We were put at L-3 before we even got on. JTL was put at L-1 1h30 into the day. Take a chill pill and fasten your seatbelts, guys...
[vote]deathworlds[/vote]
This dude has strictly made setup spec contributions 3 days into the game.
His comments that were actually player related were always one liners.
[SPOILER=Examples]
[QUOTE=deathworlds;639511]Yuki your shitposts are annoying me.
[vote]Yukitaka Oni[/vote][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=deathworlds;639528]I've just haven't seen Yuki shitpost so much before, and the usual trademark "v)x.o)> v(o.o(v" crap is nowhere to be seen.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=deathworlds;639957]I'll vote for drtz before I leave for school. I agree with the majority of points made against him. Especially the point regarding experiance. Town has very little to gain by claiming newb.
Claim your role now.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=deathworlds;639960]I wanted a different claim, my vote will be on him until I return. That is, unless day hasn't ended by then.
[vote]drizzt[/vote][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=deathworlds;640208]Voting JealousTL because he seemed very eager to disprove the existence of serial killer.
Lying pretty low there, not prodding people or scum hunting.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=deathworlds;640572]Your arguments are deconstructing. I've been pushing on you for the past 16 hours.[/QUOTE]
No, you haven't pushed at all.
[QUOTE=deathworlds;640579]Think I might do a post by post analysis of Yuki.[/QUOTE]
Not going to be of any use. You know it's shitpost after shitpost.
[QUOTE=deathworlds;640731]<--- was the exception, Mesk would be on the chopping block after JealousTL or Eggy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=deathworlds;640783]You're being very opportunistic.[/QUOTE]
[/spoiler]
Also, he's been 'pushing' solely after the lowest hanging fruits, Yuki and Drizzt. He has not expressed his opinion on anybody else other than JTL and Unknown and failed to provide reads even though I prodded him to give one <5 times.
This slot [B]never[/B] scum-hunted, yet it has posted a total of 100 times at the time of making this post. His biggest non setup-spec post is this one [QUOTE=deathworlds;639427]Fluff at a first glance, but it could be potential crumbing/foreshadowing.
Complete fluff
Is questioning the motive behind not lynching day 1, perfectly normal.
attempting to argue with newb logic. Trying to correct newb behavior, normal.
Once again, questioning newb logic.
So far unknown has little to contribute, that being said it is really early in game.
I don't feel strong either way about his opener, but I'll be keeping an eye on him.[/QUOTE]
, and it has very little substance.
More importantly, it has no follow-up.
We were put at L-3 before we even got on. JTL was put at L-1 1h30 into the day. Take a chill pill and fasten your seatbelts, guys...
-vote deathworlds
This dude has strictly made setup spec contributions 3 days into the game.
His comments that were actually player related were always one liners.
Spoiler : Examples :
Originally Posted by deathworlds
Yuki your shitposts are annoying me.
-vote Yukitaka Oni
Originally Posted by deathworlds
I've just haven't seen Yuki shitpost so much before, and the usual trademark "v)x.o)> v(o.o(v" crap is nowhere to be seen.
Originally Posted by deathworlds
I'll vote for drtz before I leave for school. I agree with the majority of points made against him. Especially the point regarding experiance. Town has very little to gain by claiming newb.
Claim your role now.
Originally Posted by deathworlds
I wanted a different claim, my vote will be on him until I return. That is, unless day hasn't ended by then.
-vote drizzt
Originally Posted by deathworlds
Voting JealousTL because he seemed very eager to disprove the existence of serial killer.
-vote JealousTL
Originally Posted by deathworlds
-vote Yukitaka Oni
Lying pretty low there, not prodding people or scum hunting.
Originally Posted by deathworlds
Your arguments are deconstructing. I've been pushing on you for the past 16 hours.
No, you haven't pushed at all.
Originally Posted by deathworlds
Think I might do a post by post analysis of Yuki.
Not going to be of any use. You know it's shitpost after shitpost.
Originally Posted by deathworlds
<--- was the exception, Mesk would be on the chopping block after JealousTL or Eggy.
Originally Posted by deathworlds
You're being very opportunistic.
Also, he's been 'pushing' solely after the lowest hanging fruits, Yuki and Drizzt. He has not expressed his opinion on anybody else other than JTL and Unknown and failed to provide reads even though I prodded him to give one <5 times.
This slot never scum-hunted, yet it has posted a total of 100 times at the time of making this post. His biggest non setup-spec post is this one
Originally Posted by deathworlds
Fluff at a first glance, but it could be potential crumbing/foreshadowing.
Complete fluff
Is questioning the motive behind not lynching day 1, perfectly normal.
attempting to argue with newb logic. Trying to correct newb behavior, normal.
Once again, questioning newb logic.
So far unknown has little to contribute, that being said it is really early in game.
I don't feel strong either way about his opener, but I'll be keeping an eye on him.
