Hey guys, I'm back. Reread, now I'm rereading again to be me.
Hey guys, I'm back. Reread, now I'm rereading again to be me.
Not necessarily true:
1. Which will keep you alive at night.
2. You can still contribute and scumhunt even when people think you're scum.
3. You have time to get investigative results for yourself.
4. Not necessarily. This is sometimes true, but when you control your scumminess, you can be watching for that.
5. There are certainly pros and cons. Day One is certainly a situation where this can be good. Late-game, acting as scum is probably bad.
I thought a doctor will kill a bitten person?
What are your opinions on me, Psy, Error 404, and Obama?
Why did you not post? You can easily make an "I'm here" post from your phone at work, especially since much of my case against you was that you disappeared without mentioning it.
If you didn't read the RP, how do you know that we're in an experiment? How do you know that some people have lost their memories? Did you just *conveniently* miss that portion of the RP in the rolecard?
The more experienced players suggest that a random lynch is preferable to a no lynch, especially in a cult game.
Why have you vanished? It's been nine hours since that post, but you have yet to explain your new disappearance.
I am off for now, gotta eat and study. I'll be back
You can't possibly know that. Especially on Day One. Yes, he's acting scummy, but so is Eleven. I'd be happy with lynching either right now, but, if we try to lynch Obama instead of Eleven, it's possible that a no-lynch could occur. I'd prefer a lynch to a no-lynch today.
Off for 20 minutes to eat breakfast.
1 I have no opinions to share at the moment. It's troll day. All it is good for is retrospective comparison.
2 This statement is devoid of considerations of other people's live's and is generally stupid.
3 Learn to read. I didn't say that I didn't read it, I said that I skimmed it. I got almost all of my information from Here. Notice that the 'rolecards' there don't include RP. I skimmed through the actual RP rolecards, all of them, but there were a ton of videos making it difficult to focus on the information, so I took what I skimmed and left it be as it wasn't that important to the actual game.
4 This statement is subjective drivel.
5 I work and I sleep. That's not vanishing, that's having a real life outside of FM.
Yeah, except when it's a town at the end of the rope. Day 1 lynches are gambles. If you really want to role the dice and hope that you don't land on any of the 2/3s of us that are town, go right ahead and take such a shitty bet. But appealing to the "more experienced players" is a fallacy. There is no argument to be made that will make a day one lynch anything more than a gamble that has a 2/3s chance of hurting town.
1. It's only troll day if people make it troll day. Myself and Psy, along with certain others like Clay, Rolex, and Satan have actually contributed to discussion.
2. You said you were following the game on your phone. What's to stop you from posting "Hey, I'm at work, calm down and wait until I get home."?
3. Did you not at least fully read the RP in your role card?
4. Way to disagree without presenting a counterargument. I believe the logic is that, even if a random lynch hits town, it's not so bad because that just removes another potential cult recruit.
5. Then say something. Posting that you're going to be leaving is only protown. While you were gone, we weren't sure if you were a jester just lurking until you won, or a mafia pretending to be that.
Why do you consider them gambles? Because there are no PRs to have done anything last night? What if no one finds scum tomorrow, but there are still scummy posts? What about the next day? Relying on night actions can be helpful, but using them as the end-all-be-all of scumhunting is not a good idea.
-vote M-FM Subject 11
Your claim or your lynch shall help town
Off for an hour and a half-ish.
Your short sighted perspective is astounding. I have no interest in repeating myself this much. I've explained my mistake and I explained why lynching day 1 is bad. If you really want to go on believing that lynching town is an ok thing to do, by all means be a moron, but don't expect me to agree with it. Nor will I continue to defend the fact that I have real life responsibilities and allow you to believe that assuming malice where RL is the response is somehow an effective way to scumhunt.
If what I've said thus far is not good enough for you then tough shit. You'll just have to lynch me and I'll laugh as I go sign-up for another FM knowing that I dodged the bullet that is the self imploding town.
-unvote
I have revisited all of his posts and I believe I know his role.
To all:
Establishing a scummy post requires context. In FM, context = claims and evidence; of which we have neither. A 'scummy post' is either going to have some sort of logical mishap, generally regarding mechanics, or it's going to say something that is subjectively perceived as anti-town or pro-scum. Without context, your subjective hunch doesn't actually establish it's own validity beyond itself, it is only something to note until you establish the required context.
Without context, a lynch is effectively a gamble as it relies on the subjective perceptions of the players rather than empirical consideration. Now, if you're ok with a 33% chance of landing on a baddie, then by all means take that risk. But myself and many others are not willing to take the 66% gamble over hitting a townie, of up to 50% are PRs.
In my opinion, it is too early to take such risks. Citizen's are the only roles to me that are arguably expendable but losing any PR role this early puts us at a significant disadvantage in the long game.
If 11 turns out to be the role that I think he is, I would like to applaud him on his play so far today. If he's anything other than that one role though, then I would smh so bad at him.
For now, though, I would suggest that we do not lynch 11, and see what happens tonight in the night actions.
2 words; Cult Setup. Atm, we only have 5 town threats. However, we also have a very high KPN/CPN for such a small game. If we make a mistake and lynch a town, it really isn't going to be that bad in the grand scheme of things with the very high KPN. However, if we lynch someone and they DO turn out scum, we just effectively wiped out a KPN, and possibly saved quite a few townies from death at their hands.
The lynch is towns kill. While I may vote for someone else, all 11's doing instead of defending himself is saying we should lynch no one, which is a pretty dreadful defence. It's a Cult Setup, so no lynching is a pretty poor move.
I agree with 11 on that. We should let Jailor jail.
I SEE THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE WORRIED ABOUT THEIR FELLOW INFECTED
WE DONT EVEN KNO THERE IS A JAILOR YA DOOOFUSES ONLY CONFIRMED VIGI
ALSO 15 MADE A WHOLE COMPELLING ARGUMENT ABOUT HOW DAY ONE LYNCHES ARE BAD ONLY AFTER HE HAD VOTES ON HIM
I STILL SAY WE SHOULD GET 11 AND VIGI SHOULD SHOOT 15
DEPENDING ON WHICH IS EVIL WE CAN CHECK 4 THE PEOPLE WHO DEFENDERED HIM