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    Sorry we’re late, don’t know what’s going on so if you’re voting us chill for a second so we can catch up.

    ~Italiano
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    ►►Re: S-FM 353: Death Nominations◄◄

    Tentative /in. I can switch to my ND account but might be away wo internet access for a week, depending on when this starts.

    But if Italiano agrees and hydras are allowed, that would be preferable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikarusdk View Post
    wrong name.
    -vote Marshmallow Marshall



    Italiano thinks he sounds like Frinckles from last game.

    I can switch back to PoD to save Ikarus but rn, we’re both more confident on MM.

    ~N
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumbot5679 View Post
    it's gut but I like POD. Rather vote out Flea or Scarlet.
    You’re wrong on us Nero.

    -vote Marshmello Marshall


    ~N
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    In case we die, we both tr Scumbot, Innovation and Ikarus.

    We both sr MM.

    I scumlean PoD and Italiano, Gikkle.

    We think MM’s vote on us is scummy.

    I obviously am disagreeing with Italiano on Gikkle.

    ~N
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gikkle View Post
    What an icky vote lol

    I could switch to them. I think them pushing us for my correcting them on Icarus is weird.

    ~N
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    For anyone thinking we’re scum here, please ISO both Italiano and myself in Chaotic Executioner. We are both playing the same here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumbot5679 View Post
    Ima be honest here, I just don't feel like going back and quoting but she insists several times that my early reads are bad and that my accuracy in reading her isn't that great. So ISO her. I just don't feel like thats a very towny reaction.
    Listen I’m not trying to talk you out of being suspicious of us, you do you, but do you think you and Nancy are perhaps clashing personality-wise? Because the way I’m seeing it is Nancy townreads you because you scumread her wrong, but you took offense to that thinking she was calling “all” of your reads trash. Personally I know that your scumreads on me are usually wrong but your townreads are pretty much always spot on. I can understand that being offensive, but I really think it is more of personality/ego clash than an alignment one here.

    ~I
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gikkle View Post
    I don't appreciate that scumbot waited until we had like no time to discuss to actually make constructive posts and throw their weight around. Would have liked to have at least 4 hours to prod their brain since they seem more thoughtful than Scarlet gave them credit for.

    I'm not against killing PoD but it's almost as baseless as voting flea so I'm not really sure why Scarlet finds it more appealing.
    I’m not opposed to Flea.

    All I’m saying is it’s totally nia for faer.

    ~N
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumbot5679 View Post
    how do i ISO people?
    ISO list. at the top of the page, left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Scarlet Letters View Post
    Lol. Already there Nance.

    It didn’t show up before though. You need to check the VC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumbot5679 View Post
    I wouldn't cry if we just voted out Flea. Throws down an OMGUS vote on the person voting them and gets vetes.
    Problem is fae pretty much did nothing in the last game I played with them and fae flipped town. But don’t you think they might try harder if fae’s triad?

    ~N
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    Lol. Already there Nance.
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    As I said I’ll deal with MM later. Terrible vote.

    I’ll place this down for now. If Nancy wants to change it she can. I probably won’t be around for deadline.

    -vote powerofdeath


    ~I
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumbot5679 View Post
    Ima be honest here, I just don't feel like going back and quoting but she insists several times that my early reads are bad and that my accuracy in reading her isn't that great. So ISO her. I just don't feel like thats a very towny reaction.
    If you researched my meta, I think you’d find that that actually is town indicative for me.

    Anyway

    -vote PowerofDeath


    Not at all confident on this but they’re not really doing anything particularly town indicative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumbot5679 View Post
    Are you voting POD?
    I’m trying to decide between PoD and MM. I wish the non or low posters would do more.

    ~N
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    Quote Originally Posted by Innovation View Post
    Maybe im overanalyzing it, but can't that also mean that because of the reasons you mentioned, its even easier to leave such crumbs because its such a terrible play and most people won't think anything of it or look over it
    I agree with this. Town in general aren’t looking for crumbs and such, scum are and do.

    ~I
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikarusdk View Post
    haha not really we don't sound different at all. You are right there.