[QUOTE=Unknown1234;640732]I think my last will is/was convincing. You might have listened to me more knowing my position against Jealous/Stereo was a town one.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#AFEEEE"]Hey Unknown, I probably sheeped my partner too hard yesterday. Can you redirect me to your will? Where can I find it?[/COLOR]
Originally Posted by Unknown1234
I think my last will is/was convincing. You might have listened to me more knowing my position against Jealous/Stereo was a town one.
Hey Unknown, I probably sheeped my partner too hard yesterday. Can you redirect me to your will? Where can I find it?
[QUOTE=JealousTL;640798]I wouldn't say I was entirely reluctant. I feel a person have more motivation to sway their accuser if the accuser's vote is not yet cast. Also, it helps me stay objective, because I can argue more empirically and not with the mindset of "this is my read, this is my vote, and I will defend it." In other words, trying to prevent myself from tunneling and giving people an opportunity to present a counter-case or otherwise convince me. However, Unknown was my strongest scum read, and Yuki was my strongest neutral/scum-read, which turned out to be just Yuki being Yuki, just a slightly different version of Yuki, one that was equally if not more Yuki than the original Yuki given the flip. If that makes sense. The fact that I did not vote Unknown and that I pushed Yuki, resulted in Yuki being confirmed town AND they didn't get NK, which is great for town, IMO.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#AFEEEE"]I have no idea what I just read. First off, that's too many Yuki's in the same sentence.
Second, Yukitaka being confirmed mayor was done with or without your help, and that was after the fact. You had nothing to do with it.
Third, biggest point here is that [B]you're saying you don't want to push people?[/B]
^Is this correct?[/COLOR]
Originally Posted by JealousTL
I wouldn't say I was entirely reluctant. I feel a person have more motivation to sway their accuser if the accuser's vote is not yet cast. Also, it helps me stay objective, because I can argue more empirically and not with the mindset of "this is my read, this is my vote, and I will defend it." In other words, trying to prevent myself from tunneling and giving people an opportunity to present a counter-case or otherwise convince me. However, Unknown was my strongest scum read, and Yuki was my strongest neutral/scum-read, which turned out to be just Yuki being Yuki, just a slightly different version of Yuki, one that was equally if not more Yuki than the original Yuki given the flip. If that makes sense. The fact that I did not vote Unknown and that I pushed Yuki, resulted in Yuki being confirmed town AND they didn't get NK, which is great for town, IMO.
I have no idea what I just read. First off, that's too many Yuki's in the same sentence.
Second, Yukitaka being confirmed mayor was done with or without your help, and that was after the fact. You had nothing to do with it.
Third, biggest point here is that you're saying you don't want to push people?
^Is this correct?
[QUOTE=JealousTL;640791]Sorry, going to call bullshit on this. You say that 1. I am too friendly and don't push anyone, and that makes me neutral, 2. I "excluded" SK from my analysis wall post, 3. That I was townreading you until I made an "opportunistic" flip, which are ALL points I've refuted, with evidence where applicable and logic otherwise. Anyone here is free to check up my post history for that.
Instead of responding, you oh-so-conveniently decide that "you don't feel like refuting the same stuff" when this is in fact was our first confrontation on all of the above subjects. You made your argument, I made a rebuttal, and now you "don't feel like refuting the same stuff." This is physically impossible, since you never refuted it to begin with. That's some solid dodging you're doing. Then, you have the audacity to restating one of your arguments all over again, while ignoring the other facts on which you've been proven wrong. THAT is truly rotten behavior - seeking to mislead others about the nature of the passage of events by simply ignoring things. If you really are town, please act like it.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#AFEEEE"]I can't speak for Unknown, but there are my thoughts—
You aren't exactly too friendly, but you didn't actually push anyone. Which is to be expected, you just replaced in. The wall post you made did lack a lot in terms of stances. I think my partner said something to this effect. [B]Are pre-flip associations something you do often on the TL forums?[/B]
I really really hate it when players just say to check your post history. Why don't you check it for us?
You don't seem to be reading Unknown as scum(?) Let's just find out. [B] Do you think Unknown is town or scum right now? [/B][/COLOR]
Originally Posted by JealousTL
Sorry, going to call bullshit on this. You say that 1. I am too friendly and don't push anyone, and that makes me neutral, 2. I "excluded" SK from my analysis wall post, 3. That I was townreading you until I made an "opportunistic" flip, which are ALL points I've refuted, with evidence where applicable and logic otherwise. Anyone here is free to check up my post history for that.
Instead of responding, you oh-so-conveniently decide that "you don't feel like refuting the same stuff" when this is in fact was our first confrontation on all of the above subjects. You made your argument, I made a rebuttal, and now you "don't feel like refuting the same stuff." This is physically impossible, since you never refuted it to begin with. That's some solid dodging you're doing. Then, you have the audacity to restating one of your arguments all over again, while ignoring the other facts on which you've been proven wrong. THAT is truly rotten behavior - seeking to mislead others about the nature of the passage of events by simply ignoring things. If you really are town, please act like it.
