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how was my night chat

how was my night chat

[QUOTE=MartinGG99;971188]a bit late for the day action deadline

if they were to submit now[/QUOTE]

ah

Originally Posted by MartinGG99

a bit late for the day action deadline

if they were to submit now

ah

[QUOTE=TheClowns;971185]Twice.[/QUOTE]

once more tonight, tell us who you will visit

Originally Posted by TheClowns

Twice.

once more tonight, tell us who you will visit

Target someone you're sus of tonight, and tell us who it is [MENTION=46280]TheClowns[/MENTION]

Target someone you're sus of tonight, and tell us who it is @TheClowns

[VOTE]Frinckles[/VOTE]

-vote Frinckles

[QUOTE=TheClowns;971170][url]https://www.mafiauniverse.com/wiki/Masonizer[/url][/QUOTE]

that's your role?

Originally Posted by TheClowns

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/wiki/Masonizer

that's your role?

[QUOTE=TheClowns;971165]Can’t copy paste my role. Tis against the rules[/QUOTE]

you can find the role bank list for each site and copy link to it

Originally Posted by TheClowns

Can’t copy paste my role. Tis against the rules

you can find the role bank list for each site and copy link to it

[QUOTE=Frinckles;971162]yes, very true. please join hands and vote MM with me ashoka. Also put me in a chat so I'm not bored at night[/QUOTE]

Martin/jmw/stealth chat tonight

Originally Posted by Frinckles

yes, very true. please join hands and vote MM with me ashoka. Also put me in a chat so I'm not bored at night

Martin/jmw/stealth chat tonight

penis

penis

[QUOTE=TheClowns;971153]Oh I’m sorry. I didn’t know you could read my role. Please, tell me what it is then[/QUOTE]

[url]https://www.mafiauniverse.com/wiki/Mason[/url]
find me the sc2/hypixel mason rolecard to see if it matches what you have

Originally Posted by TheClowns

Oh I’m sorry. I didn’t know you could read my role. Please, tell me what it is then

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/wiki/Mason
find me the sc2/hypixel mason rolecard to see if it matches what you have

[VOTE]TheClowns[/VOTE]

lol, Mason is when 2 people know one another roles, he doesn't even describe the role correctly. Furthermore if it stopped working that means there is "shots" where he can create it and when he cannot, no?
but I especially hate how he isn't pushing me

-vote TheClowns

lol, Mason is when 2 people know one another roles, he doesn't even describe the role correctly. Furthermore if it stopped working that means there is "shots" where he can create it and when he cannot, no?
but I especially hate how he isn't pushing me

Oliverz town lol

Oliverz town lol

jmw + stealth + a 3rd you two choose tonight?

jmw + stealth + a 3rd you two choose tonight?

I'm newish to forum, but not that new

I'm newish to forum, but not that new

if you could pick ur 2 friends tonight, who would they be jmw

if you could pick ur 2 friends tonight, who would they be jmw

[QUOTE=jmw;970907]Looking back at what Martin mentioned that SB signal boosted - this is indeed a contradiction from AT, is it not?



If we look at Eevee's rolecard in the flip, it says this:
Additionally, you have a unique place in the OOO. Your action will take place before kills, but the upgrade will not take effect until SoD. This means that even if you die, your upgrade will still go through, however, people who are upgraded do not get to use their upgraded ability the night you upgrade them.

Therefore, Eevee's action should have gone in and the upgrade should have happened at SoD, and AT would have needed to submit three names.

[MENTION=46282]Ashoka Tano[/MENTION] I have a theory as to why you said you submitted jmw and Martin, but can you explain why you didn't say anything about having three targets at that point?[/QUOTE]

I didn't log into the burner discord because I'm just dming the host on my main discord account, I only checked after they claimed

Originally Posted by jmw

Looking back at what Martin mentioned that SB signal boosted - this is indeed a contradiction from AT, is it not?



If we look at Eevee's rolecard in the flip, it says this:
Additionally, you have a unique place in the OOO. Your action will take place before kills, but the upgrade will not take effect until SoD. This means that even if you die, your upgrade will still go through, however, people who are upgraded do not get to use their upgraded ability the night you upgrade them.