    I'm just being honest that your posts dont' really scream anything AI to me. Maybe that's what you wanted to achieve.
    I’m just trying to figure out who the best vote is despite not being remotely confident.

    ~N
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumbot5679 View Post
    maybe sometimes sure but I often have good reads. I still think you're just scum that's trying to downplay my accuracy in the hopes that others will be like "yeah, scumbots reads are bad, lets not listen to him! Also you aren't pushing anyone as scum.
    Because I have no idea who is but I have suspicions. I don’t think it’s you, Innovation or Gikkle. What do you think about Power of Death’s posting?

    They’re a complete null for me but their posts look like IIoA so far.

    ~N
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikarusdk View Post
    If generating content is pro-town, yet NAI, am i still in your top scumlist? Maybe you don't see my posts as meaningful information (((

    I agree with SL's empty posting, hence despite the activity level, I have not considered her outside null atm.
    How do we sound any differently here from CE?

    ~N
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    While I wouldn't give townpoints to Gikkle for the "free townpoints for anyone who gives 2 insightful reads" post, I definetly wouldn't give him scumpoints for it, especially considering how little people have posted this game: this is a VERY inactive game per our site's standards, so trying to generate meaningful information is pro-town. It's also easy enough, so it's NAI, but certainly not scummy.

    I very much agree about SL's empty posting, though. The last post of theirs about confirming Ikarus did play scum in the last game is a good example of this.
    Why is it “empty” to correct someone who says something inaccurate?

    ~N
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikarusdk View Post
    i won't get into the detail but i have my reasons to believe so.
    I didn’t like the “I think your instincts are pretty sharp” bit. Sounds like scum trying to butter up town to get them in their pocket.

    ~I
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikarusdk View Post
    i mean you did call him bad or at least implied it in few occasions. Noone likes to hear that.
    Scumbot has a history of pushing bad reads especially early on but he’s not tunneling so will give him props for that.


    But no offense intended, @scumbot5679 .

    ~N
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikarusdk View Post
    eh, i think this is a fair enough response to aggression and bit towny.

    I also think this is also consistent with scumbot's willingness to vote outside SL or Gikkle and vote with town as he knows sticking with votes out reactionary emotion is inherently bad for the rest of towns.

    I'm willing to consider scumbot more towny from this post alone.
    Probably because scum!Scumbot would probably be far more likely to try to pocket me. So I still feel pretty good with that read.

    ~N
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumbot5679 View Post
    I will, at some point, go into further detail but the short version is that there was alot of empty posting from both heads of SL and Gikkle's whole "town points to anyone that gives reads" feels like scum looking for someone else to do his dirty work. I also loathe both of their reactions. Nancy's was to try and claim that b/c I have beem wrong on her before that I can't possibly be right and Gikkle's was to no sell it and then try to laugh it off and claim that he thought it was a joke.
    What reactions do you loathe? And yes if you’re town here. you are 100% wrong on us.

    ~N
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    I mean, there's zero reason to lie about this, especially as it's terribly easy to prove lol. I'm not even sure why you'd bring up the potential of a doubt on this topic.

    Also, I might not stick around until EOD, but I'll try to be here as much as life allows
    Why wouldn’t I correct something I know to be incorrect?

    ~N
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikarusdk View Post
    Could you elaborate? I think your instincts are pretty sharp from what i can see.
    Eww.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumbot5679 View Post
    just got home, how much time is left?

    Flea is a pretty good vote if we aren't going to kill scarlett letters or Gikkle.
    How are your reads this bad? We’re town and Gikkle seems pretty townie, Flea is totally nia. *smdh*

    ~N
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    Just to clarify, I’ve changed my mind on what I initially thought about ikarus. After seeing the responses by ikarus and also just thinking it over more I will at least say I don’t see it as scummy. The combination of the other posts, I wouldn’t want to vote ikarus today.

    I also wouldn’t want to vote Gikkle, scumbot, Inno, Furtive, or Flea

    I kinda feel the opposite about MM than do others, but I guess we won’t get into that today.

    I’d be down for PoD or Banana today. Pretty much anyone not in the list of no voting. ;)

    ~I
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    Quote Originally Posted by furtiveglance View Post
    Hey everyone, sorry I missed the start of this. Looking forward to playing with everyone!