I can't speak for Unknown, but there are my thoughts—
You aren't exactly too friendly, but you didn't actually push anyone. Which is to be expected, you just replaced in. The wall post you made did lack a lot in terms of stances. I think my partner said something to this effect. Are pre-flip associations something you do often on the TL forums?
I really really hate it when players just say to check your post history. Why don't you check it for us?
You don't seem to be reading Unknown as scum(?) Let's just find out. Do you think Unknown is town or scum right now?
[QUOTE=Unknown1234;640747]My case was completely valid, nobody read my points, however except SL who has ignored most of what I've said to just lynch me off since he thought i was scum[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#AFEEEE"]Never Unlucky does that every game. Forgive him. He did the same to me as well.[/COLOR]
Originally Posted by Unknown1234
My case was completely valid, nobody read my points, however except SL who has ignored most of what I've said to just lynch me off since he thought i was scum
Never Unlucky does that every game. Forgive him. He did the same to me as well.
[QUOTE=MattZed;640722]Stereo's only vote yesterday. Gonna guess Unknown isn't Mafia.
From a quick look at their interactions, I can buy JTL as a partner to Stereo.
[vote]JealousTL[/vote][/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#AFEEEE"]My scum read on Unknown is weakening every post he makes. Either he just knows how to convince me I that he is town every single game, or that I'm just that stupid.
He never did give a counter-response to my day one case, but he's been changing his behavior to not match it. Either he found more time? Is trying to weasel me out of reading him badly?
Since its been pretty progressive, I'll just say he's kinda town right now.
I wonder if I should bring my gut out.[/COLOR]
Originally Posted by MattZed
Stereo's only vote yesterday. Gonna guess Unknown isn't Mafia.
From a quick look at their interactions, I can buy JTL as a partner to Stereo.
-vote JealousTL
My scum read on Unknown is weakening every post he makes. Either he just knows how to convince me I that he is town every single game, or that I'm just that stupid.
He never did give a counter-response to my day one case, but he's been changing his behavior to not match it. Either he found more time? Is trying to weasel me out of reading him badly?
Since its been pretty progressive, I'll just say he's kinda town right now.
[COLOR="#AFEEEE"]Should probably not be using host meta on RLVG.[/COLOR]
[QUOTE]In other news, given that we're almost certain Mafia killed Mesk, (only other possibility is that there's a witch and a vig who was witched N1 but didn't feel like then revealing himself) why? Mafia killed Calix N1 and thus seemed to be setting up a pattern of going for the more active and experienced players. But then... Mesk?
This gives me a question: Why is SecondLynch, who has more experienced players and was more active than Mesk, alive? What Mafia wouldn't murder the shit out of them?
Possibilities:
1. SecondLynch is the last mafia
2. SL was in fact were targeted, and there is some bus driving going around. (Or I suppose they were bold enough to target mayor and mayor got swapped)
3. Mafia knew Mesk was a TPR, either with their unrevealed investigative or from some softclaim I haven't picked up on.
4. Mafia somehow considered her a bigger threat.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#AFEEEE"]I don't think there is that pattern that you think of. With a Calix and a Mesk vote, mafia may have been going for players that were pushing them to help themselves not get lynched.
I'm also not that experienced :D
3 and 4 are the same and are probably true[/COLOR]
Originally Posted by MattZed
I don't even.
Should probably not be using host meta on RLVG.
In other news, given that we're almost certain Mafia killed Mesk, (only other possibility is that there's a witch and a vig who was witched N1 but didn't feel like then revealing himself) why? Mafia killed Calix N1 and thus seemed to be setting up a pattern of going for the more active and experienced players. But then... Mesk?
This gives me a question: Why is SecondLynch, who has more experienced players and was more active than Mesk, alive? What Mafia wouldn't murder the shit out of them?
Possibilities:
1. SecondLynch is the last mafia
2. SL was in fact were targeted, and there is some bus driving going around. (Or I suppose they were bold enough to target mayor and mayor got swapped)
3. Mafia knew Mesk was a TPR, either with their unrevealed investigative or from some softclaim I haven't picked up on.
4. Mafia somehow considered her a bigger threat.
I don't think there is that pattern that you think of. With a Calix and a Mesk vote, mafia may have been going for players that were pushing them to help themselves not get lynched.
I'm also not that experienced
[QUOTE=JealousTL;640746]I made a case on you, a much better case than anyone has made on anyone to date. Your case on me was wrought with holes. I pointed them out. You have responded in detail to neither my case on you nor my showing the holes in your case. Please step out of the tunnel for a moment.
I am surprised by Stereo's flip, and also question why SK (if that is the case, which seems to be the overwhelming possibility) would target him. I will think on that later. Perhaps there is indeed a busdriver.
