New roles proposition : Torturer, Tortured, Confessor and Leprous

[Akasora]

Here's a couple I worked on. I'm waiting for comments. These are the first I'm sending, hope you'll like them !

Role name: Torturer
Description: You are a sadist who decided to use his hunger for blood in the name of justice.
Alignment: Town (Or could be neutral)
Abilities:
- Can use once the ability -torture during the day. His target become roleblocked and get killed during the night (executed by a torturer for instance). One member of the same team than his target is then revealed to the « Torturer »
- Target killed by « Torturer » becomes « Tortured soul ».
Win Condition:
- Survive long enough to see town wins.
Host Options:
- Can use his ability 1,2,3 times
- 1,2,3 target's allies are revealed
- Only first target becomes Tortured Soul
Overall effect on the metagame if implemented:
At first I thought torturer could talk with his target during the night, but it would be an op jailer. This way, he must be sure of his move if he want to bring info to town.

Torturer could be Mafia's jailer equivalent too.

Target should have choice between becoming or not a tortured soul.

Role name: Tortured Soul
Description: You are a fantom who only seeks vengeance.
Alignment: Neutral
Abilities:
- Can't talk.
- Can't be targetted.
- Can't be roleblocked.
- Can't be lynched.
- Can see deads' chat.
- Can see night chats.
- Can only kill once and dies when he does.

Win Condition:
- Find and kill the torturer.

Host Options:
1) - Only town can become Tortured soul
- Can't see night chats.
- Can't see deads' chat.
- Can talk in deads' chat.

Overall effect on the metagame if implemented:
It is only a complementary role for the torturer. Only torturer's target can become Tortured soul.

Role name: Confessor
Description: You are a man of faith who listens to people's confessions.
Alignment: Town
Abilities:
- Can hear confession of one person per night. The number of people the target's have killed is then revealed to the confessor.
Win Condition:
- Town wins.
Host Options:
- Guilty votes on lynched people are counted as murder.

Overall effect on the metagame if implemented:
A role for town. Guess it could be as powerful as sheriff if a good player roles it.

Role name : Leprous
Description : You are doomed and are waiting death peacefully.
Alignment : Neutral
Abilities :
- Everybody who visits the leprous become infected.
- All those affected by the disease will die on night 5 (The leprous too)
Win condition :
- Die peacefully in your bed, like you were supposed to, and bring at least two persons with you in the after-world.(On night 5).
Host Options :
- Leprous dies on night 4 - 5 (Standart : 5)
- Infected can infect others (Standart : No)

Comments :
The deal is that this class would not be too important, but couldn't be ignored as well. Town and maf should pay attention, as everybody can be affected (From bus driver to arson and from invest to blackmailor). Only fiew who can't visits would be safe (Mayor, for instance).

Doc are the only one immuned to the disease. If they try to heal the Leprous, then this one is revealed.

Would gives something to do for doc other than help people (if a leprous is shown in the role list, doc becomes a sort of invest)

[Sarzael]

You should make Tortured Soul able to speak whit the dead players as a host option.

[Akasora]

Done ! Thanks for the suggestion. ^^

[Auckmid]

I'm having a very hard time putting my opinion into words for this role. It's very interesting because Torturer neither seems particular OP or UP in my mind. He's a lot like a Jailer who can target someone, even if there are no lynches the previous day, but to counterbalance this, he will have to deal with the Soul's of his victim's. The only problem I'm having is that it seems so... Colossal. He could potentially win the game for the Town, but he can also cause the Town to lose in the wrong hand's (Troll/Newb)

All in all, I think I like it a lot. Here are some suggestions.

-As an option, make it that only Town aligned people can become Tortured Soul's, there by rewarding the Torturer for getting Scum, and punishing him for killing Townies.

-To make up for the buff above, maybe get rid of the ability where the Torturer discovers another person of the same alignment. I understand why you put it, but giving it the ability to role-block, kill, and investigate all on the same night seems OP to me

-As an option, maybe give the Torturer's victims the choice as to whether they want to become Tortured Souls, or if they want to let go of there hate and pass peacefully into the afterlife, losing it's one time kill ability, but retaining it's original alignment. It would suck your team was about to win, then on the very last night, you became a Tortured Soul and lost the game.

Update: I've been thinking about it quite a bit, and I do think this role has definate potentional. What I was trying to put into word's was that Torturer can easily be made neither OP nor UP, but it is an extreamly powerful role all the same.

[Akasora]

-As an option, make it that only Town aligned people can become Tortured Soul's, there by rewarding the Torturer for getting Scum, and punishing him for killing Townies.

Good idea. Could be always like this too.

-To make up for the buff above, maybe get rid of the ability where the Torturer discovers another person of the same alignment. I understand why you put it, but giving it the ability to role-block, kill, and investigate all on the same night seems OP to me

Could not role-block, but kill and learn who partner is. Knowing who other mafia(s) is/are will be torturer's only use, as he surely won't target someone randomly, in fear of tortured soul.

-As an option, maybe give the Torturer's victims the choice as to whether they want to become Tortured Souls, or if they want to let go of there hate and pass peacefully into the afterlife, losing it's one time kill ability, but retaining it's original alignment. It would suck your team was about to win, then on the very last night, you became a Tortured Soul and lost the game.

You couldn't be more right. Should be always like this too.

[Akasora]

I added the Leprous role.

[Imperfect]

I like the leprous and confessor roles. The tortured roles remind me too much of jailor and executioner.

[Akasora]

Thank you for your commentaries. I'm not sure why Torturer remind you Jailor, as the only thing that is the same for the two roles is that they chose their target during the night. Torturer cannot talk with his target. He simply kills him and then one of his partner is reveal. A target from town could reveal a random name.

And we could add an host option : Torturer hides identity when killing. Like this, we never know if the partner revealed is real or not.

But it would make this role a little UP, in my opinion.

Could a Mod that pass by and have the time leaves his opinion ?

[NorthStar]

Support for the Leprous role. I don't like the options for the infected infecting others too, too much like the Cult, except they all die lol. What if an infected player visits an non-infected player? What happens?

[Akasora]

I would say that by default, Infected cannot infect, no matter.

[Akasora]

I'm ok with this

But could a role that can see dead chat be possible ?

And even if not, I just thought that the two roles are still working fine. The dead chat wasn't even an important point of it.

But still, it's an interessant ability. The thing is, nobody could really cheat, because the torturer would be unknown by everybody... There could be an invest, but there again, the Tortured soul should not listen to anybody : a Troll could easily get him to waste his only hit. At the end, it would still be better to just ignore the dead chat and be patient.

As this leaves the Tortured soul's win too easy, you could add an ability to the witch that let her kill the ghost in a one night ritual, forcing him to random-vengeance.

[Akasora]

*Quickly bumps with skills as the thread seems dying*