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or maybe hate it, uh

esp if nixon got framed

ogod

or maybe hate it, uh

esp if nixon got framed

ogod

the tie will yield us a LOT of info, I like it

the tie will yield us a LOT of info, I like it

This is a tie I feel much better about.

This is a tie I feel much better about.

[QUOTE=FM-Abraham Lincoln;969460]I could theoretically vote FDR.[/QUOTE]

if you do, do it fast so I can vote nixon. If FDR dies because of you, you're next.

Originally Posted by FM-Abraham Lincoln

I could theoretically vote FDR.

if you do, do it fast so I can vote nixon. If FDR dies because of you, you're next.

[QUOTE=FM-Abraham Lincoln;969457]About what?[/QUOTE]

[SPOILER=spoiler]about being framed[/SPOILER]

Originally Posted by FM-Abraham Lincoln

About what?

Spoiler : spoiler :

about being framed

[QUOTE=FM-Abraham Lincoln;969451]I'm not convinced this is the right vote.[/QUOTE]

Certainly not worse than FDR, tho

Originally Posted by FM-Abraham Lincoln

I'm not convinced this is the right vote.

Certainly not worse than FDR, tho

[QUOTE=FM-Abraham Lincoln;969450]It will only quote the entire post and never just the bit i want to focus on.[/QUOTE]

You can manually delete the irrelevant bits
At least that's how I do

Originally Posted by FM-Abraham Lincoln

It will only quote the entire post and never just the bit i want to focus on.

You can manually delete the irrelevant bits
At least that's how I do

[QUOTE=FM-John F Kennedy;969444]Is Nixon or Fdr will give us more info[/QUOTE]

FDR gives fuck all

FDR is never the lynch if you ask me

Originally Posted by FM-John F Kennedy

Is Nixon or Fdr will give us more info

FDR gives fuck all

FDR is never the lynch if you ask me

[QUOTE=FM-Abraham Lincoln;969441]I just want to state for the record that as annoyed as some of you may be by my method of playing. I am just as annoyed back by the constant criticism of what i feel is an perfectly valid way of play. I trust my way of solving and i try to describe the way i see things as best as possible. I'm not trying to be obstinate. But if my arguments doesn't convince then there is nothing more i can do.
I also think it's wrong to say i've done "nothing" to convince y'all. I've described that i think Nixon's manner of speaking and way he was addressing me was scummy and not the way i believe town!him would have addressed me. Some of his posts too felt scummy. Particularly the one where he said: "sometimes people are just obvtown" and one where he said: "How smart it was for you (as an wolf)" to me when i just said why i voted an president which was ???. He called me powerwolfing then changed his stance to say i'm tunneling and his read development on slots is either completely absent or doesn't make sense when put under closer scrutiny. He lied about the intent behind some of my posts to make me look bad, in what felt like an deliberate manner. Calling me anti-town and stubborn and generally just being as pedantic and argumentative as possible rather than actually trying to be town. etc etc etc.
So don't any of y'all blame me for not doing more, from my POV you were just too narrow minded to understand.[/QUOTE]

Thank you that is good

Originally Posted by FM-Abraham Lincoln

I just want to state for the record that as annoyed as some of you may be by my method of playing. I am just as annoyed back by the constant criticism of what i feel is an perfectly valid way of play. I trust my way of solving and i try to describe the way i see things as best as possible. I'm not trying to be obstinate. But if my arguments doesn't convince then there is nothing more i can do.
I also think it's wrong to say i've done "nothing" to convince y'all. I've described that i think Nixon's manner of speaking and way he was addressing me was scummy and not the way i believe town!him would have addressed me. Some of his posts too felt scummy. Particularly the one where he said: "sometimes people are just obvtown" and one where he said: "How smart it was for you (as an wolf)" to me when i just said why i voted an president which was ???. He called me powerwolfing then changed his stance to say i'm tunneling and his read development on slots is either completely absent or doesn't make sense when put under closer scrutiny. He lied about the intent behind some of my posts to make me look bad, in what felt like an deliberate manner. Calling me anti-town and stubborn and generally just being as pedantic and argumentative as possible rather than actually trying to be town. etc etc etc.
So don't any of y'all blame me for not doing more, from my POV you were just too narrow minded to understand.

Thank you that is good

Meh, nevermind, madison probably is in a better position than Nixon

Meh, nevermind, madison probably is in a better position than Nixon

Maybe we should just CFD onto Madison

Maybe we should just CFD onto Madison

[QUOTE=FM-Franklin D Roosevelt;969435]Nah I'm standing my ground. Go down with the ship if I have to Nixon is scum.

[vote]FM-Richard Nixon[/vote][/QUOTE]

for the love of god give me a why
any why

Originally Posted by FM-Franklin D Roosevelt

Nah I'm standing my ground. Go down with the ship if I have to Nixon is scum.

-vote FM-Richard Nixon

for the love of god give me a why
any why

Compare :

[QUOTE=FM-Thomas Jefferson;969143]With all due respect Mr. Nixon, there is no need to personally attack another gentleman in this forum.

I also find it funny seeing as I know that the scum has tried to frame me by killing Mr. Truman that you would be so bold as to push me early into the day while that though is fresh in everyones minds.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Thomas Jefferson;969141]The more this gentleman posts the more and more my opinion of him regresses.

[B]This also looks like a bit of a slip to me.[/B]



I know this was in reference to our dear Mr. Teddy Roosevelt, however I am in that conclusion for the time being.[/QUOTE]

With Nixon's answer :

[QUOTE=FM-Richard Nixon;969145]the statement "wolves don't always try harder" is an objective statement. and unless this is anyone's first FM game, this has been experienced by all people here. which is why slanking is always an issue when it comes to determining whether the slanking is wolf or town in any given context. I feel like you are trying dummy hard to make nothing into something when it comes to my slot[/QUOTE]

Nixon is here stating facts and arguing his position, Jefferson is [U]claiming stuff[/U] out of the blue. Not even going to mention that Jefferson there tries to bind Nixon and Wilson, which makes absolutely no sense tbh ?

Compare :

Originally Posted by FM-Thomas Jefferson

With all due respect Mr. Nixon, there is no need to personally attack another gentleman in this forum.

I also find it funny seeing as I know that the scum has tried to frame me by killing Mr. Truman that you would be so bold as to push me early into the day while that though is fresh in everyones minds.

Originally Posted by FM-Thomas Jefferson

The more this gentleman posts the more and more my opinion of him regresses.

This also looks like a bit of a slip to me.



I know this was in reference to our dear Mr. Teddy Roosevelt, however I am in that conclusion for the time being.

With Nixon's answer :

Originally Posted by FM-Richard Nixon

the statement "wolves don't always try harder" is an objective statement. and unless this is anyone's first FM game, this has been experienced by all people here. which is why slanking is always an issue when it comes to determining whether the slanking is wolf or town in any given context. I feel like you are trying dummy hard to make nothing into something when it comes to my slot

Nixon is here stating facts and arguing his position, Jefferson is claiming stuff out of the blue. Not even going to mention that Jefferson there tries to bind Nixon and Wilson, which makes absolutely no sense tbh ?

[QUOTE=FM-Franklin D Roosevelt;969427]I want the record to show the split between me and Nixon.[/QUOTE]

WHY

WHY DON'T YOU FUCKING TELL US YOUR THOUGHTS

Originally Posted by FM-Franklin D Roosevelt

I want the record to show the split between me and Nixon.

WHY

WHY DON'T YOU FUCKING TELL US YOUR THOUGHTS

[QUOTE=FM-Franklin D Roosevelt;969424]One hour to go, this is my plea. It is obviously between me and Nixon.

I'd encourage those voting jefferson to choose between us.[/QUOTE]

wtf

Originally Posted by FM-Franklin D Roosevelt

One hour to go, this is my plea. It is obviously between me and Nixon.

