Day[9]

[Phoebe]

Because he is... =)

No, the Star Wars saga says he is from the Dark Side!

[Forum Mafia GM]

Luke also joins the dark side

[Monica]

Law is doing a very bad job at sweet talking Han. He should realize that Han could potentialy win solo, and calling him a F**king retard is hardly going to win Han over. While Han will get lynched post-game if he ends up throwing it all away, there's nothing anyone can critizize him on if he can pull off victory.

[FM Ferengi]

I'm really hoping that red looses right now...

[Boba]

I'm really hoping that red looses right now...

Me too... but they will win if Town helps the vote to lynch Wicket....

[Lando]

Me too... but they will win if Town helps the vote to lynch Wicket....

Actually, no.
Lynching Wicket removes a kpn and gives Town majority.
Vader shoots red, red shoots Town. Remaining red gets lynched.
3 Town and a Witch left. GG.

[Nina]

I'm really hoping that red looses right now...

because you would want shitty town to win.
riight

[FM Ferengi]

because you would want shitty town to win.
riight

Because Red went full retard and exposed themselves

[Lando]

Honestly, I want to see the evil neutrals win - alone. Though I wouldn't mind seeing the Witch die along the way.

[Boba]

because you would want shitty town to win.
riight

Maybe next game don't play so obviously scummy Nina. If I had a night kill you would never have made it to the surface.

Before you call anything else shitty, ensure that you are not a candidate for LVP, which you are...

[Boba]

Actually, no.
Lynching Wicket removes a kpn and gives Town majority.
Vader shoots red, red shoots Town. Remaining red gets lynched.
3 Town and a Witch left. GG.

because you would want shitty town to win.
riight

Right you are! Highly doubt that lynch will happen in less than 17 hours thou. Never know.

[Jabba]

Jabba for LVP.

[Gaunt]

I really hope Han dies in a fire

[Roger]

Jabba for LVP.

Brostin beat you to that.

[Roger]

I really hope Han dies in a fire

If han dies in a fire, Can i die in a pit of tar?

Wait, I'm already dead.

[Boba]

[COLOR="#008000"]Han is the hero that this TOWN deserves.

Hes Batman. [\COLOR]

[Boba]

[COLOR="#008000"]Han is the hero that this TOWN deserves.

Hes Batman. [\COLOR]

Color fail...

[Monica]

Let's have a look as to what could happen...

Wicket eats Luke
Vader shoots Law/Klaus
Han witches Law onto himself. If Vader kills Law, nothing happens. If Vader kills Klaus, Han gets the gun.

1 Enclave
1 Devourer
1 Witch
3 Town

No lynch

From there, Wicket holds all the cards. If he follows Han's demented plan, Wicket kills a town while Han witches Enclave into killing a town, while possibly using gun. Possible ways for Han to kill Wicket and fullfil his goal as solo witch victory, a possible way for Wicket to backstab Han to win solo, then the good old way which seems to be forgoten at the moment know as "Joint-victory".

However, Enclave could still be in this thing if Vader shoots Law(we're preaty boned if Klaus dies) and Wicket continues to stick with Enclave.
-Wicket eats Han
-Klaus kills town

1 Enclave
1 Devourer
2 Town

Victory ensures from there.

However, it is also possible that Vader shoots Wicket, leaving us with this.
2 Very angry Enclave
1 Witch with a gun
3 Town

Impossible to say how that one would turn out. It may also very well be the only possible senario where town actualy has a chance at victory. Wonder if Vader see's this


Big note: This whole analysis assumes that Law believes in these very convincing words by Han

I witched Law onto Luke... tell me I didn't give him a gun instead.

So...

Tl;dr: If Enclave trusts Han, Vader will either shoot Klaus, Law or Wicket. If Klaus gets shot then it looks like an evil neutral victory. If Law gets shot, game could either end in evil neutral victory OR Enclave + Devourer victory. If Wicket gets shot, anyone could win, including town(all depends on how much Han is willing to derp, and just how mad Enclave will be).

[Monica]

Wait, I made a mistake. It is also possible for Enclave to win, even if Law dies, though less likely.

[Forum Mafia GM]

FAQ #36 is also interesting and needs to be taken into account.

[Lando]

It indeed looks like a solo win attempt from the Witch. I can see it fail and Town win. ^^
I think the returning of items doesn't really matter. If Witch wants to win alone, she can single-handedly bring down the scum victory.

[Forum Mafia GM]

Well Wicket just PM'ed me the command to -reveal himself ^^

[Lando]

Well Wicket just PM'ed me the command to -reveal himself ^^

A Mayor Devourer revealed to the Survivors. Shake in fear before him, as he is the God of Death.

I expect a no-lynch today.
So, what could Witch be doing next night.

I expect Han to witch Law onto himself.

