Suggestion: 3-4 "Random" roles.

[Sraw]

These "roles" would be filed under the random set.


Neutral Killer:
Randomly picks between Arsonist and Serial Killer
Adding this option would then remove the need of "Exclude Non-Killers" from Random Neutral.
Exclude Non-Killers shouldn't exist on Basic Neutral or Adv. Neutral anyway, as its 100% serial killer or arsonist respectively. (until you add more killers anyway)


Town Detector:
Randomly picks between Sheriff, Investigator, possibly Lookout, and Detective


Town Killer: (Name might need tweaking)
Randomly picks between Vigilante, Jailor, and possibly Bodyguard.


In the case of adding Cult Roles (I hope you do eventually)
Random Cult
Randomly picks between the roles allied with cult, like cult detector, cult blocker(escort/bg?), whatever gets added.

[Raptorblaze]

I like this idea.

[Ash]

These "roles" would be filed under the random set.


Neutral Killer:
Randomly picks between Arsonist and Serial Killer
Adding this option would then remove the need of "Exclude Non-Killers" from Random Neutral.
Exclude Non-Killers shouldn't exist on Basic Neutral or Adv. Neutral anyway, as its 100% serial killer or arsonist respectively. (until you add more killers anyway)


Town Detector:
Randomly picks between Sheriff, Investigator, possibly Lookout, and Detective


Town Killer: (Name might need tweaking)
Randomly picks between Vigilante, Jailor, and possibly Bodyguard.


In the case of adding Cult Roles (I hope you do eventually)
Random Cult
Randomly picks between the roles allied with cult, like cult detector, cult blocker(escort/bg?), whatever gets added.

I've already said how to fix Town Detector before:

Town Detector - Put Basic Town and exclude support and citizens.
Town Killer - I think Town Killer is probably power advanced. or support.
For neutral Killer - put random neutral and exclude everything except killing.

[Sraw]

I've already said how to fix Town Detector before:

Town Detector - Put Basic Town and exclude support and citizens.
Town Killer - I think Town Killer is probably power advanced. or support.
For neutral Killer - put random neutral and exclude everything except killing.

I know how to make them appear, I'm saying they should be their own separate "random role" due to the fact that these are very popular, or that they should be.
Specifically I have a problem with people doing random any (forced neutral) because they used their random neutral to be a serial killer or arsonist only.
The others are just icing on the cake and would work well imo. Start a game with 2 "Town Detectors" rather then a sheriff and an investigator, and throw in a town killer rather then either vig or jailor.

Edit: Your version of Town Detector also can have Doctors, which is fine, I use this method myself.

[creedkingsx]

I support this idea, very much so.

[ALL HAIL CTHULHU]

Even better: the whole "basic/advanced" "support/power" classification should be redone.

Seriously, it's confusing and non-intuitive.

Better segmentation would be like:

- No powers (cit, mason, mayor)
- Powers that do not effect other players (investigative)
- Powers that effect other players (anything from doc to vig)

[Ash]

Edit: Your version of Town Detector also can have Doctors, which is fine, I use this method myself.

nope. doctor is support.

[MissingNo]

I see no problem with having it like this:

random neut (excludes non killing)
random any (excludes town, excludes mafia, excludes killing)

You really shouldn't be using random any for anything else anyways since it disrupts the balance between mafia and town.

[creedkingsx]

I see no problem with having it like this:

random neut (excludes non killing)
random any (excludes town, excludes mafia, excludes killing)

You really shouldn't be using random any for anything else anyways since it disrupts the balance between mafia and town.

Balance is on the host, not the options.

[EliteMarine]

I approve this suggestion.

However, it would be tougher to get away with lies.

[Pokemon Trainer Red]

However, it would be tougher to get away with lies.

This.

[Ash]

I approve this suggestion.

However, it would be tougher to get away with lies.

If you have to lie about game mechanics, /facepalm

[odinsama]

If u want to lie on ur role, then put more random, if u don't want/need to use these specific randoms, juste don't use it.


And i'm always ok with suggestions who let us customize more our games. And in Pub games, guys will understand better what roles are availables (if they see town detector, easy to understand...and so on)

+1 !

[Damus_Graves]

indeedy. this has been moved onto R and D by creed and i +1 there. but ill +1 here to.

[Guardian]

I support this.

Mostly because it will make creating absurd balanced setups easier..

[Damus_Graves]

I support this.

Mostly because it will make creating absurd balanced setups easier..

Also provide easier WIFOM detection in game.

[Elixir]

We have an idea how to change up randoms.

We cant go into anything further yet, however.