October 22nd, 2017, 11:43 PM
[QUOTE=PIayer;699677]Haha sorry, proposed Fatalis/SB to Gyr as saw these 2 as most threatening players ^^'
Maybe you could post night chat SJ if that interest anyone[/QUOTE]
I was surprised since I didn't contribute much D1... it was actually a lucky kill since I won the sheriff ticket.
Had unknown/player/MM D1 so 1/3 I guess.
Originally Posted by
PIayer
Haha sorry, proposed Fatalis/SB to Gyr as saw these 2 as most threatening players ^^'
Maybe you could post night chat SJ if that interest anyone
I was surprised since I didn't contribute much D1... it was actually a lucky kill since I won the sheriff ticket.
Had unknown/player/MM D1 so 1/3 I guess.
October 22nd, 2017, 02:55 PM
DansGame night1 kill
night1 kill
October 15th, 2017, 02:20 AM
October 11th, 2017, 02:20 AM
October 7th, 2017, 04:46 AM
Since Dr Unknown lurked for a while before disappearing I would leave my vote at [vote]Dr Unknown[/vote] for the night.
Since Dr Unknown lurked for a while before disappearing I would leave my vote at -vote Dr Unknown
for the night.
October 7th, 2017, 04:19 AM
[QUOTE=Scvmurderer;697997]Well then. I am going to sleep. Unfortunately my appearance tomorrow may be zero to the odd pop in. I am going to an amusement park tomorrow(Canada's Wonderland) with friends and dinner after so my appearance tomorrow is unknown. I still believe SD16 is scum and I wholeheartedly put my vote on him. I will probably not change my vote or even appear before day ends tomorrow, maybe pop in for a random one liner if i go to piss or something. I hope you all take SD16's tantrum and incredible defensiveness as evidence as his scumminess and I hope I come back at end of day to SD16 being lynched. Player I stayed up as long as i can to see your wall of text but unfortunately i did not get to see it. Gl every1.[/QUOTE]
Hard to keep up with the case about you against SB due to the language styles from both of you. Could you re-elaborate whether you still think SB is scum along with Nawa?
Originally Posted by
Scvmurderer
Well then. I am going to sleep. Unfortunately my appearance tomorrow may be zero to the odd pop in. I am going to an amusement park tomorrow(Canada's Wonderland) with friends and dinner after so my appearance tomorrow is unknown. I still believe SD16 is scum and I wholeheartedly put my vote on him. I will probably not change my vote or even appear before day ends tomorrow, maybe pop in for a random one liner if i go to piss or something. I hope you all take SD16's tantrum and incredible defensiveness as evidence as his scumminess and I hope I come back at end of day to SD16 being lynched. Player I stayed up as long as i can to see your wall of text but unfortunately i did not get to see it. Gl every1.
Hard to keep up with the case about you against SB due to the language styles from both of you. Could you re-elaborate whether you still think SB is scum along with Nawa?
October 7th, 2017, 04:16 AM
[QUOTE=Dr Unknown;698000]On D1 lynch, I am against random lynching. Unless we have a solid lynch, the probability of mislynch is too great (8/11 or 8:3 if you.like odds)[/QUOTE]
I'm here for you to talk with. Nobody suggested random lynching as far as I know, so you seem to be dissuading a lynch purely on odds.
Originally Posted by
Dr Unknown
On D1 lynch, I am against random lynching. Unless we have a solid lynch, the probability of mislynch is too great (8/11 or 8:3 if you.like odds)
I'm here for you to talk with. Nobody suggested random lynching as far as I know, so you seem to be dissuading a lynch purely on odds.
October 7th, 2017, 04:12 AM
[QUOTE=PIayer;697963]SCV I just don't like being indifferent to lynch. Lynch is catharsis.
Speaking of which [MENTION=5855]Fatalis[/MENTION] I genuinely thought it could generate some content but well. Now we're at it:
[COLOR="#00FF00"]- If a prize is won, will it be available again the next day or will the raffle happen between what's left?
- Could you confirm what happen when mafia each put a single ticket on black lottery: do they each get a guaranteed (random)black prize?[/COLOR]
I know very well I haven't voted, nothing really jumped into my face so far. I don't vote on pure gut/sheeping, need at least a tiny bit of reason. Also tbh last game is clouding my judgment a bit (SCV/Hybrid "scumcream" flipped townies, and the most townie of them all flipped Mafioso).