Therefore, Eevee's action should have gone in and the upgrade should have happened at SoD, and AT would have needed to submit three names.

@Ashoka Tano I have a theory as to why you said you submitted jmw and Martin, but can you explain why you didn't say anything about having three targets at that point?

I didn't log into the burner discord because I'm just dming the host on my main discord account, I only checked after they claimed

[QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;970795]Ok, we are playing role madness. My role is very exotic. Scum architect is VERY much on the table. Martin caught a discrepancy in Ashoka's d2 play. Even disregarding that discrepancy, Ashoka's upgrade is completely independent of her potential alignment. The difference between town and scum architect is that scum architect would probably be able to read your chats. Putting two mechanically strong players into an architect chat together (Ashoka doesn't even know you but chose you to be with jmw???) to learn their reads and rolecards is extremely plausible. Eevee's death, to an extent, also reaffirms the potential of Ashoka being scum, since scum would mechanically know that the upgrader claim is real since they just got upgraded.

Ashoka has done basically nothing this game outside of putting you two in a chat together, and somehow everybody has given her a complete free pass up to this point. I know some of you are very strong players who should not be allowing this.


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[vote]TheClowns[/vote][/QUOTE]

the logic for why I put them together is literally being flipped LMAOOO

Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

Ok, we are playing role madness. My role is very exotic. Scum architect is VERY much on the table. Martin caught a discrepancy in Ashoka's d2 play. Even disregarding that discrepancy, Ashoka's upgrade is completely independent of her potential alignment. The difference between town and scum architect is that scum architect would probably be able to read your chats. Putting two mechanically strong players into an architect chat together (Ashoka doesn't even know you but chose you to be with jmw???) to learn their reads and rolecards is extremely plausible. Eevee's death, to an extent, also reaffirms the potential of Ashoka being scum, since scum would mechanically know that the upgrader claim is real since they just got upgraded.

Ashoka has done basically nothing this game outside of putting you two in a chat together, and somehow everybody has given her a complete free pass up to this point. I know some of you are very strong players who should not be allowing this.


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-vote TheClowns

the logic for why I put them together is literally being flipped LMAOOO

[QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;970795]Ok, we are playing role madness. My role is very exotic. Scum architect is VERY much on the table. Martin caught a discrepancy in Ashoka's d2 play. Even disregarding that discrepancy, Ashoka's upgrade is completely independent of her potential alignment. The difference between town and scum architect is that scum architect would probably be able to read your chats. Putting two mechanically strong players into an architect chat together (Ashoka doesn't even know you but chose you to be with jmw???) to learn their reads and rolecards is extremely plausible. Eevee's death, to an extent, also reaffirms the potential of Ashoka being scum, since scum would mechanically know that the upgrader claim is real since they just got upgraded.

Ashoka has done basically nothing this game outside of putting you two in a chat together, and somehow everybody has given her a complete free pass up to this point. I know some of you are very strong players who should not be allowing this.


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[vote]TheClowns[/vote][/QUOTE]

scum would mechanically know that upgrader is real because I confirmed that I was upgraded and scum knows I'm town???
your logic is opportunistic and pretty shit tbh
I do agree that I've been townread pretty easily, but I think the rest of your message is nonsense

Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

Ok, we are playing role madness. My role is very exotic. Scum architect is VERY much on the table. Martin caught a discrepancy in Ashoka's d2 play. Even disregarding that discrepancy, Ashoka's upgrade is completely independent of her potential alignment. The difference between town and scum architect is that scum architect would probably be able to read your chats. Putting two mechanically strong players into an architect chat together (Ashoka doesn't even know you but chose you to be with jmw???) to learn their reads and rolecards is extremely plausible. Eevee's death, to an extent, also reaffirms the potential of Ashoka being scum, since scum would mechanically know that the upgrader claim is real since they just got upgraded.

Ashoka has done basically nothing this game outside of putting you two in a chat together, and somehow everybody has given her a complete free pass up to this point. I know some of you are very strong players who should not be allowing this.


