Sliders for Role Abilities

[cookies4you]

In Mafia, changing the amount of charges an ability during Setup has requires a separate check-box for each number. My suggestion is to replace the check-boxes with a Slider.

If the check-boxes are replaced with Sliders, most roles can be given two extra options during setup, allowing for additional customization. In these slots, roles like the Janitor can be given optional settings such as "Detection Immunity" while other roles like the Vigilante could be given the "Pierce Night Immunity" and "Immune at night" abilities.

Basically, Sliders should replace check-boxes because check-boxes take up too much space.

[Blazer]

Seems like a decent enough idea ^^

[Raptorblaze]

Not sure how difficult it is code-wise but it's a good idea

[Ash]

Vigilante could be given the "Pierce Night Immunity" and "Immune at night" abilities.

Basically, Sliders should replace check-boxes because check-boxes take up too much space.

good suggestion. also, that would be too op for vigi imo, because then there is no point in night immunity.

[Cryptonic]

good suggestion. also, that would be too op for vigi imo, because then there is no point in night immunity.

how would that make vigi op?

sk cannot pierce immunity, can't hit his own team.
gf cannot pierce immunity, can't hit his own team.
vigi cannot pierce immunity, can hit his own team.

if anything, it would balance the town killing power.

[Ash]

how would that make vigi op?

sk cannot pierce immunity, can't hit his own team.
gf cannot pierce immunity, can't hit his own team.
vigi cannot pierce immunity, can hit his own team.

if anything, it would balance the town killing power.

FINE U WIN. i actually thought immunity was just to be OP.

[Brendan]

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[Cryptonic]

FINE U WIN. i actually thought immunity was just to be OP.

Easy solution to vigilante piercing immunity..
remove gf and sk and arson immunity
that's what I do lol

[creedkingsx]

I think this was discussed somewhere, I don't remember where there.

[cookies4you]

If the Vigilante could pierce immunity, I'd blacklist everything, nominate the Vigilante, and I'd call myself Batman.

[Nick]

Easy solution to vigilante piercing immunity..
remove gf and sk and arson immunity
that's what I do lol

You can just make
SK, GF, arson

NOT IMMUNE

[cookies4you]

You can just make
SK, GF, arson

NOT IMMUNE

The Suggestion isn't to give the Vigilante Immunity Piercing. It's to give him Sliders to replace check-boxes. The Piercing is just an example.

[EliteMarine]

how would that make vigi op?

sk cannot pierce immunity, can't hit his own team.
gf cannot pierce immunity, can't hit his own team.
vigi cannot pierce immunity, can hit his own team.

if anything, it would balance the town killing power.

Yeah, but town shouldn't be balanced in terms of killing power. You do that then it could be argued that mafia should have more than 3 members. If you do that might as well have 3 factions that are evenly balanced.

[Mugy]

Why not just have more checkboxes?

[odinsama]

Oh I like that idea, anyways, any "good" suggestion about making people able to personalize his setup... I love !

[Raptorblaze]

Why not just have more checkboxes?

GUI reasons, there's a maximum of 4 checkboxes per role.

[MissingNo]

how would that make vigi op?

sk cannot pierce immunity, can't hit his own team.
gf cannot pierce immunity, can't hit his own team.
vigi cannot pierce immunity, can hit his own team.

if anything, it would balance the town killing power.

Technically mafia can hit his own team with bus or witch.

Easy solution to vigilante piercing immunity..
remove gf and sk and arson immunity
that's what I do lol

I remove gf altogether and replace with a mafioso.

i would never remove immunity from sk or arson, however. Being a solo evil is tough enough (especially for an arson).

[Guardian]

I'm in for sliders!
especially if I can make Docs with limited heals

[Duzero]

I'm in for sliders!
especially if I can make Docs with limited heals

You crazy, people hate docs enough as it is.

[Elixir]

Might be possible with the new 1.5 Galaxy Editor.

Sure as hell wasn't before when we tried it.

So maybe, maybe not.

[cookies4you]

Might be possible with the new 1.5 Galaxy Editor.

Sure as hell wasn't before when we tried it.

So maybe, maybe not.

Sorry to resurrect such an old thread, but 1.5 was released recently, so I thought I'd revive this as well.

So, how did sliders work out for the 1.5 Editor?

[Dark.Revenant]

Sliders would be a huge pain to add, primarily because it would involve having to rearrange a ton of options throughout the code. Even if by some miracle everything didn't break, it would still take a shockingly long time to complete. Adding sliders for new roles wouldn't be as much of an ordeal, but would be an exercise in futility.

More checkboxes is possible (I can put up to 10 of them in there) but the problem is squeezing them into that small space. You forget that the map has to be playable on a 4:3 monitor and there is no empty space in the setup UI on a non-widescreen monitor. If you can come up with some kind of clever solution, though, I'm all ears.

[Guardian]

Maybe you could do it the same way the day time sliders are done?
Although, It would be a lot of work, considering there are about 18 roles to re-do, whatever the method used..

Good luck in it..

[Lazers]

Sliders would be a huge pain to add, primarily because it would involve having to rearrange a ton of options throughout the code. Even if by some miracle everything didn't break, it would still take a shockingly long time to complete. Adding sliders for new roles wouldn't be as much of an ordeal, but would be an exercise in futility.

More checkboxes is possible (I can put up to 10 of them in there) but the problem is squeezing them into that small space. You forget that the map has to be playable on a 4:3 monitor and there is no empty space in the setup UI on a non-widescreen monitor. If you can come up with some kind of clever solution, though, I'm all ears.

Perhaps an "options" or "additional options" button that would bring up more checkboxes in a new window? Dunno if that's possible

[McKinley]

Perhaps an "options" or "additional options" button that would bring up more checkboxes in a new window? Dunno if that's possible

Relplace the bottom most one with a button that pops up a new window that would select from different options, with a backgroud that isn't transparent. Yeah that could work, right?

[SayGen]

Good idea.

Also no one in my game has immunity.
Jailors get minimum exe, vig get minimum hsots, vet get minimum alerts, etc.

[Techies]

What's the point of a vigi that can't kill anything. I just limit his shots to two and make him pierce immunity. Godfather, SK, and Arso immune, forces them to go after each other if kill fails. Witch not immune, so he has to be more careful to make sue mafia don't kill him.

Also finding the Vigil as a witch is just lol.

Oh and on topic, too many options are also a bad thing, for every option a new conflict is created of how people want to play. There needs to be some "balance". The only option I'd want, like in the case of Vigil and Jailor is randomize amount uses, which could be the first option for the slider.