I intended to park my vote somewhere before going ZzZ, but I first need a full reread (time)
(looking forward to your own scum reads btw)[/QUOTE]
I'm still feeling out the players here, hence why I've only been prodding around so far.
Originally Posted by
PIayer
SCV I just don't like being indifferent to lynch. Lynch is catharsis.
Speaking of which
@
Fatalis
I genuinely thought it could generate some content but well. Now we're at it:
- If a prize is won, will it be available again the next day or will the raffle happen between what's left?
- Could you confirm what happen when mafia each put a single ticket on black lottery: do they each get a guaranteed (random)black prize?
I know very well I haven't voted, nothing really jumped into my face so far. I don't vote on pure gut/sheeping, need at least a tiny bit of reason. Also tbh last game is clouding my judgment a bit (SCV/Hybrid "scumcream" flipped townies, and the most townie of them all flipped Mafioso).
I intended to park my vote somewhere before going ZzZ, but I first need a full reread (time)
(looking forward to your own scum reads btw)
I'm still feeling out the players here, hence why I've only been prodding around so far.
October 6th, 2017, 06:51 PM
[QUOTE=PIayer;697944]Well, don't know what to think about this interaction. As I said, I don't understand SCV gameplay and he's basically null read to me because it can be aggressive town play genuinely wanting to put daychat in motion, or it can be pretending to do that while being de facto anti-town by spam/lack of reasonings/basically what SB16 said.
Won't vote him yet because of this, grounds aren't solid enough. About SB I don't see any reason to vote him atm, the way I see it, he attempted scumhunt on SCV because anti-town behavior and that's probably the only standard town reason to vote someone that early in game. Idd it could also be faked, but anyway I believe it's too soon to be relevant: you two postcount put together makes almost half of the thread boys, there is 0 interest tunneling SCV atm.
Would like to hear actual thoughts from Exeter/Gyr/Unknown/Nawa/trophy and less about SCV scummy style, at least for some time. For example: [U]people what is your stance on D1 lynch?[/U]
I asked about raffle mechanics because I believe it's critical to know them to take an appropriate decision on this. So far the options I see: either items repop each day, and each night has a probability for multiple NKs. Or they don't, and 3 NK is the absolue maximum possible in this game (with only 1 being guaranteed controlled by mafia) (writing this I find the idea less and less likely but still, unless I'm blind I didn't see anything in the setup about this).
In case of 3 NK max we definitely shouldn't lynch, but in first case (and most probable) it's more complicated. The raw odds for random lynch D1 are obviously bad for town, but on the other hand, no-lynch-D1-idea being mainstream hurts town even more imo, as it basically make D1 chat irrelevant if no pressure is applied to people. 48h waste.
That's why I support D1 lynch. Please everyone, share your feels on this matter.
(ps:
Strangely no, but I saw other people noting difficulties to get the mechanics straight. I still believe having as much info on this can only enhance town decision making. Obscurity profits mafia here.
From your interpretation of it (which sounds fair to my common sense) what I get so far is: raffle with a ticket on is mandatory (in my ex.1 only one player, one ticket on one raffle, he would win this 100%) and so ties are randomized.
Now anybody correct me if I'm wrong, but that would mean maf only has to put 1 ticket each on their raffle to get 1 role each for the night. Leaving them with all their tickets -1/day to contest town raffles and I imagine especially Gold & Purple (the ones with a chance for NK). That would also mean 1NK/night average is not guaranteed AT ALL assuming true rng[/QUOTE]
Enough with the paragraphs about mechanics. You could have easily posed your question in green to the host and cleared this up the previous day. You're shown what prizes are won at the day start post. As to whether items can be reused:
[COLOR="#00FF00"]Are all abilities from raffles one-use?[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]Is it possible for e.g. the prize for the red raffle to be sheriff more than once?[/COLOR]
You support day 1 lynch yet the only read you give was null on SCV, and you've stated yourself that pure odds don't favor town. If you want a productive lynch, then propose a scum read so we can start discussing.
