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    In, but, ping me when its starting on discord plz
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    @FM-Chad Knight I've always been told if I'm in lylo- have you not been in a game with Lag or some game like this?

    Regardless- we might be in effective Lylo if wolves have kp
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    I've got no interest in not voting for Myopia. Thats always happening, and should have happened yesterday.

    That Myopia was healed and I couldn't buy antidote the other day makes me most worried about OhNo who looks like he claimed HE bought the antidote.

    Who else has OhNo poisoned?
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    FM-ohno why did you say wolves didn't buy antidote? I thought that was you saying you bought it not me
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Chad Knight View Post
    @FM-Father and Sun

    What have you worked out? I need all cards on the table right now. This is probably LYLO. We need to be pooling resources.
    I need people to tell me who they visited.

    I was visited twice- so someone I think tried to killl me or rb me and someone tried to save me.
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    -vote FM-Myopia
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    How many mafia we expect left?

    Feels like they're giving up
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    I've made up mine too.

    Of these two I think earless has been too independent

    If I'm duped oh well
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    -vote FM-Myopia
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Chad Knight View Post
    You can’t be fucking serious. You’re trolling. You have to be.
    Hammer him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Purple View Post
    Huh? Do you townread Artiste?
    I'm kinda leaning there based on today.

    They've got a really inno child approach that I like and seem completely lost.

    I thought they were mega wolfy for editing and withholding the death tailor but have come round to nai.

    They're in my poe but trending up
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Chad Knight View Post
    What? I’ve been very solvey today. Did you read?

    At least make that claim in reference to yesterday, when I actually didn’t give a shit.
    I meant game play today
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    -vote FM-Chad Knight


    Needs a full reread to be sure but this can be scum super easy

    Today they've not really given a shit about whats going on
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Purple View Post
    Since when confidence is alignment indicative, go away, let me work.
    Since a game is going terribly like this one
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    -vote FM-Purple


    I can't believe you can have this confidence still as a villager
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-ohno View Post
    scum does not have a antidote
    oh

    FM-Chad Knight
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    I really don't think that Earless is the kill here.

    I'd rather we hammer down on Myopia before they're healed, which is a lot more likely imo.

    Of the rest I go:
    FM-OhNo

    FM-Dark Unicorn






    FM-Earless Artiste (gets cleared with Myopia); FM Chad; FM Purple
    FM Leaf



    FM Myopia





    FM-CBI Agent, FM-Father and Sun, FM-Earless Artiste
    FM-CBI Agent (1 [L-4]):
    FM-ohno
    FM-Earless Artiste (4 [L-1]):
    FM-Purple, FM-Is that a leaf, FM-Myopia, FM-Dark Unicorn
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Earless Artiste View Post
    @FM-Father and Sun , between Denmark and the Netherlands, whichever one did nothing all the previous nights except last night is me. The other one is oh no
    I have no consecutive track on previous nights - the names change every night and I've imperfect information
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Purple View Post
    Lag create easier names next time!
    Great read
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Dark Unicorn View Post
    I doubt that it matters but I was the one selling that crab.

    I didn't actually want anyone to buy it. Just thought people would read it and get a laugh.
    I was joking too
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Dark Unicorn View Post
    We do not know that. We know someone bought it. There are many dead players.

    To that point I did not buy it. I would say the risk is higher if we see Myopia as likely team scum. Then we have to consider how likely it is for more team scum to exist.

    Cult potential (Tin foil paranoia)
    Mafia Multiball potential (Increased by flipped triad ability to check for mafia, WIFOM claims that we are not in one),
    Huge triad potential (maybe balance argument? Feels swingy given the game size and insanity of roles)
    Mass neutral with small triad (just speculation)

    A part of me wants to dig through Myopia for indicators but honestly.. Fuck that. With their post count and the fact they will resolve one way or the other I have better things to do with my time. Even if they happen to have the antidote I doubt there is any world where they survive tomorrow.
    I believe earless enough tbh though I'm partly skeptical

    OK who's next on your hit list
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Dark Unicorn View Post
    I feel like Myopia is the equivalent of a 'skip day' vote. They are poisoned and likely self resolving.

