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Yeah and? A framer needs investigative town roles alive to be efficient. Unlike the Beguiler. Can't be fixed with a consigliere.

Blackmailer don't need other roles to work. They are pretty solid in what they do. They shut people up.

Yeah and? A framer needs investigative town roles alive to be efficient. Unlike the Beguiler. Can't be fixed with a consigliere.

Blackmailer don't need other roles to work. They are pretty solid in what they do. They shut people up.

Yes he does. Lol. Why do you call him too weak if you don't even know what he can do and what he can't.

Self own detected :P

Yes he does. Lol. Why do you call him too weak if you don't even know what he can do and what he can't.

Self own detected :P

He can block mayor and the marshall for all time. I think that is pretty powerful. Shutting sheriffs down from revealing their information at day is powerful.
Ever tried to fake blackmail as jester? Works out quite decently.

There are some voices which suggest that a blackmailer should be able to silence a jailed target...

He can block mayor and the marshall for all time. I think that is pretty powerful. Shutting sheriffs down from revealing their information at day is powerful.
Ever tried to fake blackmail as jester? Works out quite decently.

There are some voices which suggest that a blackmailer should be able to silence a jailed target...

Bm is pretty strong already. Add the option to silence criers and its k.

Framer might need some love though. Make him able to frame teammates as town as an option.

Bm is pretty strong already. Add the option to silence criers and its k.

Framer might need some love though. Make him able to frame teammates as town as an option.

I have a better idea. Replace the Crier role with Stump!

I have a better idea. Replace the Crier role with Stump!