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[QUOTE=thedougler;670264]Congressional Republicans held their 14 House seats in 2016 just to correct you (out of the state's 53 total). But yeah the state has come a long way since they voted decisively for Bush Sr. in 1988. Lots of people forget that California was seen as a Republican stronghold into the 1980s. Then all the illegals started having kids, on top of unprecedented levels of legal immigration. The demographic replacement became a political replacement. Non-Hispanic whites are an endangered breed there now and the few that remain are looking to greener pastures in Texas and anywhere with a better cost of living. In less than 40 years it went from paradise on earth to Mexico 2.0.

But the old adage, "as California goes, so goes the country" is true as ever. The other 49 states are demographically where California was about 20 years ago.[/QUOTE]

California GSP per Capita is $62,000, which is around the same as Norway's, and standard of living is one of the best in the entire country. In any list you find of best suburbs to live in, I would bet that Irvine, Newport Beach, Lake Forest, Rancho Santa Margarita, San Marcos, Rancho Cucamonga, Fountain Valley will make an appearance. And those are just the ones within an hour from my house.

Los Angeles has the most famous cultural icons in America, such as Hollywood and Beverly Hills, and projects American culture onto the world. San Francisco is one of the leading tourism and technology cities in America. We also have the best public universities in the world, and two of the best private universities in the world (Stanford and Caltech).

Our rural areas are also really nice and their work is a pride of our state (I refer you here to the state's massive agricultural economy and famous national park services). The state politics is where it gets tricky; part of the difficulty in convincing rural residents to vote Democrat is the fact that they don't get to see their tax dollars at work as frequently as urban voters do. Politicians generally don't budget for improving rural roads, infrastructure, etc. So it's not hard to see where the frustration that rural voters have towards Democrats stem from. This is an issue I think our state will be struggling with for years to come, but for the meantime, I would honestly say California has some of the nicest rural land and the social programs, such as Medi-cal and Cal-grant, reach out to every resident, urban and rural. Taxes are expensive to pay for programs, yes, but there is no place I'd rather see my money go than back to the people.

So what did you mean by California is Mexico 2.0? Surely you couldn't have been talking about the quality of life here. If you meant demographics, then that's a valid point, but as a lifelong California resident, I can tell you that no matter the color of the people here, we all do love the red, white, and blue.

Originally Posted by thedougler

Congressional Republicans held their 14 House seats in 2016 just to correct you (out of the state's 53 total). But yeah the state has come a long way since they voted decisively for Bush Sr. in 1988. Lots of people forget that California was seen as a Republican stronghold into the 1980s. Then all the illegals started having kids, on top of unprecedented levels of legal immigration. The demographic replacement became a political replacement. Non-Hispanic whites are an endangered breed there now and the few that remain are looking to greener pastures in Texas and anywhere with a better cost of living. In less than 40 years it went from paradise on earth to Mexico 2.0.

But the old adage, "as California goes, so goes the country" is true as ever. The other 49 states are demographically where California was about 20 years ago.

California GSP per Capita is $62,000, which is around the same as Norway's, and standard of living is one of the best in the entire country. In any list you find of best suburbs to live in, I would bet that Irvine, Newport Beach, Lake Forest, Rancho Santa Margarita, San Marcos, Rancho Cucamonga, Fountain Valley will make an appearance. And those are just the ones within an hour from my house.

Los Angeles has the most famous cultural icons in America, such as Hollywood and Beverly Hills, and projects American culture onto the world. San Francisco is one of the leading tourism and technology cities in America. We also have the best public universities in the world, and two of the best private universities in the world (Stanford and Caltech).

Our rural areas are also really nice and their work is a pride of our state (I refer you here to the state's massive agricultural economy and famous national park services). The state politics is where it gets tricky; part of the difficulty in convincing rural residents to vote Democrat is the fact that they don't get to see their tax dollars at work as frequently as urban voters do. Politicians generally don't budget for improving rural roads, infrastructure, etc. So it's not hard to see where the frustration that rural voters have towards Democrats stem from. This is an issue I think our state will be struggling with for years to come, but for the meantime, I would honestly say California has some of the nicest rural land and the social programs, such as Medi-cal and Cal-grant, reach out to every resident, urban and rural. Taxes are expensive to pay for programs, yes, but there is no place I'd rather see my money go than back to the people.

So what did you mean by California is Mexico 2.0? Surely you couldn't have been talking about the quality of life here. If you meant demographics, then that's a valid point, but as a lifelong California resident, I can tell you that no matter the color of the people here, we all do love the red, white, and blue.

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Btw- If Trump Nuked California I would giggle. I say that and I lived there for 4 years. A significant amount of people in that state are kinda shitty human beings from my experience. If you go to New York or Chicago there may be assholes everywhere but they are still good people.[/QUOTE]

It's actually really sad that you think this, considering all of the times you showed genuine compassion and respect when talking to other people. For all the political differences I have with Trump, his administrations, and his voters, I would never delight in the thought of violence against them.

Originally Posted by Helz

Btw- If Trump Nuked California I would giggle. I say that and I lived there for 4 years. A significant amount of people in that state are kinda shitty human beings from my experience. If you go to New York or Chicago there may be assholes everywhere but they are still good people.

It's actually really sad that you think this, considering all of the times you showed genuine compassion and respect when talking to other people. For all the political differences I have with Trump, his administrations, and his voters, I would never delight in the thought of violence against them.

wow granting exemptions countries that he has business dealings in :thinking:

sounds a little corrupt tbqh family :thinking: :thinking:

wow granting exemptions countries that he has business dealings in

sounds a little corrupt tbqh family