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    Quote Originally Posted by FM South Korea View Post
    I admitted the claim was for attention and not real. He is a good Vig target however.
    Ya because I bet I have an idea of what your true role might be if your town. That is if you are a killing role....
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM South Korea View Post
    I chose India because there is virtually no argument for him being kept alive, therefore he's the only person we can switch the lynch train onto before day ends.
    You claimed vig did you not? Just shoot him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM Kenya View Post
    The difference is that Greenland's claim is confirmable. Egypt's is not.
    I lied i had an hour break apparently from work.

    Technically neither role is confirmable.

    Your point also doesnt stand, you are just biased to twist it to fact. There have been many cases where my play has done me well, you just hate it.

    Greenland hasn't even shown up to defend anymore, all hes done is not be here while everyone else is revolving around the claims now.

    Is it possible hes, BMed and tailored?
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    Well I'm not going to be here for end of day but I do have a theory. But it will be saved for tomorrow with my roleclaim.
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    @kenya:

    Again dont twist words to make them facts.

    My playstyle isn't bad, its different from what you like.
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    Or assumption...
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    Occam Razor:

    It states that among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected. Other, more complicated solutions may ultimately prove correct, butin the absence of certaintythe fewer assumptions that are made, the better.

    We are taking it to its core and going to the simple fact that someone could be lying.
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    Oh ya:

    FM Kenya: It's not that I'm bad, its that you just hate the playstlye.
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    Go right ahead Argentina. I won't defend myself.

    Other things that are inconsistent:

    Claims operator swapped the citizen.
    Still haven't taking into account an operator could of swapped him and a scum.
    Still haven't claimed framed.
    Claim role w/o a backup.
    Tries to twist logic to fit the role.
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    Thread:FM XXI: Day 2

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    Libia is hinting as CC, greenland...

    Anyway, nothing changed excepts a few of the people I thought were town. If greenland lives I would be more then happy to talk to him in an architect if one exists.

    My vote stays.
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    One more thing now that I thought about it:

    Know what I have a vauge idea of what you are now if your not mafia...

    Honestly, I will out what it is and not give jack shit how scummy it makes me look.

    I find this stupid delay game is now a waste of time.
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    Anyway gtg. BBL.
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    Disclaimer: Until Greenland proves his innocence, I am ignoring him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM Poland View Post
    Anyways, since this is apparently going to be delayed let me express my thoughts here. I want to make it clear that I trust Greenland has a dynamite defense that will clear him of all accusations. I do not believe however that means we should automatically lynch Egypt. I feel like targeting Greenland for investigation is a viable target given his clear attempts to lead town day 1, no doubt these thoughts also went through the mind of the mafia. If Greenland defends himself as well as I expect, then my first suspicions would be a framer amongst us.

    Then again, it is possible that Mafia tailored FM Greenland and then proceeded to force a lynch to confirm one of their own, so we will be by no means be able to trust Egypt as a PR based on the claim alone.
    That has so many wrongs in it...

    Greenland could claim getting a suit then.

    Greenland can make a lw that has the real role if flip fakes.

    If greenland is framed, why didn't he just come out and claim "I am framed"?

    Like i said, unless we have irrefutable evidence, toDays lynch should be greenland, otherwise we will be playing the "but what about greenland" game

    @new post: then you are the one who was role fishing....
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    Thread:FM XXI: Day 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM Greenland View Post

    Aww hell no. Can you OMGUS harder? I put my vote on Spain because I wanted to see him address Cyprus's post + why he said he read D1 and didn't have anything on it.

    This wasn't directed at you? Whats with the defensiveness?

    Because I don't want to waste time with people speculating about me being BM'ed/if I'm restricted? It's important to know if there's a blackmailer in this game, and you just made it harder to figure that out today.

