Mass Murderer questiony.

[Roflcopter]

So if two MMs that aren't invulnerable visit eachother, which one dies?

[Cryptonic]

Neither, because neither of them stayed home.

[Cryptonic]

However, if you mean if they both visited the same person, then both die.

[Espozito]

Both die if they visit a same guy only, as they visit each other without being "at their own home"
Same as 2 not immune SK attack each other (btw, I once hosted a nice SK tournament: 14 SKs with no night immunity and 1 vet with infinite nights XDXDXD)

[Roflcopter]

Both die if they visit a same guy only, as they visit each other without being "at their own home"
Same as 2 not immune SK attack each other (btw, I once hosted a nice SK tournament: 14 SKs with no night immunity and 1 vet with infinite nights XDXDXD)

wouldn't it end after night one from 1 town vs neutral tie?

[Cryptonic]

wouldn't it end after night one from 1 town vs neutral tie?

Nope, ties only happen when it's 1v1

[RLVG]

What if a vulnerable alert veteran got visited by two vulnerable mass murderers?

It's a hypothetical question.


Edit : Hypothetical.

[Mugy]

Vets on alert cannot die no matter what, excluding arson burn. Therefore both mms would die to the veteran.

[Slaol]

a vulnerable alert veteran

This is not a thing. Ever.

[Ash]

Both of the M & Ms in that situation don't die.

M & Ms visit houses, not people. Whoever is in that house dies.

[Sin]

Both of the M & Ms in that situation don't die.

M & Ms visit houses, not people. Whoever is in that house dies.

But MM targeting vet dies, which means MM visits people. If he visits a house spreed by another vulnerable MM, I guess both die. This needs a trial to be sure.

[Lysergic]

But MM targeting vet dies, which means MM visits people. If he visits a house spreed by another vulnerable MM, I guess both die. This needs a trial to be sure.

He visits the Vet's house, not the Vet himself. Because Vet does not leave house, MM would try to kill Vet. However, Vet cannot be killed on alert and therefore doesn't die.

[MoDTassadar]

Think of it this way: The Vet stays home, and notices someone has invaded his home and kills them. Technically the MMs are visiting his house, but since he is in his house, he decides to kill them.

[creedkingsx]

Why is the MM concept so hard for people to grasp?

[Sin]

Why is the MM concept so hard for people to grasp?

It's not hard, the MM works like a Vet in other people's houses.

But I don't understand why.

If you consider that they don't act at the same time (like 2 Jailors jailing each other).

Let's say MM 1 visits the house of player number 6. What he sees :

- Player 6 (Citizen)
- Player 3 (Doctor)
- Player 12 (Escort)

Then MM 2 visits the same House. What he sees :

- Player 6 (Citizen)
- Player 3 (Doctor)
- Player 12 (Escort)
- MM 1

Why would he spare MM 1 ? Is it by the same kind of rule that makes Lookouts immune to Vet alerts (and that is nowhere to be found) ?
If so, then the rule should be specified somewhere. The "Lookout immune to Vet" made me lose a game once, because I thought the vet was lying (and that I should have been killed if he was telling the truth).

[Deantwo]

It's not hard, the MM works like a Vet in other people's houses.

But I don't understand why.

If you consider that they don't act at the same time (like 2 Jailors jailing each other).

Let's say MM 1 visits the house of player number 6. What he sees :

- Player 6 (Citizen)
- Player 3 (Doctor)
- Player 12 (Escort)

Then MM 2 visits the same House. What he sees :

- Player 6 (Citizen)
- Player 3 (Doctor)
- Player 12 (Escort)
- MM 1

Why would he spare MM 1 ? Is it by the same kind of rule that makes Lookouts immune to Vet alerts (and that is nowhere to be found) ?
If so, then the rule should be specified somewhere. The "Lookout immune to Vet" made me lose a game once, because I thought the vet was lying (and that I should have been killed if he was telling the truth).

problem is... they don't kill in turns... but other then that you are right
just MM 1 will also see MM 2

all killing roles kill each other or they're targets at the same time... some people forget that some times i guess

[Mugy]

Indeed, all killing happen simultaneously, any other way would create inequality.

[Slaol]

Indeed, all killing happen simultaneously, any other way would create inequality.

Disguiser is noticeably after :P

[Deantwo]

Disguiser is noticeably after :P

ok yeah... but as far as i know he still kills if he's killed the same night... right?

[RLVG]

ok yeah... but as far as i know he still kills if he's killed the same night... right?

No. The disguiser dies.

The kill of the Disguiser is a 100% chance to disguise as the target.

[creedkingsx]

MM turns there target into an alerted, vulnerable veteran for a night.
If you visit his target, you will die.
If you are visited and don't use a night action, you will die.
simple.
as.
that.