Originally Posted by
PIayer
Well, don't know what to think about this interaction. As I said, I don't understand SCV gameplay and he's basically null read to me because it can be aggressive town play genuinely wanting to put daychat in motion, or it can be pretending to do that while being de facto anti-town by spam/lack of reasonings/basically what SB16 said.
Won't vote him yet because of this, grounds aren't solid enough. About SB I don't see any reason to vote him atm, the way I see it, he attempted scumhunt on SCV because anti-town behavior and that's probably the only standard town reason to vote someone that early in game. Idd it could also be faked, but anyway I believe it's too soon to be relevant: you two postcount put together makes almost half of the thread boys, there is 0 interest tunneling SCV atm.
Would like to hear actual thoughts from Exeter/Gyr/Unknown/Nawa/trophy and less about SCV scummy style, at least for some time. For example: people what is your stance on D1 lynch?
I asked about raffle mechanics because I believe it's critical to know them to take an appropriate decision on this. So far the options I see: either items repop each day, and each night has a probability for multiple NKs. Or they don't, and 3 NK is the absolue maximum possible in this game (with only 1 being guaranteed controlled by mafia) (writing this I find the idea less and less likely but still, unless I'm blind I didn't see anything in the setup about this).
In case of 3 NK max we definitely shouldn't lynch, but in first case (and most probable) it's more complicated. The raw odds for random lynch D1 are obviously bad for town, but on the other hand, no-lynch-D1-idea being mainstream hurts town even more imo, as it basically make D1 chat irrelevant if no pressure is applied to people. 48h waste.
That's why I support D1 lynch. Please everyone, share your feels on this matter.
(ps:
Strangely no, but I saw other people noting difficulties to get the mechanics straight. I still believe having as much info on this can only enhance town decision making. Obscurity profits mafia here.
From your interpretation of it (which sounds fair to my common sense) what I get so far is: raffle with a ticket on is mandatory (in my ex.1 only one player, one ticket on one raffle, he would win this 100%) and so ties are randomized.
Now anybody correct me if I'm wrong, but that would mean maf only has to put 1 ticket each on their raffle to get 1 role each for the night. Leaving them with all their tickets -1/day to contest town raffles and I imagine especially Gold & Purple (the ones with a chance for NK). That would also mean 1NK/night average is not guaranteed AT ALL assuming true rng
Enough with the paragraphs about mechanics. You could have easily posed your question in green to the host and cleared this up the previous day. You're shown what prizes are won at the day start post. As to whether items can be reused:
Are all abilities from raffles one-use?
Is it possible for e.g. the prize for the red raffle to be sheriff more than once?
You support day 1 lynch yet the only read you give was null on SCV, and you've stated yourself that pure odds don't favor town. If you want a productive lynch, then propose a scum read so we can start discussing.
October 6th, 2017, 06:38 PM
[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;697926][COLOR="#00FF00"]+townpoints[/COLOR] for not jumping on the little easy lynch I proposed. Maybe you're better than last time ^^ btw marshall is not a shit role, why do you think I chose it for my name?[/QUOTE]
It's laughable to credit mrtrophywife for that post. All he did was realize that the roles don't correspond to the players... which all of you shouldn't even consider unless you're intentionally trying to waste time like Dr Unknown.
Originally Posted by
Marshmallow Marshall
+townpoints for not jumping on the little easy lynch I proposed. Maybe you're better than last time ^^ btw marshall is not a shit role, why do you think I chose it for my name?
It's laughable to credit mrtrophywife for that post. All he did was realize that the roles don't correspond to the players... which all of you shouldn't even consider unless you're intentionally trying to waste time like Dr Unknown.
October 6th, 2017, 02:34 PM
[QUOTE=Dr Unknown;697860]I urge everyone to hold their votes till tomorrow (real life, not D2 in game) till we understand the point. If these are indeed the trye roles, then we lynch them all and win. If they are subterfuge, we should rethink everything[/QUOTE]
Nice to see you contributing positively to the discussion :)
Originally Posted by
Dr Unknown
I urge everyone to hold their votes till tomorrow (real life, not D2 in game) till we understand the point. If these are indeed the trye roles, then we lynch them all and win. If they are subterfuge, we should rethink everything
Nice to see you contributing positively to the discussion
October 6th, 2017, 02:31 PM
[QUOTE=Nawa;697851]Then use appropriate words.