    The issue I see is that they are also the 'obvious easy lynch.' If I was team scum that is where I would push the lynch to avoid dealing with pressure elsewhere. Nobody town reads them but they also really feel like LHF. If we are going to hammer them through I would ask we keep hammer control to prevent ending the day early, and look at doing so if we just want to be 100% certain they die.

    We should sort though other players with the time we have and not just resign to 'Fuck it, lets kill the guy thats probably dead anyways.'
    Scum have antidote. Thats the problem
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Dark Unicorn View Post
    True. I will have to look through his role again.

    Although some host meta could be examined with the death flips saying 'A shot rang out' and the fact they happened mid day.
    Yh shot different to mine I actually buy that
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Dark Unicorn View Post
    No. His role card flatly said he has no hands and can not use items.

    Some living player preformed those two kills. I am relatively certain of it.
    Nah but he gets mines and can use them
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Dark Unicorn View Post
    I do not believe anyone else has said it but those 2 day shots are interesting. I see a few things there.

    The targets do not look to me like they would come from a town player (if the action was targeted)

    They were instant shots, This makes me wonder if those two shots were the robinhood bows we saw on the market earlier in the game. I actually tried to buy one to get it off the market but was too slow. Those would be high value items for non-town imo. The ability to flat out eliminate 2 players at the snap of your fingers is substantial.

    If so this would mean a player bought them who had substantial purchasing power. This could point to who would have taken those to shots assuming both 'it was the bows' and 'we have some way to sort who bought what'
    Couldda just been Forsaken Bones- I think he had the power to do it.

    The timing of Demonic's is interesting to- he just claimed that thing about there being no mafia faction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Dark Unicorn View Post
    It is also of note I was told people voting on me would invert investigative results. What is interesting with that is that Purple's check on Incognito was correct while his lie detector on Tess was not. Kinda makes me question if the feedback I received about having a parasite was not some weird feedback tailor. Either way.. Tess potentials as I see them:

    Death Tailor (Real potential given the length of time they were a scum lynch and someone flat claimed to give out a death tailor item earlier in the game)
    Semantics on phrasing
    Tess Miller attribute conflict
    Lie detector has insane modifier

    Anyways. Not sure why the focus is on purple through this point. Mechanical solves in a closed bastard game like this is kinda dumb when we see so many potentials. This makes me question if the people are making these pushes in good faith.

    The issue of why they shot off their red check is valid although explained by their role claim.
    Yh I kinda get it but they never should have lied about why they took the shot.

    I'm happiest going in to Myopia I think.

    I do think *everyone* should claim visits tbh
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Dark Unicorn View Post
    @FM-Father and Sun
    Sounds like you see that people visited but not who. This could be very helpful.

    Chad has claimed I visited them twice. I have never preformed an action this game. That is an issue maybe you can deductively sort.

    Also given Chad is a pincushion they should have more info on me for that 2nd claimed visit given their role. Either this visit has not happened (suggesting Chad is lying) or I am being manipulated in some way to visit.

    The only logic I could see for an outside force to manipulate me at them twice would be to cause day issues for me given Chad flatly claimed he saw me visit him the day prior and I flatly claimed I took no action. Doing it a second time raises the issue we are discussing now.
    Honestly its been a fucking nightmare. I've been trying to collect things, but, a mix of ppl lying, not being here, and refusing to say means its been hard to verify. The "titles" change each day (e.g. it was countries today, yesterday it was elements.)

    I"m starting to worry about Chad tbh
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    I'm p sure this is what happened:

    Quote Originally Posted by Lag View Post
    FM-Bizarro Pepsi has died!

    Their Flip
    Spoiler : Flip :
    Alignment: Town
    Role: Stealthbomber16

    Factional Abilities:
    Town is the uninformed majority and receives no factional abilities.