I still find it hard to believe that Unknown1234 vs. SL was TvT or SvS; it makes sense that Unknown1234 didn't get NK because he was just 1 vote shy of being lynched, but SL remaining alive does not make much sense to me. I'm going to turn around my read on Unknown vs. SL due to this. I will have to re-examine SL's D2 play, but for now I will park here.
[vote]SecondLynch[/vote]
Working off PoE, if SL is the scum, then it is impossible for MattZed to be neutral. That's all I have for now, lots of work to do. I will add more tomorrow.[/QUOTE]
Yesterday you were saying that Unknown vs. SL was TvS with unknown being scum or TvT. Now it doesn't make sense for it to be TvT? Explain.
Also, yesterday you said that Quick vs. SL seemed too long of an interaction to be SvS. What made you change your mind?
Why doesn't it make sense for us to be alive but it makes sense for MattZed, deathworlds, you and Yuki to be alive?
Originally Posted by JealousTL
I made a case on you, a much better case than anyone has made on anyone to date. Your case on me was wrought with holes. I pointed them out. You have responded in detail to neither my case on you nor my showing the holes in your case. Please step out of the tunnel for a moment.
I am surprised by Stereo's flip, and also question why SK (if that is the case, which seems to be the overwhelming possibility) would target him. I will think on that later. Perhaps there is indeed a busdriver.
I still find it hard to believe that Unknown1234 vs. SL was TvT or SvS; it makes sense that Unknown1234 didn't get NK because he was just 1 vote shy of being lynched, but SL remaining alive does not make much sense to me. I'm going to turn around my read on Unknown vs. SL due to this. I will have to re-examine SL's D2 play, but for now I will park here.
-vote SecondLynch
Working off PoE, if SL is the scum, then it is impossible for MattZed to be neutral. That's all I have for now, lots of work to do. I will add more tomorrow.
Yesterday you were saying that Unknown vs. SL was TvS with unknown being scum or TvT. Now it doesn't make sense for it to be TvT? Explain.
Also, yesterday you said that Quick vs. SL seemed too long of an interaction to be SvS. What made you change your mind?
Why doesn't it make sense for us to be alive but it makes sense for MattZed, deathworlds, you and Yuki to be alive?
[QUOTE=Eggy;640760]everyone get your votes off JT he is not SK and I really dont see him being last scum. Mesk roleblocked him n1 she soft claimed it in post 673 679 by saying she fucked him and decided he is not SK. Her being escort meaning her fucking him was roleblocking him. I also knew she was escort because she soft claimed when DW asked if anyone was roleblocked and she said no.[/QUOTE]
She soft-claimed waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay earlier. Right from the start.
[QUOTE=Mesk514;639337]Oh Jesus this is Calix.
Ugh, just read between the line -.-
I dont see how stating that I now demand to get paid when I'm ripped on is seen as being defensive.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mesk514;639333]Jesus, too many accounts with names that ive never seen.
Uh... me? Defensive? Nah l not even. Just know there is always a price to pay. You wanna rip on me, fine. But this time I'm charging[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mesk514;640637]anyone who can read can pretty much figure out I'm confirmed.[/QUOTE]
Originally Posted by Eggy
everyone get your votes off JT he is not SK and I really dont see him being last scum. Mesk roleblocked him n1 she soft claimed it in post 673 679 by saying she fucked him and decided he is not SK. Her being escort meaning her fucking him was roleblocking him. I also knew she was escort because she soft claimed when DW asked if anyone was roleblocked and she said no.
She soft-claimed waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaay earlier. Right from the start.
Originally Posted by Mesk514
Oh Jesus this is Calix.
Ugh, just read between the line -.-
I dont see how stating that I now demand to get paid when I'm ripped on is seen as being defensive.
Originally Posted by Mesk514
Jesus, too many accounts with names that ive never seen.
Uh... me? Defensive? Nah l not even. Just know there is always a price to pay. You wanna rip on me, fine. But this time I'm charging
Originally Posted by Mesk514
anyone who can read can pretty much figure out I'm confirmed.
[QUOTE=deathworlds;640777][COLOR="#00FF00"]If two different role-blockers target a serial killer, do one or both of them die? If only one dies, which one does?[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SecondLynch;640289]"I have done both" (Proving my point) -- Calls it a shade-throw.
Legit.
[MENTION=6656]RLVG[/MENTION] -- [COLOR="#00FF00"]If multiple escorts/consorts role-block the serial killer, will they all die?[/COLOR]
fixed[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RLVG;640456]Yes.
Yes.
No.[/QUOTE]
I have already asked this question. 400 posts before. Mesk would be a gonner if Jealous was Le SK.
Originally Posted by deathworlds
If two different role-blockers target a serial killer, do one or both of them die? If only one dies, which one does?
Originally Posted by SecondLynch
"I have done both" (Proving my point) -- Calls it a shade-throw.
Legit.
