good luck finding some!It is expected for Fatalis and Chiller to buddy together, as stated they are both mafia, and defending each other directly. Don't know how apparent this would have been to Chiller, but to Fatalis and whoever their extra friend is, they would assume me to be the biggest threat during the day and best use of a day lynch in their eyes.
Especially after Troll Saves pt 1 with fatalis.
My sentiments exactly.Stop using bullshit reasons
isn't it obvious how you are defending Jr4life heavily yourself? Even though so much player suspects himAccording to your logic, if I am defending Fatalis you are defending Jr4Life24. -l2logic please. -I'm really not. lol
I am targeting you and Chiller.
I've actually hardly mentioned Jr and when I did, it was me listing him as a possible scum. :P
I re-iterate, as I seem to need to do every single game.
l2read, pls.
Thanks for admitting you are targeting us. If I was you in this situation I would go "Creedskingsx is tunneling me. That means I'm innocent and he's guilty. I rest my case."
Correct. I will try and prepare another set of night actions today. Hopefully the lynching goes well and we can catch our suspects tonight.no, it is 4v3 right now, which is why this lynch is so crucial. No action means we lose and a wrong action means we lose.
Yes. The question I am having is if we should lynch him or Creedkingsx though. I think mostly everyone agrees they are mafia. I think Creedkingsx has a better chance of being Consort while Jr4Life24 has a better chance of being Mafioso. Both lynches would help town, but the Consort would help even more. I'm not sure we would be able to shift fast enough to Creedkingsx though.Though the sheer fact jr hasn't been lynched yet since I voted him and I am town makes me almost certain he's mafia, since the mafia would have hopped on a lynch train if he was town.
Recommended Night Actions:
Mintberry on Roflcoptor, Fatalis on Chiller, Creedkingsx on TheDarkestLight, Roflcoptor follows TheDarkestLight, and TheDarkestLight investigates Creedkingsx.
In this scenario if Creedkingsx is the Consort he will be forced to kill and not Roleblock. This will let Roflcoptor check to see if our investigator is what he claims. All of the roles should be protected by the claims of each player. 3 Protective claims, if one of us dies there is your mafia. (Roflcoptor being on TheDarkestLight will prevent someone from being framed. So Creedkingsx will be forced to kill.) If the suspects we believe are mafia are not mafia, then the others who would be the mafia are forced to choose from a limited selection since they know where the real protective roles will be. This will clear up the mess of who is what with the multiple claims.
If Creedkingsx is not the consort, Roflcoptor may be blocked and be prevented from checking TheDarkestLight. This will leave the protective roles able to save those who are in danger. If one of those protected dies, we will have a confirmed role and more to work with OR if one who was protected was attacked Roflcoptor can follow TheDarkestLight since the protective role would have to have been roleblocked. This leaves him open to check to see if TheDarkestLight is the killer.
These scenarios are based off of my assumption as Creedkingsx being Mafia - Consort/? and TheDarkestLight being Mafia - Consigliere/?. If neither of these is the case, the night actions also provide a net to trap those who would actually commit the crime. I greatly implore everyone to follow these night actions to the letter. Deviating will likely cost the game for the town.
-Vote Jr4Life24
Is no one going to talk for the rest of the day? I feel like I'm hosting a party over here and the only one attending![]()
I just got my keyboard working, and I agree with the night actions.
I wonder whos smurf you are.
Spoiler : :
"Glory only with zerglings and breast implants!!!"
-Random player on EU
If he flips citizen, it's gg lol.
Spoiler : :
"Glory only with zerglings and breast implants!!!"
-Random player on EU
So if he is mafia who is going to be checkered tonight (I suspect creed is other mafia if Jr was)
tl;dr what are night actions gonna be tonight?
Your excuse for who to check is weak. I posted the night action assignments before AppleyNO closed the thread. I also posted it in a different color. Kind of hard to miss.Recommended Night Actions:
Mintberry on Roflcoptor, Fatalis on Chiller, Creedkingsx on TheDarkestLight, Roflcoptor follows TheDarkestLight, and TheDarkestLight investigates Creedkingsx.