    Win Condition:
    Eliminate all anti-town factions.

    Rolecard:
    You have unleashed a telepathic brain maggot into the town's water supply and it has attached itself to another player.
    You don't know who they are, but you will know nearly everything they know.

    Information you will receive:
    - Their role
    - Their rolecard
    - The names of any private chats they are in
    - Any feedback they receive

    Information you will not receive:
    - Their name
    - Their alignment
    - The names of any factional chats they are in
    - Messages sent in private or factional chats
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    Myopia is lolcatting. I need someone to claim buying an antidote otherwise im 100% saying we kill Myopia today

    Risk of him being healed and us losing too high
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Earless Artiste View Post
    Oh no can be telling the truth. Myopia can be france
    In which case....Myopia likely visited two ppl.

    Does that align with Myopia's claims
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Earless Artiste View Post
    Oh no can be telling the truth. Myopia can be france
    You forgot I had terrible reading comprehension.

    Its so weird, its been so off this game wtf.
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    If blowdart doesn't count as a visit then my role is again pointless.

    Whats the point of a puzzle if its unclear what count as a visit
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    Screw it.

    This is what happened last night:

    Denmark -> France
    France -> Italy, Belgium
    Iceland -> Iceland, Turkey
    Italy -> Luxembourg
    Netherlands -> France
    Portugal -> Canada
    Turkey -> Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Greece, Iceland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Turkey, United Kingdom, United States
    Uninted Kingdom -> United Kingdom


    I am Turkey- I visit everyone.

    Earless & OhNo are both claiming visiting Myopia.

    If Earless is telling the truth they are Denmark, Italy, Netherlands, or Portugal.

    Therefore Earless and OhNo can't both be telling the truth (unless blowdart doesn't count as a visit.)

    1 person visited me- I don't know who
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    Someone visited me last night- they aren't claiming. Think might be FB because he claimed a green check

    Someone visited me the night before- they aren't claiming
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    No one is claiming buying the antidote.

    Ergo wolves bought the antidote.
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    So- I tried to buy some antidote.
    It didn't go through.

    No one has claimed buying antidote. I doubt Blue Beard bought it (he had some), Forsaken bones was the man behind the shop, so it basically is luck if the other person who died bought the antidote.

    I think its much more likely scum did, and are ok us NOT voting of Myopia.

    IMO they antidote Myopia and kill us off, hope we mislunch someone else and then win.

    So I'm voting Myopia and encourage you all to too.

    Currently I've got like all of you in my POE because I don't understand this game, don't think we really have any solid info, and definitely don't have any green checks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-CBI Agent View Post
    FM-Earless Artiste (3 [L-2]):
    FM-Chad Knight, FM-Is that a leaf, FM-Myopia
    FM-Myopia (2 [L-3]):
    FM-CBI Agent, FM-Earless Artiste
    FM-CBI Agent (1 [L-4]):
    FM-ohno

    Purple, Father and Sun, Dark Unicorn have all yet to vote
    I ain't hammering
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Chad Knight View Post
    Is there anyone else alive who has questions about why Artiste is scum?
    Look I agree with you on this.

    Artiste leaving things out claim is bad.

    But I've found your last two pages so scummy. Why are you tin foiling Tess wolf out the blue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-CBI Agent View Post
    Here it is.
    Bizzaro complained about being vanilla town, so did dark role block him or something?
    I think Bizzaro not having anything in his last will doesn't clear DU at all
    Yh agreed.

    Du looks bad

    They've not claimed anything right?

    They probably had a nerf all visitors power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Earless Artiste View Post
    Few reasons,
    1- obviously didn't notice that the role had been revealed by a flip
    2- it's unrelevant and anti town, therefore I didn't want it even a part of the discussion
    3- I never intend to use it (given it's anti town)
    4- I have not used it
    Hiding it is lying.

    Wolves lie.