The devourer kill is kinda a gamble. Let's seperate it into 2 cases.
1) Vader gets Devoured.
Scum got majority. But Han may choose to abstain.... as the neutral.
As long as the devourer doesn't get lynched, he should just devour the Witch. Red can kill Town bringing it back to a tie.
2)Anyone else gets devoured
a)Vader chooses to kill red.
Tie. No-lynch or Devourer lynch.
In case of a no-lynch Devourer kills Witch, red shoots Town. In case of a Devourer lynch, Witch is in control of the Red's kpn via the gunsmith gun.
b)Vader chooses to kill Devourer.
Tie. No-lynch.
Witch is in control as long as Red and Town don't lynch Witch. But why would Town do that.

[Bragg]

I wonder why exactly Rodgers isn't available for freelynching...

[Roger]

I love seeing Leia's response about the aliens. Makes her seem insane and that she's lost all hope.

[Lando]

How do normal night actions (the roles action), gift actions (Vigilante gun/Gunsmith ability), Gunsmith guns and witching interact?

[Forum Mafia GM]

How do normal night actions (the roles action), gift actions (Vigilante gun/Gunsmith ability), Gunsmith guns and witching interact?

I made the mistake of replying to individual PM and now I've answered this question so many times xD

Vault 9 gifts are different to gunsmith guns, as I've mentioned - any remaining charges of the Vault 9 gift will be counted as the 'primary ability' (with the exception of the Veteran's AR because of the OoO) and the players normal ability will only be directed if it was used that night.

If a player with a gunsmith gun is witched, then *all* actions are manipulated that night.

[Lando]

I made the mistake of replying to individual PM and now I've answered this question so many times xD

Vault 9 gifts are different to gunsmith guns, as I've mentioned - any remaining charges of the Vault 9 gift will be counted as the 'primary ability' (with the exception of the Veteran's AR because of the OoO) and the players normal ability will only be directed if it was used that night.

If a player with a gunsmith gun is witched, then *all* actions are manipulated that night.

Does that mean that the gunsmith gun won't be used, unless the player chose to use it that night?

[Boba]

Does that mean that the gunsmith gun won't be used, unless the player chose to use it that night?

because you would want shitty town to win.
riight

Wait wait wait.... Did we just get surprised butt sexed?

[Lando]

Soooo, was Gunther the Alien Saboteur?
One-Man-lynch!

[Boba]

So FM Game Master, how many thus far have voted to end night early?

[FM Ferengi]

It's funny... everyone seems convinced that there is still an Orange alive.

[Lando]

It's funny... everyone seems convinced that there is still an Orange alive.

Oh, you.

[Forum Mafia GM]

So FM Game Master, how many thus far have voted to end night early?

Some, but it is not unanimous.

I have a feeling that the day will end quickly tomorrow, NCR are losing the advantages they had.

[Lando]

When will you end the game?
Will the game be played until a truly final conclusion, where everybody agrees with the result (meaning if Witch wants to win alone, it will be played to that point) or will the game end when Town is in minority and has no chance to regain majority by itself (as all scum roles can win together)?

[Forum Mafia GM]

When will you end the game?
Will the game be played until a truly final conclusion, where everybody agrees with the result (meaning if Witch wants to win alone, it will be played to that point) or will the game end when Town is in minority and has no chance to regain majority by itself (as all scum roles can win together)?

I think I settled on 'when the town have no chance to win the game' - it would be unfair of me, for example, to award the win to scum if there were three vigilantes and four mafia members left alive.

In this particular situation it's complicated. Besides, I can't validate any information - this is a game about deception, maybe Luke will convince the Witch and Devourer that he is part of the Brotherhood of Steel and come up with a plan to finish off the Enclave and go for the Brotherhood win. I think that scum will need to lynch a town member tomorrow to prove anything.

[Nina]

apparently ubernox isnt throwing game, just has a self proclaimed second objecitve to win alone for mvp
:< i just hope cmg doesnt die ^^

[Roger]

Ok, Who changed the title of the thread to make a Day9 reference?
I believe that's that it's referencing

[Forum Mafia GM]

[Gaunt]

Lets learn how to be a better liar with day 9!

[Forum Mafia GM]

But I am not Nina, Beru, Roger or Gaunt. I know how to play, and as much as I disdain Han, I don't plan on insulting him when he holds the fate of the game in his hands.

Just gonna chuck that out there, the Enclave night chat will be public soon after all.

COM names get revealed soon ^^

[Roger]

Just gonna chuck that out there, the Enclave night chat will be public soon after all.

COM names get revealed soon ^^

Lol, I always wondered who Law and Mkoll's COM was

[Lando]

Who is drawing out the night?
Wanna see something happening...

[Roger]

-Deadlynch Gunther
The alien (I think i spelled it right)

[FM Ferengi]

>.>

TROLOLOL

[Nina]

Just gonna chuck that out there, the Enclave night chat will be public soon after all.

COM names get revealed soon ^^

Law for mvp

[Lando]

Gunter was already dead-lynched! FMGM just didn't reveal him.
next up is -deadlynch Applejack

[Lando]

Yayap can you reveal Gunther's role pls? I can link you the post where he was lynched.

[FM Ferengi]

Yayap can you reveal Gunther's role pls? I can link you the post where he was lynched.

>.>

Go read the deadlynch thread...

[Monica]

So wait, I don't understand. Was the alien mothership just a place for Yayap to act out his multiple personality disorder while trolling the graveyard and the living?