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[creedkingsx]

There is a slim chance we are BG, but that's not an option that needs exploring until tomorrow.
In the mean time, that is why I said 2 of the mafia are probably among Brendan, Glip and Fatalis.

[Jim]

I was about to say Rofl only has 6 on the list but then I remembered that Chane died and he was taken out of it. (should put him on but with the arrow through his name)

So my thought is that one of the people claiming town is a lier and 2 people that are on our scum list are scum.

[Chiller]

There is a slim chance we are BG, but that's not an option that needs exploring until tomorrow.
In the mean time, that is why I said 2 of the mafia are probably among Brendan, Glip and Fatalis.

Why is that there?

I'm glad that we are actually starting to talk and get a decent discussion going. I will try and catch up on everything that I missed.

[Jim]

Why is that there?

I'm glad that we are actually starting to talk and get a decent discussion going. I will try and catch up on everything that I missed.

Because two of us have claimed BG so far thats why he said we I think.

[creedkingsx]

Why is that there?

I'm glad that we are actually starting to talk and get a decent discussion going. I will try and catch up on everything that I missed.

Mintberry and I are 2 people.
We both are claiming BG.
We is the plural of a group of people in which I am categorized with, being that we both claim BG.
Therefore, my statement is: There is a slim chance we are BG's.
:P

[Chiller]

Ok so unless I missed something there hasn't been a claim from Glip or Fatalis.

Rofcoptor Claimed Detective
MintBerry Claimed Bodyguard
Damus Claimed Vigilante
Creedkingsx Claimed Vigilante and then Bodyguard
The Darkest Light Claimed Investigator? (I saw this on a roles list but I didn't see his post..Could you verify this The Darkest Light?)
Brendan Claimed Mafia and then Claimed Doctor.
I Claimed Citizen
Chane IS Citizen

Questions:
Creedkingsx could you explain in detail, one more time, why you chose to claim Vigilante and then suddenly switch to Bodyguard as soon as Damus said he would suicide? Would also enlighten me as to why you voted me when you suspected Chane of being more sinister than I?
Mintberry what do you think of Creeds claim? If Brendan is claiming doctor do you think that he is indeed doctor? Do you think Creed would be another Bodyguard to offer 3 protective roles?
TheDarkestLight did you in fact claim investigator?
Damus_Graves what do you think of Creeds claim as a Vigilante at first and then his switch to Bodyguard? Do you think he memorized the rolecard's options so that he could claim it effectively and deceive us? Then in fear of you suiciding and him getting caught he switched to Bodyguard? Why did you shoot Chane over me Damus?


Glip has yet to post. Fatalis has contributed virtually nothing. Perhaps their silence is a sign of them being scum without anything to claim? I would normally suspect an active contributor to be mafia, such as Creedkingsx who would slightly divert and yet blend in with the day discussion. If any of you have any material to present for analysis please do so. For now, I am still suspicious of Creedkingsx but would like a claim from Fatalis and Glip.

Thoughts?

[Chiller]

To be technically correct I guess I should include that Creedkingsx claimed Mafia (With Damus_Graves and Roflcoptor) first and then Vigilante and the Bodyguard. See Post #7

I believe there was at least one scum who tested the waters and legitimately claimed scum. Whether it be Creedkingsx or Brendan.

[Damus_Graves]

-vote Brendan

[Damus_Graves]

what do you think of Creeds claim as a Vigilante at first and then his switch to Bodyguard? Do you think he memorized the rolecard's options so that he could claim it effectively and deceive us? Then in fear of you suiciding and him getting caught he switched to Bodyguard? Why did you shoot Chane over me Damus?

You need to start reading.

I flipping answered this shit already

[Jim]

Uhhh I think everyone claimed mafia in the beggining of this day before Chiller tried to make it meaning full.

[Damus_Graves]

Fine I'll answer it again

Creed claimed Vigilante to avoid dying. While I cc'd him he spent time to test me being town aligned or not. I passed his test with the willingness to suicide to prove I am town and help others to not waste time on me and to find real scum faster.
Creed lurks more when he is scum and He and I both know this. I believe he is town for the moment. WIFOM and all that. I didn't read the setup fully enough. Creed will read it and refer back to it consistently.
He knows that we will swiftly be in a precarious position if I suicide, we mislynch, and mafia kills. He does not want me to just give the game away.
I shot Chane because I didn't want that guys scumacting to lure a Framer onto him and cause an Investigator to push a mislynch on him.
NEVER ACT LIKE SCUM WHEN YOU ARE CITIZEN

[Chiller]

That was quick change of mind Damus. Thank you for cooperating. I like direct questions with direct answers.

