M-FM XII Animal Gamethread

[MANgo]

I am not ranting. Lurking = Scum 90% Of the time. Look at the other game. Luna lurked, Fatalis lurked, Jr0815 lurked, Goremancer even more lurked. Do you see a pattern ? I DO!

Subjective analysis is not statistics.

[KILLERpeach]

That's not subjective analysis. Just go and look at all games on this page and tell me something different. 90% of scum just lurks their arses off. It's a fact.

[MANgo]

That's not subjective analysis. Just go and look at all games on this page and tell me something different. 90% of scum just lurks their arses off. It's a fact.

I've already explained my actions. You keep pushing a point that is fallacious and ultimately irrelevant. There's no reason to continue beating this dead horse.

[BROmato]

even if it's not a direct scumtell, it's still a tactic a lot of scum will do in order to hide from the rest of town because they're less conspicuous that way. i think it's ok to call people out for that. i know i deserved it because i made like 2 posts all of day 1 and 2.

[KILLERpeach]

I've already explained my actions. You keep pushing a point that is fallacious and ultimately irrelevant. There's no reason to continue beating this dead horse.

Invalid argument. You did the same at FM 10 and you flipped mafioso at the end. I did the same in FM 13 last game as the devourer. I stated i had no time for this. Your arguments are too easy to fabricate.

[BROmato]

i can understand the whole "i am busy" statement but that doesn't make you any less scum

[MANgo]

I stated i had no time for this.

Then why do you keep beating the dead horse? You really really want me lynched, all because you perceive me as a lurker; not even because I was lurking. I've explained my behavior, and you ignored it and continue to push this hilariously invalid point.

Because I can also make the case the Mob have a tendency to press lurkers to distract from themselves when there are no legitimate leads. I saw it happen in a game that I cannot yet comment on. Same game we can see a "lurker" that invalidates your absolutist point.

[KILLERpeach]

Where do i beat a dead horse? Lurking is a scum strategy and has nothing to do with you personally. You are a lurker so you are high likely scum. That's all what i am saying here. So that's why i have my vote on you? Is it that hard to understand?

[BROcumber]

Hi guys Grapefruit is mafia
He is completely and utterly useless while trying to post shit like what happened or not happened to him at night.
He contributes nothing and only agrees with people.
Let's face it, if we procrastinate any longer we lose majority
Lets kill this guy
Choo choo
-vote Grapefruit

[BROnana]

@ MANgo

Who do you find most suspicious? I don't think you've mentioned anyone you find scummy.

What do you think about KILLERpeach?

Why didn't you respond to KILLERpeach's accusations and vote after he made them? Your first post was to reply to BROmato about the drug dealer not to the guy who is saying we should lynch you.

It would help if everyone votes who they find most scummy. The end result does not need to be a lynch, unless we come to a consensus, but it should still be informative.

[BROnana]

Hi guys Grapefruit is mafia
He is completely and utterly useless while trying to post shit like what happened or not happened to him at night.
He contributes nothing and only agrees with people.
Let's face it, if we procrastinate any longer we lose majority
Lets kill this guy
Choo choo
-vote Grapefruit

There's a lot of people like that. BROmato and BROconut are two. You have also been useless as this is your first game-related post. What makes gRAPEfruit different?

[MANgo]

@ MANgo

Who do you find most suspicious? I don't think you've mentioned anyone you find scummy.

What do you think about KILLERpeach?

Why didn't you respond to KILLERpeach's accusations and vote after he made them? Your first post was to reply to BROmato about the drug dealer not to the guy who is saying we should lynch you.

It would help if everyone votes who they find most scummy. The end result does not need to be a lynch, unless we come to a consensus, but it should still be informative.

MANGARINE is on my list. I don't very much trust someone who directs the town. The only people who know what the event looks like are the detective and the lookout. Seemed like a mob ploy to me, but I have no reason to explicitly state this. I was waiting for more information.

I think KILLERpeach is just carrying over a feud from a previous game once he realize who I was. I think it's possible that he is also mob, attempting to focus everyone on me but again, there's no reason to explicitly state this as it is just a hypothesis.