I am keeping my evidence with myself and reveal only when i need to vote(otherwise it would be sheep vote)[/QUOTE]
What "evidence" could possibly exist in D1 in this setup?
Originally Posted by
Nawa
Then use appropriate words.
I am keeping my evidence with myself and reveal only when i need to vote(otherwise it would be sheep vote)
What "evidence" could possibly exist in D1 in this setup?
October 6th, 2017, 02:29 PM
[QUOTE=PIayer;697817]Insights because I have zero experience in RL raffle nor FM raffle and may have missed the obvious. Opinion I agree it's kinda stupid, but imo town needs to "launch" day discussion asap and I didn't know where to start (I hoped clarifying raffle mechanics would be a more constructive start than random vote people who haven't posted yet)
I don't get how you deduced 50% for my case n°1, would be kind of you to elaborate
Nothing personal pal =D you called me condescending prick last game but I love you still. I just don't understand your gameplay (or Hybrid's for that matter)
Welcome to the party! I see potential in you. Maybe HYBROD would agree to take you as his apprentice.[/QUOTE]
4/8 - 50%
Haven't seen any discussion started as a result of your questions, so it seemed you abandoned that altogether.
Originally Posted by
PIayer
Insights because I have zero experience in RL raffle nor FM raffle and may have missed the obvious. Opinion I agree it's kinda stupid, but imo town needs to "launch" day discussion asap and I didn't know where to start (I hoped clarifying raffle mechanics would be a more constructive start than random vote people who haven't posted yet)
I don't get how you deduced 50% for my case n°1, would be kind of you to elaborate
Nothing personal pal =D you called me condescending prick last game but I love you still. I just don't understand your gameplay (or Hybrid's for that matter)
Welcome to the party! I see potential in you. Maybe HYBROD would agree to take you as his apprentice.
4/8 - 50%
Haven't seen any discussion started as a result of your questions, so it seemed you abandoned that altogether.
October 5th, 2017, 09:39 PM
[QUOTE=PIayer;697804]So, I read and reread the setup but there's still things I'm not sure about the raffle.
It probably won't happen, but just to be sure with the mechanic, assuming it's rng-based:
1/ Imagine only Player1 put only 1 ticket on any lottery, will he win that lottery 100%, and if not, what chances does he have (depending on what)?
1b/ Imagine 3 players with 5 points each: Player1 put 4 tickets on a lottery while Player2 and Player3 each put 2 tickets. What are the odds for Player1 ?
2/ Imagine I won a lottery. Is the loot randomized?
3/ Imagine I got my loot. Does loot repop next day or each item is onetime? (probably the most important question as it relates directly to the number of NKs we should expecting)
Now maybe I lack common sense, and maybe it's meant to keep a part of obscurity/magic. [MENTION=8508]SuperJack[/MENTION] not sure if I should have put this in green, feel free to answer/No Comment on this ^^
@others: I'll take any insight/opinion on this since that's all we got atm (meta-votes put aside) and I'm going to bed :snorlax:
/e oh, hai MM/Hybrid, gg for solving game but SCV must die first for meta reasons[/QUOTE]
Why you are asking other players for insights/opinions when you are asking about game mechanics?
1. 50%
2. Loot is shown in the day start post.
Originally Posted by
PIayer
So, I read and reread the setup but there's still things I'm not sure about the raffle.
It probably won't happen, but just to be sure with the mechanic, assuming it's rng-based:
1/ Imagine only Player1 put only 1 ticket on any lottery, will he win that lottery 100%, and if not, what chances does he have (depending on what)?
1b/ Imagine 3 players with 5 points each: Player1 put 4 tickets on a lottery while Player2 and Player3 each put 2 tickets. What are the odds for Player1 ?
2/ Imagine I won a lottery. Is the loot randomized?
3/ Imagine I got my loot. Does loot repop next day or each item is onetime? (probably the most important question as it relates directly to the number of NKs we should expecting)
Now maybe I lack common sense, and maybe it's meant to keep a part of obscurity/magic.
