ROLE REVEAL! : Mass Murderer

[Damus_Graves]

X was found dead last night. His body was horridly mutilated

[BorkBot]

If you actually want to this role to add to the puzzle, you could give it the same message as the veteran...

[Auckmid]

Argh. I don't want another knife wielder. Give the MM an axe.

[Cryptonic]

If you actually want to this role to add to the puzzle, you could give it the same message as the veteran...

thiiiis lolol mass murderer + assault riffle? sounds logical.

[CmG]

He needs a fucking Chainsaw, or a Lawnmower! Also i want a hockey mask as a hat!

[Auckmid]

He needs a fucking Chainsaw, or a Lawnmower! Also i want a hockey mask as a hat!

+1. This guy is the first role in almost a year. He needs to be scary.

[Cryptonic]

He needs a fucking Chainsaw, or a Lawnmower! Also i want a hockey mask as a hat!

Chainsaw. I like that.
Actually. This whole post is awesome.

[Damus_Graves]

I support the vet death.merge actual.

[Glip]

I support the vet death.merge actual.

Why should the death description be merged with the Veteran?

So far, every single killing role has a unique death description. There's no reason to change that now.

I'd personally like to see something along the lines of an automatic weapon death description.

[Blazer]

He needs a fucking Chainsaw, or a Lawnmower! Also i want a hockey mask as a hat!

This. Right here.

[Ash]

This. Right here.

Where is Sumikoko? I think CmG is Sumikoko's smurf.

[Glip]

This. Right here.

A chainsaw is more of a serial killer type weapon than a spree killer type weapon.

While perhaps good in cutting down a single cornered victim, it would not be very effective in taking down multiple people fleeing in a public area, which is the typical environment for a spree killer.

[BorkBot]

Why should the death description be merged with the Veteran?

So far, every single killing role has a unique death description. There's no reason to change that now.

I'd personally like to see something along the lines of an automatic weapon death description.

mafioso/godfather/disguiser share a bunch of random messages I think. Granted, it doesn't give them any claiming options.

[MissingNo]

So far, every single killing role has a unique death description. There's no reason to change that now.

I would argue that it is a great reason to change it now. Having all of them be the same is far too chaotic, but if one pair was the same then it would be intriguing. It also works especially well since multiple people die at once and an MM is really just a mobile vet anyways.

Then when a couple ppl die to rifles+grenades, the vet has to make a choice to speak up and let all evil know hes the vet and lose out on a chance to kill them or remain silent and let the town be on a fruitless hunt for a MM.

It also gives the MM an easier role to claim and pretend to be.

[Mugy]

I wonder what the night sequence sounds would be for the Mass Murderer, I think chainsaw or something would be nice
Also how would you represent how many people were attacked by mass murderers in the night?

[Nick]

Visiting the same place and *tak tak tak tak tak*! Followed by Joker SFX.

[Blazer]

Visiting the same place and *tak tak tak tak tak*! Followed by Joker SFX.

u sir r a genius

[Elixir]

I wonder what the night sequence sounds would be for the Mass Murderer, I think chainsaw or something would be nice
Also how would you represent how many people were attacked by mass murderers in the night?

From what I hear it changes depending on how hardcore the spree is... The night seq I mean.

[Auckmid]

From what I hear it changes depending on how hardcore the spree is... The night seq I mean.

Thats nice. I wanted to suggest a machine gun for MM, but was worried that would be too "Modern". There may be still be hope

[Ash]

Thats nice. I wanted to suggest a machine gun for MM, but was worried that would be too "Modern". There may be still be hope

If you don't want to get modern, we can say "X was bombed by a TNT"

[Guardian]

..Or were suffocated I mean, chocked.. to death.

[Aewenluth]

In my opinion, "MM can target self" should not be an option. You can always stay at home if you want, I mean, you're a gigantic killer, you decide if you want to kill the one who visits you whatever (staying at home IS self target, it's not "no night's action"). Plus, that mades him a possible second Vet, which is nice.

I totally agree with different sounds depending on the amplitude of the spree.

Is he Cult-convertible?

[BorkBot]

Everything except mafia is cult convertable, because "infiltration" is a potential game breaker in small games. Masons are immune because of their nature. Other than that, the cultist has an option "night immunity prevents conversion" and the mass murderer has an option "night immune."

So I see no reason why the mass murderer should be inherently immune to conversion when there are options to make it so.

[CmG]

Name sounds stupid. Name it Jason and let him kill with chainsaws! EU approves!

[Cryptonic]

Where is Sumikoko?

that is what I thought of too

[Sanji]

Boring role with lame name

[Cryptonic]

Boring role with lame name

debbie downer over here

[Pokemon Trainer Red]

debbie downer over here

This guy.

[JordanMiller]

this sounds like a really fun addition, can't wait to try it!

[Lazers]

Any clear date when this role is going to appear in game?

[Chane]

that would make 4 roles with weapons.

I personally think this is to much. i'd rather see it be added to the lookout blackmailer or something like that.

or together with a new role a new invest line altogether.

[MissingNo]

that would make 4 roles with weapons.

I personally think this is to much. i'd rather see it be added to the lookout blackmailer or something like that.

or together with a new role a new invest line altogether.

Your target cares for nobody but himself. They may be a survivor or possibly a mass murderer.