Mintberry please answer the questions in full. I would like to know what you think about Brendan's doctor claim and the possibility of that being a legitimate claim.

[Damus_Graves]

GLIP IS FUCKING SCUM!

[creedkingsx]

Creedkingsx could you explain in detail, one more time, why you chose to claim Vigilante and then suddenly switch to Bodyguard as soon as Damus said he would suicide? Would also enlighten me as to why you voted me when you suspected Chane of being more sinister than I?

I already explained myself.
Twice.
Damus threatened of suicide for a long time before I finally switched the claim. I revealed Bodygaurd because I saw Appley viewing the thread and I wanted to make sure that Damus didn't suicide before Appley took Mint's lynch and closed the thread.
I like to vote a lot at the beginning of days to test and overly sensitive buttons. Especially the buttons of faces none of us have seen before. New people tend to over react to a vote or two when they are scum.

[creedkingsx]

I don't enjoy explaining things multiple times because other people won't play the game they signed up for and just read. ;)

[Damus_Graves]

GLIP IS SCUM THAT GUY HAS BEEN ON AND NOT POSTED HERE!
Y SO SCUMMY GLIP!

[Damus_Graves]

vote.
glip.
with.
me.
plox.
-vote Glip

[Damus_Graves]

vote.
glip.
with.
me.
plox.
-vote Glip

[Damus_Graves]

ROFL Y DO U GOTTA USE VOTE TAGS WHEN THE HOST SAID NOT TO

[Roflcopter]

Its 100x easier to type [ vote ] than to change colors and crap

[Damus_Graves]

OK I am serious.
Give me one good reason to not post at all day 1 with all that has happened today for a townsmember

[Brendan]

Some people just have a lot of spare time on their hands...

[Roflcopter]

Brendan, ROLE CLAIM NOW> GO.

[Brendan]

I am doctor I told you already...

[Roflcopter]

Sc2mafia (Town)
Detective - Roflcopter
Investigator - TheDarkestLight
Bodyguard - Mintberry_Crunch
Doctor - Creedkingsx/Brendan
Vigilante - Damus_Graves
Citizen - Chiller


Playmaf (Mafia)
Masioso - ???
Consigliere/Consort - ???
Janitor/Framer - ???


Possible Town Roles: Citizen, Sheriff, Investigator, Detective, Lookout, Vigilante, Bodyguard, Doctor, Escort
Possible Mafia Roles: Mafioso, Consort, Consigliere, Framer, Janitor

Investigative Pairings
Citizen/Mafioso
Sheriff/Investigator/Consigliere
Vigilante/Bodyguard/Doctor/Framer
Escort/Consort
Detective/Lookout/Janitor


Yet to claim:
Glip
Fatalis

KNOWN SCUM:
At least one out of: Glip, Fatalis, Brendan
Brendan/Creed/Mintberry, one is lying/scum

[Fatalis]

HELLOOOOO

[Fatalis]

well apparently we mass role claimed, I'm yet another Doctor, I know, I know to it's very hard to trust. So you can lynch me today and let the vigi shoot one of the rest

[Fatalis]

The scummiest people for me is Mintberry Crunch, Glip and Brendan, I don't believe either of them

[Roflcopter]

Sc2mafia (Town)
Detective - Roflcopter
Investigator - TheDarkestLight
Bodyguard - Mintberry_Crunch
Doctor - Creedkingsx/Brendan/Fatalis
Vigilante - Damus_Graves
Citizen - Chiller


Playmaf (Mafia)
Masioso - ???
Consigliere/Consort - ???
Janitor/Framer - ???


Possible Town Roles: Citizen, Sheriff, Investigator, Detective, Lookout, Vigilante, Bodyguard, Doctor, Escort
Possible Mafia Roles: Mafioso, Consort, Consigliere, Framer, Janitor

Investigative Pairings
Citizen/Mafioso
Sheriff/Investigator/Consigliere
Vigilante/Bodyguard/Doctor/Framer
Escort/Consort
Detective/Lookout/Janitor


Yet to claim:
Glip

Why the fuck is every scum claiming doctor.

Fatalis/brendan, at least one of those two= scum.