@
SuperJack
not sure if I should have put this in green, feel free to answer/No Comment on this ^^
@others: I'll take any insight/opinion on this since that's all we got atm (meta-votes put aside) and I'm going to bed
/e oh, hai MM/Hybrid, gg for solving game but SCV must die first for meta reasons
Why you are asking other players for insights/opinions when you are asking about game mechanics?
1. 50%
2. Loot is shown in the day start post.
October 5th, 2017, 08:55 PM
[QUOTE=Scvmurderer;697799]No you got it backwards, we gotta get the confirmed scum Hybrid. Nawa is after![/QUOTE]
Filler posts Kappa
Originally Posted by
Scvmurderer
No you got it backwards, we gotta get the confirmed scum Hybrid. Nawa is after!
Filler posts
October 5th, 2017, 06:17 PM
October 4th, 2017, 04:49 AM
/sign or /reserve
/sign or /reserve
September 26th, 2017, 05:14 AM
[QUOTE=SuperJack;696082]I'm sure we could get about a 20 if we made one right now.
30 would take a bit of manual labor bringing in new blood. And time.
Do you not play smaller games arm?[/QUOTE]
The S-FMs I've seen do not interest me that much. Will there be a FM in the near future?
Originally Posted by
SuperJack
I'm sure we could get about a 20 if we made one right now.
30 would take a bit of manual labor bringing in new blood. And time.
Do you not play smaller games arm?
The S-FMs I've seen do not interest me that much. Will there be a FM in the near future?
September 20th, 2017, 02:14 PM
[QUOTE=SuperJack;695628]Yes/No.
There is always dips and hills in activity. We have just had a bout of inactivity. But a S-FM was recently opened and filled within 24 hours so an influx of fresh blood has appeared.
I'm sure after a couple of S-FM larger games may also appear.
I'm assuming by your use of FM you mean a game with more than 13 players?[/QUOTE]
Yeah
really sad since those ~30 player games felt like a huge event
Originally Posted by
SuperJack
Yes/No.
There is always dips and hills in activity. We have just had a bout of inactivity. But a S-FM was recently opened and filled within 24 hours so an influx of fresh blood has appeared.
I'm sure after a couple of S-FM larger games may also appear.
I'm assuming by your use of FM you mean a game with more than 13 players?
Yeah
really sad since those ~30 player games felt like a huge event
September 19th, 2017, 02:47 PM
July 16th, 2016, 03:38 PM
GGWP
[vote]M-FM Hanzo[/vote]
Was a really fun game, I felt town lost because some players just gave up though.
GGWP
-vote M-FM Hanzo
Was a really fun game, I felt town lost because some players just gave up though.
June 24th, 2016, 08:33 PM
Time is 4 AM for me, so I'll /sign if you guys are still up for another hour or so.
Time is 4 AM for me, so I'll /sign if you guys are still up for another hour or so.
June 14th, 2016, 05:39 PM
[QUOTE=Unknown1234;612481]You don't get 100 every turn, you get a number between 1-100[/QUOTE]
100 is from previous night, so double points has zero chance of being useful?
Originally Posted by
Unknown1234
You don't get 100 every turn, you get a number between 1-100
100 is from previous night, so double points has zero chance of being useful?
June 14th, 2016, 05:33 PM
[QUOTE=Cryptonic;609933]OK, I can increase Point Bank for Neutral some more. That would make sense to me.
Yes, double points is just a gamble. 50% of the time, it works in your favor; which are decent odds.[/QUOTE]
Wait a minute
Say I have 100 points, I use double points and the next day I'm lucky and receive 100*2 = 200 points
If I don't use double points, I'll still have 100+100 points = 200 anyway
Originally Posted by
Cryptonic
OK, I can increase Point Bank for Neutral some more. That would make sense to me.
Yes, double points is just a gamble. 50% of the time, it works in your favor; which are decent odds.
Wait a minute
Say I have 100 points, I use double points and the next day I'm lucky and receive 100*2 = 200 points
If I don't use double points, I'll still have 100+100 points = 200 anyway
June 14th, 2016, 03:58 AM
sign if friday start
reserve if otherwise
sign if friday start
reserve if otherwise
June 13th, 2016, 01:45 AM
Removed cult bcs its cancerous as fuck
Removed cult bcs its cancerous as fuck
June 13th, 2016, 12:34 AM
[url]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/37051-S-FM-Any[/url]
13 players
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...37051-S-FM-Any
13 players
June 12th, 2016, 10:22 PM
[QUOTE=Quick;612128]Good.
