Paranormal Case Studies (S-FM)

[Glip]

Nothing happened to me last night.

[creedkingsx]

I think Dust still hasn't been on.
Like I said, my money is on him for having been the one that was doused.

[CmG]

IF the benign neutral is student you should pick me. Creed might be a jester. I think the Vigilante should shoot him at night if we decide that he is scum.

Jester lynches hurt. Right now its 7+ 1? vs 4 +1?

My guess is we have a jester as benign since the setup is rather fragile. Another scum neutral like witch? I don't think so.

[CmG]

Does the vigilante day shoot pierce immunity since its a day action and not a night action?

[Roflcopter]

How do you know there IS a vigi?

[Roflcopter]

Does the vigilante day shoot cause day to end?

[Damus_Graves]

Does the vigilante day shoot cause day to end?

No.

[CmG]

How do you know there IS a vigi?

I don't know if there is one but the FAQ says that he can day shoot now so yeah! ;)

[Damus_Graves]

Does the vigilante day shoot pierce immunity since its a day action and not a night action?

Yes.

[creedkingsx]

How do you know there IS a vigi?

He didn't say there was.
You are worse than a pub on SC2maf.

[Roflcopter]

True, true. Vigi, when you feel like it, cap creed in the face please.

[CmG]

Creed is sort of more agressive than usual. I think he wants to be lynched and therefore should eat a bullet at night or at day.

[creedkingsx]

You are way to white to say that. hahahaha

[creedkingsx]

Creed is sort of more agressive than usual. I think he wants to be lynched and therefore should eat a bullet at night or at day.

I am aggressive when stupidity is in the air.

[Roflcopter]

Naw, you are just aggressive to defend yourself, as you're mafia arse was almost lynched.

[creedkingsx]

Naw, you are just aggressive to defend yourself, as you're mafia arse was almost lynched.

If I was aggressive to defend myself, I would have claimed a long time ago.
thinkbeforeyoupostpls.

[Bahkieh]

Lynching off of ONE role block is 90% a bad choice. Especially after the first night. At least spend another night confirming.

[Roflcopter]

There bahkieh defending creed adamantly again. Probably mafia partners, note how he only started defending once the votes went away.

[creedkingsx]

Glip, Chane, and CmG defended me a bit too.
We are 4man team of mafia. :o

[creedkingsx]

My math si bad, including bahkieh makes a 5 man team. We are unstoppable >: )

[Roflcopter]

Maybe, but only bah defended you with no suspicion of you being scum, along with waiting for votes to go away.

[creedkingsx]

He defended me because in Moscow, he claimed he was roleblocked and almost got lynched because there was no arson douse claim.
He flipped Lookout.

[Glip]

I find it interesting that Creed claimed Citizen after trying to wifom PR. Why didn't he just stick with a PR claim? Mafia would have believed him, and increased the likelihood of him getting shot at night instead of an actual PR, and since PR claims are usually more believable than cit claims, he would have a higher chance of not getting lynched too.

I also find it extremely odd that Roflcopter is so excited about the lynch, and so adamant that Creed must be mafia. The only reason anyone should be even nearly as certain as he is about someone's alignment is if he's a Sheriff that found Creed as scum. Even so, there should still be SOME doubt in his mind, what with the possibility of the framer. If Roflcopter is a Sheriff and Creed maf, he's pretty much given himself away to the mafia already, so he had better claim if he is so that we have better reason to believe him, and better reason to sic a doc on him.

As it is, Roflcopter's eagerness to lynch Creed worries me. This is why I'm not voting Creed yet, in addition to the fact that it's way too early in the day for a lynch.

[Roflcopter]

Why all the WIFOM? Just lynch him later in the day. Problem solved. 100% mafia rite there.

[Roflcopter]

Let's stick with a lynch though and not have the vigi waste a shot.

[creedkingsx]

I don't think continuing the wifomaganza would have been beneficial. It would have just came up later on in the game as the assumption of me being PR and that ruling out person X. Then, in order to prevent their lynch, I would have to reveal me as Citizen, and get lynched at a much more crucial time.

[creedkingsx]

Why all the WIFOM? Just lynch him later in the day. Problem solved. 100% mafia rite there.

WIFOM and scum hunting win games.
Being bad doesn't.

[Bujeebus]

-Unvote I appear to be lurking because I've been playing dota 2 matches, I have read up everything, not sure if I believe creed, but I was just pressuring, so here ya go.

I find it interesting that Creed claimed Citizen after trying to wifom PR. Why didn't he just stick with a PR claim? Mafia would have believed him, and increased the likelihood of him getting shot at night instead of an actual PR, and since PR claims are usually more believable than cit claims, he would have a higher chance of not getting lynched too.