@RLVG
-- If multiple escorts/consorts role-block the serial killer, will they all die?
fixed
Originally Posted by RLVG
Yes.
Yes.
No.
I have already asked this question. 400 posts before. Mesk would be a gonner if Jealous was Le SK.
[QUOTE=Eggy;640530]i find it strange that DW is moving his vote around to basically every other than unknown to me seems like hes trying to save his scum partner by drawing attention away. Also I dont remember him saying that was really a strong defense of unknown so I dont know why he wont vote him. unknown needs more votes people @everyone[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#AFEEEE"]You bring up a good point. To me, it looks like not voting someone who town reads you to be done as all alignments; however, in the absence of direct interactions between the two as well as not giving reads/taking a stance on anyone but yukitaka— I find this poor towards deathworlds.[/COLOR]
[QUOTE=Eggy;640542]you establish trust through out the game you need to have faith or else you will be lynching blindly the whole point of tbe game is to be able to tell whos lying[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#AFEEEE"]FAITH BEFORE FEAR[/COLOR]
Originally Posted by Eggy
i find it strange that DW is moving his vote around to basically every other than unknown to me seems like hes trying to save his scum partner by drawing attention away. Also I dont remember him saying that was really a strong defense of unknown so I dont know why he wont vote him. unknown needs more votes people @everyone
You bring up a good point. To me, it looks like not voting someone who town reads you to be done as all alignments; however, in the absence of direct interactions between the two as well as not giving reads/taking a stance on anyone but yukitaka— I find this poor towards deathworlds.
Originally Posted by Eggy
you establish trust through out the game you need to have faith or else you will be lynching blindly the whole point of tbe game is to be able to tell whos lying
[QUOTE=Stereo;640395]Suddenly, to the recipient, I am less town than when I hadn't voted for them.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#AFEEEE"]Did you read my [URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/37920-S-FM-211-Three-Foes-and-a-Stranger?p=639772&viewfull=1#post639750"]day one case[/URL] on Unknown? Take a look at point three. I also really like point two, but three is exemplified in your reaction to Unknown.
[/COLOR]
Originally Posted by Stereo
Suddenly, to the recipient, I am less town than when I hadn't voted for them.
Did you read my day one case on Unknown? Take a look at point three. I also really like point two, but three is exemplified in your reaction to Unknown.
[QUOTE=Unknown1234;640374]
Let me ask two questions to you, if you are actually willing to listen to me.
1.) Are you reading deathworlds as scum or as neutral? From my perspective I don't see his ally because I know I'm not scum. You believe that we are scum together, therefore I know 100% that is wrong and cannot follow you.
2.) if you think he is neutral, where has his contributions seem neutral? I admit he is somewhat neutral, but I would argue (and have) that Jealous is way more neutral for reasons provided. As for the voting patterns, I don't see why scum would be voting Mesk, and I definitely don't see neutral voting Mesk. That makes 0 sense given all that does is make them stand out.
On the other hand, I can understand his vote on Jealous because it is along the same line of my vote. However, I don't think that his vote had enough description, but I am still staying with my stance that Jealous is neutral because this is what I believe to be accurate.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#AFEEEE"]1 As scum, general term. I can’t saying that I have a strong enough read on players to say they were the lone scum or group scum. Like, I don’t remember anything much about Quick other than he focused/tunneled/discredited Snorlax yesterday. I don’t see why you are asking us to compare this. They are independent reads.
2 Where in the Mafia Bible does it say a neutral in tone player is a neutral?
I think it may be more of Jealous’ playstyle. I read him and DarknessB and Kovath like all the same.[/COLOR]
Originally Posted by Unknown1234
Let me ask two questions to you, if you are actually willing to listen to me.
1.) Are you reading deathworlds as scum or as neutral? From my perspective I don't see his ally because I know I'm not scum. You believe that we are scum together, therefore I know 100% that is wrong and cannot follow you.
2.) if you think he is neutral, where has his contributions seem neutral? I admit he is somewhat neutral, but I would argue (and have) that Jealous is way more neutral for reasons provided. As for the voting patterns, I don't see why scum would be voting Mesk, and I definitely don't see neutral voting Mesk. That makes 0 sense given all that does is make them stand out.
On the other hand, I can understand his vote on Jealous because it is along the same line of my vote. However, I don't think that his vote had enough description, but I am still staying with my stance that Jealous is neutral because this is what I believe to be accurate.
1 As scum, general term. I can’t saying that I have a strong enough read on players to say they were the lone scum or group scum. Like, I don’t remember anything much about Quick other than he focused/tunneled/discredited Snorlax yesterday. I don’t see why you are asking us to compare this. They are independent reads.
2 Where in the Mafia Bible does it say a neutral in tone player is a neutral?
I think it may be more of Jealous’ playstyle. I read him and DarknessB and Kovath like all the same.