I'd encourage those voting jefferson to choose between us.

wtf

[QUOTE=FM-John F Kennedy;969421]So should I stick to. Fdr or go to nixon[/QUOTE]

go nixon if you must

Originally Posted by FM-John F Kennedy

So should I stick to. Fdr or go to nixon

go nixon if you must

The more I think about it the more I'm convinced that FDR is the worse of the 3 current wagons. This slot was so inactive that lynching it won't let us get any relevant intel.

The more I think about it the more I'm convinced that FDR is the worse of the 3 current wagons. This slot was so inactive that lynching it won't let us get any relevant intel.

[QUOTE=FM-Abraham Lincoln;969416]Actually i'm not sure Jefferson is scum, but just for the sake of the argument i'm saying if he was you probably shouldn't like the FDR wagon.[/QUOTE]

You seemed to hate that slot too earlier, what made you change your mind ?

Originally Posted by FM-Abraham Lincoln

Actually i'm not sure Jefferson is scum, but just for the sake of the argument i'm saying if he was you probably shouldn't like the FDR wagon.

You seemed to hate that slot too earlier, what made you change your mind ?

As I've said earlier : none of what FDR does makes sense so it [I]could[/I] be a clueless town. The fact that pushing him is [U]that[/U] easy probably means he's just that, rather than reckless/overconfident scum IMO.
The ONE thing that bothers me is that he tends to simply ignore posts that bother him too much... Which feels like a very anti-town thing to do. I guess my defense of FDR is kinda TWTBW, uh ? That fucking sucks balls. Yeah I guess FDR can die but I wish we'd get a better slot.
I personally don't see what Nixon has done that warrants so much votes on his ass, but he is much more controversial and thus probably a better lynch regardless.
Jefferson has been a scum read of mine since their argument with Nixon in which I found Jefferson's push far worse than Lincoln's.

As I've said earlier : none of what FDR does makes sense so it could be a clueless town. The fact that pushing him is that easy probably means he's just that, rather than reckless/overconfident scum IMO.
The ONE thing that bothers me is that he tends to simply ignore posts that bother him too much... Which feels like a very anti-town thing to do. I guess my defense of FDR is kinda TWTBW, uh ? That fucking sucks balls. Yeah I guess FDR can die but I wish we'd get a better slot.
I personally don't see what Nixon has done that warrants so much votes on his ass, but he is much more controversial and thus probably a better lynch regardless.
Jefferson has been a scum read of mine since their argument with Nixon in which I found Jefferson's push far worse than Lincoln's.

[QUOTE=FM-John F Kennedy;969413]Currently in the middle of writing cover letters so I'm on a break. What do yall want from me.

Sell me why Jefferson or Nixon is scummier than fdr[/QUOTE]

Fdr is about to get fucking yeeted out of the continent, implying scum is on his train.

Originally Posted by FM-John F Kennedy

Currently in the middle of writing cover letters so I'm on a break. What do yall want from me.

Sell me why Jefferson or Nixon is scummier than fdr

Fdr is about to get fucking yeeted out of the continent, implying scum is on his train.

[QUOTE=FM-James Monroe;969395]Eisenhower and Lincoln for the love of all that is good can one of you explain why you think Nixon is scummy[/QUOTE]

Honestly, this. Nixon would be dead already if any of his pushers had presented any half decent arguments but AFAIK no one ever bothered to.
Okay no that's dishonest : the Eisenhower's wagonomics are a very good argument, tbh, and the way votes evolved since I left is very enlightening indeed. Still, this feels a little lackluster IMO so I'll [VOTE]FM-Thomas Jefferson[/VOTE]

because I am much more confident in this slot being scum.

Originally Posted by FM-James Monroe

Eisenhower and Lincoln for the love of all that is good can one of you explain why you think Nixon is scummy

Honestly, this. Nixon would be dead already if any of his pushers had presented any half decent arguments but AFAIK no one ever bothered to.
Okay no that's dishonest : the Eisenhower's wagonomics are a very good argument, tbh, and the way votes evolved since I left is very enlightening indeed. Still, this feels a little lackluster IMO so I'll

-vote FM-Thomas Jefferson

because I am much more confident in this slot being scum.

[QUOTE=FM-Dwight D Eisenhower;969377]why do you dislike them? what is the preference? why are they particularly townie?

Like I don't feel confident that FDR, who has bad tone and keeps saying derpy shit, is going to flip mafia with five votes on them on day 3 of an anon game that town have been cruising to an easy loss... I think it's mathematically extremely likely that mafia (at least 1 but probably more) are voting there right now so either they are bussing or he's town. Given he's making a habit out of making posts that make me make that confused scrunchy face I am sure some town are there too but he's an easy mischop if he's town and given the gamestate I don't think it's the correct chop.

But Nixon... Nixon is a fine wagon?

Your measure for what equates to good or bad reasoning for a vote is kinda all over the place. You dislike these wagons, but your prepared alternative is someone you feel so tepidly towards that the simple act of them posting and engaging renders it unnecessary?

If you haven't got suspicions to push on day 3 of a game town is losing what the fuck are you doing here?[/QUOTE]

It seems you misunderstood me somewhat, allow me to clarify.
We seem to be on the same train of thought about FDR.
I don't see how nixon is scummy, I've said it thrice by now but I'll say it again : Nixon/Lincoln felt very T/T to me, whereas Nixon/Jefferson felt T/S. Maybe I'm turbo tunneled on Jefferson because of the "knowing" shtick but I honestly feel worse about Jefferson than about Nixon.
My vote on Jefferson was a vote to force him to generate more content, first, I wasn't considering voting Jefferson all the way until they get lynched (yet). Thus, since they were willing to speak, I had no need to vote them.
I also believe your comment on "having suspicions to push" isn't entirely honest, because if I want to offer a counterwagon I not only need suspicions but a strong enough argument that I can convince you guys.

Originally Posted by FM-Dwight D Eisenhower

why do you dislike them? what is the preference? why are they particularly townie?

Like I don't feel confident that FDR, who has bad tone and keeps saying derpy shit, is going to flip mafia with five votes on them on day 3 of an anon game that town have been cruising to an easy loss... I think it's mathematically extremely likely that mafia (at least 1 but probably more) are voting there right now so either they are bussing or he's town. Given he's making a habit out of making posts that make me make that confused scrunchy face I am sure some town are there too but he's an easy mischop if he's town and given the gamestate I don't think it's the correct chop.

But Nixon... Nixon is a fine wagon?

Your measure for what equates to good or bad reasoning for a vote is kinda all over the place. You dislike these wagons, but your prepared alternative is someone you feel so tepidly towards that the simple act of them posting and engaging renders it unnecessary?

If you haven't got suspicions to push on day 3 of a game town is losing what the fuck are you doing here?

It seems you misunderstood me somewhat, allow me to clarify.
We seem to be on the same train of thought about FDR.
I don't see how nixon is scummy, I've said it thrice by now but I'll say it again : Nixon/Lincoln felt very T/T to me, whereas Nixon/Jefferson felt T/S. Maybe I'm turbo tunneled on Jefferson because of the "knowing" shtick but I honestly feel worse about Jefferson than about Nixon.
My vote on Jefferson was a vote to force him to generate more content, first, I wasn't considering voting Jefferson all the way until they get lynched (yet). Thus, since they were willing to speak, I had no need to vote them.
I also believe your comment on "having suspicions to push" isn't entirely honest, because if I want to offer a counterwagon I not only need suspicions but a strong enough argument that I can convince you guys.

These are the current votes :

FM-Franklin D Roosevelt (3 [L-996]):
FM-George Washington (Mayor), FM-John F Kennedy

FM-Richard Nixon (3 [L-996]):
FM-Dwight D Eisenhower, FM-Abraham Lincoln, FM-Franklin D Roosevelt

FM-Thomas Jefferson (1 [L-998]):
FM-James Monroe

====

fdr's vote is tolerable because it is self pres, self pres is fine as either alignment, though one could argue against it if you are a powerless role.

