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[QUOTE=BigtheJonathan;947596]Hey so i'm currently serving in the United States Marine Corps and personally for me, it was a horrible move.
But the worst part is not that we left Afghanistan. The worst part is HOW we left Afghanistan. We left behind 8+ trillion dollars worth of military grade weapons from small arms to missiles, armored vehicles, and aircrafts. We also left behind AMERICAN people left to be stuck there. We also let 13 U.S Service members to die in an attack as a result of the hasty withdrawal.

Marine Corps Lance Cpl. David L. Espinoza, 20, of Rio Bravo, Texas
Marine Corps Sgt. Nicole L. Gee, 23, of Sacramento, Calif.
Marine Corps Staff Sgt. Darin T. Hoover, 31, of Salt Lake City
Marine Corps Cpl. Hunter Lopez, 22, of Indio, Calif.
Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Rylee J. McCollum, 20, of Jackson, Wyo.
Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Dylan R. Merola, 20, of Rancho Cucamonga, Calif.
Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Kareem M. Nikoui, 20, of Norco, Calif.
Marine Corps Sgt. Johanny Rosario Pichardo, 25, of Lawrence, Mass.
Marine Corps Cpl. Humberto A. Sanchez, 22, of Logansport, Ind.
Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Jared M. Schmitz, 20, of St. Charles, Mo.
Marine Corps Cpl. Daegan W. Page, 23, of Omaha, Neb.
Navy Hospital Corpsman Maxton W. Soviak, 22, of Berlin Heights, Ohio
Army Staff Sgt. Ryan C. Knauss, 23, of Corryton, Tenn.

God bless these brave men and women... they shall be remembered. May they rest in peace.

Trump had a plan made specifically to protect the embassies preventing a Taliban take over, and an organized evacuation plan to leave Afghanistan. God bless Trump he's done so much for the country, no one even knows. But President Biden destroyed those plans resulting in an absolute catastrophe.
That's all I have to say for now.[/QUOTE]

Weren't those 8 trillion dollars worth of equipment for the Afghanistan army?

Originally Posted by BigtheJonathan

Hey so i'm currently serving in the United States Marine Corps and personally for me, it was a horrible move.
But the worst part is not that we left Afghanistan. The worst part is HOW we left Afghanistan. We left behind 8+ trillion dollars worth of military grade weapons from small arms to missiles, armored vehicles, and aircrafts. We also left behind AMERICAN people left to be stuck there. We also let 13 U.S Service members to die in an attack as a result of the hasty withdrawal.

Marine Corps Lance Cpl. David L. Espinoza, 20, of Rio Bravo, Texas
Marine Corps Sgt. Nicole L. Gee, 23, of Sacramento, Calif.
Marine Corps Staff Sgt. Darin T. Hoover, 31, of Salt Lake City
Marine Corps Cpl. Hunter Lopez, 22, of Indio, Calif.
Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Rylee J. McCollum, 20, of Jackson, Wyo.
Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Dylan R. Merola, 20, of Rancho Cucamonga, Calif.
Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Kareem M. Nikoui, 20, of Norco, Calif.
Marine Corps Sgt. Johanny Rosario Pichardo, 25, of Lawrence, Mass.
Marine Corps Cpl. Humberto A. Sanchez, 22, of Logansport, Ind.
Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Jared M. Schmitz, 20, of St. Charles, Mo.
Marine Corps Cpl. Daegan W. Page, 23, of Omaha, Neb.
Navy Hospital Corpsman Maxton W. Soviak, 22, of Berlin Heights, Ohio
Army Staff Sgt. Ryan C. Knauss, 23, of Corryton, Tenn.

God bless these brave men and women... they shall be remembered. May they rest in peace.

Trump had a plan made specifically to protect the embassies preventing a Taliban take over, and an organized evacuation plan to leave Afghanistan. God bless Trump he's done so much for the country, no one even knows. But President Biden destroyed those plans resulting in an absolute catastrophe.
That's all I have to say for now.

Weren't those 8 trillion dollars worth of equipment for the Afghanistan army?

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The US in cahoots with ISIS is a good start. You can connect the dots after that.[/QUOTE]

The fact that you're unable to provide any sort of external links to support your conspiracy theories makes me think that maybe there is none.

Originally Posted by NotPaopan

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The US in cahoots with ISIS is a good start. You can connect the dots after that.

The fact that you're unable to provide any sort of external links to support your conspiracy theories makes me think that maybe there is none.

[QUOTE=NotPaopan;943968]It is! After the US negotiated with the ISIS-K and staged a bomb attack on Kabul to keep the money flowing. Aftermath includes Taliban gonna get mad. Biden showing some "force". Win-win for them.

+1.6% increase of defence budget. Corruption at its finest.[/QUOTE]

Can you give me evidence for this? I'm stupid and can't use google effectively. My search terms were "us kabul staged bomb attack secret deal" and "us isis-k negotiation".

Originally Posted by NotPaopan

It is! After the US negotiated with the ISIS-K and staged a bomb attack on Kabul to keep the money flowing. Aftermath includes Taliban gonna get mad. Biden showing some "force". Win-win for them.

+1.6% increase of defence budget. Corruption at its finest.

Can you give me evidence for this? I'm stupid and can't use google effectively. My search terms were "us kabul staged bomb attack secret deal" and "us isis-k negotiation".

