How To Make A Role Suggestion

[RLVG]

NOTE : This is a topic that is aimed to help others in creating role suggestions or prevent them from making bad suggestions / stealing.

I would like others to contribute into making this a successfull guide.
I'm not trying to get any fame, I just love this game and want it to grow in a better direction.



Role suggestions are something that we all favour.
It may be a good suggestion, a horrible suggestion or a repeated suggestion.

Good suggestions are consindered and discussed in the Research and Development forum only accessable to VIP and

donors.

Horrible suggestions are ignored for offense, idiocy, no logic involved, and et cetera.

Repeated suggestions are as it says : A suggestion that has been posted and remade into the same thing with a

different name or even stealing a role.



So what can we do, to make a good suggestion?

Here's what you can do :



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1. The role name has to be legal and not offensive.

Racism, sexuality, offense, religion, etc...
Examples : Rapist, Suicide Bomber, Osama Bin Laden, Nigger, KKK, Nazi.

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2. The role needs an impact on the game.

For example, all the current roles adds an impact on the game from start to end.
Roleblocking, Killing, Investigation, Framing, etc.

We don't need a role who's purpose is entirely a joke and stands around doing nothing.
(Like who's immune to death, roleblocks, jailing, lynching, and can't kill)

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3. The role needs to be somewhat unique, or different from existing roles.

For example, a jailor performs a "Perfect Roleblock" with ability to kill them too.
We need no more roles with such.
We also have a Survivor, so we don't need another Survivor-like role.

What would be unique may be Mechanics: Order of Actions Manipulation.
All you need is creativity or understanding of the game.

It won't be unique if you're combining existing roles as it will almost always be ignored.

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4. The role needs a goal.

You don't make a role who doesn't have a goal, or a horrible goal.
For example, visit 3 players starting with the letter G. That's a horrible goal.

A reasonable goal would be "Survive with Town", "Kill all Neutral", "Win with Everyone", "Kill at least 5."

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5. The role needs a balance.

Bad Example : Each night you can kill/roleblock three targets with no exception... Unbalanced.
Good Example : Each night you can target one to kill/roleblock, having one night to rest.

If a role is not balanced, it may be overpowered or underpowered.

Underpowered : Very hard to win as, not enough tools to use.
Overpowered : Very easy to win as, too many tools to use.

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6. Roles involved Luck are bad.

RNG (Random Number Generation) are generaly not fun and mostly only frustrating.
Please do not include roles with such E.G % chance to do this and that.

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7. The role need to be enjoyable or fun.

Playing a boring role are something encouraging Rolequitting, or making the player useless.
In general, some roles may appear fun to you and boring to others so seek a balance for everyone.

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8. You need to search the forums if the role has been suggested.

A small change of a role may be acceptable, but think of what others may approve.
In addition, it might be wise to search role suggestions to see what is disaproved.¨

And last, don't search the forums just to steal a role. Think about respect.

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9. You need to make it easy to understand.

Bad : So liek that doctor has to target someone and he like gets anti-died.
Good : The doctor targets someone, preventing them to die for that night.

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10. Constructive Cricism shouldn't be ignored.

Giving constructive criticism to improve the role or why it's bad, you are free to adjust the role.
But think why it's good, as most may disagree with eachothers.

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11. Take your time.

Brainstorming causes someone to get too many ideas at once without thinking it through.
Instead, write down your ideas short and then take your time to think it.

For example :
Kill, Roleblock, Dual Target, Immune.
You can only kill once, you can only roleblock once, you're immune to death, can target two at once.

In addition, you may look it from another perspective : What would the others think when they read this?

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12. Don't spam topics full of suggestions.

If you're going to make more then two suggestions, make a single topic with all the suggestions instead.
Prefferably with Spoiler Tag for each role.

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So here's an example : I will make my own role.
You can make your own template out of this :

Spoiler : Role Suggestion: Surgeon :

Role Name / Alignment :
Surgeon, Neutral Evil



Description :
You're a doctor seeking for people to experiment on.

The Surgeon helps someone to survive if they are dying,
because that person would be a potential test subject.

The Surgeon doesn't want to be seen by another.



Ability :
Target one player each night.
If the player is occupied, you ignore it.
(Roleblock, Jailed, Healed by a Doctor, Healing someone)

If the target is attacked, you heal the person.
If the target is the attacker, you ignore it.

If the target are not occupied or attacked,
you'll attack the target to perform medical experiments.



Goal :
Wins with everyone // Another goal to be discussed.
Perform ((Default: 5)) experiments.
Optional : Must survive to the end.



Additional Notes :
I have not thougth of investigator's received message.
That may be discussed on.

Personally, I think Stalker suits due to the description.

Good luck with making role suggestions, and thank you all for having contributed to making this guide.

[Ash]

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...w-Roles-UPDATE

[Chane]

-vote for sticky

[RLVG]

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...w-Roles-UPDATE

What? Why is it in the Old Warehouse / Museum?
"Archives are here. Posting is not enabled in this forum."

What's ironic is that it's a sticky in the wrong forum. I would never expect such a sticky on an archieve forum.

If it's a sticky in the wrong forum, wouldn't it be better to sticky it Here or at least make a sepperate role suggestion forum? Sticky clearly hints consinderation.



Ironically, I did actually search using the search function.



Well, fuck. It was semi-inspired by Dean saying that there should be a topic about this so I put it in consinderation.

... That topic is also more then a year old and was asking directly for a petition.

-vote for sticky

I didn't ask it to be sticky, but simply a guide that might either go to the Wikia or consinderation of the mods remaking the topic since I've noticed alot of flaming around suggestions and bad suggestions are common as there's no definate guide.

[Ash]

What? Why is it in the Old Warehouse / Museum?
"Archives are here. Posting is not enabled in this forum."

What's ironic is that it's a sticky in the wrong forum. I would never expect such a sticky on an archieve forum.

If it's a sticky in the wrong forum, wouldn't it be better to sticky it Here or at least make a sepperate role suggestion forum? Sticky clearly hints consinderation.



Ironically, I did actually search using the search function.



Well, fuck. It was semi-inspired by Dean saying that there should be a topic about this so I put it in consinderation.

... That topic is also more then a year old and was asking directly for a petition.





I didn't ask it to be sticky, but simply a guide that might either go to the Wikia or consinderation of the mods remaking the topic since I've noticed alot of flaming around suggestions and bad suggestions are common as there's no definate guide.





Well, I didn't do my research so I give permission to delete the topic.

The thread is archived because it was on the old COM website. Every thread from the old COM website became archived. Not many people look at it, but it still helps and it has some points which you can/may add in this thread.

[RLVG]

The thread is archived because it was on the old COM website. Every thread from the old COM website became archived. Not many people look at it, but it still helps and it has some points which you can/may add in this thread.

Ah, I thank you for that.


However a minor complaint is how editing the topic leads to a blank page.

Notepad FTW!

I'm going to edit my topic with additional things.



Edit : Quote can actually help in that regard if you get a blank page, as it copies all the text without issues.
Copy the quote, edit & paste.

[Deantwo]

very nice ^^

i think you should add a note about randomization being a bad idea...
there's a few reasons why:

• Makes you feel you aren't in total control of your own ability
• It makes the outcome unpredictable for all parties
• Causes unnecessary confusion

the only really good example of randomization i can think of is the Jester grief kill... as it make everyone fear voting guilty while only effecting one person in the end

a role that pick multiple targets at night and then dose something random like swapping them or killing one of them... will only make the game confusing

[Ekkeh]

Why is suicide bomber offensive?