Thus to find where the scum lies in the current trains it is a matter of who is scum/opportunistic between FM-George Washington (Mayor) & FM-John F Kennedy on one side, or FM-Dwight D Eisenhower & FM-Abraham Lincoln on the other.

Most of those are consensually town read. Lincoln does feel like he's tunneling a bit, especially since he refuses to elaborate his thought on Nixon, but overall I don't see much in these trains...
Is it impossible that both are town lead ?

These are the current votes :

FM-Franklin D Roosevelt (3 [L-996]):
FM-George Washington (Mayor), FM-John F Kennedy

FM-Richard Nixon (3 [L-996]):
FM-Dwight D Eisenhower, FM-Abraham Lincoln, FM-Franklin D Roosevelt

FM-Thomas Jefferson (1 [L-998]):
FM-James Monroe

====

fdr's vote is tolerable because it is self pres, self pres is fine as either alignment, though one could argue against it if you are a powerless role.

Thus to find where the scum lies in the current trains it is a matter of who is scum/opportunistic between FM-George Washington (Mayor) & FM-John F Kennedy on one side, or FM-Dwight D Eisenhower & FM-Abraham Lincoln on the other.

Most of those are consensually town read. Lincoln does feel like he's tunneling a bit, especially since he refuses to elaborate his thought on Nixon, but overall I don't see much in these trains...
Is it impossible that both are town lead ?

[QUOTE=FM-Thomas Jefferson;969359]That's a fair opinion

My own plan was to vote FDR, he has been grilled by more people than anyone else and has done little to nothing to get himself out of it.[/QUOTE]

I cannot disagree, despite how much I dislike the progression.

Originally Posted by FM-Thomas Jefferson

That's a fair opinion

My own plan was to vote FDR, he has been grilled by more people than anyone else and has done little to nothing to get himself out of it.

I cannot disagree, despite how much I dislike the progression.

[QUOTE=FM-Thomas Jefferson;969356]He left ._.

I should be free for a little before EOD, so I will not plcae my vote yet.[/QUOTE]

Do not trust what the site tells you, it doesn't know whether I'm doing something else or not and it doesn't know whether I purposefully disconnected or simply timed out.

Originally Posted by FM-Thomas Jefferson

He left ._.

I should be free for a little before EOD, so I will not plcae my vote yet.

Do not trust what the site tells you, it doesn't know whether I'm doing something else or not and it doesn't know whether I purposefully disconnected or simply timed out.

[QUOTE=FM-Thomas Jefferson;969354]Ooo you're here, can we converse Mr. Johnson?

I'd like to hear from you in what you think is the appropriate course of action for a lynch today.[/QUOTE]

I am.

I dislike both trains but have to admit that fdr has done very little to take himself out of his current predicament, despite my best efforts. I was strongly considering voting you up before you showed up, since you are here AND engaging with me I don't see a need to anymore.

Originally Posted by FM-Thomas Jefferson

Ooo you're here, can we converse Mr. Johnson?

I'd like to hear from you in what you think is the appropriate course of action for a lynch today.

I am.

I dislike both trains but have to admit that fdr has done very little to take himself out of his current predicament, despite my best efforts. I was strongly considering voting you up before you showed up, since you are here AND engaging with me I don't see a need to anymore.

[QUOTE=FM-Richard Nixon;969350]I don't think the vote worked but all I did was copy paste it so pls help if you know how to fix thanks[/QUOTE]

You need to wrap the name in [HTML][VOTE][/VOTE][/HTML] tags, either manually of via the vote button

Originally Posted by FM-Richard Nixon

I don't think the vote worked but all I did was copy paste it so pls help if you know how to fix thanks

You need to wrap the name in

HTML Code:

[VOTE][/VOTE]

tags, either manually of via the vote button

[QUOTE=FM-Richard Nixon;969346]I don't think anybody likes my lackadaisical posting tbh[/QUOTE]

It's growing on me

Originally Posted by FM-Richard Nixon

I don't think anybody likes my lackadaisical posting tbh

It's growing on me

[QUOTE=FM-Thomas Jefferson;969285]I agree with the majority of the reads in this list (Barring Mr. Nixon and myself, I should be in the town area whereas Mr. Nixon should be null)

Other than that, What ties Mr. FDR and Madison together as scum? I know individually they appear to be scummy, but how are they tied together?[/QUOTE]

I don't want to put words in Washington's mouth but I don't think it is the intent of the list to tie both those together. I see it as a purely [U]individual[/U] list.

Originally Posted by FM-Thomas Jefferson

I agree with the majority of the reads in this list (Barring Mr. Nixon and myself, I should be in the town area whereas Mr. Nixon should be null)

Other than that, What ties Mr. FDR and Madison together as scum? I know individually they appear to be scummy, but how are they tied together?

I don't want to put words in Washington's mouth but I don't think it is the intent of the list to tie both those together. I see it as a purely individual list.

[QUOTE=FM-Abraham Lincoln;969274]I think it’s a bit silly to sort scum in categories when there are still zero hard fact to factor in. I’m gonna leave any team possibilities open until i see a redflip.[/QUOTE]

Well I agree, no one's been looking at associations recently, have they ?

Originally Posted by FM-Abraham Lincoln

I think it’s a bit silly to sort scum in categories when there are still zero hard fact to factor in. I’m gonna leave any team possibilities open until i see a redflip.

Well I agree, no one's been looking at associations recently, have they ?

[QUOTE=FM-George Washington;969270][SIZE=4]𝒯𝒪𝒲𝒩 (𝐼𝓃 𝓃𝑜 𝓅𝒶𝓇𝓉𝒾𝒸𝓊𝓁𝒶𝓇 𝑜𝓇𝒹𝑒𝓇)
[COLOR="#00FF00"]𝒜𝒷𝓇𝒶𝒽𝒶𝓂 𝐿𝒾𝓃𝒸𝑜𝓁𝓃[/COLOR] - 𝑀𝓇. 𝐿𝒾𝓃𝒸𝑜𝓁𝓃 𝒽𝒶𝓈 𝒹𝑒𝓂𝑜𝓃𝓈𝓉𝓇𝒶𝓉𝑒𝒹 𝒶𝓃 𝑜𝓇𝑔𝒶𝓃𝒾𝒸 𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓊𝑔𝒽𝓉 𝓅𝓇𝑜𝒸𝑒𝓈𝓈 𝑜𝓃 𝓈𝑒𝓋𝑒𝓇𝒶𝓁 𝑜𝒸𝒸𝒶𝓈𝒾𝑜𝓃𝓈. 𝒲𝒽𝒾𝓁𝑒 𝐼 𝒷𝑒𝓁𝒾𝑒𝓋𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓅𝓁𝒶𝒸𝑒 𝒽𝑒 𝒾𝓈 𝒸𝑜𝓂𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒻𝓇𝑜𝓂 𝒾𝓃 𝓇𝑒𝒻𝑒𝓇𝑒𝓃𝒸𝑒 𝓉𝑜 𝒩𝒾𝓍𝑜𝓃 𝒾𝓈 𝓅𝓊𝓇𝑒 𝑜𝒻 𝒽𝑒𝒶𝓇𝓉, 𝐼 𝒹𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒷𝑒𝓁𝒾𝑒𝓋𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝒾𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝒸𝑜𝓇𝓇𝑒𝒸𝓉, 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝐼 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓃𝓀 𝒽𝒾𝓈 𝒾𝓃𝒶𝒷𝒾𝓁𝒾𝓉𝓎 𝓉𝑜 𝓅𝒶𝓇𝓈𝑒 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝑒𝓍𝓅𝓁𝒶𝒾𝓃 𝒽𝒾𝓈 𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓊𝑔𝒽𝓉𝓈 𝓇𝑒𝒻𝓁𝑒𝒸𝓉𝓈 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉.