    Wrong, its more like an attempt to grub for free town cred. You set it up with that post, what if you never said anything? All of this would be thrown out the window and never would of happened

    Why don't you actually quote posts or refer back to them? You did the same thing with your read on Poland, making blanket statements to discredit the player in question. I have plenty of posts, why don't you refer to all of them as opposed to picking out anything that you can spin badly? Plus you're role fishing here. I don't like how you OMGUSed me originally and then have eagerly jumped on Egypt's claim to get rid of me.

    I can blame you for same thing of role fishing from day one with king ale being mayor, also my case isnt OMGUS, you are jsut discrediting it like that. Refute the points at their core. I gave a general outline. I dont give shit about how you "don't like it"

    I'm also not "jumping on it" I have several suspects and you are also one of them. The fact that Egypt claimed is why I'm sheeping him.
    Really why do I even bother to respond to scums.... Unless if you can refute the claim by mod or some claim that is irrefutable. I refuse to continue discussion.

    Anything you say by words is something I will take for a grain of salt.
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    Thread:FM XXI: Day 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM Greenland View Post
    Part 2: Egypt, I'll give you a few hours to rescind or I will resolutely explain why you're lying.

    Spain, you haven't responded with reads on D1 yet.
    Can you disprove him is a better question.
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    Thread:FM XXI: Day 2

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    Also this:

    FM Spain (3 [L-14]):
    FM Greenland, FM South Korea, FM Kenya
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    Ok, I glanced though day 2 and feel like i just pegged mafia team all up...

    if greenland flips scum:
    consig is confirmed dead
    kenya become strong suspect due to "agreeing" that I'm scummy
    SK would be another good suspect for saying "greenland is town w/ mexico" as well as seemingly knowing consig is dead.
    Mexico would follow SK under that

    Poland has a chance of being scum but I would have him unaligned to mafia and be a neutral.

    I need to think everything out now, my gears are running...

    Expect a giant wall post of thoughts and everything later, if I don't get around to it it will be in my lw.

    I glanced though Greenland and if needed i could also build a case out of this against Greenland however a quick scan:

    Hunting neutrals? Check
    Grubbing for town points with the "blackmail"? Check
    Discrediting by saying things are scummy? Check
    Sheep avatar to look more "innocent"? Check

    That's a glance though, at this point, I'm not buying any claim unless it reveals to be mayor or Mason/ML and can name one other member.
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    Thread:FM XXI: Day 2

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    I saw something of intrest...

    If greenland does flip scum, it would almost confirm that consig is legit. Check start of day and who put out the "tailor/mafa" kill spec....
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    @Japan: its typical for things like that to happen

    @mexico: ˙˙˙ǝɹǝɥʇ pıp noʎ ʇɐɥʍ ǝǝs ı
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM Sweden View Post
    People who are farming for town points by putting down vote counts in their posts need to stop. There is a button for that at the top of every page in this thread. We don't need you to tell us.
    I'm not putting it down for town points....

    I'm putting it for reference later.

    Also counter-tailor idea:

    PUT YOUR REAL ROLE IN THE LAST WILL!

    Really if they want to do a full out clean a role (besides a possible janitor/disguised trick), they will need to not only change the LW but also the role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM Egypt View Post
    I return from my Gallivant just in time for China to be on my glorious little engine that could. (get it, he thinks he can...?)

    Anyway, I lied about not receiving feedback. I found a Mafia last night.

    -vote FM Greenland
    ^is the proof

    @mexico

    vote?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM Ireland View Post
    Well Egypt the biggest thing i want to see out of this is the fact he voted Spain and agreed with South Korea. I don't think South Korea is scum, but this vote and buddying with South Korea could explain stuff. As in Spain is prolly not mafia if Greenland flips mafia.
    Ireland, what about kenyas post of "I agree what I did was scummy"?

    For reference its post 199 here

    I agree on the scumminess of China. I seriously don't know why any town would blatantly point out your loophole like that. And China's mismatch on reads and votes is another red flag (pun intended).
    Mafia buddy right there?