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-vote TheClowns

scum would mechanically know that upgrader is real because I confirmed that I was upgraded and scum knows I'm town???
your logic is opportunistic and pretty shit tbh
I do agree that I've been townread pretty easily, but I think the rest of your message is nonsense

[VOTE]1000JellyDoughnuts[/VOTE]

-vote 1000JellyDoughnuts

assuming I don't die today, do you want to be in the 3 man chat I create tonight? @Stealth

assuming I don't die today, do you want to be in the 3 man chat I create tonight? @Stealth

I chose those two because jmw was in champs, and he townread MM, you're saying that I'm scum architect which has merit tbh (because there were 3 chats created in the night), but you consider me to be the scum

I chose those two because jmw was in champs, and he townread MM, you're saying that I'm scum architect which has merit tbh (because there were 3 chats created in the night), but you consider me to be the scum

[QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;970795]Ok, we are playing role madness. My role is very exotic. Scum architect is VERY much on the table. Martin caught a discrepancy in Ashoka's d2 play. Even disregarding that discrepancy, Ashoka's upgrade is completely independent of her potential alignment. The difference between town and scum architect is that scum architect would probably be able to read your chats. Putting two mechanically strong players into an architect chat together (Ashoka doesn't even know you but chose you to be with jmw???) to learn their reads and rolecards is extremely plausible. Eevee's death, to an extent, also reaffirms the potential of Ashoka being scum, since scum would mechanically know that the upgrader claim is real since they just got upgraded.

Ashoka has done basically nothing this game outside of putting you two in a chat together, and somehow everybody has given her a complete free pass up to this point. I know some of you are very strong players who should not be allowing this.


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[vote]TheClowns[/vote][/QUOTE]

I cannot see into the chat, my role says that I cannot be apart of the chat that I create

Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

Ok, we are playing role madness. My role is very exotic. Scum architect is VERY much on the table. Martin caught a discrepancy in Ashoka's d2 play. Even disregarding that discrepancy, Ashoka's upgrade is completely independent of her potential alignment. The difference between town and scum architect is that scum architect would probably be able to read your chats. Putting two mechanically strong players into an architect chat together (Ashoka doesn't even know you but chose you to be with jmw???) to learn their reads and rolecards is extremely plausible. Eevee's death, to an extent, also reaffirms the potential of Ashoka being scum, since scum would mechanically know that the upgrader claim is real since they just got upgraded.

Ashoka has done basically nothing this game outside of putting you two in a chat together, and somehow everybody has given her a complete free pass up to this point. I know some of you are very strong players who should not be allowing this.


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-vote TheClowns

I cannot see into the chat, my role says that I cannot be apart of the chat that I create

[QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;970796]I will explicitly state that I believe Ashoka and Clowns are in a scum team and that I have my eye on a third person that I believe ties them together. I want some more arrivals today before I share the rest of my thoughts.[/QUOTE]

hitting the ground with lot's of WIM, but nonetheless incorrect

Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

I will explicitly state that I believe Ashoka and Clowns are in a scum team and that I have my eye on a third person that I believe ties them together. I want some more arrivals today before I share the rest of my thoughts.

hitting the ground with lot's of WIM, but nonetheless incorrect

[QUOTE=Stealthbomber16;970798]Wait, did you pick Martin specifically because he called you out on activity angleshooting????

Holy fuck oliver lock town i cant believe it took 3 days for you to spew yourself[/QUOTE]

you're late to this read

Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16

Wait, did you pick Martin specifically because he called you out on activity angleshooting????

Holy fuck oliver lock town i cant believe it took 3 days for you to spew yourself

you're late to this read

[QUOTE=Frinckles;970723]huh?[/QUOTE]

can’t move 6 votes on anyone fast enough, or is it plurality

Originally Posted by Frinckles

huh?

can’t move 6 votes on anyone fast enough, or is it plurality

[QUOTE=Frinckles;970720]I'm down for MM or Ewianking.[/QUOTE]

problem with that is a no lunch possibility, can’t move votes fast enough?

Originally Posted by Frinckles

I'm down for MM or Ewianking.

problem with that is a no lunch possibility, can’t move votes fast enough?