[COLOR="#00FF00"]𝒟𝓌𝒾𝑔𝒽𝓉 𝒟 𝐸𝒾𝓈𝑒𝓃𝒽𝑜𝓌𝑒𝓇[/COLOR] - 𝒯𝒽𝓇𝑜𝓊𝑔𝒽 𝓉𝓌𝑜 𝒾𝓉𝑒𝓇𝒶𝓉𝒾𝑜𝓃𝓈, 𝐸𝒾𝓈𝑒𝓃𝒽𝑜𝓌𝑒𝓇 𝒽𝒶𝓈 𝓇𝑒𝓅𝑒𝒶𝓉𝑒𝒹𝓁𝓎 𝒹𝑒𝓂𝑜𝓃𝓈𝓉𝓇𝒶𝓉𝑒𝒹 𝒶 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁𝒾𝓃𝑔𝓃𝑒𝓈𝓈 𝓉𝑜 𝓈𝑜𝓁𝓋𝑒 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝒽𝓊𝓃𝓉 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝑔𝒶𝓂𝑒. 𝐼 𝒶𝓅𝓅𝓇𝑒𝒸𝒾𝒶𝓉𝑒 𝒽𝒾𝓈 𝒶𝒸𝓉𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝓅𝑜𝓈𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓌𝒽𝑒𝓃 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝒹𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓊𝓅. 𝒯𝒽𝒾𝓈 𝒽𝒶𝓈 𝒷𝑒𝑒𝓃 𝒶 𝒹𝒾𝓈𝒶𝓅𝓅𝑜𝒾𝓃𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔𝓁𝓎 𝓈𝓁𝑜𝓌 𝒸𝑜𝓃𝑔𝓇𝑒𝓈𝓈, 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝓈𝑒𝑒𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝐸𝒾𝓈𝑒𝓃𝒽𝑜𝓌𝑒𝓇'𝓈 𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓊𝑔𝒽𝓉𝓈 𝒶𝓅𝓅𝑒𝒶𝓇 𝒶𝓈 𝒽𝑒 𝓌𝒶𝓈 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓂 𝓌𝒶𝓈 𝒹𝑒𝑒𝓅𝓁𝓎 𝓇𝑒𝒻𝓇𝑒𝓈𝒽𝒾𝓃𝑔.

[COLOR="#008000"]𝒥𝒶𝓂𝑒𝓈 𝑀𝑜𝓃𝓇𝑜𝑒[/COLOR] - 𝑀𝑜𝓃𝓇𝑜𝑒 𝒾𝓈 𝒶 𝓈𝑜𝓂𝑒𝓌𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝓌𝑜𝓇𝓇𝓎𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝑔𝑒𝓃𝓉𝓁𝑒𝓂𝒶𝓃. 𝐻𝑒 𝒽𝒶𝓈 𝒶𝓃 𝒶𝒾𝓇 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝓂𝒶𝓀𝑒𝓈 𝓂𝑒 𝒸𝒶𝓊𝓉𝒾𝑜𝓊𝓈. 𝐼 𝓌𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒷𝑒 𝓈𝓊𝓇𝓅𝓇𝒾𝓈𝑒𝒹 𝓉𝑜 𝓈𝑒𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝐼 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝓅𝓁𝒶𝒸𝑒𝒹 𝒽𝒾𝓂 𝒾𝓃𝒸𝑜𝓇𝓇𝑒𝒸𝓉𝓁𝓎. 𝐼 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒, 𝒽𝑜𝓌𝑒𝓋𝑒𝓇, 𝒻𝑜𝓊𝓃𝒹 𝓂𝓎𝓈𝑒𝓁𝒻 𝒶𝓁𝒾𝑔𝓃𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽 𝒽𝒾𝓈 𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓊𝑔𝒽𝓉𝓈 𝑜𝓃 𝓈𝑒𝓋𝑒𝓇𝒶𝓁 𝑜𝒸𝒸𝒶𝓈𝒾𝑜𝓃𝓈. 𝐼 𝓈𝒽𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝒾𝓇 𝒻𝓇𝓊𝓈𝓉𝓇𝒶𝓉𝒾𝑜𝓃𝓈 𝑜𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓁𝒶𝒸𝓀 𝑜𝒻 𝒶𝓃𝓎 𝓇𝑒𝒶𝓈𝑜𝓃𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓌𝒽𝓎 𝒩𝒾𝓍𝑜𝓃 𝒾𝓈 𝒶 𝓈𝓅𝓎. 𝒯𝒽𝑒𝓎 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝒽𝑒𝓈𝒾𝓉𝒶𝓃𝓉 𝓉𝑜 𝑜𝓊𝓉𝓇𝒾𝑔𝒽𝓉 𝒶𝓁𝒾𝑔𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓂𝓈𝑒𝓁𝓋𝑒𝓈 𝒶𝓁𝑜𝓃𝑔𝓈𝒾𝒹𝑒 𝒩𝒾𝓍𝑜𝓃, 𝒽𝑜𝓌𝑒𝓋𝑒𝓇, 𝓌𝒽𝒾𝒸𝒽 𝒾𝓈 𝓌𝑜𝓇𝓉𝒽 𝓅𝑜𝒾𝓃𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝑜𝓊𝓉. 𝐼𝒻 𝑜𝓃𝑒 𝒾𝓈 𝒶 𝓈𝓅𝓎, 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝑜𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓇 𝑜𝓃𝑒 𝓁𝒾𝓀𝑒𝓁𝓎 𝒸𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝒷𝑒 𝒶𝓈 𝓌𝑒𝓁𝓁.

[COLOR="#008000"]𝐿𝓎𝓃𝒹𝑜𝓃 𝐵 𝒥𝑜𝒽𝓃𝓈𝑜𝓃[/COLOR] - 𝐼 𝒻𝒾𝓃𝒹 𝒾𝓉 𝒹𝒾𝒻𝒻𝒾𝒸𝓊𝓁𝓉 𝓉𝑜 𝓅𝒶𝓇𝓈𝑒 𝓌𝒽𝓎 𝒥𝑜𝒽𝓃𝓈𝑜𝓃 𝒾𝓈 𝓈𝓅𝑒𝒸𝒾𝒻𝒾𝒸𝒶𝓁𝓁𝓎 𝓉𝑜𝓌𝓃 𝒷𝑒𝓎𝑜𝓃𝒹 𝓂𝑒 𝓁𝒾𝓀𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒽𝑜𝓌 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓎 𝓈𝓅𝑒𝒶𝓀. 𝐵𝓊𝓉 𝐼 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝒶 𝓈𝓉𝓇𝑜𝓃𝑔 𝒻𝑒𝑒𝓁𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓎 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝓉𝓇𝓊𝓈𝓉𝓌𝑜𝓇𝓉𝒽𝓎.

[COLOR="#008000"]𝑅𝒾𝒸𝒽𝒶𝓇𝒹 𝒩𝒾𝓍𝑜𝓃[/COLOR] - 𝐼 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝓎𝑒𝓉 𝓉𝑜 𝓈𝑒𝑒 𝒶 𝓈𝒾𝓃𝑔𝓁𝑒 𝒶𝒸𝓉𝓊𝒶𝓁 𝓅𝑜𝒾𝓃𝓉 𝒹𝑒𝓈𝒸𝓇𝒾𝒷𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓌𝒽𝓎 𝒩𝒾𝓍𝑜𝓃 𝒾𝓈 𝒶 𝓈𝓅𝓎. 𝐼 𝒸𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝒷𝑒 𝒸𝑜𝓃𝓋𝒾𝓃𝒸𝑒𝒹 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓎 𝒶𝓇𝑒. 𝐵𝓊𝓉 𝓃𝑜𝒷𝑜𝒹𝓎 𝒽𝒶𝓈 𝓂𝒶𝒹𝑒 𝒶𝓃 𝒶𝓉𝓉𝑒𝓂𝓅𝓉 𝓉𝑜 𝒹𝑜 𝓈𝑜. 𝐼 𝓅𝒶𝓇𝓉𝒾𝒸𝓊𝓁𝒶𝓇𝓁𝓎 𝓁𝒾𝓀𝑒𝒹 𝒩𝒾𝓍𝑜𝓃'𝓈 𝓅𝓁𝒶𝓎 𝒹𝒶𝓎 𝟣, 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝒹𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝓊𝓃𝒹𝑒𝓇𝓈𝓉𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝓌𝒽𝑒𝓇𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝒹𝒾𝓈𝓉𝓇𝓊𝓈𝓉 𝑒𝓂𝑒𝓇𝑔𝑒𝒹 𝒻𝓇𝑜𝓂.