[QUOTE=deathworlds;640443][COLOR="#00FFFF"]
Well that's impossible because I'm town.[/COLOR]
Yuki is capable of more cognitive thought than you think, do not underestimate Yuki.[/QUOTE]
I am still waiting for you reads. There's no way you are still eating dinner.[QUOTE=Yukitaka Oni;640487]Mesk-stereo (team 1)
Deathworld-secondlynch (team 2)
I wouldn't mind saying scum is hiding in both team
But I'm pretty sure the serial killer is (some-what-like-me) try to check anyone else like me who's trying to avoid heat conversation. Of course just like deathworld said serial killer do hold the information about who he's going to kill, but that's also mean the serial killer aim for the medium-low contributor (doctor/bodyguard always aim for the highest contribute guy)[/QUOTE]
I do not see how somebody could think we are in a team with DW.
[QUOTE=Yukitaka Oni;640496]What in the fuck?!?!? I didn't even see Never Unlucky post a single post in day 1[/QUOTE]
My bad. I accidentally made three posts from my main account.
FYI, it's a *****, not a smurf.
Originally Posted by deathworlds
Well that's impossible because I'm town.
Yuki is capable of more cognitive thought than you think, do not underestimate Yuki.
I am still waiting for you reads. There's no way you are still eating dinner.
Originally Posted by Yukitaka Oni
Mesk-stereo (team 1)
Deathworld-secondlynch (team 2)
I wouldn't mind saying scum is hiding in both team
But I'm pretty sure the serial killer is (some-what-like-me) try to check anyone else like me who's trying to avoid heat conversation. Of course just like deathworld said serial killer do hold the information about who he's going to kill, but that's also mean the serial killer aim for the medium-low contributor (doctor/bodyguard always aim for the highest contribute guy)
I do not see how somebody could think we are in a team with DW.
Originally Posted by Yukitaka Oni
What in the fuck?!?!? I didn't even see Never Unlucky post a single post in day 1
My bad. I accidentally made three posts from my main account.
[QUOTE=Unknown1234;640379]As to the stereo part, you are focusing on the wrong issue which is that he is watching and has not felt the need to comment on the few times I've pinged him or say anything about the discussion. Sure, I said that my town-read was fading but the idea was that it makes him look scummier to me.
You probably won't let this go, which is stupid because I don't make these errors when I am scum, but when I'm scum. This has been shown almost every game I've played.[/QUOTE]
How about you defend yourself based on your actions this game?
[QUOTE=Unknown1234;640377]You did indeed vote me. However, your case was poor and it is clearly shown how my train actually has taken off this game and fairly fast, so I stand by my point.
It's not even a defense, it's an obvious view from my perspective. You just can't accept you don't know how to read me.[/QUOTE]
I always town-read you when you were town, moron. In IC, I was the only one defending you, in AI, I trusted you, in BFN, I knew you were town from D3... the one other time I sr you you were scum. Your argument has yet again been proven wrong.
[QUOTE=deathworlds;640383]Because investigators don't do anything AI. We need a sheriff or lookout.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=deathworlds;640385]He said he was making a wall post :/[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=deathworlds;640387]That'd be 2 TPR so far, out of a confirmed four.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=deathworlds;640389]well W/E as long as you respond soon.[/QUOTE]
STILL nothing other than fluff and setup spec. DW, give your reads.
Originally Posted by Unknown1234
As to the stereo part, you are focusing on the wrong issue which is that he is watching and has not felt the need to comment on the few times I've pinged him or say anything about the discussion. Sure, I said that my town-read was fading but the idea was that it makes him look scummier to me.
You probably won't let this go, which is stupid because I don't make these errors when I am scum, but when I'm scum. This has been shown almost every game I've played.
How about you defend yourself based on your actions this game?
Originally Posted by Unknown1234
You did indeed vote me. However, your case was poor and it is clearly shown how my train actually has taken off this game and fairly fast, so I stand by my point.
It's not even a defense, it's an obvious view from my perspective. You just can't accept you don't know how to read me.
I always town-read you when you were town, moron. In IC, I was the only one defending you, in AI, I trusted you, in BFN, I knew you were town from D3... the one other time I sr you you were scum. Your argument has yet again been proven wrong.
Originally Posted by deathworlds
Because investigators don't do anything AI. We need a sheriff or lookout.
Originally Posted by deathworlds
He said he was making a wall post :/
Originally Posted by deathworlds
That'd be 2 TPR so far, out of a confirmed four.
Originally Posted by deathworlds
well W/E as long as you respond soon.
STILL nothing other than fluff and setup spec. DW, give your reads.
[QUOTE=Unknown1234;640374]I have asked you several questions, and you completely ignore them. I can name one post where you didn't answer but there are bits from my other posts that you don't answer.[/quote]
If I've ignored a question quote it again.
That is besides the point. You said that I didn't comment on the points you made on JTL when in fact I've covered all of them.
