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    Re: make an achievment for being good jailor/vigi

    because its actually hard to do, i said 75/100, i consider that small.

    going 3/3 is hard because theres usually 4 evil roles in the room, 3 maf and 1 neutral killing. and most jailors go 1/3 and most vigi's go 0/3 with their kills. or granted you just die before n3 which cant be helpd. if you have a problem with the amount of points its worth just suggest another point value for the achievment.

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    Re: make an achievment for being good jailor/vigi

    Quote Originally Posted by kyle1234513 View Post
    no thats the 250 games speaking to me. most vigis dont kill any evil roles at all seeing as how most of them are immune. and i see way more failors than jailors so that instantly makes them non passing with their kills. 2/3 is passing for jailor, any less is failor.
    Okay, 250 games, out of hundreds of thousands played.

    If vigilantes 'can't kill at all', why make the achievement for them?

    How is 1/3 a failor if he uses execute once?

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    Re: make an achievment for being good jailor/vigi

    Quote Originally Posted by kyle1234513 View Post
    no thats the 250 games speaking to me. most vigis dont kill any evil roles at all seeing as how most of them are immune. and i see way more failors than jailors so that instantly makes them non passing with their kills. 2/3 is passing for jailor, any less is failor.
    probably 30 wins, 100% pubs, dis a joke or what

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    Re: make an achievment for being good jailor/vigi

    Quote Originally Posted by LeaD View Post
    probably 30 wins, 100% pubs, dis a joke or what
    ofc theyre all pubs, thats the game, not the league matches where ppl are biased in their kills "oh i dont feel like killing creed tonight, he posted something nice last week" pubs are 100% random chance, unbiased shots/executions. these kills go soley on the inteligence of people and the evidence at hand. btw its, 119wins and 251 matches total now, just got done with one. thats 47% win/loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyle1234513 View Post
    ofc theyre all pubs, thats the game, not the league matches where ppl are biased in their kills "oh i dont feel like killing creed tonight, he posted something nice last week" pubs are 100% random chance, unbiased shots/executions. these kills go soley on the inteligence of people and the evidence at hand. btw its, 119wins and 251 matches total now, just got done with one. thats 47% win/loss.
    Lol except we don't use names in league, no one knows who people are... lol

    And stop trying to impress people with a 47% win ratio at 251 games.

    Vigilante can't kill most roles as they are immune to attacks. Also, it's very rare that the vigilante will get any more than 2 shots in pubs. I could also see this encouraging jailors and vigilantes to kill solely to try kill enemies before town finds and lynches.

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    Re: make an achievment for being good jailor/vigi

    Quote Originally Posted by kyle1234513 View Post
    ofc theyre all pubs, thats the game, not the league matches where ppl are biased in their kills "oh i dont feel like killing creed tonight, he posted something nice last week" pubs are 100% random chance, unbiased shots/executions. these kills go soley on the inteligence of people and the evidence at hand. btw its, 119wins and 251 matches total now, just got done with one. thats 47% win/loss.
    Have you EVER played a league match? No? So then why are you talking about it?

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    Re: make an achievment for being good jailor/vigi

    Yeah we have achievements for failing to kill someone 4 times or killing yourself with your own ignition. Not to mention all the ones that make you ignore your role like "never reveal as mayor" or "never rememeber as amnesiac".
    Achievements have little to do with what you are supposed to do.

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    achievments are usually hard mode winning,mexcept for the arson killing yourself.

    that amnesiac doesnt exist, and there are legitimate strategies about not revealing as mayor.

    killing 3 evil roles is EXACTLY what your supposed to do as vigi, there should be no achievement for it.

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    Re: make an achievment for being good jailor/vigi

    Finding a vigilante or jailer who doesn't kill town randomly is rare. Last night a jailer killed me because he hated my name. I agree that achievements to make them want to play better is a good idea instead of letting them go nuts and ruin town.
    You misspelled retard...oh the irony!