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[COLOR="#008000"]𝒥𝑜𝒽𝓃 𝐹 𝒦𝑒𝓃𝓃𝑒𝒹𝓎[/COLOR] - 𝐼 𝓇𝑒𝒸𝒶𝓁𝓁 𝒽𝑒𝒶𝓇𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝑀𝓇. 𝒦𝑒𝓃𝓃𝑒𝒹𝓎 𝓌𝒶𝓈 𝓈𝓊𝒻𝒻𝑒𝓇𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒽𝑒𝒶𝓁𝓉𝒽 𝓇𝑒𝓁𝒶𝓉𝑒𝒹 𝒾𝓈𝓈𝓊𝑒𝓈, 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝒶𝓈 𝓈𝓊𝒸𝒽 𝒾𝓈 𝓉𝒶𝓀𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒶 𝓇𝑒𝓁𝒶𝓉𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝓁𝑒𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝑜𝒻 𝒶𝒷𝓈𝑒𝓃𝒸𝑒. 𝐼 𝓌𝑜𝓊𝓁𝒹 𝓁𝒾𝓀𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓂 𝓉𝑜 𝓇𝑒𝓉𝓊𝓇𝓃. 𝒪𝓊𝓉 𝑜𝒻 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓇𝑒𝓈𝒾𝒹𝑒𝓃𝓉𝓈 𝑜𝒻 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝒩𝓊𝓁𝓁 𝒸𝒶𝓉𝑒𝑔𝑜𝓇𝓎, 𝒦𝑒𝓃𝓃𝑒𝒹𝓎 𝒾𝓈 𝓂𝑜𝓈𝓉 𝓁𝒾𝓀𝑒𝓁𝓎 𝓉𝑜 𝒷𝑒 𝒜𝓂𝑒𝓇𝒾𝒸𝒶𝓃, 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝐼 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝒷𝑒 𝓁𝑜𝑜𝓀𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒻𝑜𝓇 𝒶𝓃𝓎 𝑒𝓍𝒸𝓊𝓈𝑒 𝓉𝑜 𝓂𝑜𝓋𝑒 𝒽𝒾𝓂 𝓊𝓅 𝓂𝓎 𝓁𝒾𝓈𝓉.

[COLOR="#FFFFFF"]𝒯𝒽𝑜𝓂𝒶𝓈 𝒥𝑒𝒻𝒻𝑒𝓇𝓈𝑜𝓃[/COLOR] - 𝐼 𝓌𝒶𝓈 𝓁𝒶𝓇𝑔𝑒𝓁𝓎 𝓊𝓃𝓈𝓊𝓇𝑒 𝑜𝒻 𝓌𝒽𝑒𝓇𝑒 𝓉𝑜 𝓅𝓁𝒶𝒸𝑒 𝒥𝑒𝒻𝒻𝑒𝓇𝓈𝑜𝓃. 𝐼 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓃𝓀 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝒹𝑒𝓉𝑒𝓇𝓂𝒾𝓃𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒥𝑒𝒻𝒻𝑒𝓇𝓈𝑜𝓃'𝓈 𝒶𝓁𝒾𝑔𝓃𝓂𝑒𝓃𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓃𝑒𝓍𝓉 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝐼 𝓃𝑒𝑒𝒹 𝓉𝑜 𝒹𝑜. 𝐼 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓃𝓀 𝒾𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝓁𝒾𝓀𝑒𝓁𝓎 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝒽𝑒 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝒷𝑒 𝒶 𝓈𝓅𝓎 𝒾𝓃 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓈 𝓅𝑜𝓈𝒾𝓉𝒾𝑜𝓃, 𝒷𝓊𝓉 𝐼 𝒸𝒶𝓃𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝓈𝒶𝓎 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽 𝒶𝓃𝓎 𝒸𝑒𝓇𝓉𝒶𝒾𝓃𝓉𝓎 𝓎𝑒𝓉.

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[COLOR="#FF8C00"]𝒥𝒶𝓂𝑒𝓈 𝑀𝒶𝒹𝒾𝓈𝑜𝓃[/COLOR] - 𝐼 𝓌𝒾𝓈𝒽 𝓌𝑒 𝒽𝒶𝒹 𝓂𝑜𝓇𝑒 𝓀𝓃𝑜𝓌𝓁𝑒𝒹𝑔𝑒 𝑜𝒻 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝒾𝓇 𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓊𝑔𝒽𝓉𝓈 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓊𝑔𝒽𝓉 𝓅𝓇𝑜𝒸𝑒𝓈𝓈𝑒𝓈. 𝐼 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝓎𝑒𝓉 𝓉𝑜 𝒶𝒸𝓉𝒾𝓋𝑒𝓁𝓎 𝒹𝒾𝓈𝒶𝑔𝓇𝑒𝑒 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽 𝒶𝓃𝓎𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓎 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝓈𝒶𝒾𝒹, 𝒷𝓊𝓉 𝐼 𝒹𝑜𝓃'𝓉 𝒻𝑒𝑒𝓁 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝒶𝓃𝓎𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓎 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝓈𝒶𝒾𝒹 𝒾𝓈 𝓅𝒶𝓇𝓉𝒾𝒸𝓊𝓁𝒶𝓇𝓁𝓎 𝒹𝒶𝓂𝓃𝒾𝓃𝑔. 𝒯𝒽𝑒𝓎 𝒿𝓊𝓈𝓉 𝒽𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝓎𝑒𝓉 𝓉𝑜 𝓈𝒶𝓎 𝓂𝓊𝒸𝒽. 𝐼 𝓉𝒽𝒾𝓃𝓀 𝒾𝓉 𝒾𝓈 𝓁𝒾𝓀𝑒𝓁𝓎 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓎 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝒸𝑜𝒶𝓈𝓉𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝒽𝓇𝑜𝓊𝑔𝒽 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓁𝑜𝓌 𝒶𝒸𝓉𝒾𝓋𝒾𝓉𝓎.

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TOWN (In no particular order)
[COLOR="#00FF00"]Abraham Lincoln[/COLOR] - Mr. Lincoln has demonstrated an organic thought process on several occasions. While I believe that the place he is coming from in reference to Nixon is pure of heart, I do not believe that it is correct, and I think his inability to parse and explain his thoughts reflects that.

[COLOR="#00FF00"]Dwight D Eisenhower[/COLOR] - Through two iterations, Eisenhower has repeatedly demonstrated a willingness to solve and hunt the game. I appreciate his active posting when reading up. This has been a disappointingly slow congress, and seeing Eisenhower's thoughts appear as he was having them was deeply refreshing.

[COLOR="#008000"]James Monroe[/COLOR] - Monroe is a somewhat worrying gentleman. He has an air that makes me cautious. I would not be surprised to see that I have placed him incorrectly. I have, however, found myself aligning with his thoughts on several occasions. I share their frustrations on the lack of any reasoning why Nixon is a spy. They are hesitant to outright align themselves alongside Nixon, however, which is worth pointing out. If one is a spy, the other one likely could be as well.

[COLOR="#008000"]Lyndon B Johnson[/COLOR] - I find it difficult to parse why Johnson is specifically town beyond me liking how they speak. But I have a strong feeling that they are trustworthy.

[COLOR="#008000"]Richard Nixon[/COLOR] - I have yet to see a single actual point describing why Nixon is a spy. I could be convinced that they are. But nobody has made an attempt to do so. I particularly liked Nixon's play day 1, and do not understand where the distrust emerged from.