[QUOTE]Lel, I don't really about my grammar too much, and if it's pissing you off then it's not really bothering me.[/QUOTE]
"I don't really care about my grammar" -- every person that cannot spell.
[QUOTE]That is the shortest weakest answer that I have ever seen.[/QUOTE]
Shade throw yet again.
There was nothing to be replied to your post.
[QUOTE]Let me ask two questions to you, if you are actually willing to listen to me.
1.) Are you reading deathworlds as scum or as neutral? From my perspective I don't see his ally because I know I'm not scum. You believe that we are scum together, therefore I know 100% that is wrong and cannot follow you.
[/QUOTE]
I don't "neutral-read" players, that's stupid and is something scum would do. Not surprised that you do it.
SP and I scum-read or town-read people individually. There is no point in having a neutral read when it is near confirmed that the neutral is SK. SK = scum. I do not think DW and Unknown is a scum team, but I still think Unknown is scum and DW could be the other scum faction. If I had to guess who the SK would be between the two of you it would be DW imo.
[QUOTE]2.) if you think he is neutral, where has his contributions seem neutral? I admit he is somewhat neutral, but I would argue (and have) that Jealous is way more neutral for reasons provided. As for the voting patterns, I don't see why scum would be voting Mesk, and I definitely don't see neutral voting Mesk. That makes 0 sense given all that does is make them stand out. [/QUOTE]
DW's contributions were strictly setup specs. Strictly. That's fucking neutral. Jealous has actually commented on players whereas DW merely did so when I asked him to beginning of D1.
Your argument of voting is sooooo bad. Scum don't always sheep so that they don't stand out, that would be too obvious. Just look at Quick, he voted for Calix and it made him stand out even more as scum. DW doesn't understand what Mesk's been saying lately, yes, it makes sense for him to vote her.
[quote]On the other hand, I can understand his vote on Jealous because it is along the same line of my vote. However, I don't think that his vote had enough description, but I am still staying with my stance that Jealous is neutral because this is what I believe to be accurate.[/QUOTE]
zzz
Originally Posted by Unknown1234
I have asked you several questions, and you completely ignore them. I can name one post where you didn't answer but there are bits from my other posts that you don't answer.
If I've ignored a question quote it again.
That is besides the point. You said that I didn't comment on the points you made on JTL when in fact I've covered all of them.
Lel, I don't really about my grammar too much, and if it's pissing you off then it's not really bothering me.
"I don't really care about my grammar" -- every person that cannot spell.
That is the shortest weakest answer that I have ever seen.
Shade throw yet again.
There was nothing to be replied to your post.
Let me ask two questions to you, if you are actually willing to listen to me.
1.) Are you reading deathworlds as scum or as neutral? From my perspective I don't see his ally because I know I'm not scum. You believe that we are scum together, therefore I know 100% that is wrong and cannot follow you.
I don't "neutral-read" players, that's stupid and is something scum would do. Not surprised that you do it.
SP and I scum-read or town-read people individually. There is no point in having a neutral read when it is near confirmed that the neutral is SK. SK = scum. I do not think DW and Unknown is a scum team, but I still think Unknown is scum and DW could be the other scum faction. If I had to guess who the SK would be between the two of you it would be DW imo.
2.) if you think he is neutral, where has his contributions seem neutral? I admit he is somewhat neutral, but I would argue (and have) that Jealous is way more neutral for reasons provided. As for the voting patterns, I don't see why scum would be voting Mesk, and I definitely don't see neutral voting Mesk. That makes 0 sense given all that does is make them stand out.
DW's contributions were strictly setup specs. Strictly. That's fucking neutral. Jealous has actually commented on players whereas DW merely did so when I asked him to beginning of D1.
Your argument of voting is sooooo bad. Scum don't always sheep so that they don't stand out, that would be too obvious. Just look at Quick, he voted for Calix and it made him stand out even more as scum. DW doesn't understand what Mesk's been saying lately, yes, it makes sense for him to vote her.
On the other hand, I can understand his vote on Jealous because it is along the same line of my vote. However, I don't think that his vote had enough description, but I am still staying with my stance that Jealous is neutral because this is what I believe to be accurate.
[QUOTE=Mesk514;640358]uh, I'm pretty sure Eggy is a cit mah dude.[/QUOTE]
I think he is lock-town from his D1 tone (My partner disagrees), but dunno about the cit claim and we shouldn't be discussing un-claimed town roles.
[QUOTE=deathworlds;640369]Why would you be concerned with mayor?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=deathworlds;640371]Why would investigative pairings matter at this point? We already have 1 investigative dead, who was an investigator.[/QUOTE]
Do you have anything else than setup related posts/comments to make?
Originally Posted by Mesk514
uh, I'm pretty sure Eggy is a cit mah dude.
I think he is lock-town from his D1 tone (My partner disagrees), but dunno about the cit claim and we shouldn't be discussing un-claimed town roles.