[COLOR=#00FF00]Cult/Mafia win when the have a majority correct? What if there is a jester in the game? Does Cult/Mafia still win with a majority? If there is 1 Jester + 1 Sk + 4 Cult + 1 Mafia how is the game decided?[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
Yes, will add to attain majority
If that's the scenario at night end, cult wins
Originally Posted by
Quick
Good.
Cult/Mafia win when the have a majority correct? What if there is a jester in the game? Does Cult/Mafia still win with a majority? If there is 1 Jester + 1 Sk + 4 Cult + 1 Mafia how is the game decided?
Yes, will add to attain majority
If that's the scenario at night end, cult wins
June 12th, 2016, 09:35 PM
[QUOTE=Calix;612122][COLOR=#00ff00]Can you specify what roles would fall under this category? An OoO would be helpful.
Can a Mafia member perform their night action AND the factional kill?
Is there a cap on the number of Cultists?
Are bus drivings informed?
Are targets informed if they are healed from an attack? Can a Doctor protect a player from multiple attacks?
What would the Jester, Serial Killer and Cultist show up as to a Sheriff?
Does Vigilante have unlimited shots?[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#ffffff]Jester killing up to 3 players is too severe a punishment for lynching them. I highly recommend changing it to 1.[/COLOR]
[/FONT][/QUOTE]
I'll add an OoO soon
No, I'll make it clearer
I don't think that's necessary since they can't kill and has a one night cooldown
No, I'll add feedback lists
No and no, already stated
EDIT : detects only mafia and cult, not neutral
EDIT : changed to 2 kills
Yeah lol, copied role card from M-FM, will change to 1
Thanks!
Originally Posted by
Calix
Can you specify what roles would fall under this category? An OoO would be helpful.
Can a Mafia member perform their night action AND the factional kill?
Is there a cap on the number of Cultists?
Are bus drivings informed?
Are targets informed if they are healed from an attack? Can a Doctor protect a player from multiple attacks?
What would the Jester, Serial Killer and Cultist show up as to a Sheriff?
Does Vigilante have unlimited shots?
Jester killing up to 3 players is too severe a punishment for lynching them. I highly recommend changing it to 1.
[/FONT]
I'll add an OoO soon
No, I'll make it clearer
I don't think that's necessary since they can't kill and has a one night cooldown
No, I'll add feedback lists
No and no, already stated
EDIT : detects only mafia and cult, not neutral
EDIT : changed to 2 kills
Yeah lol, copied role card from M-FM, will change to 1
Thanks!
June 12th, 2016, 09:32 PM
[QUOTE=DarknessB;612120][COLOR=#00ff00]Suggestion: Add the anti-threatened, attempted, or faked GT rule. Understand you might not agree personally, but it would help allay many of our fears.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
Alright, will do so.
Originally Posted by
DarknessB
Suggestion: Add the anti-threatened, attempted, or faked GT rule. Understand you might not agree personally, but it would help allay many of our fears.
Alright, will do so.
June 12th, 2016, 09:25 PM
[QUOTE=Quick;612117][COLOR="#00FFFF"]Suggestion: Have the ratio of Town and Mafia be more equally balanced to reflect the odds of rolling a balanced game.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
Roles will be handpicked
Originally Posted by
Quick
Suggestion: Have the ratio of Town and Mafia be more equally balanced to reflect the odds of rolling a balanced game.
