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Huh...I didn't realize that.

Been drinking a bit.

Huh...I didn't realize that.

Been drinking a bit.

[QUOTE=FM-Once Upon a Town;957821]lol you ACTUALLY did... I'm cringing hard[/QUOTE]

Don't worry...

I'M here.

Originally Posted by FM-Once Upon a Town

lol you ACTUALLY did... I'm cringing hard

Don't worry...

I'M here.

[VOTE]Deathworldz[/VOTE]

-vote Deathworldz

[QUOTE=Gikkle;957762]Can we rule of 3 this?[/QUOTE]

....

how the fuck do I vote I never actually voted in this game yet?

Originally Posted by Gikkle

Can we rule of 3 this?

....

how the fuck do I vote I never actually voted in this game yet?

[B][SIZE=7]YEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

YES

YES
YES

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/SIZE][/B]

YEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

YES

YES
YES

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm gonna be sick if this hits town.

I'm gonna be sick if this hits town.

[COLOR="#FF0000"][SIZE=7]SHOOT MARTINGG99[/SIZE][/COLOR] [MENTION=45590]Guillotina[/MENTION]

SHOOT MARTINGG99 @Guillotina

Alright well...

Share your energy with me...

Alright well...

Share your energy with me...

The Martin shot would reveal a lot more information than anything, could clear Gikkle if flipped town but is that worth losing a town over?

Not disrespecting Gikkle, just numbers being short.

The Martin shot would reveal a lot more information than anything, could clear Gikkle if flipped town but is that worth losing a town over?

Not disrespecting Gikkle, just numbers being short.

[QUOTE=Takumi Fujiwara;957686]Just shoot me so I can watch them eat you after my flip. I'm the only one who actually town-read you for your tone during, whatever the hell that was yesterday.[/QUOTE]

Last night or Day 1?

Originally Posted by Takumi Fujiwara

Just shoot me so I can watch them eat you after my flip. I'm the only one who actually town-read you for your tone during, whatever the hell that was yesterday.

Last night or Day 1?

[QUOTE=BradLand;957684]I have 1 shot and I really want to hit mafia but I'm not totally sure to who to shoot or don't have a full scumread.[/QUOTE]

Especially after I fucked up on the first shot.

Originally Posted by BradLand

I have 1 shot and I really want to hit mafia but I'm not totally sure to who to shoot or don't have a full scumread.

Especially after I fucked up on the first shot.

I have 1 shot and I really want to hit mafia but I'm not totally sure to who to shoot or don't have a full scumread.

I have 1 shot and I really want to hit mafia but I'm not totally sure to who to shoot or don't have a full scumread.

[QUOTE=deathworlds;957682]do you think sean wasn't killed by scum?[/QUOTE]

No I meant I beg to differ on the "competent town" part.

Could be killed by scum, seen it before.

Originally Posted by deathworlds

do you think sean wasn't killed by scum?

No I meant I beg to differ on the "competent town" part.

Could be killed by scum, seen it before.

[QUOTE=deathworlds;957680]I'd hope so since he was probably the most competent town and a likely scum kill target[/QUOTE]

I beg to differ.

Originally Posted by deathworlds

I'd hope so since he was probably the most competent town and a likely scum kill target

I beg to differ.

Hmmm...Death for that bad shot attempt or Taku?

Hmmm...Death for that bad shot attempt or Taku?

[QUOTE=hollowkatt;957654]I'd say keep shooting loldebite but he's a town read of mine and seanzie isn't here to yell at me for saying this[/QUOTE]

Do you think I care about what Sean thinks at this rate?

Originally Posted by hollowkatt

I'd say keep shooting loldebite but he's a town read of mine and seanzie isn't here to yell at me for saying this

Do you think I care about what Sean thinks at this rate?

[MENTION=46060]hollowkatt[/MENTION]

You fine with me shooting Takumi?

@hollowkatt

You fine with me shooting Takumi?

Son of a bitch

Son of a bitch

I'm here, I'll wait for results.

I'm here, I'll wait for results.

The most I've seen if possible ITA usage on Oliverz which I'm fine with since I can't fucking understand what he's saying.

The most I've seen if possible ITA usage on Oliverz which I'm fine with since I can't fucking understand what he's saying.

I've given up on backreading because I've done so much of it the past week and a half.

What's going on currently?

I've given up on backreading because I've done so much of it the past week and a half.

What's going on currently?

I'm going to have to go to bed, but I'll be back tomorrow and I'll have a talk with y'all hopefully get some answers.

For some reason this game feels tough beyond Paopan being obvious mafia.

Perhaps it's probably because I just suck. Either way.

I'm going to have to go to bed, but I'll be back tomorrow and I'll have a talk with y'all hopefully get some answers.

For some reason this game feels tough beyond Paopan being obvious mafia.