    But I doubt your wolf pals would let you do that...unless they're all dead
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Purple View Post
    But scum may have an antidote

    -vote Myopia
    I think they do.

    I bought antidote, but, someone beat me to it....And no one is claiming it so I think its scum.

    -vote FM-Myopia
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Purple View Post
    HARD CLAIM

    Alignment: Town
    Role: The hero that the city deserves, not the one it needs!

    Factional Abilities:
    Town is the uninformed majority and receives no factional abilities.

    Win Condition:
    Eliminate all anti-town factions.

    Rolecard:

    Ultimate Bus Driver:

    Target 2 players, Swapping them for the night
    All actions targeting a player will instead hit the other player.

    Explained:

    Player A submits a track action on Player B
    Player C submits a vig shot action on Player D

    You swap Player B and Player D

    As a result:

    Player A tracks Player D
    Player C kills Player B

    If for any reason both targets target each other instead, their alignments are announced publicly in the thread.

    This action is multitaskable with other actions in this role and is the only one that is multitaskable.

    Lie To Me! I Dare you!:

    Also, you may twice per game, during the day quote a statement made by a player and send this to the game host to learn whether the statement is true or not.

    The statement must be 100% confirmable by the host, it cannot be ambiguous nor contain whole sentences with multiple truths and/or lies.

    This action will not render false results and cannot be used two days consecutively.

    Hero Shooter!

    Hero shooters get a bad reputation because they often screw shit over! But you are destined to get it right! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

    You are a 1-shot Night Vigilante with a few conditions:

    1) You can only shoot a player that has voted you two days in a row.
    2) You can only shoot if you didn't end voting that player the previous day.
    3) If the target is not town aligned, both you and your target die.
    4) If the target is town they die and you live.

    The World's Best Detective!

    Once per game during the night you may visit a player to find out their exact alignment.

    You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

    You may choose to sacrifice at least one other action to activate this one during the day. If you have no other actions available, you cannot activate this one.
    During the day, post one letter in:

    Size 7

    If you die that day by any means, every player whose user names start or end with that letter will blow the hell up and die as well.
    Thanks for this.

    I've digested and quite like it.

    Residual question on why you made up bullshit reasons as to why you didn't shoot purple and didn't just say there were restrictions
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    OK next question:

    Who wants to claim visiting me over the last 2 days?

    I know two of you have
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    I'm finding me and OhNo not seeing eye to eye on much today
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    I've re read CBI to check OhNo's claim they are ousted triad.

    I don't see it as much as you

    D1

    Votes inconspicuous man (triad), defends pain a lot (triad)

    Spoiler : D1 reads :
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-CBI Agent View Post
    I don't think Mr. Pain is a good lynch
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-CBI Agent View Post
    I'm thinking, it's hard with this many players to make judgements that I feel take in the whole picture, but I'll stand by thinking that Pain is a bad lynch, low hanging fruit.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-CBI Agent View Post
    -unvote

    I do hope you'll forgive me for not being very active, other obligations have been taking up mental facilities, been doing my best to keep up.
    Here's a small list of some notable slots to me.
    I don't like Mr. Pain's lynch, I think they're low hanging fruit.
    I think Chad is cool, should at least stick around for now.
    I don't like Mr. Bones, coasting with low substance, granted I can't harp on them that much over it because I have been doing much the same.
    I think Tesseract is a mystery, and I don't like mysteries.
    Inconspicuous Man showed up, made their ten posts and left.

    -vote FM-Inconspicuous Man



    D2:
    Says in only one post to kill Tesseract before Inconspicuous man.

    Spoiler : D2 reads :
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-CBI Agent View Post
    anyways I'm caught up


    Spoiler : wowie look at this it's a multiquote post put in spoilers tags i sure do hope other players notice this and realize it's a good way to "catch up" without cluttering the thread or making an unnecessarily long post that increases the size of a page by 30% :



    Okay.