[VOTE] 10000JellyDoughnuts [/VOTE]

-vote 10000JellyDoughnuts

fuck

fuck

[VOTE]1000Jelly Donuts[/VOTE]

-vote 1000Jelly Donuts

confirming their role, I target 3 ppl

confirming their role, I target 3 ppl

[QUOTE=Mreevee;970467]Bruh wtf lmao
Providing / asking for clarification = scum? Are you serious?[/QUOTE]

that's all you've been doing, and you've been protecting the people in jmw POE and sussing the others

Originally Posted by Mreevee

Bruh wtf lmao
Providing / asking for clarification = scum? Are you serious?

that's all you've been doing, and you've been protecting the people in jmw POE and sussing the others

[QUOTE=Mreevee;970468]Also that 3rd one is a criticism of someones actions? Not what you claimed at all.[/QUOTE]

third quote was the most atrocious message for me imo

Originally Posted by Mreevee

Also that 3rd one is a criticism of someones actions? Not what you claimed at all.

third quote was the most atrocious message for me imo

[QUOTE=Mreevee;970369]Pretty sure that was talking about the other 2 chats but i didnt translate it so i could be wrong[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mreevee;970403]Why?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mreevee;970412]Info lynch on d2 is dumb
Just lynch scummy people[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mreevee;970413]Yes we talk about lurking[/QUOTE]

all of these messages feel completely unnecessary and trying to help out, while providing nothing, and I think they only come from the mindset of scum who wants to be TR

Originally Posted by Mreevee

Pretty sure that was talking about the other 2 chats but i didnt translate it so i could be wrong

Originally Posted by Mreevee

Why?

Originally Posted by Mreevee

Info lynch on d2 is dumb
Just lynch scummy people

Originally Posted by Mreevee

Yes we talk about lurking

all of these messages feel completely unnecessary and trying to help out, while providing nothing, and I think they only come from the mindset of scum who wants to be TR

[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;970460]Why would you want to lynch Eevee? I agree with you, but all you've said on the matter was this: [I]I've scumread them, I don't see some of their messages coming from town, more like a mafia trying to appear involved[/I]

Which, like... doesn't cut it?


Also, I didn't want to make this day entirely about Oliver because I wanted Frinckles to be pressured, but now it looks like everyone's just letting Frinckles get away with murder (literally), and Oliver is acting so strangely that it's only natural he is the one focus here...[/QUOTE]

their messages don't look authentic, like a mafia trying to appear towny, I'll send some quotes and explain more once I figure out how to multi quote

Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Why would you want to lynch Eevee? I agree with you, but all you've said on the matter was this: I've scumread them, I don't see some of their messages coming from town, more like a mafia trying to appear involved

Which, like... doesn't cut it?


Also, I didn't want to make this day entirely about Oliver because I wanted Frinckles to be pressured, but now it looks like everyone's just letting Frinckles get away with murder (literally), and Oliver is acting so strangely that it's only natural he is the one focus here...

their messages don't look authentic, like a mafia trying to appear towny, I'll send some quotes and explain more once I figure out how to multi quote

but yeah, whoever had the ability to force an early Lynch and if that didn't happen made it so no NA's could happen is an obviously anti town ability

but yeah, whoever had the ability to force an early Lynch and if that didn't happen made it so no NA's could happen is an obviously anti town ability

[QUOTE=Frinckles;970451][MENTION=46282]Ashoka Tano[/MENTION] if your action needs to be submitted before the day ends I would do it incase we hammer someone. if not just change it later[/QUOTE]

I've already submitted, jmw and Martin

Originally Posted by Frinckles

@Ashoka Tano if your action needs to be submitted before the day ends I would do it incase we hammer someone. if not just change it later

I've already submitted, jmw and Martin

I didn't read anything Frinckles said about them, completely independent read, so Frinckles gets towny points for it

I didn't read anything Frinckles said about them, completely independent read, so Frinckles gets towny points for it

[QUOTE=jmw;970447]I'm a bit apprehensive about hammering Aporia before they even get a chance to speak so as long as we can guarantee a hammer before 9:00 we do still have an hour or two we can give him
[MENTION=21928]MartinGG99[/MENTION] @Marshmallow Marshal [MENTION=46282]Ashoka Tano[/MENTION] if you had a pool of "I want the hammer today to be in this pool of players if we can get it" what would that be?