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[COLOR="#008000"]John F Kennedy[/COLOR] - I recall hearing that Mr. Kennedy was suffering health related issues, and as such is taking a relative leave of absence. I would like them to return. Out of the residents of the Null category, Kennedy is most likely to be American, and I will be looking for any excuse to move him up my list.

[COLOR="#FFFFFF"]Thomas Jefferson[/COLOR] - I was largely unsure of where to place Jefferson. I think that determining Jefferson's alignment is the next thing that I need to do. I think it is likely that he will be a spy in this position, but I cannot say that with any certainty yet.

SCUM
[COLOR="#FF8C00"]James Madison[/COLOR] - I wish we had more knowledge of their thoughts and thought processes. I have yet to actively disagree with anything that they have said, but I don't feel that anything they have said is particularly damning. They just have yet to say much. I think it is likely that they are coasting through the low activity.

[COLOR="#FF0000"]Franklin D Roosevelt[/COLOR] - The blatant OMGUS today and attempts to shade me through attacks completely devoid of any basis has me believing that my premonition day 2 was correct.
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Overall like the list a lot, I'd still have Kennedy in the townies, and madison higher, tho.
For numerical reasons I'm guessing at least one scum is powerwolfing, if I had to guess now who that'd be I'd say Eisenhower, yourself or Lincoln in no particular order. Hopefully this will become clearer once we've got scum corpses to investigate from.
I've got the thought boggling in my head that Kennedy could be using AtE to cover for himself but that may be just me being paranoid.
Thinking back about it, add Kennedy to the front of the alleged powerwolfers.

Originally Posted by FM-George Washington

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TOWN (In no particular order)
Abraham Lincoln - Mr. Lincoln has demonstrated an organic thought process on several occasions. While I believe that the place he is coming from in reference to Nixon is pure of heart, I do not believe that it is correct, and I think his inability to parse and explain his thoughts reflects that.

Dwight D Eisenhower - Through two iterations, Eisenhower has repeatedly demonstrated a willingness to solve and hunt the game. I appreciate his active posting when reading up. This has been a disappointingly slow congress, and seeing Eisenhower's thoughts appear as he was having them was deeply refreshing.

James Monroe - Monroe is a somewhat worrying gentleman. He has an air that makes me cautious. I would not be surprised to see that I have placed him incorrectly. I have, however, found myself aligning with his thoughts on several occasions. I share their frustrations on the lack of any reasoning why Nixon is a spy. They are hesitant to outright align themselves alongside Nixon, however, which is worth pointing out. If one is a spy, the other one likely could be as well.

Lyndon B Johnson - I find it difficult to parse why Johnson is specifically town beyond me liking how they speak. But I have a strong feeling that they are trustworthy.

Richard Nixon - I have yet to see a single actual point describing why Nixon is a spy. I could be convinced that they are. But nobody has made an attempt to do so. I particularly liked Nixon's play day 1, and do not understand where the distrust emerged from.

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John F Kennedy - I recall hearing that Mr. Kennedy was suffering health related issues, and as such is taking a relative leave of absence. I would like them to return. Out of the residents of the Null category, Kennedy is most likely to be American, and I will be looking for any excuse to move him up my list.

Thomas Jefferson - I was largely unsure of where to place Jefferson. I think that determining Jefferson's alignment is the next thing that I need to do. I think it is likely that he will be a spy in this position, but I cannot say that with any certainty yet.

SCUM
James Madison - I wish we had more knowledge of their thoughts and thought processes. I have yet to actively disagree with anything that they have said, but I don't feel that anything they have said is particularly damning. They just have yet to say much. I think it is likely that they are coasting through the low activity.

Franklin D Roosevelt - The blatant OMGUS today and attempts to shade me through attacks completely devoid of any basis has me believing that my premonition day 2 was correct.

Overall like the list a lot, I'd still have Kennedy in the townies, and madison higher, tho.
For numerical reasons I'm guessing at least one scum is powerwolfing, if I had to guess now who that'd be I'd say Eisenhower, yourself or Lincoln in no particular order. Hopefully this will become clearer once we've got scum corpses to investigate from.
I've got the thought boggling in my head that Kennedy could be using AtE to cover for himself but that may be just me being paranoid.
Thinking back about it, add Kennedy to the front of the alleged powerwolfers.

[QUOTE=FM-Franklin D Roosevelt;969221]Frankly, this game is very inactive. So the actions to me speak louder than the minimal words we have.

Don't you think it is suspicious mayor is still alive?[/QUOTE]

No but seriously, what the [I]fuck[/I] is that ? That's the first time I see anyone asking to "ignore the words" and consider "actions" when we collectively have literally zero way of knowing any action outside votes unless someone dies and posts a LW !?! This sounds downright INSANE to me, are you okay, franklin ?

Anyway.
You wanna talk about actions ? Fine, let's talk about actions.
What's Washington done ? Vote you up for the rope. Twice, which was warranted because you barely existed until then. And he was on poor Wilson's arse, too.
But what have you, kind sir, done ? You've voted for Washington in RVS and have done fuck all since then, that's what your contribution amounts to.

Originally Posted by FM-Franklin D Roosevelt

Frankly, this game is very inactive. So the actions to me speak louder than the minimal words we have.

Don't you think it is suspicious mayor is still alive?

No but seriously, what the fuck is that ? That's the first time I see anyone asking to "ignore the words" and consider "actions" when we collectively have literally zero way of knowing any action outside votes unless someone dies and posts a LW !?! This sounds downright INSANE to me, are you okay, franklin ?

Anyway.
You wanna talk about actions ? Fine, let's talk about actions.
What's Washington done ? Vote you up for the rope. Twice, which was warranted because you barely existed until then. And he was on poor Wilson's arse, too.
But what have you, kind sir, done ? You've voted for Washington in RVS and have done fuck all since then, that's what your contribution amounts to.

[QUOTE=FM-Thomas Jefferson;969236]Going for me is the lazy lynch for scum currently, their entire play revolves around the N1 death of Mr. Truman.

As much as I despise OMGUS, I cannot townread those pushing hard for me when I [B]know[/B] that that's what the scum's plan is.

Liking me now Mr. Johnson? I know how much you appreciate that word.[/QUOTE]

First statement simply seems far fetched and thus, very bold.

Nice, that's good because no one is "pushing hard for [you]" yet. Or did you mean that me & Monroe are ?

As a town, no, I don't. I very much dislike lies when I'm town, and for the LAST TIME the ONLY worlds in which this is NOT a lie are :
- a world in which you've gone bonkers insane and mistake belief for knowledge ;
- a world in which you are scum.

So if you are town, I beg you to stop saying that because that seems counterproductive at best and utterly stupid at worst.

Do you have any information that encourages you to think the N1 kill really was a "framing kill" that you haven't shared yet ?
Do you have any information that encourages you to think scum is pushing you that you haven't mentioned ?

Please help me understand your position, because I have trouble understanding your POV at the moment. From either alignment, because in my eyes you'd need to be very stupid to say the shit you do as scum, but at the same time it doesn't make sense for you to say it as town either (as it doesn't help at all, quite the opposite in fact FMPOV) so I'm really kinda lost.

Originally Posted by FM-Thomas Jefferson

Going for me is the lazy lynch for scum currently, their entire play revolves around the N1 death of Mr. Truman.

As much as I despise OMGUS, I cannot townread those pushing hard for me when I know that that's what the scum's plan is.

Liking me now Mr. Johnson? I know how much you appreciate that word.

First statement simply seems far fetched and thus, very bold.

Nice, that's good because no one is "pushing hard for [you]" yet. Or did you mean that me & Monroe are ?

As a town, no, I don't. I very much dislike lies when I'm town, and for the LAST TIME the ONLY worlds in which this is NOT a lie are :
- a world in which you've gone bonkers insane and mistake belief for knowledge ;
- a world in which you are scum.

