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[QUOTE=yzb25;914206]sorry if this is broadening the intended topic too much, but I wanna mention that [I]"buddying"[/I] is an extremely vague term that can be used for pretty much any friendly, positive or even decent interaction between two people. [I]"pocketing"[/I] potentially includes literally every single usage of [I]"buddying"[/I], yet somehow when someone says the latter it sounds like they're saying something more meaningful because they're also insinuating some kind of scum intent, when in practice they're objectively saying less. Isn't it so weird how your dumb, easily-manipulated town brain works? XD. Or maybe this only works on me, idk.[/QUOTE]
This is precisely the sort of thing I meant in the 2nd question in the OP. :blink1:

Originally Posted by yzb25

sorry if this is broadening the intended topic too much, but I wanna mention that "buddying" is an extremely vague term that can be used for pretty much any friendly, positive or even decent interaction between two people. "pocketing" potentially includes literally every single usage of "buddying", yet somehow when someone says the latter it sounds like they're saying something more meaningful because they're also insinuating some kind of scum intent, when in practice they're objectively saying less. Isn't it so weird how your dumb, easily-manipulated town brain works? XD. Or maybe this only works on me, idk.

This is precisely the sort of thing I meant in the 2nd question in the OP.

[QUOTE=yzb25;914205]When scums do an ISO their commentary on every post is often just [I]"[COLOR="#FF8C00"][buzzword][/COLOR]? Or maybe even [COLOR="#FF0000"][buzzword][/COLOR]?"[/I] over and over and somehow get away with it because every town is assigning their own nuanced interpretation of what the scum meant LOL.[/QUOTE]
Ambiguity as a scum tactic :thinking:
Never thought of that.

Nobody can read you when you yourself can't read you. [IMG]https://blog.101domain.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/smart-thinking.jpg[/IMG]

Originally Posted by yzb25

When scums do an ISO their commentary on every post is often just "[buzzword]? Or maybe even [buzzword]?" over and over and somehow get away with it because every town is assigning their own nuanced interpretation of what the scum meant LOL.

Ambiguity as a scum tactic
Never thought of that.

Nobody can read you when you yourself can't read you.

[QUOTE=Grayswandir;914201]Hedging might refer to the shape.[/QUOTE]Friend, sometimes you have really random thoughts in your head.

Originally Posted by Grayswandir

Hedging might refer to the shape.

Friend, sometimes you have really random thoughts in your head.

I just remembered that [MENTION=10617]Helz[/MENTION] had Flailing explained in his [URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/45881-Helz-guide-to-improving-as-a-player-Part-2-Fundamentals-of-Scum-Hunting"]Guide[/URL].

What I find fascinating is that he, [MENTION=29377]Marshmallow Marshall[/MENTION] and [MENTION=21928]MartinGG99[/MENTION] all gave slightly different answers regarding Flailing.
MM's is more similar to the one in the Wiki page.
Martin's is more similar to the one in Helz's Guide.

This leads me to believe that [I]using[/I] the word Flailing is actually counter productive in an actual game? As in, It is better in every possible aspect to just say what you mean instead of relying that others would know what it is. Assuming you have the time, of course.
That would be the case for all such terms wouldn't it? Describing in detail just has more power to it than using some term.

I like Martin's explanation of Waffling. It combines the NA and the British meanings, both in one.

There's probably a consensus regarding fence-sitting here.

Hedging though. For MM hedging is synonym to his meaning of Flailing, while for Martin hedging is synonym for fence-sitting. What's worse, the word doesn't exist in Wiki pages.
Hedging bad word.

I just remembered that @Helz had Flailing explained in his Guide.

What I find fascinating is that he, @Marshmallow Marshall and @MartinGG99 all gave slightly different answers regarding Flailing.
MM's is more similar to the one in the Wiki page.
Martin's is more similar to the one in Helz's Guide.

This leads me to believe that using the word Flailing is actually counter productive in an actual game? As in, It is better in every possible aspect to just say what you mean instead of relying that others would know what it is. Assuming you have the time, of course.
That would be the case for all such terms wouldn't it? Describing in detail just has more power to it than using some term.

I like Martin's explanation of Waffling. It combines the NA and the British meanings, both in one.

There's probably a consensus regarding fence-sitting here.

Hedging though. For MM hedging is synonym to his meaning of Flailing, while for Martin hedging is synonym for fence-sitting. What's worse, the word doesn't exist in Wiki pages.
Hedging bad word.

[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;914090]Fencesitting: not clearly picking a stance on your reads, often associated with fearing to place votes.

Waffling: Huh? :D I'd assume it's the same as fluffing (posting a lot of stuff that looks useful but that isn't)

Hedging and flailing are pretty similar, although flailing often has a "shit cases" dimension to it. Basically flip-flopping on multiple people, if I'm not mistaken. Those terms are pretty large, though, and are "buzzwords", so there's a reason you're unsure about their meaning.[/QUOTE]
[S]You forgot [URL="https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Flailing"]Flailing[/URL]. The only word in the list that Google doesn't know and you have to check a FM Wiki.[/s]


Fun part about Waffling is that it's a normal English expression apparently, except it has completely different meaning in NA than in British.[QUOTE]speak or write at length in a vague or trivial manner.[/QUOTE][QUOTE][COLOR="#00FF00"]fail to make up one's mind[/COLOR].[/QUOTE]

Fence sitter is a normal English expression too apparently: [QUOTE][COLOR="#00FF00"]a person who remains neutral or uncommitted on an issue.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

[URL="https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/19178-Mafia-Universe-Terminology?p=2754437&viewfull=1#post2754437"]Hedging[/URL] though, now that's technically a term for a "risk management strategy" and the fun part about that is that it's in neither Wiki. But in the above link it reads: [QUOTE][COLOR="#00FF00"]When a player does not commit to a stance and stays on the fence regarding a topic, [/COLOR]usually the alignment of a player.[/QUOTE]


[B]Apart from Flailing, the word that I don't understand even after reading about it.
[COLOR="#00FF00"]The other 3 are all the exact same? [/COLOR][/B]

Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Fencesitting: not clearly picking a stance on your reads, often associated with fearing to place votes.

Waffling: Huh? I'd assume it's the same as fluffing (posting a lot of stuff that looks useful but that isn't)

Hedging and flailing are pretty similar, although flailing often has a "shit cases" dimension to it. Basically flip-flopping on multiple people, if I'm not mistaken. Those terms are pretty large, though, and are "buzzwords", so there's a reason you're unsure about their meaning.

You forgot Flailing. The only word in the list that Google doesn't know and you have to check a FM Wiki.


Fun part about Waffling is that it's a normal English expression apparently, except it has completely different meaning in NA than in British.

speak or write at length in a vague or trivial manner.

fail to make up one's mind.

Fence sitter is a normal English expression too apparently:

a person who remains neutral or uncommitted on an issue.

Hedging though, now that's technically a term for a "risk management strategy" and the fun part about that is that it's in neither Wiki. But in the above link it reads:

When a player does not commit to a stance and stays on the fence regarding a topic, usually the alignment of a player.

Apart from Flailing, the word that I don't understand even after reading about it.
The other 3 are all the exact same?

[CENTER][SIZE=3][B][U]What are the differences?[/U][/B][/SIZE][/CENTER]

And are there other?

What are the differences?

And are there other?