    1. Don't like the chad knight train.
    2. I can't remember if your responding to something from day 1 or day 2.
    3. how is chad knight outed scum?



    We take 1 for 1 trades, I don't see a universe where losing comrade is the worst thing in the world. Hell, it was something I was contemplating near the end of day 1, based pretty much off of activity.
    Glad I'm not the only one who thought that tesseract was being anti-town.





    Oh boy can't wait to see how you defend yourself



    I didn't visit anyone last night.



    We need more content, more evidence of you doing something for town, even if we were to disregard the red check on you, you'd likely still be on the chopping block.



    Where does it say that scum can't be sheriffs?
    Either way I'm inclined to believe your town for now, and thus your check is likely valid.



    I'd wish you luck today although from what I read I'd say you don't need it, you seem to be doing quite well.



    I think that's fair although somewhat annoying considering there are other players (myself included) who feel obligated to read
    Every.
    Single.
    Post.



    See my last response for you.



    Jesus wept.
    You say "it is not an option for me to post a single sentence like that" is this the result of a role ability, posting restriction, are you blackmailed? You never did formally answer my question on day 1 about whether the quality of post or quantity of post affects you.



    It's very tempting.



    This is the way.




    No.



    I mean inco is a red check, logical.



    Then why didn't I die when I voted you day 1, hmm?




    Ah this must be the PQManuever, I think.




    In what world do we not lynch non-towns?



    So Comrade = non group scum, inco = scum? Sounds like a 1 to 1 trade here at worst and a 2 for 1 at best, makes the deal even sweeter.



    I was hoping that was going to be most substantial. Anyways I also did an ISO on tesseract and they're kind of consistent? I don't see an discernable pattern other than they are posting more than one sentence per post, and that they tend to be long sentences.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-CBI Agent View Post
    I'll be honest I've been lurking and sticking my head in the sand since I really didn't like how purple and tesseract were interacting.

    From a mechanical standpoint I think I like tesseract's lynch? inco has been on my shit list since day 1.
    Worst case scenarios for each:
    1.) We lynch Tesseract, we lose a townie, voting power, and a role blocker, who has an unverifiable alignment if their miller claim is to be believed.
    2.) We lynch inco, worse case scenario we lose two towns since comrade and inco are apparently lovers.
    3.) We lynch purple, worse case is that their claim is accurate, and we lose a powerful investigative role.

    Best case scenario for each:
    1.) We lynch tesseract, scum loses a role blocker with extra voting power.
    2.) We lynch inco, we get two scum for the price of one. (However I'd also bet that if they both were scum they wouldn't really be lovers) Likely we'd trade 1 for 1 scum.
    3.) We lynch purple, scum loses an investigative role.

    There isn't a world where we lynch purple first, so we can verify by lynching inco, the scummy player who is allegedly triad, and who is allegedly a lover with comrade, whom I have no strong read on at the moment.
    or we lynch tesseract, the powerwolf (lol) who has extra voting power, who claims to be able to roleblock, is a self proclaimed "important town member", and who purple claims lied about being town.

    Lynching inco is at worst 2 for 1, unless tesseract's ramblings are right about purple potentially being a disguiser or something awful, in which case we could lose TWO town members.
    I think we lynch tesseract here, the math seems better.
    -vote FM-Tesseract
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-CBI Agent View Post
    Spoiler : multiquotes in a spoiler, look it up :












    oh my god.

    So to recap we have what, four investigative claims?
    1.) Purple's lie detector/ alignment checker
    2.) Mr. Pain role cop'd something
    3.) Myopia's claim (I think it's alignment checker but I've been mostly skimming through their posts rather than actually reading them)
    4.) It's something has a risky alignment check stapled onto their gadget role.

    Killing tesseract and having them flip solves purple AND inconspicuous.
    Killing either It's something or Kitty Cat solves the other.

    If we are to take EVERYTHING that our investigatives claim at face value then we know there's a triad faction, mafia faction, and the malevolent A.I solo-faction. Oh boy mulitball sure is fun.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-CBI Agent View Post
    My reads list, color coordinated for your convenience.