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    Re: make an achievment for being good jailor/vigi

    Quote Originally Posted by Kain View Post
    Finding a vigilante or jailer who doesn't kill town randomly is rare. Last night a jailer killed me because he hated my name. I agree that achievements to make them want to play better is a good idea instead of letting them go nuts and ruin town.
    Aha one jailor asked, what is my favourite color and i said its green. He executed me.
    Second later i realised it wasnt the best idea, because green died n1, well he actually commited suicide but jailor didnt remember that. I was bodyguard then. But instead of this achievement i remember kuma said jailor should only be available for 5k points and up :P

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    Re: make an achievment for being good jailor/vigi

    Quote Originally Posted by Boss View Post
    achievments are usually hard mode winning,mexcept for the arson killing yourself.

    that amnesiac doesnt exist, and there are legitimate strategies about not revealing as mayor.

    killing 3 evil roles is EXACTLY what your supposed to do as vigi, there should be no achievement for it.
    Handi-Capable: Win with the "Amnesiac Wins" ending as an Amnesiac. (+300)

    You are right it´s not just "don´t remember" you also need to make shure everyone else dies.

    Killing 3 evils in a game is in theory nice. In practice jailors are going to push for nonlynches and kill every night in order to get 3 kills AT ALL before the game ends...

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    Re: make an achievment for being good jailor/vigi

    Quote Originally Posted by Raptorblaze View Post
    >Achievement requires you use all your shots on evil roles
    >Says it encourages random killing

    Your logic, fail it does.
    Quote Originally Posted by kyle1234513 View Post
    i suggest an achievment for being a killing town role, and going at least 3/3 for your executions/shots.

    this achievment would be for 75 or 100 points. something small and it would be something for people to try and be good with their kills.
    I seen no mention of only being used on evil roles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unentschieden View Post
    The issue isn´t the difficulty but the method. It makes you try to get everyone else killed even though the roles purpose is to identify and join the winning team.
    true but this achievement is epic non the less. I strove to get it and with yo dawg and handi-capable I am a happy man.

    vigi and mafi left, all you need is luck.
    G: 15 | W: 13 | MVP: 2
    S-FM Casino: Town (WIN) S-FM BSDL:Detective (WIN)S-FM PCS: Subject X (Arsonist) (WIN/MVP) S-FM Mani: Citizen (WIN) FM-XV Rebel/Haunter (WIN) S-FM Prelude: doctor (WIN/MVP) S-FM HotD: (town/loss) S-FM L&D: Lookout (WIN) S-FM BL: Framer (WIN) M-FM XIII Vigilante/Subject XVI (WIN/MVRIP) S-FM SE: Mafioso: (WIN) S-FM Flashmob 1: Doctor (Win) Fmob 2: SK (Coulda/Woulda/Shoulda) S-FM BT: Sheriff (WIN) S-FM Websites: Citizen (WIN)

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    Re: make an achievment for being good jailor/vigi

    Quote Originally Posted by kyle1234513 View Post
    i suggest an achievment for being a killing town role, and going at least 3/3 for your executions/shots.

    this achievment would be for 75 or 100 points. something small and it would be something for people to try and be good with their kills.
    +9840656084024984816549806564

    Great idea. An achievement where you actually achieve--and could could cut down on Failors and Fagilantes and Gayors.

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    Re: make an achievment for being good jailor/vigi

    Is it ok if I add achievements based on this in my achievement topic? Offcourse you will be credited for groundwork .
    G: 15 | W: 13 | MVP: 2
    S-FM Casino: Town (WIN) S-FM BSDL:Detective (WIN)S-FM PCS: Subject X (Arsonist) (WIN/MVP) S-FM Mani: Citizen (WIN) FM-XV Rebel/Haunter (WIN) S-FM Prelude: doctor (WIN/MVP) S-FM HotD: (town/loss) S-FM L&D: Lookout (WIN) S-FM BL: Framer (WIN) M-FM XIII Vigilante/Subject XVI (WIN/MVRIP) S-FM SE: Mafioso: (WIN) S-FM Flashmob 1: Doctor (Win) Fmob 2: SK (Coulda/Woulda/Shoulda) S-FM BT: Sheriff (WIN) S-FM Websites: Citizen (WIN)

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