    Any questions for me?
    Any reads yet? We have less than 2 hours and skip isn’t an option.

    ~N
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    My and scumbot’s history is a little shaky lol. We both read each other terribly wrong when it comes to scumhunting. I’ve tunneled on him before and have been terribly wrong and he I. On the flip side we have correctly townread each other on different occasions, so I think we’ll be able to at least correctly townread each other this game.

    ~I
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gikkle View Post
    Ideally, me, you, scarlet, and one other person (maybe @Innovation ) all consolidate on someone. If all goes to plan you're not going to be dying today.

    So who are you thinking? What do you think about PoD, Marshall?

    ~N
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikarusdk View Post
    There is Nancy
    ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gikkle View Post
    MM's vote I don't find unreasonable though so I can't really say
    Innovation's vote could be interesting but they unvoted when they didn't need to so it's probably fine
    scumbot's vote is maybe interesting. Considering the two people scumbot accused are me and scarlet, and I know I probably am the most findable townie rn, I'm wondering if scarlet is ALSO playing in a way scumbot would easily recognize is townie. If scarlet is, it's possible scumbot is just doing a very simple "vote obvious town" strategy to avoid voting their team mates.
    My take is that Scumbot if town, actually does or did suspect us and Gikkle. This is pretty typical for him to do this sort of thing.

    I don’t think he plays 3D chess like that.

    ~N
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gikkle View Post
    Hmm
    Scarlet do you think scumbot would have legitimate reason to suspect you? Like do you think you're playing in a way (meta wise) that scumbot could reasonably come to the conclusion you might be in your scum meta?

    Better phrasing, do you think you're obvious town right now to somehow who has knowledge of your meta?
    I don’t know his history with Italiano. I didn’t post yesterday. Scumbot should probably see I’m town but he hasn’t been back online since I actually started getting back into the game.

    ~N
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikarusdk View Post
    I know it is NAI but I'm forced to choose someone else.

    Would you rather have banana or furg gone instead? They both said nothing so far.

    My first reaction to this was

    Deeeeeeeeep sigh. So flea is either a mislynch or just a placeholder
    I wouldn’t vote furtive because if he’s town, he’s pretty decent at scumhunting and if he’s scum, decent chance I will catch him. I have no clue who BB is.

    Do you now like pod?

    I wouldn’t vote Flea based off inactivity.

    ~N
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    Quote Originally Posted by Innovation View Post
    No @Renegade is just my mentor

    does he type in a similar manner to this?
    Oh I thought you guys were a hydra, so I guess me and Italiano are the only hydra then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikarusdk View Post
    I want to vote flea since their only post so far voted me, but I feel it was a rvs vote in response to my rvs vote on flea.

    Just ISOd scumbot, and I feel scumbot has more to contribute to this game than flea.

    So I don't know
    It’s nia for Flea. In the last game I played with faer, they got mislimmed on d1 for pretty much doing nothing.

    ~N
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gikkle View Post
    Again, skip vote isn't allowed according to the game mechanics.

    Well that sucks then.

    -unvote


    I’m leaning pod but it’s extremely weak if I have to vote someone.

    ~N
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    @powerofdeath , any reads?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gikkle View Post
    Hmm.
    yeah I'd prefer ikarus didn't die here
    I’d prefer skip or someone who hasn’t been as active but that’s not telling us much.

    I wasn’t thrilled with PoD’s posts but it could very well be nia.

    It’s really frustrating with so many people not really doing much.

    -vote skip


    If anyone has some strong reasons to suspect someone that they want to explain, I will switch but unlike a traditional game, if Ikarus is a mislim, it tells us nothing.

    ~N
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinGG99 View Post
    6 votes to hammer.


    My apologies for being late. My alarm was off by a day, and it didn't help that I was distracted playing FM in another community. My bad, and if there's ever any remotely suspected issue feel free to DM me.

    EoD will be 1 hour later as a result of this delay by me, but all future EoDs will be at the originally intended 8 pm EST.