The only reason he had for voting me was a day 3 accusation of lurking and, presumably, hostility from that feud I mentioned. This did not warrant a response as I see his accusations as baseless because... they are. BROmato made a statement that I felt could be expanded on as well as pointing out that anything at this moment is speculative unless one is using information the rest of us are unaware of.

I responded to KILLERpeach when he misrepresented my statement. Silly me, let him suck me in and put me on the defensive over the reiteration of the same irrelevant point. I do not agree that I was lurking, nor do I agree it's a reason to vote someone up on day 3. I was a bit inactive, but I explained myself and he continues to push the same point, ignoring my explanation; further evidence of a vendetta over real suspicion.

[BROcumber]

I got my eyes on him and atm im tunnel visioning him.
I always hated people going hurr, last night nothing happened to me. I mean usefulness factor 0. How does it help town? It fucken doesnt.
Only thing it does is an illusion of him participating. Like how in the fucking lifetime does it help town that mafia knows he didnt receive anything.

Today he said he was busdriven, left no personal opinion on it, and went lurking for estimatedly almost whole day. He will probably add something as useless at the end of the day and go on with his life.
I say kill it with fire, no?

[KILLERpeach]

I got my eyes on him and atm im tunnel visioning him.
I always hated people going hurr, last night nothing happened to me. I mean usefulness factor 0. How does it help town? It fucken doesnt.
Only thing it does is an illusion of him participating. Like how in the fucking lifetime does it help town that mafia knows he didnt receive anything.

Today he said he was busdriven, left no personal opinion on it, and went lurking for estimatedly almost whole day. He will probably add something as useless at the end of the day and go on with his life.
I say kill it with fire, no?

I have no feud with you. I don't even care about you. I know that you are dimwit but i first thought you were that coconut guy. So i voted you even b4 i know who you were. Therefore your feud argument doesn't count. Also pretending that i have something against you just makes you appear even more scummy because that is clearly not the case.

I think voting you is totaly justified. Especially after watching you react to it.

[clementine]

Hey guys, try your best not to use metagame information about people's identities while playing this game.

It's fine if you think quietly about it to yourself or use it as rationale behind your night actions, but let's try to keep COM names out of the discussion.
Thanks! :]

[MANgo]

I know that you are dimwit but i first thought you were that coconut guy. So i voted you even b4 i know who you were.

Your actual vote came right after my fuck up. Not only that, but you quoted it out of spite before you voted me. If that's not evident of a personal feud, I don't know what is.

[BROnana]

What are your thoughts on BROrange and SLAUGHTERmelon? They are two people I am considering voting.

Reporting in. Nothing happened to me. brb catching up

Where are you?

[KILLERpeach]

Your actual vote came right after my fuck up. Not only that, but you quoted it out of spite before you voted me. If that's not evident of a personal feud, I don't know what is.

I don't need to lie. It's a fact i thought that coconut was you. Why should i lie? Like i said you try to get your head out of the sling now with creating an illusion. I can state it as many times you want me to do. You are clearly lurking scum and you are a good lynch. Nothing more nothing less.

I quoted you just for paying you back from the other game. I do stuff like that without having personal wars with anybody. A personal war with me looks a lot different.

[PAINapple]

KILLERpeach and MANgo, watch how you active meta people. Clementine already warned you guys.

Afternoon everyone, from what I can take from the conversation while just skimming..

Some of yesterdays lurkers are posting more. This could be so they don't get lynched. This also could be because they have a lot more time today.
Why is KILLERpeach pushing so hard on MANgo, instead of one of the other lurkers? BROconut hasn't posted much today, just a triple post about how I was lynch training him.
Im going to reread some more. All today has been is KILLERpeach meta day. I want to reread MANgo's posts. BRB

[clementine]

The rain gradually came to a halt. As the clouds began to clear, a malaise settled over the animals of the Pride lands like a disease. After the death of their lioness, accusations were thrown rampant, yet nothing yet had been done to take care of the killers at large. Would Rafiki, Nala, and the innocent bystander sheep remain unavenged?