    I ask anyone for imput on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM France View Post
    Bonjour! I greet you all! I am replaced in. I have no clue what the other guy was doing. I am going to read the day, can someone give me a summary of what just happened on day 1 and most of day 2?
    Vote greenland, we have mafia found
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    ITS JUST LIKE FM 20 ALL OVER AGAIN! BUT THIS TIME WITH MAFIA!
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    Random thoughts:

    Greenland flips scum: Kenya most likely aligned.

    Poland unlikely aligned but could still be non-town.

    I'm going to go back and look for connections.

    Quote Originally Posted by votecount
    FM Greenland (2 [L-15]):
    FM Egypt, FM China
    FM Cyprus (7 [L-10]):
    FM Argentina, FM Poland, FM Colombia, FM Saudi Arabia, FM Mexico, FM Norway, FM Brazil
    FM Spain (4 [L-13]):
    FM Greenland, FM South Korea, FM Ireland, FM Kenya
    FM Japan (1 [L-16]):
    FM Canada
    FM Saudi Arabia (1 [L-16]):
    FM Cyprus
    FM Italy (1 [L-16]):
    FM Russia
    FM USA (1 [L-16]):
    FM Libya
    FM Mexico (1 [L-16]):
    FM Iran
    Placeholing the vote count as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM Egypt View Post
    I return from my Gallivant just in time for China to be on my glorious little engine that could. (get it, he thinks he can...?)

    Anyway, I lied about not receiving feedback. I found a Mafia last night.

    -vote FM Greenland
    NOW THAT I'M SHEEPING BIG TIME

    -vote FM greenland
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    Also

    @greenland: its scummy that you say what I am doing is scummy and only do a discredit on me and not say I'm scum.

    Its also scummy that you say it like that when i was making an observation and someone else blew it out (you iirc) and then twist it to say "China is scummy for doing that"

    If anything you outing the fact your outing you not being BM and said you did it to help as an idea and then come to complain to me is scummy.

    Its as if your trying to get some town cred.

    What you basically did there from my POV is this:

    What you are doing is scummy, but I know you are not scum. So instead I am going to discredit you to make you look like a scummy player.

    So greenland: who are your scumspects and why?
    Same for you kenya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM Poland View Post
    @Greenland
    What's the case on FM Spain, I have a good vibe coming from him.
    How about this, what makes him "good" why not "town?

    @kenya

    Its how I play. I point out what I see.

    random thought:

    greenland/kenya are possibly aligned if one of them flips not town.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM Greenland View Post
    It's subjective, but I was trying to construct a specific loophole as I doubted blackmailer demands would try too hard D2 since noone would be clued in to give someone a way to claim it(a loophole you filled).

    And what, you believe more in your gut read on Cyprus then in your own reads (hint: paradox)? You're pointing fingers one way and pointing your votes the other. That's scummy, because it's setting yourself up for an excuse should a mislynch occur.

    South Korea is right. Spain, if you claim you read D1 then where are your reads from D1? You gave stuff on D2 and said you read D1, so where is it?
    -vote FM Spain


    Will be back later, if anyone has any questions/stuff they want to bounce off me address it with "@Greenland" if you please so it's easier to find.

    I'm really soft I promise!
    If I'm wrong, I am wrong and I suffer what happens. Its a paradox but really my role pm says I'm town. If I end up on a mislynch train, then I have to deal with it. I may be sheeping here, but don't worry I do have my own thoughts on the matter at hand.

    TLDR:

    Is it scummy: sure
    Do I care: no
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM Cyprus View Post
    Demands are not limited. So scum can:

    DO NOT CLAIM BLACKMAIL DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY
    DO NOT HINT BLACKMAIL
    etc.