So if you are town, I beg you to stop saying that because that seems counterproductive at best and utterly stupid at worst.

Do you have any information that encourages you to think the N1 kill really was a "framing kill" that you haven't shared yet ?
Do you have any information that encourages you to think scum is pushing you that you haven't mentioned ?

Please help me understand your position, because I have trouble understanding your POV at the moment. From either alignment, because in my eyes you'd need to be very stupid to say the shit you do as scum, but at the same time it doesn't make sense for you to say it as town either (as it doesn't help at all, quite the opposite in fact FMPOV) so I'm really kinda lost.

[QUOTE=FM-Abraham Lincoln;969261]I'm not magically gonna start townreading Nixon.[/QUOTE]

Honestly I personally liked your interaction with Nixon on both sides of the argument, whereas I really disliked Nixon/Jefferson on Jefferson's side. I do wonder also what you saw that I didn't.

Originally Posted by FM-Abraham Lincoln

I'm not magically gonna start townreading Nixon.

Honestly I personally liked your interaction with Nixon on both sides of the argument, whereas I really disliked Nixon/Jefferson on Jefferson's side. I do wonder also what you saw that I didn't.

[QUOTE=FM-James Madison;969264]The only thing I'm going to say rn is that I don't think Roosevelt dies unless the other Roosevelt is town or unless he really was dangerous
With people trying to vote Roosevelt if you leave b oth of them alive ot adds to more confusion instead of govo k g people a straight shot[/QUOTE]

This is a good point, however considering the deceased Roosevelt was a doctor, I think it's safe to assume he was killed because of his profession, which IMO makes this irrelevant (killing doc >> keeping things a little bit more confused, I'd say).

Originally Posted by FM-James Madison

The only thing I'm going to say rn is that I don't think Roosevelt dies unless the other Roosevelt is town or unless he really was dangerous
With people trying to vote Roosevelt if you leave b oth of them alive ot adds to more confusion instead of govo k g people a straight shot

This is a good point, however considering the deceased Roosevelt was a doctor, I think it's safe to assume he was killed because of his profession, which IMO makes this irrelevant (killing doc >> keeping things a little bit more confused, I'd say).

[QUOTE=FM-Franklin D Roosevelt;969221]Frankly, this game is very inactive. So the actions to me speak louder than the minimal words we have.

Don't you think it is suspicious mayor is still alive?[/QUOTE]

What the actual fuck is that ?
Actions ? Like ?... What ?

What actions are you referring to exactly ?...

Originally Posted by FM-Franklin D Roosevelt

Frankly, this game is very inactive. So the actions to me speak louder than the minimal words we have.

Don't you think it is suspicious mayor is still alive?

What the actual fuck is that ?
Actions ? Like ?... What ?

What actions are you referring to exactly ?...

[QUOTE=FM-George Washington;969188][SIZE=4]𝒯𝒽𝑒 𝒹𝑒𝒶𝓉𝒽 𝑜𝒻 𝑜𝓊𝓇 𝓂𝑒𝒹𝒾𝒸𝒶𝓁 𝓅𝓇𝑜𝒻𝑒𝓈𝓈𝒾𝑜𝓃𝒶𝓁 𝒾𝓈 𝒶𝓃 𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝑜𝓂𝑒𝓃 𝓊𝓅𝑜𝓃 𝓊𝓈. 𝒲𝑒 𝒶𝓇𝑒 𝒾𝓃 𝓉𝓇𝑒𝒶𝒸𝒽𝑒𝓇𝑜𝓊𝓈 𝓌𝒶𝓉𝑒𝓇𝓈. 𝐼 𝓂𝒶𝒹𝑒 𝒶 𝑔𝓇𝒶𝓋𝑒 𝓂𝒾𝓈𝓉𝒶𝓀𝑒 𝓎𝑒𝓈𝓉𝑒𝓇𝒹𝒶𝓎 𝒷𝓎 𝒶𝓁𝓁𝑜𝓌𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝐹𝓇𝒶𝓃𝓀𝓁𝒾𝓃 𝑅𝑜𝑜𝓈𝑒𝓋𝑒𝓁𝓉 𝓉𝑜 𝑔𝑜 𝓉𝒽𝓇𝑜𝓊𝑔𝒽 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝒹𝒶𝓎 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓊𝓉 𝒶𝓃𝓎 𝒻𝓊𝓇𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓇 𝒾𝓈𝓈𝓊𝑒. 𝐼 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝓂𝒶𝓀𝑒 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝓂𝒾𝓈𝓉𝒶𝓀𝑒 𝒶𝑔𝒶𝒾𝓃.[/SIZE]

[vote]FM-Franklin D Roosevelt[/vote]

[SIZE=4]𝐼 𝒶𝑔𝓇𝑒𝑒 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽 𝒯𝒽𝑒𝑜𝒹𝑜𝓇𝑒'𝓈 𝒸𝑜𝓂𝓂𝑒𝓃𝓉𝒶𝓇𝓎 𝑜𝓃 𝐿𝒾𝓃𝒸𝑜𝓁𝓃. 𝐼 𝒸𝑜𝓃𝓈𝒾𝒹𝑒𝓇 𝒽𝒾𝓂 𝓉𝑜 𝒷𝑒 𝓈𝑜𝓁𝒾𝒹𝓁𝓎 𝒜𝓂𝑒𝓇𝒾𝒸𝒶𝓃 𝒶𝓈 𝓂𝓊𝒸𝒽 𝒶𝓈 𝐼 𝒸𝑜𝓃𝓈𝒾𝒹𝑒𝓇 𝓂𝓎𝓈𝑒𝓁𝒻 𝓉𝑜 𝒷𝑒 𝑜𝓃𝑒. 𝐼 𝒷𝑒𝓁𝒾𝑒𝓋𝑒𝒹 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝐼 𝒽𝒶𝒹 𝓂𝒶𝒹𝑒 𝓂𝓎 𝑜𝓅𝒾𝓃𝒾𝑜𝓃𝓈 𝑜𝓃 𝒩𝒾𝓍𝑜𝓃 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝒲𝒾𝓁𝓈𝑜𝓃 𝓇𝒶𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓇 𝒸𝓁𝑒𝒶𝓇- 𝒶𝓁𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓊𝑔𝒽 𝐼 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝒶𝒹𝓂𝒾𝓉 𝓉𝒽𝒶𝓉 𝓊𝓅𝑜𝓃 𝓇𝑒𝓋𝒾𝑒𝓌 𝒾𝓉 𝒶𝓅𝓅𝑒𝒶𝓇𝓈 𝐼 𝒹𝒾𝒹 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝓇𝑒𝒻𝑒𝓇𝑒𝓃𝒸𝑒 𝒥𝑒𝒻𝒻𝑒𝓇𝓈𝑜𝓃, 𝑜𝓃𝑒 𝑜𝒻 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓁𝒶𝓇𝑔𝑒𝓈𝓉 𝓆𝓊𝑒𝓈𝓉𝒾𝑜𝓃 𝓂𝒶𝓇𝓀𝓈 𝒾𝓃 𝑜𝓊𝓇 𝒸𝑜𝓂𝓅𝒶𝓃𝓎 𝒸𝓊𝓇𝓇𝑒𝓃𝓉𝓁𝓎. 𝐼 𝒶𝓂 𝑜𝓅𝑒𝓃 𝓉𝑜 𝒹𝒾𝓈𝒸𝓊𝓈𝓈𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓂𝓎 𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓊𝑔𝒽𝓉𝓈 𝑜𝓃 𝒶𝓃𝓎 𝑜𝒻 𝓉𝒽𝑒𝓈𝑒 𝑔𝑒𝓃𝓉𝓁𝑒𝓂𝑒𝓃 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝓉𝑜𝒹𝒶𝓎. 𝐵𝓊𝓉 𝒾𝓉 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝓉𝒶𝓀𝑒 𝓋𝑒𝓇𝓎 𝓈𝓉𝓇𝑜𝓃𝑔 𝒸𝑜𝓃𝓋𝒾𝓃𝒸𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝑜 𝓂𝒶𝓀𝑒 𝓂𝑒 𝓈𝓌𝒶𝓎 𝒻𝓇𝑜𝓂 𝓂𝓎 𝓋𝑜𝓉𝑒 𝑜𝓃 𝐹𝓇𝒶𝓃𝓀𝓁𝒾𝓃 𝓅𝓇𝑒𝓈𝑒𝓃𝓉𝓁𝓎.[/SIZE]

[SPOILER=Print]The death of our medical professional is an ill omen upon us. We are in treacherous waters. I made a grave mistake yesterday by allowing Franklin Roosevelt to go through the day without any further issue. I will not make that mistake again.