Vote Tally:
BROconut (3): BROnana, BROrange, PAINapple
MANgo (1): KILLERpeach
gRAPEfruit (1): BROcumber

It takes 9 votes to lynch or skip day.

[BROnana]

We should start piling votes onto someone soon. They might not be your first choice but we need to come to a consensus on someone by the end of the day. There are 9 town, 6 mafia and Winnie the Pooh left so we could lose the majority tomorrow.

[PAINapple]

Remember we have like 35 hours or something left. We do have time, so lets use it to our advantage.
Anyone who hasn't made a few posts contributing by the 24 hour mark should be on the top of the scum list, IMO.

[peabNUT]

I'm here. I'm sad I lost my double vote at the end of the day. I hope bronana isn't mad I voted him. Nothing happened to me

[KILLERpeach]

Why are you sad? It's not like you tried to do something with them.

[BROmato]

What are your thoughts on BROrange and SLAUGHTERmelon? They are two people I am considering voting.

i''ll bite. BROrange seems like he follows you alot. that's the impression i get. also SLAUGHTERmelon was the first to post but it had nothing of value in it. but that means he was eager to check for notifications for some reason

[MANdarine_orange]

I'm back and I'm going full steam ahead.
It's hard to tell if someone is scummy or just stupid. There are
veterans hidden amongst the wild grass.
That is all.

[MANdarine_orange]

RULE NUMBER ONE: PAINAPPLE IS PRETTY SCUMMY I THINK KEEP AN EYE ON HIM

[PAINapple]

I'm back and I'm going full steam ahead.
It's hard to tell if someone is scummy or just stupid. There are
veterans hidden amongst the wild grass.
That is all.

confucius say.
What does that mean?

As I am posting this, I see that you call me out at scum number one. Why?

[MANdarine_orange]

WHY does MANgo say MOB instead of MAFIA!?

[PAINapple]

WHY does MANgo say MOB instead of MAFIA!?

Y U NO answer question?

[MANdarine_orange]

FOR NOW MANgo seems like the PERFECT candidate for a LYNCH at the moment BUT TRAINS ARE DANGEROUS SO BE CAREFUL CROSSING THE TRACKS

[MANdarine_orange]

I just THOUGHT THAT YOU SEEMED A LITTLE BIT MAYBE KINDA SUSPICIOUS, kay?

[PAINapple]

I just THOUGHT THAT YOU SEEMED A LITTLE BIT MAYBE KINDA SUSPICIOUS, kay?

KK Gore

[MANdarine_orange]

YEP MANGO IS WAY TO DEFENSIVE I HATE THE CUT OF HIS BIB -vote MANgo

[MANdarine_orange]

Just because this KILLER guy is all meta doesn't mean he ain't RIGHT. @Painapple

[MANdarine_orange]

Getting a clear idea of who seems "off" and who seems SMOOTH SWEET SMOOTH

[PAINapple]

Just because this KILLER guy is all meta doesn't mean he ain't RIGHT. @Painapple

But KILLER *was* pushing a lynch on MANgo for meta reasons.
I don't feel comfortable lynching on meta. Unless you have some other evidence, the only reason MANgo was considered was because of lurkerness. I think he has proven that he has stopped lurking for time being.
BROconut, among others, have yet to post or posted something that isn't contributing.
MANgo is suspicious, but others are more so, IMO.


Again, I will be willing to vote for whatever scummy person there is, but lets wait a few more hours, to see if anyone else posts before we change votes.

[clementine]

Vote Tally:
BROconut (3): BROnana, BROrange, PAINapple
MANgo (2): KILLERpeach, MANdarine_orange
gRAPEfruit (1): BROcumber

It takes 9 votes to lynch or skip day.

[MANdarine_orange]

Look at the NON-META arguments and SEE THAT THEY MAKE SENSE. DUHHHHH ITS OBVIOUS. HE'S BEING REALLY DEFENSIVE AND SERIOUS ABOUT THIS. HE'S OVER EXPLAINING AND GETTING HIS LITTLE PINK KNICKERS IN A TWIST. Scummy.