    Blackmail can be easily circumvented by doing it tardily. For now I didn't see any, maybe perhaps Japan. But he has been unconvincing since D1.
    That's what I saw that made me think you didn't read that part. Might be more me misunderstanding. But meh...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM Greenland View Post
    Sigh. The point of that random movie statement was to give anyone who was blackmailed an indirect way to do so. Since you made it explicit China, there's a chance it becomes too direct to be claimable depending on the blackmailer's demands.

    That said, I'm surprised noone else is scared of a blackmailer. If anyone is blackmailed, please say something about the movie Blackmail - just google it.
    I state what I see, its all subjective really whats considered "directly/indirectly claiming"

    @cyprus: Plz tell me you saw the FAQ question about the "impossible bms?"

    I have confirmed Poland is most likely not part of our town.

    Shit reads? Check
    Only 4 scum reads out of what; 7-8 non-town aligned roles in list? check
    Fluff posting giant walls of nothing? check
    Deliberate fishing for information? check

    normally i would vote you but seeing how i have strong gut town on Cyprus and he agrees I'm sheeping him

    -vote fm Saudi Arabia
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    Poland: Who are your top scumspect and why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FAQ Questions
    Q: Can blackmail to ensure a certain player is lynched, or any result-oriented blackmail?
    A: No, a Blackmail must be in the form of "Do this" or "Don't do this". Specific goals will not be acceptable.
    Appropriate blackmail would be. Vote X in your first post and don't unvote or vote anybody else.

    Q: Can blackmail to spam one million post by day end, or anything that is not achievable?
    A: No, because it is a specific goal. They can tell the player to solely spam, but that is open to individual interpretation.

    Q: Can blackmail for consecutive nights?
    A: Yes

    Q: Can blackmail to "do not post at all"?
    A: Yes

    Q: Will players who are blackmailed not to post anything for consecutive nights modkilled?
    A: No, players won't be modkilled for not talking if there is a reason for them not talking.

    Q: Can players fulfill blackmail in an unconvincing way, by using loopholes or directly claim blackmail?
    A: Of course. And yes, players can claim blackmailed.

    Q: Are the number of demands limited?
    A: No, but I will be removing demands that are unreasonable from the list of demands (like make 1 million posts, suicide, ect)
    From FAQ...

    Maybe that should answer everything atm
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    So if anyone has anything to ask me go ahead, otherwise I'm just going to sit here and wait.
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    Random thoughts:

    Greenland is claiming or WIFOM that he's blackmailed.

    Poland is most likely scum for fluff posting giant walls of nothing and his "tryhard" contributing in those as well as continues fishing for information.

    Cyprus train is stupid because I said same exact thing and nobody even glanced at me for saying it.

    Whoever started the random tailor discussion/idea is probably a scum if that is a real consig. Anyone who is continuing it at this point is stupid or scum, its been going on long enough.

    that being said now moving vote to where it should be

    Libra is ML or moron for heavy specking cult leader shit. For day 1 and 2 due to how many other possible outcomes there can be.

    -vote FM Italy
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM Spain View Post
    China, could you please stop typing upside down?
    Yes I could.

    ɯʇɐ ɥɔnɯ ooʇ ʇı ʎoظuǝ ı ʇnq
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    ʍou ʇɐɥʍ 'snɹdʎɔ ɐ buıןןnd ɯ,ı 'ɐıqɯnןoɔ sǝʎ
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    ˙ʞɟɐ uɐɔ ı ʇɐɥʇ pǝɹɔ ɥbnouǝ ǝʌɐɥ oʇ ɯǝǝs ı 'ʞo
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM Italy View Post
    The fact that I can't search up a list of Australia's posts vexes me greatly.
    Post 22?
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    Odd....

    FM Australia made 1 post...

    #310

    Hey everyone, sorry to post so late, I had IRL issues but I'm here now.
    Nobody else mentioned him at all in the entire thread.
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    ǝɯ oʇ pǝuǝddɐɥ buıɥʇou

    I'm gonna go back to day 1 trollorgy and see if I can find anything of use.

    but for now
    -vote fm japan
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