I'm gonna copy my old format since I think it works well for conveying thoughts:

no:
jmw
MM
Martin
Ashoka
Bakura

If I had to:
Ewian
Drizzt

POE:
eevee
aporia
oliverz
jelly
frinckles
clowns

if possible I would like to consolidate the town here and I think being a bit more flexible is required if we want a hammer on a good target, assuming we can get one.[/QUOTE]

I'm fairly confident on Eevee

Originally Posted by jmw

I'm a bit apprehensive about hammering Aporia before they even get a chance to speak so as long as we can guarantee a hammer before 9:00 we do still have an hour or two we can give him
@MartinGG99 @Marshmallow Marshal @Ashoka Tano if you had a pool of "I want the hammer today to be in this pool of players if we can get it" what would that be?

I'm gonna copy my old format since I think it works well for conveying thoughts:

no:
jmw
MM
Martin
Ashoka
Bakura

If I had to:
Ewian
Drizzt

POE:
eevee
aporia
oliverz
jelly
frinckles
clowns

if possible I would like to consolidate the town here and I think being a bit more flexible is required if we want a hammer on a good target, assuming we can get one.

I'm fairly confident on Eevee

[VOTE]Mreevee[/VOTE]

I'll leave this here

-vote Mreevee

I'll leave this here

[VOTE]Aporia[/VOTE]

-vote Aporia

[QUOTE=jmw;970437]Why do you think Eevee is the optimal lynch?[/QUOTE]

I've scumread them, I don't see some of their messages coming from town, more like a mafia trying to appear involved

Originally Posted by jmw

Why do you think Eevee is the optimal lynch?

I've scumread them, I don't see some of their messages coming from town, more like a mafia trying to appear involved

I'll vote with jmw for now since we need viable options, and I TR Oliver and MM

I'll vote with jmw for now since we need viable options, and I TR Oliver and MM

[QUOTE=Ashoka Tano;970432]Frinckles and Eevee are optimal lynches, especially the former[/QUOTE]

latter****

Originally Posted by Ashoka Tano

Frinckles and Eevee are optimal lynches, especially the former

latter****

Frinckles and Eevee are optimal lynches, especially the former

Frinckles and Eevee are optimal lynches, especially the former

Interesting NK, 3 chats too, investigation result on MM and he was voted after that lol

Interesting NK, 3 chats too, investigation result on MM and he was voted after that lol

something came up, can't be on for eod, all apologies

something came up, can't be on for eod, all apologies

[QUOTE=jmw;970102]wait actually

yooo let's go[/QUOTE]

yes, I claim town architect
gtg for food though, will be back in an hour

Originally Posted by jmw

wait actually

yooo let's go

yes, I claim town architect
gtg for food though, will be back in an hour

[QUOTE=Bakura1;970095]Imo a Marhmallow lynch is perfectly safe here

and I realize that I am completely out of my element for saying so[/QUOTE]

can you not, I just gave marshmellow and jmw a private night chat

Originally Posted by Bakura1

Imo a Marhmallow lynch is perfectly safe here

and I realize that I am completely out of my element for saying so

can you not, I just gave marshmellow and jmw a private night chat

okay time for food, how long have you been playing mafia for, bakura?

okay time for food, how long have you been playing mafia for, bakura?

[QUOTE=MartinGG99;970087]That's the problem with high-posters. If you have one that is scum, then that's generally bad news, but if you got no high-posters at all then what are town's chances of catching the scum? They'll have very little to work off of.

I tend to prefer games with higher levels of posting over ones with lower levels of posting, and occasionally that means I will make the evaluation that it is easier to solve "Slot A" over "Slot B" if given time, and so in theory that means it is more optimal to chop "Slot B" first if you're suspicious of both of them.[/QUOTE]

what do you think about jmw

Originally Posted by MartinGG99

That's the problem with high-posters. If you have one that is scum, then that's generally bad news, but if you got no high-posters at all then what are town's chances of catching the scum? They'll have very little to work off of.

I tend to prefer games with higher levels of posting over ones with lower levels of posting, and occasionally that means I will make the evaluation that it is easier to solve "Slot A" over "Slot B" if given time, and so in theory that means it is more optimal to chop "Slot B" first if you're suspicious of both of them.

what do you think about jmw