Your target is unusually strange. They may be an amnesiac or maybe a witch.

---

This would also make being a survivor more difficult and more interesting than just saying day 1 "im a surv, dont touch me".

[Cryptonic]

Your target cares for nobody but himself. They may be a survivor or possibly a mass murderer.

Your target is unusually strange. They may be an amnesiac or maybe a witch.

---

This would also make being a survivor more difficult and more interesting than just saying day 1 "im a surv, dont touch me".

I think this is a good idea

[Lumieres]

I agree with MissingNo and Cryptonic

[Ash]

Your target cares for nobody but himself. They may be a survivor or possibly a mass murderer.

Your target is unusually strange. They may be an amnesiac or maybe a witch.

---

This would also make being a survivor more difficult and more interesting than just saying day 1 "im a surv, dont touch me".

It's gonna suck to be MM because you have to be a better liar then.

[BorkBot]

Survivors already get lynched often when town has noone better to lynch. They might hit a witch after all...

Something as deadly as this mass murderer should be paired with something the town is very reluctant to lynch, so it's not a no-brainer.

[MissingNo]

It's gonna suck to be MM because you have to be a better liar then.

Ummm Arson already has to try and pretend to be a BD which is nearly impossible.

[BorkBot]

I agree, the arsonist pairing is quite terrible and could definitely use some better options in there...

[Ash]

Ummm Arson already has to try and pretend to be a BD which is nearly impossible.

SK is paired with the doctor.
This is debatable.

[MissingNo]

SK is paired with the doctor.
This is debatable.

Yes but when you claim doc, you die to mafia. So pretending to be a doc isn't exactly amazing.

So for an sk, if they claim doc and dont die then its suspicious.

--------

Anyways, the current 3 pairings are weapons and loner. If you take vigi and pair it with MM then you got another near impossible lie situation for the mafioso.


At least when you claim surv it is possible that the town has a higher priority lynch and they wont hurt you. Also, you don't need to claim surv. You can call the invest a liar or say hes jester/exe or that he was witched, etc.

[Sanji]

I agree with MissingNo and Cryptonic

Thank you for providing us with this usefull information.

[CmG]

Now isn't he a lovely monkey our Sanji? We sure all love him on eu. "pets Sanjis head" Here my boy! A banana just for you!

[Sanji]

Now isn't he a lovely monkey our Sanji? We sure all love him on eu. "pets Sanjis head" Here my boy! A banana just for you!

Fu.

[Elixir]

Good news everyone.

The MM's weapon of choice has been decided. Night Seq is going to sound a whole lot cooler.

[Chane]

Good news everyone.

The MM's weapon of choice has been decided. Night Seq is going to sound a whole lot cooler.

a grenade? a Molotov? an ak-47? A DEATHNOTE?!?

[Blazer]

a grenade? a Molotov? an ak-47? A DEATHNOTE?!?

Deathnote? Kira alert! I weiner what weapon it is :o
Plz tell?

[McKinley]

Here's a great investigator message:

"You were killed by a Spree Killer!"

Yeah. I think that's the -best- investigative report you could possibly have. Putting in who you visit in your LW on N1 is going to become required now.

[Deantwo]

i know the role isn't totally finished yet... but i was thinking about adding it to the Wiki
but i noticed... that in the opening post... it doesn't say rather the role will be Adv. or Basic... i am guessing it'd be Adv. cause... well... it's not very simple math XD

[JackWolfsong]

Well, don't you find this role a tad too powerful? I mean Lookouts and Detectives (especially Detectives) aren't able to detect it by any means... I would consider makking a counter-role like:

Observer (Town/Advanced)
Describtion: You are a careful observer of what is going on in your neighbourhood making notes of what you see to help citizens survive the rainy days.
Abilities: Observer picks at the first night 4 targets and since that moment they are treated to be his neighbours. Every time the person lives his house the Observer gets one token for that person. Every time person of choice (neighbour) is visited by somebody the person visiting gets two virtual tokens on himself. Once Observer collects three tokens that person gets revealed (role starts to be known for Observer).

So, he gets the knowledge about all guys using their abilities every night targeted first night after fourth night (+token at N2, N3, N4) who are still alive. If some killer or possibly other role visits his neighbours previously visiting someone else that person gets reveled to him (4 tokens). That might be the way to get Mass Murderer revealed other than by Investigator or Sheriff. First option to do so is Targetting him as a neighbour (luckily) and waiting till he leaves house enough number of times. Another way is to have him (Mass Murderer) visiting your neighbours twice. Some deaths and theirs causes may grant some special information for Town once Observer gets to know his neighbours roles. It's very depending on the situation.

Observer can't detect Witch's powers.

Host Options:
- Number of neighbours: 2-5 (defaulty 4)
- Number of required tokens is equal: 2-5 (default 3)
- Message about the role is similar to Investigator's information and is not 100% accurate. (nerf)
- Observer may choose his targets during the day via -observe command. (mega powerful anti-killer buff)

Or at least apply option for Detectives and Lookouts to not visit their target's house just watching people coming in and out.

[Deantwo]

not sure it make total sense... but... what about "Leader Among Men"? Mayor and Mason Leader already have it easy as GF is mostly always immu to detection ^^;
so if Mass Murderer is "Leader Among Men" they'll have to think a little...