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[QUOTE=Helz;924044]
A team scums win-con generally means they individually get their win faster and easier if their team mates are alive. How would you phrase that 'motivating' factor?[/QUOTE]
I don't believe anyone defends their mate for the purpose of winning [I]faster[/I] imho.

Originally Posted by Helz

A team scums win-con generally means they individually get their win faster and easier if their team mates are alive. How would you phrase that 'motivating' factor?

I don't believe anyone defends their mate for the purpose of winning faster imho.

[QUOTE]The Mafia Players have a vested interest in keeping their team mates alive
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I disagree with this.
-When there is not a mechanical reason for it - it's dependant on playstyle for inflexible players whilst situation dependant for the flexible players. Then Bussing is just another tool for going deep instead of power-wolfing or coasting.
-As far as I know, most people prefer to be solo scum. It's easier.
-Me personally, I'd bus my scummate in a moments notice when it becomes the path of least resistance.
-Statistically, games a scum gets lynched D1 are more scum won than not. Ot at least that's how it's perceived at least by some.

[I](Also, the interest isn't necessarily invested, but that's semantics)[/I]

The Mafia Players have a vested interest in keeping their team mates alive

I disagree with this.
-When there is not a mechanical reason for it - it's dependant on playstyle for inflexible players whilst situation dependant for the flexible players. Then Bussing is just another tool for going deep instead of power-wolfing or coasting.
-As far as I know, most people prefer to be solo scum. It's easier.
-Me personally, I'd bus my scummate in a moments notice when it becomes the path of least resistance.
-Statistically, games a scum gets lynched D1 are more scum won than not. Ot at least that's how it's perceived at least by some.

(Also, the interest isn't necessarily invested, but that's semantics)

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You may notice that the communication is just kind of awkward or out of place.
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Reading this particular sentence made me think of [COLOR="#00FF00"]town[/COLOR] [I](not giving name)[/I].
This is a hard one tbh. Because Scums most often seem to make more sense than when they're town.
So much so that idk if I agree.


Btw, I lol'd about the lack of consistency part.
I expect Mag to make 10 different reads on MM within 1 hour or else he is Scum. And I expect Light to consistently misread/misremember things or else he is Scum. :weed:
I'M JOKING I'M JOKING GUYS jeez xD
Well, just a exaggeration about one and none about the other. :P

[QUOTE][COLOR="#ffFFff"] Freezing [/COLOR][/QUOTE]
I CAN GENUINELY SAY I CAUGHT SOLID FREEZING EOD1 BUT NOBODY CARED WHEN I POINTED IT OUT.

[MENTION=29377]Marshmallow Marshall[/MENTION]
I think you said blink was [COLOR="#ffFFff"] flailing[/COLOR]?


Kovath literally called out Solid D1 on his lack of scumhunting and willingness to [I]speedlynch[/I].
Kovath died N1, nobody read his ISO. Even though he was top1 or top2 player in the lobby and most of his D1 focus was on Solid - a scum

That pillow pushing is new idea for me. Thanks.

[MENTION=10617]Helz[/MENTION]
Do you have a tip for scum who are prone to [COLOR="#FFFFFF"]mirroring[/COLOR]? More specifically, I remember copying townies opinions until they scumread my ally and it made me have my first original thought in the game. For some reason that later made everyone think we can't be on same team because it's too stupid they said.
Aanyways. Got a remedy against that? Any little thing is helpful.

I was definitely victim of coordinated attacks last game.
Except the attacks were 1 scum + Huey (the eternal town scum Kappa), while every other scum + others sheeped. :(


Btw Helz. On the "building counter train" - could you add that the counter claim could be from town lynch to another town lynch in order to line up lynches?
That's what happened last game, and I didn't even know of such tactic for mafia until I died and Kovath (or was it rumox?) told me it in the graveyard chat.

This should be core read for everyone tbh.
Not knowing the basic difference of TMI and motivation between the two alignments - idk how can one hope to scumhunt without relying on TPR's?

You may notice that the communication is just kind of awkward or out of place.

Reading this particular sentence made me think of town (not giving name).
This is a hard one tbh. Because Scums most often seem to make more sense than when they're town.
So much so that idk if I agree.


Btw, I lol'd about the lack of consistency part.
I expect Mag to make 10 different reads on MM within 1 hour or else he is Scum. And I expect Light to consistently misread/misremember things or else he is Scum.
I'M JOKING I'M JOKING GUYS jeez xD
Well, just a exaggeration about one and none about the other. :P

Freezing

I CAN GENUINELY SAY I CAUGHT SOLID FREEZING EOD1 BUT NOBODY CARED WHEN I POINTED IT OUT.

@Marshmallow Marshall
I think you said blink was flailing?


Kovath literally called out Solid D1 on his lack of scumhunting and willingness to speedlynch.
Kovath died N1, nobody read his ISO. Even though he was top1 or top2 player in the lobby and most of his D1 focus was on Solid - a scum

That pillow pushing is new idea for me. Thanks.

@Helz
Do you have a tip for scum who are prone to mirroring? More specifically, I remember copying townies opinions until they scumread my ally and it made me have my first original thought in the game. For some reason that later made everyone think we can't be on same team because it's too stupid they said.
Aanyways. Got a remedy against that? Any little thing is helpful.

I was definitely victim of coordinated attacks last game.
Except the attacks were 1 scum + Huey (the eternal town scum ), while every other scum + others sheeped.


Btw Helz. On the "building counter train" - could you add that the counter claim could be from town lynch to another town lynch in order to line up lynches?
That's what happened last game, and I didn't even know of such tactic for mafia until I died and Kovath (or was it rumox?) told me it in the graveyard chat.

This should be core read for everyone tbh.
Not knowing the basic difference of TMI and motivation between the two alignments - idk how can one hope to scumhunt without relying on TPR's?