Roles will be handpicked
June 12th, 2016, 09:21 PM
Setup
Any
Any
Any
Any
Any
Any
Any
Any
Any
Any
Any
Any
Any
Possible Roles
Town : Citizen, Doctor, Sheriff, Vigilante
Mafia : Consort, Godfather, Mafioso
Evil Neutral : Jester, Serial Killer
Win Conditions
Town : Eliminate the Mafia and Evil Neutral
Mafia : Eliminate the Town
Evil Neutral : Eliminate the Town
Mechanics
Days last 48 hours
Nights last 24 hours
No last wills, death notes or death descriptions
Rules
No out of game communication
No gamethrowing, attempted gamethrowing or threatened gamethrowing
No directly quoting host PM
Role Cards
Citizen
Action : -
Doctor
Action : Target a player to protect them from one attack
You are not informed if your heal was successful
Your target is not informed if they were successfully healed
Sheriff
Action : Target a player to determine if they are aligned with town or not
Vigilante
Action : Target a player to kill them
Consort
Action : Target a player to block them from performing their action
You may instead be sent to perform the mafia factional kill
If you target an evil neutral, your attack will fail and you will be informed
Godfather
Action : -
You may be sent to perform the mafia factional kill
You are immune to attacks
You are immune to detection
If you target an evil neutral, your attack will fail and you will be informed
Mafioso
Action : -
You may be sent to perform the mafia factional kill
If you target an evil neutral, your attack will fail and you will be informed
Jester
Action : -
If you are lynched, 1/3 of all remaining citizens, rounded down, commits suicide
Suicide can not be prevented
Serial Killer
Action : Target one player to kill them
If you target a member of the mafia, your attack will fail and you will be informed
If a vigilante attempts to kill you, they will fail and you will kill them instead of your original target
Setup
Any
Any
Any
Any
Any
Any
Any
Any
Any
Any
Any
Any
Any
Possible Roles
Town : Citizen, Doctor, Sheriff, Vigilante
Mafia : Consort, Godfather, Mafioso
Evil Neutral : Jester, Serial Killer
Win Conditions
Town : Eliminate the Mafia and Evil Neutral
Mafia : Eliminate the Town
Evil Neutral : Eliminate the Town
Mechanics
Days last 48 hours
Nights last 24 hours
No last wills, death notes or death descriptions
Rules
No out of game communication
No gamethrowing, attempted gamethrowing or threatened gamethrowing
No directly quoting host PM
Role Cards
Citizen
Action : -
Doctor
Action : Target a player to protect them from one attack
You are not informed if your heal was successful
Your target is not informed if they were successfully healed
Sheriff
Action : Target a player to determine if they are aligned with town or not
Vigilante
Action : Target a player to kill them
Consort
Action : Target a player to block them from performing their action
You may instead be sent to perform the mafia factional kill
If you target an evil neutral, your attack will fail and you will be informed
Godfather
Action : -
You may be sent to perform the mafia factional kill
You are immune to attacks
You are immune to detection
If you target an evil neutral, your attack will fail and you will be informed
Mafioso
Action : -
You may be sent to perform the mafia factional kill
If you target an evil neutral, your attack will fail and you will be informed
Jester
Action : -
If you are lynched, 1/3 of all remaining citizens, rounded down, commits suicide
Suicide can not be prevented
Serial Killer
Action : Target one player to kill them
If you target a member of the mafia, your attack will fail and you will be informed
If a vigilante attempts to kill you, they will fail and you will kill them instead of your original target
June 12th, 2016, 07:58 PM
[QUOTE=ThePaladin;612030]Care To Comment On My Example Of What The Equivalent Is In Poker?
Would you also say that doing that if that was allowed it would be something that makes games interesting and therefore allowed even if it's explicitly stated by a player?[/QUOTE]
I can't see how the example is relevant. Although I don't oppose the proposed rule, I am of the opinion that it is unnecessary. We should preserve the freedom of speech in mafia, if a player threatens to game-throw, it may be a valid scum tactic. In the case of a confirmed town threatening to game-throw (obviously some people are pertaining to SexyDucK's play in the last S-FM), its up to the other players as to how they want to react. Keep in mind that the act of game-throwing is still not allowed. Keep in mind that said confirmed town may be using the tactic in an effort to win the game.
Originally Posted by
ThePaladin
Care To Comment On My Example Of What The Equivalent Is In Poker?
Would you also say that doing that if that was allowed it would be something that makes games interesting and therefore allowed even if it's explicitly stated by a player?
I can't see how the example is relevant. Although I don't oppose the proposed rule, I am of the opinion that it is unnecessary. We should preserve the freedom of speech in mafia, if a player threatens to game-throw, it may be a valid scum tactic. In the case of a confirmed town threatening to game-throw (obviously some people are pertaining to SexyDucK's play in the last S-FM), its up to the other players as to how they want to react. Keep in mind that the act of game-throwing is still not allowed. Keep in mind that said confirmed town may be using the tactic in an effort to win the game.