    Town:
    FM-CBI Agent ooh wee look at me, i put myself at the top of the town list.
    FM-Purple Alignment cop with a good hit on triad inco, claimed lie detector role with a positive on tesseract.
    FM-Bizarro Pepsi Shot a triad in broad daylight
    FM-Its SOMETHING Outed their role and outed a triad
    FM-Blue Beard It's a rare breed of player that's willing to both sacrifice themselves and attempt to hold town hostage in order to shoot someone, whilst also claiming some form of tracker, you don't usually see this level of self sacrificing from scum.
    FM-Is that a leaf Got shot by four unclaimed shots, if that isn't scum trying to get rid of someone then I don't know what is.
    FM-Father and Sun Puzzle solver role that's generally been helpful
    FM-Chad Knight Investigative claim, feels good, mostly gut read.
    FM-Mr Pain This slot has done a little bit of independent analysis, seems honest and quick to post. Weakest solid town read.
    FM-Myopia This slot is probably town but I want them to die anyways.
    FM-Dark Unicorn Haven't decisively put this one in a box yet, but I'm leaning town on them.

    Null:
    FM-ohno soft claim vig, not sure what to think about this slot, an amount of independent analysis, but I can't really get a good read on them.
    FM-Forsaken Bones Kind of fence sitty? Not entirely sure what to think about this slot "whose ISO is unimpressive", want to see more from them.
    Scum:
    FM-Mafia Bro Claimed to shoot purple before they claimed invest, needs "laughs" for some reason, little independent analysis, inclined to scum lean them.
    FM-Demonic TP "the anti-town faction", not sure if it's TMI. Has a hard on for leaf, put kitty on their town list, put purple on their scum list. Inclined to scum lean
    FM-Earless Artiste Worlds biggest lurker, hasn't posted any reads, hasn't done any analysis, they're on the chopping block for today.
    FM-Mr Bones Is almost without a doubt the frog fractions role, and has not been interacting or doing any amount of scum hunting, is definitely a neutral or scum
    FM-Tesseract Confirmed alignment cop with a claimed positive on tesseract lying about the post "I am town", miller claim is probably unverifiable, I was never a fan of this slot. When do we not lynch here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-ohno View Post
    its not.

    think about it.
    I have.

    I think it makes them scum
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-ohno View Post
    i have said all im willing or able to say

    im going to repat: THE RED CHECK FAILED DUE TO TESS TECHNICALLYY LYING

    "Im town" is a lie.

    "im aligned with the town" is not

    But thats not my case.

    My case is how Purple said "I know something about Tess" then lie detectored them. Its suss af
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-ohno View Post
    at least thats how LD works where i come from. Otherwise its just a fancy cop check with nothign special
    Yh not where I come from.

    I think Purple should claim. I don't believe what they've been saying
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Father and Sun View Post
    My tier list

    Villager
    Father and Sun
    ohno

    Villagey
    Chad Knight

    POE
    Dark Unicorn
    Earless Artiste
    Is that a leaf
    Purple
    Myopia
    CBI Agent



    All my town reads are dying
    3 ISO's down:
    1) Purple very wolfy. But not triad.
    2) Earless Artiste has lied about their role- they have a death tailor which they kept off. They're claiming a scum check on myopia though.
    3) CBI Agent I find null to wolfy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-ohno View Post
    "Seems OP" is not a argument.

    purple town
    Why do you think he's town?

    Do you not think its weird he went from:
    - I know something bad about tess
    - tess I'm going to lie detector you, AND I get through miller's
    - tess is a liar so not town
    - I'm only voting red checks
    - I'm going to shoot someone who I've not outted a scum read on instead of my Scum check


    AND it so happens the person they lie detector just so happens to be the only miller.

    I guess.... purple- what was the info that you said you had on tess that kicked this all off?
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