Perhaps it's probably because I just suck. Either way.

Like there could be a card used to force mafia to not night kill...but is that really a thing you want to be doing as scum?

Like there could be a card used to force mafia to not night kill...but is that really a thing you want to be doing as scum?

[MENTION=45931]Gikkle[/MENTION]

If there's ONE player in this remaining list that would be afraid of you finding them as mafia, who would it be?

@Gikkle

If there's ONE player in this remaining list that would be afraid of you finding them as mafia, who would it be?

I think night kills are mandatory btw? So can't see mafia holstering there.

I think night kills are mandatory btw? So can't see mafia holstering there.

Okay took forever backreading because I got bored and distracted.

Town:
HollowKatt
Loldebite
PQR
Stealth

Readjusting, HK, Loldebite, and PQR sound the same. HK is outing good takes, Loldebite has the same bite he's had during Day 1 regarding reacting to what people are saying at times, PQR I'm agreeing with HK that the revealing of the early hammer and attempting of explanation felt very good.

Townlean:
Tuki

Tuki is sort of asking the same questions I am so I kind of feel good about him? I don't like that his yeet options are HK and SB, but can see his thought process regarding the bus driving stuff.


Martin and Gikkle are now stuck in this weird ass mech regarding the bus driving that I need more answers on.

Deathworlds I kinda glossed over and need a better attempt at reading him before I state a read there.

Oliver's posts don't make me feel any better after Gesk's posts Day 1 weren't helpful. Possible vote option for me.

This is the best that I got, guaranteed I'm townreading a wolf with how many I have.

Okay took forever backreading because I got bored and distracted.

Town:
HollowKatt
Loldebite
PQR
Stealth

Readjusting, HK, Loldebite, and PQR sound the same. HK is outing good takes, Loldebite has the same bite he's had during Day 1 regarding reacting to what people are saying at times, PQR I'm agreeing with HK that the revealing of the early hammer and attempting of explanation felt very good.

Townlean:
Tuki

Tuki is sort of asking the same questions I am so I kind of feel good about him? I don't like that his yeet options are HK and SB, but can see his thought process regarding the bus driving stuff.


Martin and Gikkle are now stuck in this weird ass mech regarding the bus driving that I need more answers on.

Deathworlds I kinda glossed over and need a better attempt at reading him before I state a read there.

Oliver's posts don't make me feel any better after Gesk's posts Day 1 weren't helpful. Possible vote option for me.

This is the best that I got, guaranteed I'm townreading a wolf with how many I have.

[QUOTE=Loldebite;957159]The BD i know works as follow : If players A & B are bussed, players targetting A will end up visiting B, and players targetting B will end up visiting A.
[/QUOTE]

I've always known Bus Driving to be 1 way only but it could just be host interpretation of the role?

I don't see how Gikkle would be a night kill, no offense to Gikkle, but he wasn't in any town cores and was being pushed, and wasn't really being that loud of a voice? It's weird.

Originally Posted by Loldebite

The BD i know works as follow : If players A & B are bussed, players targetting A will end up visiting B, and players targetting B will end up visiting A.

I've always known Bus Driving to be 1 way only but it could just be host interpretation of the role?

I don't see how Gikkle would be a night kill, no offense to Gikkle, but he wasn't in any town cores and was being pushed, and wasn't really being that loud of a voice? It's weird.

[QUOTE=Takumi Fujiwara;956981]Also, Town!Martin would want to protect Seanzie there, I think. But Town!Martin switching him with Gikkle doesn't make much sense to me. If I were in that position to bus I'd swap Seanzie with a lowposter or something. Gikkle should have been a prime target for town night kills/investigations etc.[/QUOTE]

Actually Takumi ends up saying what I just said in my last post right here. Why is Seanzie at the receiving end?

Originally Posted by Takumi Fujiwara

Also, Town!Martin would want to protect Seanzie there, I think. But Town!Martin switching him with Gikkle doesn't make much sense to me. If I were in that position to bus I'd swap Seanzie with a lowposter or something. Gikkle should have been a prime target for town night kills/investigations etc.

Actually Takumi ends up saying what I just said in my last post right here. Why is Seanzie at the receiving end?

[QUOTE=hollowkatt;956980]I'm trying to follow his logic there.

Martin thinks gikkle is suspicious.

He drives gikkle and seanzie thinking seanzie is a probable NK target

he says town targeted gikkle with killing action, redirected to seanzie, without martin realizing that town could or would do that.

and the conclusion is that if seanzie was the NK target it would have taken out gikkle instead, resolving martins suspicion there and saving seanzie from a probable night kill... ok yeah I follow your conclusion now.

possible I guess? Comes down to who do you trust more, martin or gikkle really.[/QUOTE]

I always thought Bus Driver role went from Point A to Point B, but never Point B to Point A, like it would only be 1 way, which meant that Martin bus drove Gikkle to Seanzie...