[vote]FM-Franklin D Roosevelt[/vote]

I agree with Theodore's commentary on Lincoln. I consider him to be solidly American as much as I consider myself to be one. I believed that I had made my opinions on Nixon and Wilson rather clear- although I will admit that upon review it appears I did not reference Jefferson, one of the largest question marks in our company currently. I am open to discussing my thoughts on any of these gentlemen with you today. But it will take very strong convincing to make me sway from my vote on Franklin presently.[/SPOILER][/QUOTE]

Quite frankly, fdr probably deserves the gallows, but nonetheless that spot is in so much of a dubious spot that I'd advocate for looking outside of this obviously murky spot.

Originally Posted by FM-George Washington

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-vote FM-Franklin D Roosevelt

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Spoiler : Print :

The death of our medical professional is an ill omen upon us. We are in treacherous waters. I made a grave mistake yesterday by allowing Franklin Roosevelt to go through the day without any further issue. I will not make that mistake again.

-vote FM-Franklin D Roosevelt

I agree with Theodore's commentary on Lincoln. I consider him to be solidly American as much as I consider myself to be one. I believed that I had made my opinions on Nixon and Wilson rather clear- although I will admit that upon review it appears I did not reference Jefferson, one of the largest question marks in our company currently. I am open to discussing my thoughts on any of these gentlemen with you today. But it will take very strong convincing to make me sway from my vote on Franklin presently.

Quite frankly, fdr probably deserves the gallows, but nonetheless that spot is in so much of a dubious spot that I'd advocate for looking outside of this obviously murky spot.

[QUOTE=FM-Franklin D Roosevelt;969189]Frankly it is pretty suspicious you are even still alive. I mean the doctor wasn't even on you last night.

Nobody else finds it strange the mayor is still alive?[/QUOTE]

You have been avoiding both mine & washington's comments & requests for more yesterday and now all you can muster is some OMGSUS back flinglin' ?

Originally Posted by FM-Franklin D Roosevelt

Frankly it is pretty suspicious you are even still alive. I mean the doctor wasn't even on you last night.

Nobody else finds it strange the mayor is still alive?

You have been avoiding both mine & washington's comments & requests for more yesterday and now all you can muster is some OMGSUS back flinglin' ?

Guessing this is now a woodrom flip waiting room, uh

Guessing this is now a woodrom flip waiting room, uh

Why is this deader than dead

Why is this deader than dead

[QUOTE=FM-John F Kennedy;969173]I'm currently battling food poisoning[/QUOTE]

Well that sucks... Good luck

Originally Posted by FM-John F Kennedy

I'm currently battling food poisoning

Well that sucks... Good luck

[QUOTE=FM-James Monroe;969172]Woodrow... Sort of feels like he could be mislynch bait? Just feels too easy.[/QUOTE]

Meh I dunno, the fact that he never came back for more is rough tbh...

Originally Posted by FM-James Monroe

Woodrow... Sort of feels like he could be mislynch bait? Just feels too easy.

Meh I dunno, the fact that he never came back for more is rough tbh...

[QUOTE=FM-Franklin D Roosevelt;969168]To me kind sir, you appear naked, but not unafraid.[/QUOTE]

Why do you say nixon is afraid ? I would greatly appreciate it if you went into a little detail there. Or anywhere, actually.

Unafraid you certainly seem to be but I'm pretty sure you should reconsider it, if only a little.

Originally Posted by FM-Franklin D Roosevelt

To me kind sir, you appear naked, but not unafraid.

Why do you say nixon is afraid ? I would greatly appreciate it if you went into a little detail there. Or anywhere, actually.

Unafraid you certainly seem to be but I'm pretty sure you should reconsider it, if only a little.

Nixon/Abraham lincoln feels more like T/T to me than Nixon/Jefferson, what do y'all think ?

Nixon/Abraham lincoln feels more like T/T to me than Nixon/Jefferson, what do y'all think ?

Woodrow feels pressured enough as is, so I'll insist in that direction because I now feel fine about nixon. For now... Maybe he'll turn around and run backwards.

[VOTE]FM-Franklin D Roosevelt[/VOTE]

Woodrow feels pressured enough as is, so I'll insist in that direction because I now feel fine about nixon. For now... Maybe he'll turn around and run backwards.

-vote FM-Franklin D Roosevelt

[QUOTE=FM-Franklin D Roosevelt;969154]I will consider a vote here for now, however we shall reconvene this discussion on the morrow.

[vote]FM-Richard Nixon[/vote][/QUOTE]

Interesting. Not only is this underwhelming, but this is very countercurrent to the thread IMO...

Originally Posted by FM-Franklin D Roosevelt

I will consider a vote here for now, however we shall reconvene this discussion on the morrow.

-vote FM-Richard Nixon

Interesting. Not only is this underwhelming, but this is very countercurrent to the thread IMO...

[QUOTE=FM-Abraham Lincoln;969117]The reason i don't like Wilson's quotes is because of the absolutist statements that he does nothing with.
Instead of reasoning that we might have an active scum (which we probably do tbh) he just says we have a lot of active scum and they are trying to mislim him. Which felt really AtE and LAMIST heavy.[/QUOTE]

Now to be fair he did mention that the game was very inactive in general, but I agree that it would be far better if the thought process was laid out explicitly.

Originally Posted by FM-Abraham Lincoln

The reason i don't like Wilson's quotes is because of the absolutist statements that he does nothing with.
Instead of reasoning that we might have an active scum (which we probably do tbh) he just says we have a lot of active scum and they are trying to mislim him. Which felt really AtE and LAMIST heavy.

Now to be fair he did mention that the game was very inactive in general, but I agree that it would be far better if the thought process was laid out explicitly.

Now to be honest I don't actually think much of it, but it does strike me as odd to say that you "know".
What we actually know is that the only way to know why scum did it is being one, this you certainly didn't miss and yet you chose to say that you did know, regardless. I do find that odd.

Now to be honest I don't actually think much of it, but it does strike me as odd to say that you "know".
What we actually know is that the only way to know why scum did it is being one, this you certainly didn't miss and yet you chose to say that you did know, regardless. I do find that odd.

[QUOTE=FM-Thomas Jefferson;969143]With all due respect Mr. Nixon, there is no need to personally attack another gentleman in this forum.

I also find it funny seeing as I know that the scum has tried to frame me by killing Mr. Truman that you would be so bold as to push me early into the day while that though is fresh in everyones minds.[/QUOTE]

Oh you [B]know[/B] ? That's an interesting piece of information.

Originally Posted by FM-Thomas Jefferson

With all due respect Mr. Nixon, there is no need to personally attack another gentleman in this forum.

I also find it funny seeing as I know that the scum has tried to frame me by killing Mr. Truman that you would be so bold as to push me early into the day while that though is fresh in everyones minds.

Oh you know ? That's an interesting piece of information.

At #534 atm
Starting to feel Jefferson/Nixon is S/T and I'm leaning towards Nixon being town.

At #534 atm
Starting to feel Jefferson/Nixon is S/T and I'm leaning towards Nixon being town.