[QUOTE=Voss;943965]My point had less to do with overall government policy among all the countries in the world and more specifically with "all brown people are terrorists"

"[I]We don’t know. We just learned, for example, that at least 100 of the refugees U.S. military has flown out of Kabul – people we’re told are heroes – are in fact on terror watch lists. One man we evacuated apparently works for ISIS. Today, an Afghan interpreter told Fox News that this kind of thing is happening constantly. People are getting on planes in Kabul without any proof of identification whatsoever. It’s like voting in California:

Interpreter Carl, Aug. 27: I know people that are in the same situation as I am right now. They have fought for the United States, they have provided supplies for the United States. But guess what? There are people that are getting inside the airport that have never worked, they knew somebody with a green card or they know somebody with a passport, that’s how they got through inside. I know people that are inside but they never worked.[/I]"

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-afghan-refugees[/url][/QUOTE]

hi marsh

again, this is what I meant by racist and unpatriotic.

Originally Posted by Voss

My point had less to do with overall government policy among all the countries in the world and more specifically with "all brown people are terrorists"

"We don’t know. We just learned, for example, that at least 100 of the refugees U.S. military has flown out of Kabul – people we’re told are heroes – are in fact on terror watch lists. One man we evacuated apparently works for ISIS. Today, an Afghan interpreter told Fox News that this kind of thing is happening constantly. People are getting on planes in Kabul without any proof of identification whatsoever. It’s like voting in California:

Interpreter Carl, Aug. 27: I know people that are in the same situation as I am right now. They have fought for the United States, they have provided supplies for the United States. But guess what? There are people that are getting inside the airport that have never worked, they knew somebody with a green card or they know somebody with a passport, that’s how they got through inside. I know people that are inside but they never worked."

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tuck...fghan-refugees

hi marsh

again, this is what I meant by racist and unpatriotic.

[QUOTE=NotPaopan;943968]It is! After the US negotiated with the ISIS-K and staged a bomb attack on Kabul to keep the money flowing. Aftermath includes Taliban gonna get mad. Biden showing some "force". Win-win for them.

+1.6% increase of defence budget. Corruption at its finest.[/QUOTE]

Do you have evidence of the negotiation?

Originally Posted by NotPaopan

It is! After the US negotiated with the ISIS-K and staged a bomb attack on Kabul to keep the money flowing. Aftermath includes Taliban gonna get mad. Biden showing some "force". Win-win for them.

+1.6% increase of defence budget. Corruption at its finest.

Do you have evidence of the negotiation?

[QUOTE=NotPaopan;943962]I'm no expert but sending an attack drone to kill some civilians and cause havoc doesn't seem like a [I]withdrawal[/I].[/QUOTE]

I didn't know the mission was to kill civilians! /s

Originally Posted by NotPaopan

I'm no expert but sending an attack drone to kill some civilians and cause havoc doesn't seem like a withdrawal.

I didn't know the mission was to kill civilians! /s

[QUOTE=OzyWho;943963]It's not racist though, that's a misleading thought.
If you look at the study I posted [URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/48228-Double-Standards-in-Racism-and-Sexism?p=943949#post943949"]here[/URL](which comprised of ~11k people), you'll find that in the UK people have a consensus that ethnic diversity is good, but at the same time that the rate of change and migration is too rapid. It's just a small part of a ~160 pages of that study, but it showcases well how the usual "you're against immigrants makes you racist" train of thought is just, for all intents and purposes, proven wrong.[/QUOTE]

My point had less to do with overall government policy among all the countries in the world and more specifically with "all brown people are terrorists"

"[I]We don’t know. We just learned, for example, that at least 100 of the refugees U.S. military has flown out of Kabul – people we’re told are heroes – are in fact on terror watch lists. One man we evacuated apparently works for ISIS. Today, an Afghan interpreter told Fox News that this kind of thing is happening constantly. People are getting on planes in Kabul without any proof of identification whatsoever. It’s like voting in California:

Interpreter Carl, Aug. 27: I know people that are in the same situation as I am right now. They have fought for the United States, they have provided supplies for the United States. But guess what? There are people that are getting inside the airport that have never worked, they knew somebody with a green card or they know somebody with a passport, that’s how they got through inside. I know people that are inside but they never worked.[/I]"

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-afghan-refugees[/url]

Originally Posted by OzyWho

It's not racist though, that's a misleading thought.
If you look at the study I posted here(which comprised of ~11k people), you'll find that in the UK people have a consensus that ethnic diversity is good, but at the same time that the rate of change and migration is too rapid. It's just a small part of a ~160 pages of that study, but it showcases well how the usual "you're against immigrants makes you racist" train of thought is just, for all intents and purposes, proven wrong.

My point had less to do with overall government policy among all the countries in the world and more specifically with "all brown people are terrorists"

"We don’t know. We just learned, for example, that at least 100 of the refugees U.S. military has flown out of Kabul – people we’re told are heroes – are in fact on terror watch lists. One man we evacuated apparently works for ISIS. Today, an Afghan interpreter told Fox News that this kind of thing is happening constantly. People are getting on planes in Kabul without any proof of identification whatsoever. It’s like voting in California:

Interpreter Carl, Aug. 27: I know people that are in the same situation as I am right now. They have fought for the United States, they have provided supplies for the United States. But guess what? There are people that are getting inside the airport that have never worked, they knew somebody with a green card or they know somebody with a passport, that’s how they got through inside. I know people that are inside but they never worked."

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tuck...fghan-refugees

Cool that US is ending a never-ending war.
Very sad that America will be leaving behind some Afghans who helped (interpretters, etc).
Very sad that some of America's right are already against bringing in those refugees (which is racist AND unpatriotic).

I don't have much more of an opinion than that because I don't have a military intelligence background.

Cool that US is ending a never-ending war.
Very sad that America will be leaving behind some Afghans who helped (interpretters, etc).
Very sad that some of America's right are already against bringing in those refugees (which is racist AND unpatriotic).

I don't have much more of an opinion than that because I don't have a military intelligence background.