Which makes no sense to put Seanzie at the receiving end of the Bus Driving because the dude, despite pissing me off in the middle of the day, was obvious town.

Originally Posted by hollowkatt

I'm trying to follow his logic there.

Martin thinks gikkle is suspicious.

He drives gikkle and seanzie thinking seanzie is a probable NK target

he says town targeted gikkle with killing action, redirected to seanzie, without martin realizing that town could or would do that.

and the conclusion is that if seanzie was the NK target it would have taken out gikkle instead, resolving martins suspicion there and saving seanzie from a probable night kill... ok yeah I follow your conclusion now.

possible I guess? Comes down to who do you trust more, martin or gikkle really.

I always thought Bus Driver role went from Point A to Point B, but never Point B to Point A, like it would only be 1 way, which meant that Martin bus drove Gikkle to Seanzie...

Which makes no sense to put Seanzie at the receiving end of the Bus Driving because the dude, despite pissing me off in the middle of the day, was obvious town.

[QUOTE=BradLand;957151][MENTION=21928]MartinGG99[/MENTION]

Martin - Explain your Bus Driver card for me. What happens when you target Player A and Player B?
Or can you explain fully what you did during Night 1? Please?


[SPOILER=What I thought Bus Driver Was:]I thought when you did a Bus Driver role, when you select Player A, you take the actions that occur to Player A, and switch them to Player B.
However from what I'm reading the role/action isn't like that?)[/SPOILER][/QUOTE]

If the Bus Driver card was "Take a player's action and redirect it towards someone else" why did you target Sean to be the target of the attack and not someone who wasn't universally townread?

Like there's something missing in this action, because it doesn't add up or make sense.

Originally Posted by BradLand

@MartinGG99

Martin - Explain your Bus Driver card for me. What happens when you target Player A and Player B?
Or can you explain fully what you did during Night 1? Please?

Spoiler : What I thought Bus Driver Was: :

I thought when you did a Bus Driver role, when you select Player A, you take the actions that occur to Player A, and switch them to Player B.
However from what I'm reading the role/action isn't like that?)

If the Bus Driver card was "Take a player's action and redirect it towards someone else" why did you target Sean to be the target of the attack and not someone who wasn't universally townread?

Like there's something missing in this action, because it doesn't add up or make sense.

[QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;956879]Uh, yikes, I hard disagree with this. He played EXACTLY like this in Politico II where he was town. I would know, I scumpainted him for it.[/QUOTE]

Who is this talking about?

Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

Uh, yikes, I hard disagree with this. He played EXACTLY like this in Politico II where he was town. I would know, I scumpainted him for it.

Who is this talking about?

Oliver is relatively the same as well his typing is all over the place it's giving me a massive headache.

Oliver is relatively the same as well his typing is all over the place it's giving me a massive headache.

I'm backreading but the way Martin is talking is 100% confusing for me and I don't understand a single post from him. Like they're worded in a weird way.

I'm backreading but the way Martin is talking is 100% confusing for me and I don't understand a single post from him. Like they're worded in a weird way.

[MENTION=21928]MartinGG99[/MENTION]

Martin - Explain your Bus Driver card for me. What happens when you target Player A and Player B?
Or can you explain fully what you did during Night 1? Please?


[SPOILER=What I thought Bus Driver Was:]I thought when you did a Bus Driver role, when you select Player A, you take the actions that occur to Player A, and switch them to Player B.
However from what I'm reading the role/action isn't like that?)[/SPOILER]

@MartinGG99

Martin - Explain your Bus Driver card for me. What happens when you target Player A and Player B?
Or can you explain fully what you did during Night 1? Please?

Spoiler : What I thought Bus Driver Was: :

I thought when you did a Bus Driver role, when you select Player A, you take the actions that occur to Player A, and switch them to Player B.
However from what I'm reading the role/action isn't like that?)

And I shot because, I like shooting and I want to hit a wolf.

Of course my dumbass was more detrimental to town than helpful.

And I shot because, I like shooting and I want to hit a wolf.

Of course my dumbass was more detrimental to town than helpful.

[QUOTE=Loldebite;956991]Was that a one-shot gun ? Why'd you shoot D1 ?[/QUOTE]

I can shoot after a wolf flip.

Originally Posted by Loldebite

Was that a one-shot gun ? Why'd you shoot D1 ?

I can shoot after a wolf flip.

Also apparently I got a Day Vig shot but day kills that aren't ITA's and Day Vote Offs are off the table so it's not going to do anything.

Appreciate the thought though, to whoever gave me that.

Also apparently I got a Day Vig shot but day kills that aren't ITA's and Day Vote Offs are off the table so it's not going to do anything.

Appreciate the thought though, to whoever gave me that.