If three citizens would make you lose your mind, then why haven't you targeted me? I claimed citizen and 2 people are dead.
The actions in cyan are for tonight. I was referring to the ones in white on the previous day in the post before this.
Can the mafia target themselves?
ie: a consort targetting a framer
Spoiler : :
"Glory only with zerglings and breast implants!!!"
-Random player on EU
You know if he is Mafia we need to get as much communication needed to find the next two, and just a foot note, there are no Consigliere's to the best of my knowledge, and if there is he isn't me. Just clearing that up. Although I do doubt a third Citizen, I doubt two Mafia would claim Citizen, so that lessens my suspicion.
-Night Two-
Night will end at this time.
There she is! GET HER!
Jr4life, now exposed as Clementine, was sprinting, trying to get away from the Moderators, which were encircling her. Then she tripped.
It was over, with Chiller delivering the final blow.
2 Playmaf Mods were left, but at least the town could take a breather, or could they?
JR4LIFE24 HAS BEEN LYNCHED! HIS ROLE WAS CONSORT, CLEMENTINE.
Players:
1. Rolfcopter
2. Mintberry Crunch
5. creedkingsx
6. TheDarkestLight
7. Fatalis
10. Chiller
Epolouge
"AppleyNO! We need to move to a safer location and plan our ne-"
"MUSO NO! WHERE ARE -"
Out of the shadows oops_ur_dead stepped out, shotgun in hand.
The rebellion is over. The Town has won!
I'll post the role list when I get home.
The Mafia were
creedkingsx as AppleyNO the Framer
Jr4life24 as Clementine the Consort
MintBerry Crunch as Muso the Consigliere.
I'll post more awards a little later, but the MVP is Chiller.
Good Game everyone.
GG, and now... who shot me in the ass d1?
G: 15 | W: 13 | MVP: 2S-FM Casino: Town (WIN) S-FM BSDL:Detective (WIN)S-FM PCS: Subject X (Arsonist) (WIN/MVP) S-FM Mani: Citizen (WIN) FM-XV Rebel/Haunter (WIN) S-FM Prelude: doctor (WIN/MVP) S-FM HotD: (town/loss) S-FM L&D: Lookout (WIN) S-FM BL: Framer (WIN) M-FM XIII Vigilante/Subject XVI (WIN/MVRIP) S-FM SE: Mafioso: (WIN) S-FM Flashmob 1: Doctor (Win) Fmob 2: SK (Coulda/Woulda/Shoulda) S-FM BT: Sheriff (WIN) S-FM Websites: Citizen (WIN)
Good Game! I was curious if I was being overly suspicious of TheDarkestLight haha.
Well played everyone!
I drastically underestimated Chiller going into this game. I don't know if you are a smurf or what, but I generally assume that all new people aren't very good at this which was a huge oversight on my part.
Although, it would have been nice to not have been mafia with two teammates that couldn't manage themselves.
No offense to JR since he got handed a bad situation, but the bulk of what happened Day 2, he was gone for.
Chiller.
I love how you play this game and I excitedly look forward to playing FMs with you in the furture. Players like you make me love playing mafia. Your posts all held logic and reasoning and you were able to counter nearly everything that the mafia had brought to the table with cool logic and the foresight to see through their posts. You picked up on a lot of drops on the mafia side and successfully took up the mantle of town leader despite the grievous situation. Bravo and well done.
Chane
I hope now you learn that your current behavior needs to stop and you take both d1 and the game seriously. You are not superman and while I clearly have no right to berate your performance I do have the advice to give to you and that advice is this: please be more serious and take notice of the warnings people give you in the future.
Now other than that GG everyone.
IMO Chiller was the only player on the Towns side that played well and because of that I thought that the Mafia would win regardless as to who is on their team. I'm glad that the Town pulled together under Chiller to win the game.
GG