[Fatalis]

-vote Brendan
It doesn't matter me or Brendan/Creed, but a lynch today on one of the doc claimers will benefit us

[AppleyNO]

The Tally

Glip (1) - Damus_Graves
Brendan (4) - Roflcopter, Mintberry Crunch, creedkingsx,Fatalis
Mintberry Crunch (2) - Chiller, TheDarkestLight

5 to Lynch OR Skip
Brendan is L-1

[Chiller]

I encourage someone to unvote and make it L-2. If I remember correctly we have ~10 hours left.

I would still like to hear more from Fatalis, Brendan, Glip, and Mintberry.

[Brendan]

lol I'm actually citizen I didn't know we were serious about claiming.

[Brendan]

I put it in the tags before too.

[Damus_Graves]

-vote Brendan

[Chiller]

Just in case the thread is locked, I recommend Mintberry protect Roflcoptor.

If Brendan flips doctor I recommend Creedkingsx on TheDarkestLight.
If Brendan flips anything else I recommend Creedkingsx on Fatalis.

I will try to get on later and finalize my thoughts.

[creedkingsx]

That's a hammer.
Odds are he flips mafia, on the off chance he flips citizen, I think we need to look at either Chiller, mintberry, or Fatalis.
TDL (TheDarkestLight from here on out) should investigate either of those three or myself if he flips citizen.
If he flips mafia, then I suggest Fatalis, mint, glip or I.

Rofl can use his detective prowess to follow up on any of our claims godfather is bound to be one of us at this point.

rofl, TDL, and Damus are basically confirmed town at this point. rofl and TDL hold the highest priority with night protection, though. (Sorry Damus, <3)
TDL more than rofl, though since TDL's can detect a lie better.

[Chiller]

So where does it say Godfather in the roles list?
How is TheDarkesLight confirmed town?

I agree with Damus_Graves and Roflcoptor pretty much being confirmed town though.

Investigator will find this: Chiller - Either cit/mafioso or a liar (reasons unknown) Mintberry - either a Vigilante/Bodyguard/Doctor/Framer or a liar. Fatalis - either Vigilante/Bodyguard/Doctor/Framer or a liar.

Results:
Chiller = useless for town. (Confirms citizen or not for Mafia - Beneficial)
Mintberry = useless for town. (Confirms as bodyguard for Mafia - Beneficial)
Fatalis = useless for town. (Confirms as doctor for Mafia - Beneficial)

The only benefit is if they get caught lying. I doubt they claimed something out of their investigative pairing. Your suggestion would work as a cover for a consigliere. Which is what TheDarkestLight is in my eyes for now.

The only beneficial results for the town is to Investigate Glip. There is likely a framer so I am going to see how that influences the results.

I would like to have Roflcoptor follow you and have you visit Glip. If the investigative result is mafia, then either you are famer (as suspected) or Glip is one of the mafia. Since you "are bodyguard" that shouldn't be a problem. We can then have both Fatalis and Mintberry on Roflcoptor. One of them is bound to be town.

Will Glip be replaced since he failed to participate in the discussion today?
How does framing effect investigative results?


So far I haven't seen anyone claim escort so Roflcoptor shouldn't be prevented from visiting Glip.

[Damus_Graves]

Consort will not claim Escort.
They will claim something like Doc/BG/Citizen and role block TDL if I am not mistaken here.

[creedkingsx]

Yeah, I don't see rofl being blocked either.
I say he is confirmed because odds are there is either a sheriff or investigator. People tend to put on of those to and either a detective or a lookout in their role lists here. It's a predictable convenience for us that I don't think hosts intend to do, but people are sheep and like to think of balanced as standard.

I believe you are talking to me when directing actions, and I don't see why me targeting glip is at all a necessity, it proves nothing. lol
Instead, you are losing a protective town role on the people that actually matter.

[Damus_Graves]

Best bet is have a BG/Doc on TDL and Rofl.
Have Detective follow Fatalis or Chiller depending on Brendans flip.
Have Inves investigate Glip or Chiller depending on Brendans flip

[creedkingsx]

I would say, if brendan flips mafia, follow Fatalis investigate Chiller
If town, follow chiller and investigate Glip

[Chiller]

Consort will not claim Escort.
They will claim something like Doc/BG/Citizen and role block TDL if I am not mistaken here.

Yes, then when they roleblock someone it will confirm the existence of a consort.

Yeah, I don't see rofl being blocked either.
I say he is confirmed because odds are there is either a sheriff or investigator. People tend to put on of those to and either a detective or a lookout in their role lists here. It's a predictable convenience for us that I don't think hosts intend to do, but people are sheep and like to think of balanced as standard.