I'm here really quickly and I gotta leave because I'm going to AEW tonight.

I claim the Boba Fett shot. I thought between Paopan's treatment of other slots and the way he was low key I thought he'd be the best chance to flip mafia.

I didn't think he'd have a GvD card though, I've never actually seen the individual in a game so I'm mostly regretting that I killed him while he had that activated, sorry BF.

I'll be back on tonight after I'm home.

I'm here really quickly and I gotta leave because I'm going to AEW tonight.

I claim the Boba Fett shot. I thought between Paopan's treatment of other slots and the way he was low key I thought he'd be the best chance to flip mafia.

I didn't think he'd have a GvD card though, I've never actually seen the individual in a game so I'm mostly regretting that I killed him while he had that activated, sorry BF.

I'll be back on tonight after I'm home.

It's also weird seeing people saying mafia having a 24/7 chat is a plot point for a game. Don't think I've ever seen a game without a 24/7 chat.

It's also weird seeing people saying mafia having a 24/7 chat is a plot point for a game. Don't think I've ever seen a game without a 24/7 chat.

Shit I'm not sure where to go here.

Shit I'm not sure where to go here.

I'll be back I gotta calm down.

Sorry for that outburst I fucking can't take this shit.

I'll be back I gotta calm down.

Sorry for that outburst I fucking can't take this shit.

Like this game was actually fun, and then this guy barges in and ruins fucking everything in it. Like I legitimately can't have 1 decent game without this bullshit.

Like this game was actually fun, and then this guy barges in and ruins fucking everything in it. Like I legitimately can't have 1 decent game without this bullshit.

[MENTION=46066]Seanzie[/MENTION]

Like, legitimate fucking question, do you actually read the individual that you're talking to, or do you just fucking throw a random read on them and just twist every fucking thing they say into that read?

You literally just ignore what the person is doing and just fucking tunnel, it's fucking bullshit how you treat people in games.

@Seanzie

Like, legitimate fucking question, do you actually read the individual that you're talking to, or do you just fucking throw a random read on them and just twist every fucking thing they say into that read?

You literally just ignore what the person is doing and just fucking tunnel, it's fucking bullshit how you treat people in games.

Like literally Seanzie just fucking lies every fucking game and thinks it's cool.

Like why do people fucking lie all the fucking time?

What the fuck?

Like literally Seanzie just fucking lies every fucking game and thinks it's cool.

Like why do people fucking lie all the fucking time?

What the fuck?

[QUOTE=Seanzie;956393]Starting to think you're scum here, so let's go with the tunnel option.

I didn't lie. Sorry you're annoyed, but your feelings are on you. Perhaps you and I have a different view on the topic, but I wouldn't call what I did on Page 1 tunneling. You've never seen me tunnel. You might this game if you're scum though.[/QUOTE]

[B][SIZE=7]YOU LITERALLY FUCKING DID IT IN THE FUCKING SYNDICATE GAME!

HOLY FUCKING SHIT YOU'RE FUCKING INSUFFERABLE[/SIZE][/B]

Originally Posted by Seanzie

Starting to think you're scum here, so let's go with the tunnel option.

I didn't lie. Sorry you're annoyed, but your feelings are on you. Perhaps you and I have a different view on the topic, but I wouldn't call what I did on Page 1 tunneling. You've never seen me tunnel. You might this game if you're scum though.

YOU LITERALLY FUCKING DID IT IN THE FUCKING SYNDICATE GAME!

HOLY FUCKING SHIT YOU'RE FUCKING INSUFFERABLE

Also sorry for the shit mood I'm in right now, I'll try to tone it down and get into solving.

Also sorry for the shit mood I'm in right now, I'll try to tone it down and get into solving.

[QUOTE=PQRnHack;956388]What does CW mean?[/QUOTE]

Counterwagon

Originally Posted by PQRnHack

What does CW mean?

Counterwagon

Speaking of top wagons:

What is the vote count currently?

Speaking of top wagons:

What is the vote count currently?

Okay I get shooting in the top wagons to narrow down and stop people from hero shooting.

But I agree with Gikkle that you shouldn't be forced to shoot a townread of yours.

Of course there will be (hopefully) a second option where you don't townread the individual and you could just shoot there.

Simple solution.

Okay I get shooting in the top wagons to narrow down and stop people from hero shooting.

But I agree with Gikkle that you shouldn't be forced to shoot a townread of yours.

Of course there will be (hopefully) a second option where you don't townread the individual and you could just shoot there.

Simple solution.

[QUOTE=Loldebite;956375]That the game is made a pain in the ass for you is irrelevant. Pointless AtE.[/QUOTE]

Multiple games though? It's fucking toxic at that point.

Originally Posted by Loldebite

That the game is made a pain in the ass for you is irrelevant. Pointless AtE.

Multiple games though? It's fucking toxic at that point.