I also find it extremely odd that Roflcopter is so excited about the lynch, and so adamant that Creed must be mafia. The only reason anyone should be even nearly as certain as he is about someone's alignment is if he's a Sheriff that found Creed as scum. Even so, there should still be SOME doubt in his mind, what with the possibility of the framer. If Roflcopter is a Sheriff and Creed maf, he's pretty much given himself away to the mafia already, so he had better claim if he is so that we have better reason to believe him, and better reason to sic a doc on him.

As it is, Roflcopter's eagerness to lynch Creed worries me. This is why I'm not voting Creed yet, in addition to the fact that it's way too early in the day for a lynch.

Good point, might be executioner.

[Damus_Graves]

Creed is L-2

[Roflcopter]

Since others have unvoted, ill

-vote creedkingsx

to keep the pressure on.

[Glip]

I don't think continuing the wifomaganza would have been beneficial. It would have just came up later on in the game as the assumption of me being PR and that ruling out person X. Then, in order to prevent their lynch, I would have to reveal me as Citizen, and get lynched at a much more crucial time.

Changing your claim to Citizen in order to prevent a real PR from getting lynched wouldn't seem scummy at all. It would be extremely scummy if you let him get lynched first. Revealing BEFORE he gets lynched though, would have to me most likely have cleared both your names as most probable town.

[Glip]

Since others have unvoted, ill

-vote creedkingsx

to keep the pressure on.

Pressure? What for? Think he's gunna change his claim to PR if you keep him pressured long enough?

[CmG]

Glip, Chane, and CmG defended me a bit too.
We are 4man team of mafia. :o

Lol trust me when i say i will never defend you in this game. I am just try to do what is best for Town and that means eleminating threats through communication with each other and the basis for that is a long daytime.

That's all

[creedkingsx]

Lol trust me when i say i will never defend you in this game. I am just try to do what is best for Town and that means eleminating threats through communication with each other and the basis for that is a long daytime.

That's all

You will never defend anyone. But by his logic, you didn't vote for me, therefore you defended me.

Rofl, you never unvoted me to start with.

Glip, it's one of those risk=reward kind of things. Given how hard ROFL is trying to push this, I didn't feel it good to take any kind of risk.

[Roflcopter]

ALright, you have a strong point
-unvote

But I don't want to miss the chance to lynch him later.

orly?

[Roflcopter]

Slipped up again I see.

[creedkingsx]

I could blame it on the wrong red, but I just forgot. Oh well.

[Glip]

Slipped up again I see.

Please confirm whether or not you are a Sheriff, so I can confirm whether or not you have even the slightest reason to be so adamant about Creed's scuminosity.

[Bahkieh]

Maybe, but only bah defended you with no suspicion of you being scum, along with waiting for votes to go away.

I'm at work on a phone. Also I was reading. I'm just saying it is a safer play to rb Another night.

[Roflcopter]

Hm, what if hes not mafia, but the arsonist then!

No douse victims today right? (yet)

No matter what he is evil, but let's see if hes the arson or some maf.

[creedkingsx]

Lol everyone else already considered that.
I wouldn't douse CmG first

[Roflcopter]

Yes but I am bringing it back up. Though I still say you are mafia over arson.

You probably doused cmg so they wouldnt think it was you and you could use that very excuse, IF you are arson.

[Bahkieh]

I'm not defending anyone btw. Im just not going to lynch off a night 1 rb. Thats bad game sense. Suspicious yes but not so much for a next day lynch. At least not in my book.

[CmG]

Can we use more facts instead of going ape shit all over creedkingsx? Right now roflcopter sounds to me like the Day 1 Exe from Sc2mafia. Congratulations you discredited yourself!

[Bahkieh]

anyways. My phone is almost dead. Depending on what creed flips if he is lynched I will probably role claim.

[Roflcopter]

I was all fired up after winning some games of sc2maf. I still think creed is scummy but I should be more rational now.

[Dust]

Sorry I haven't been online yet. Something in RL came up and so I won't be as active as I was for a few days.

Nothing happened to me last night. Sorry to be of no use in that department.

-vote creedkingx

He's incriminated himself and one other. That's more than enough for a lynch. Even if he is a citizen as he claims this lynch will provide a lot of information about who voted him etc.

[Dust]

Oh snap, I just reread.

Did I just hammer?

Sorry if this ends the day. I should have waited.

[Glip]

Oh snap, I just reread.

Did I just hammer?

Sorry if this ends the day. I should have waited.

I think it depends on whether or not Damus wants to count Brendan's uncolored unvote

[Damus_Graves]

Vote Tally:
Creed {6} Brendan, Roflcopter, Kira, Chane, Dust, Jr