[MANdarine_orange]

LET ME HEAR YOUR RHYTHM STICK PAINapple

[PAINapple]

Look at the NON-META arguments and SEE THAT THEY MAKE SENSE. DUHHHHH ITS OBVIOUS. HE'S BEING REALLY DEFENSIVE AND SERIOUS ABOUT THIS. HE'S OVER EXPLAINING AND GETTING HIS LITTLE PINK KNICKERS IN A TWIST. Scummy.

Dem Caps.
Let me re read the arguments.
I completely disregarded the argument because he voted for MANgo after he posted on his COM.
But you may be right, I'm go back and reread them.
Noobish Mistakes are noobish if you are right?

[PAINapple]

LET ME HEAR YOUR RHYTHM STICK PAINapple

Whoa!
Pedobear here?

Alright for real ima go back and read it now.

[MANdarine_orange]

WHAT DO YOU THINK PAINAPPLE?!? TELL ME YOUR SECRETS LITTLE FRUIT

[PAINapple]

I have reread some of the earlier posts.
He didn't vote until he fucked up and posted on his COM. Didn't even say anything about MANgo being scum until then...

MANgo is being really defensive.

hmmm

The question is why lynch him over others. The other lurkers have done a good job on not posting so far. Why waste valuable scumhunting time?
Depending on what the other lurkers do, then we can make a good decision on who to lynch today, but we cannot wait too long. If MANgo is actually a scum, we can't let him get away.
I'm also going to feel really bad if MANgo flips scum.

What are your thoughts?

[PAINapple]

Also, Zane.

WE NEED MOAR POKEBALLS NAO!

[MANdarine_orange]

The MOST DANGEROUS SCUM is SCUM THAT LEADS THE TOWN. A SKILLED PLAYER WILL BECOME A TOWN LEADER TO SWAY HIS OPPONENTS, AND SKILLED SCUM IS THE WORST KIND OF SCUM. LURKERS CAN JUST SIT BACK AND TWIDDLE THEIR FINGERS WHILE THEY POST OUT THEIR NIGHT ACTIONS AND WAIT TO BE LYNCHED. AN ACTIVE SCUM CAN USE WIFOM AND DIRECT THE DISCUSSION. MANGO IS CLEVER AND DANGEROUS.

[MANGERlNE]

Hey all. I'm not sure but has anyone mentioned that honeydude's death may be the result of an interceptor?

I could see the reason in attacking BROnana if I were mafia. With all the sheep and possibly Timon targeting him, they could have tried to make Timon search for a killer among them. An especially sneaky tactic! And a downside to having all the sheep targeting the same person. Worse if there is a framer too.

Therefore I suggest that Timon no longer watches the sheep block target, if we still do want to decide one (or he might do it anyway! lolWIFOM!). The night chat is already there it looks like, so he won't have to watch the person for that. Even though a directed sheep block makes it easy for a killer to hide, I still suggest that we proceed with it to not clutter Timon's and Pumba's results. The second doctor, if he exists, could maybe throw a heal at the sheep block target if he believes that person to be trustworthy. However, I think we may as well vote on sheep block targets we find suspicious. It's unlikely the mafia will kill them if we might lynch them, after all!

I agree that MANgo is a possible scummy fruitman! He has said very little before today and besides one post, most of it has been defensive and not very helpful to the town. I support a pressure vote on him.

vote MANgo

So far, Slaughtermelon has only been lurking and nay-saying to town coordination without sharing the love or any solid arguments! Does anyone else think he's scummy?

sheepblock vote SLAUGHTERmelon

[MANGERlNE]

So we are voting BROconut today because he hasn't contributed. I better contribute more.

I suspect you two have some information that you are holding out on us. I think I know. Lets just hope my hunch is right.

-Vote BROconut

They're definitely not Timon and Pumba because BROnana was blocked and their night chat won't open until tonight.

[MANdarine_orange]

A GOOD plan, MANgerine. I ENDORSE THIS

[MANGERlNE]

I love you too, you mighty strong manpig, you!