June 12th, 2016, 07:38 PM
[QUOTE=MattZed;611992]I personally find threatening to break a rule rather distasteful. [COLOR="#FF0000"]The reason it's not already a rule is that FM historically has a very strong free speech tradition; you're allowed to be an asshole in-game. [/COLOR]However, there's also a strong tradition for letting hosts dictate how their games are played, and hosts are always free to prohibit tactics they find distasteful. (I'll likely make a "no threatening to break rules" rule in my future games, myself.)
Strictly speaking, I'm not opposed to making an FM-wide rule against threatening to break rules, and I get the impression there are many in the community who would like to see such a rule.[/QUOTE]
This is what makes games interesting [SIZE=1]FM Batman[/SIZE]
Originally Posted by
MattZed
I personally find threatening to break a rule rather distasteful. The reason it's not already a rule is that FM historically has a very strong free speech tradition; you're allowed to be an asshole in-game. However, there's also a strong tradition for letting hosts dictate how their games are played, and hosts are always free to prohibit tactics they find distasteful. (I'll likely make a "no threatening to break rules" rule in my future games, myself.)
Strictly speaking, I'm not opposed to making an FM-wide rule against threatening to break rules, and I get the impression there are many in the community who would like to see such a rule.
This is what makes games interesting FM Batman
June 12th, 2016, 05:42 PM
[QUOTE=DarknessB;611911]This vote is a joke, right? Three different role claims, outing multiple TPRs, threatening to game-throw?[/QUOTE]
No, I legit thought that he put the most effort into winning the game.
Originally Posted by
DarknessB
This vote is a joke, right? Three different role claims, outing multiple TPRs, threatening to game-throw?
No, I legit thought that he put the most effort into winning the game.
June 12th, 2016, 05:39 PM
GG everyone! Thanks to Mattzed for hosting the game!
I believe that most* showed effort and commitment to the game, IMO most played well too. The real reason why we won here is because of scum's night actions though.
[SIZE=1]*minus shifty[/SIZE]
[vote]SexyDucK[/vote]
GG everyone! Thanks to Mattzed for hosting the game!
I believe that most* showed effort and commitment to the game, IMO most played well too. The real reason why we won here is because of scum's night actions though.
*minus shifty
-vote SexyDucK
June 12th, 2016, 01:54 AM
Checked POD, indeed underboss.
Checked POD, indeed underboss.
June 10th, 2016, 05:23 PM
[QUOTE=Sino;611315]Yes, he was the most likely to get recruited n1, which is why i think there's no mole[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sino;611316]And yes, Fatalis did push PoD yesterday[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sino;611439]What world do you believe we're in ?
Also, i'm tired, not able to think properly so i'm gonna be off pretty soon[/QUOTE]
Are you fucking serious with these posts? I was the only who had any sort of believe that we might have 2 underbosses in the game. No where in the previous day did I ever vote POD.
[vote]G4slight[/vote]
We had a 1v1 where G4slight is now clearly scum and you tried to defend him? My last will had you + G4slight as the scum team, sadly you're indeed caporegime.
Originally Posted by
Sino
Yes, he was the most likely to get recruited n1, which is why i think there's no mole
Originally Posted by
Sino
And yes, Fatalis did push PoD yesterday
Originally Posted by
Sino
What world do you believe we're in ?
Also, i'm tired, not able to think properly so i'm gonna be off pretty soon
Are you fucking serious with these posts? I was the only who had any sort of believe that we might have 2 underbosses in the game. No where in the previous day did I ever vote POD.
-vote G4slight
We had a 1v1 where G4slight is now clearly scum and you tried to defend him? My last will had you + G4slight as the scum team, sadly you're indeed caporegime.
June 10th, 2016, 05:13 PM
[QUOTE=Sino;611199]Ok, Fatalis, could we know who you checked and what the result was ?[/QUOTE]
You, caporegime.
Originally Posted by
Sino
Ok, Fatalis, could we know who you checked and what the result was ?
You, caporegime.