I believe you are talking to me when directing actions, and I don't see why me targeting glip is at all a necessity, it proves nothing. lol
Instead, you are losing a protective town role on the people that actually matter.

You forget that Glip could be a Sheriff who just never played the game and decided to go inactive. I'm not convince that TheDarkestLight is town quite yet. If he is killed then I doubt there would be any other investigative role for town. That would limit the open slots on the roles list and help us determine what roles are actually implemented.

Best bet is have a BG/Doc on TDL and Rofl.
Have Detective follow Fatalis or Chiller depending on Brendans flip.
Have Inves investigate Glip or Chiller depending on Brendans flip

Don't agree with that at all. No matter what Brendan flips it shouldn't matter.

I would say, if brendan flips mafia, follow Fatalis investigate Chiller
If town, follow chiller and investigate Glip

That is a waste of night actions. Look at the results I posted above. Town gains virtually nothing involving me.

Revised Actions:
I recommend that Creedkingsx is on Roflcoptor, Roflcoptor follows Mintberry, TheDarkestLight investigates Glip, Mintberry is on TheDarkestLight, Fatalis is on Glip.

We are bound to catch a killer in that or have a successful heal. The chain leads to finding who is the source of the disturbance.

Inside are all the people who claimed roles that could be the framer. We will either get with a successful category for Glip's role or catch who deviates from the town's plan. The most important roles are protected by our claimed protectors so if anyone of them dies, we catch who lied.

The only loopholes are if TheDarkestLight is in fact mafia and lies about results, if Fatalis does not visit Damus. However, if everything goes according to plan the choices for the mafia becomes limited as to who the killer was. I could have done it, Fatalis could have done it, or Glip's new controller could be the culprit. But for a successful kill to go through without revealing a mafia member, none of us three would have to die otherwise they shorten the possible mafia list. The fact that Damus is pretty much confirmed leaves me, Glip, or Fatalis as the possible culprits. If Glip dies, we know Fatalis is the culprit. If Fatalis dies, we know Glip was the culprit. If I die, interesting things will unfold.

[Chiller]

The only loopholes are if TheDarkestLight is in fact mafia and lies about results, if Fatalis does not visit Damus. However, if everything goes according to plan the choices for the mafia becomes limited as to who the killer was. I could have done it, Fatalis could have done it, or Glip's new controller could be the culprit. But for a successful kill to go through without revealing a mafia member, none of us three would have to die otherwise they shorten the possible mafia list. The fact that Damus is pretty much confirmed leaves me, Glip, or Fatalis as the possible culprits. If Glip dies, we know Fatalis is the culprit. If Fatalis dies, we know Glip was the culprit. If I die, interesting things will unfold.

That needs to be revised. As long as everything goes according to plan, we are likely to find someone deviate, get a successful heal, or find the killer. If none of that happens there is only me, Damus_Graves, and Fatalis to die. If no one deviated, then one of us three is the killers. With Daus_Graves pretty much being confirmed, that leaves me or Fatalis as the killer. This plan limits the available targets of the mafia and will have a net to catch those who are really against the town.

Plan Breakers: Roflcoptor isn't Detective.
Obscurities: TheDarkestLight lies about his investigative results/isn't investigator.

[Chiller]

By the way, I see Glip reading the forum. Time stamping that now.

[Glip]

By the way, I see Glip reading the forum. Time stamping that now.

On phone. During class. Can only sneak looks occasionally. Lots to read. Don't expect response soon. Have break in hour and half. Talk then.

[Chiller]

On phone. During class. Can only sneak looks occasionally. Lots to read. Don't expect response soon. Have break in hour and half. Talk then.

~3 hours til day ends.

[Chiller]

If you could claim something Glip we would all appreciate it.

[Damus_Graves]

Chiller.
It does matter what Brendan flips.
If Brendan is Citizen U r scum.
If Brendan flips Mafia Glip needs to be checked

[Chiller]

Chiller.
It does matter what Brendan flips.
If Brendan is Citizen U r scum.
If Brendan flips Mafia Glip needs to be checked

Brendan Flips Citizen does not mean I'm scum. There could be three citizens and it could still be balanced.
No matter what, Glip needs to be checked. Checking me would only give you the results citizen/mafioso. Which is where we are already at. Town gains nothing from that. (Unless the investigator is a liar, you lynch me, I flip citizen, and you catch mafia. Probability of that happening .01%)