    @The Scarlet Letters
    @powerofdeath
    @Marshmallow Marshall
    @furtiveglance
    @ikarusdk
    @scumbot5679
    @Innovation
    @TheBananaBaroness
    @Gikkle
    @Flea the Magician

    We have less than 3 hours and @TheBananaBaroness and @furtiveglance haven’t even posted yet.

    And others have barely posted anything. C’mon people!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Uhm... no, it isn't? He's literally saying we should lynch the triad, which is not exactly revolutionary xD. It certainly isn't a good tip indicating any direction whatsoever. Plus, you're saying more or less this in point #1 (no new info), which contradicts the "on the surface" part. So... while I am looking at POD sideways with evil eyes , I feel like the "on the surface" sentence is only there to act as some kind of coating to your point, a coating that indicates you are insecure - perhaps because this is your first scum game (correct me if I'm wrong, my FM memory is horrible, but I think you've never been scum before).

    -vote ikarusdk


    sorry banana, duty calls me, i cannot vote you just yet
    I can confirm Ikarus was scum in Chaotic Executioner. I don’t know about the other game but why would someone lie about something like that anyway? People can check.

    ~N
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    @Renegade
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    Quote Originally Posted by Innovation View Post
    Overtly defensive, and trying to dictate the game from the start masking as a town power is all I get from this. (but i know you guys have played with each other quite a lot so i may be jsut wrong here) but thats just my take

    -vote Ikarusdk
    Is this Renegade?

    Do you think Ikarus’ posting is similar to CE game?

    ~N
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gikkle View Post
    Would this meta be influenced by the fact that Triads don't know their buddies?
    No idea. I’ve never played this kind of setup before.

    ~N
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gikkle View Post
    I thought it was a joke though?

    No, that’s pretty typical for him and he’s probably not joking. He’s also very active which is also usually a town indicative for him. I hydra’d with him as scum once and he pretty much lurked it out.

    ~N
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gikkle View Post
    hmmmm
    I did have one post I found questionable though, but it may be a matter of interpretation



    This post - @scumbot5679 , if you show up before EoD, could you tell me exactly what you meant by this? Might seem like a stupid question (like the one I asked ikarus), but there is a reason for it.
    I was referring to Scumbot confidentially calling people scum. It’s possible he’s scum doing that of course but that’s pretty typical for him as town.
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    What do people think of skipping the vote today? We have approximately 4 hrs and I have no clue who to vote for.

    ~N
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gikkle View Post
    don't wanna vote rn
    Marshmallow Marshall - I've liked his thoughts so far. Obviously with what I said earlier about Triad TMI this doesn't mean much, but if I'm gonna vote someone who is actually being constructive, it's gonna be because they are being wolfy. Don't get the impression MM is coming from an agenda driven place with his content yet (ikarus push was reasonable so can't say that's bad) so have no reason to think that. So not interested in voting him.

    would rather not vote
    powerofdeath - Can't say I have good reason to think this is evil. If anything, referring to ikarus as "mafia" is maybe ever so slightly in PoD's favor since Triad are more likely to be aware that they are called Triad? Possibly intentionally, and wolves could even make that post unintentionally, but we don't have much to work with so w/e
    The Scarlet Letters - sort of liked the tone of their posts when talking about the Triad. Felt like they were talking about something they weren't. Not much to go off of, but I don't think they're a good vote.

    basically rand
    Flea the Magician - Made one weird post and never came back.
    Innovation - New, so not really interested in voting them. Possibly opportunistic vote? idk
    furtiveglance - Don't think they've posted?
    TheBananaBaroness - also don't think they've posted


    I'm okay with voting these I guess
    ikarusdk - Explanation for his post was fine imo and tbh I'd rather not punish people for trying to start discussion, so I'd prefer not to vote him entirely because of that first post. Now, his other posts aren't exactly constructive, which is weird coming from someone who criticized someone for "no new info", and is apparently trying to "generate content" and "gauge reactions" (I'm interested what sort of conclusions @ikarusdk got from the reactions)
    scumbot5679 - This wouldn't be a terrible vote. Don't particularly like their posts.
    I have meta on a few posters, this is pretty typical for Scumbot.

    ~N
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