Originally Posted by deathworlds
Why would you be concerned with mayor?
Originally Posted by deathworlds
Why would investigative pairings matter at this point? We already have 1 investigative dead, who was an investigator.
Do you have anything else than setup related posts/comments to make?
[QUOTE=Unknown1234;640367]Also I'm actually really starting to lose my town-read on [MENTION=27200]Stereo[/MENTION] who isn't even attempting to get involved right now.[/QUOTE]
You stated that you had Stereo as a scum-read less than 30 posts ago. Contradiction.
[QUOTE=Unknown1234;640360]As funny as it is, the fact that people have me as their strongest scum-read and are voting me should be a strong indication I'm not scum. I never get voted when I actually am scum, only town.
Don't ask me why, but it is quite funny. People just don't understand how I play as town. Zzz...[/QUOTE]
Ok, guys, he is right. Take your votes off of him.
Yeah, no. I voted you in GoT and you were scum. Point proven wrong.
Using self-meta as a defense... lmao.
Originally Posted by Unknown1234
Also I'm actually really starting to lose my town-read on
@Stereo
who isn't even attempting to get involved right now.
You stated that you had Stereo as a scum-read less than 30 posts ago. Contradiction.
Originally Posted by Unknown1234
As funny as it is, the fact that people have me as their strongest scum-read and are voting me should be a strong indication I'm not scum. I never get voted when I actually am scum, only town.
Don't ask me why, but it is quite funny. People just don't understand how I play as town. Zzz...
Ok, guys, he is right. Take your votes off of him.
Yeah, no. I voted you in GoT and you were scum. Point proven wrong.
[QUOTE=Unknown1234;640357]I can't even begin to believe how you play this game. I have asked you severa questions as to why I believe Jealous is way scummier then deathworlds. You don't address more than half of what I say unless it appears to you.[/quote]
I have addressed all of your points if I am not mistaken. Go ahead and quote the ones I didn't comment on.
Do me a favor and read [URL="https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiZ16nqzZLPAhXEcT4KHfHCAxMQFggeMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgrammarist.com%2Fusage%2Fthan-then%2F&usg=AFQjCNG5roZOCQ4kL8Ta8ZibYbwg1GkG3Q&sig2=6O_5lT4Zrw7R9jatXLfE8Q"]this page [/URL](or ask [MENTION=27116]Calix[/MENTION] to explain the concept to you). I cringe everytime you make that mistake. It needs to stop.
I haven't even said deathworlds is town, but that my read on Jealous is way stronger and built better then my read on deathworlds. I don't even know if you actually believe deathworlds is scummier then Jealous.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I believe it. Just compare their contributions and voting patterns, should be telling enough.
Originally Posted by Unknown1234
I can't even begin to believe how you play this game. I have asked you severa questions as to why I believe Jealous is way scummier then deathworlds. You don't address more than half of what I say unless it appears to you.
I have addressed all of your points if I am not mistaken. Go ahead and quote the ones I didn't comment on.
Do me a favor and read this page (or ask
@Calix
to explain the concept to you). I cringe everytime you make that mistake. It needs to stop.
I haven't even said deathworlds is town, but that my read on Jealous is way stronger and built better then my read on deathworlds. I don't even know if you actually believe deathworlds is scummier then Jealous.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I believe it. Just compare their contributions and voting patterns, should be telling enough.
[QUOTE=Mesk514;640341]eh SL, this is why we don't draw special attention to certain things... yah know what I'm talking bout?
if i die tonight I'm blaming you SL[/QUOTE]
Lol, sorry. Deep inside you know it's your fault. I tried to keep it covered.
[QUOTE=Mesk514;640346]i can't fathom the idea of DWs being scum if he's being this stupid(not stupid stupid, more oblivious)... what are you thinking SL?[/QUOTE]
Stupidity is not a tell. Eggy would be town every game if it was.
He's one of my scum-reads. He's been so neutral this game, barely giving his opinion on players, pretty much only doing setup spec. Unknown is pushing Jealous with reasons that apply to DW more than to JTL.
Originally Posted by Mesk514
eh SL, this is why we don't draw special attention to certain things... yah know what I'm talking bout?
if i die tonight I'm blaming you SL
Lol, sorry. Deep inside you know it's your fault. I tried to keep it covered.
Originally Posted by Mesk514
i can't fathom the idea of DWs being scum if he's being this stupid(not stupid stupid, more oblivious)... what are you thinking SL?
Stupidity is not a tell. Eggy would be town every game if it was.
He's one of my scum-reads. He's been so neutral this game, barely giving his opinion on players, pretty much only doing setup spec. Unknown is pushing Jealous with reasons that apply to DW more than to JTL.
Are you reaction-testing? Or should I prove your question stupid?
[QUOTE=Stereo;640310]I was trying place my vote before taking my dog out. He's old, so I have to take him out fairly often.
I don't like that he's pushing JTL because I feel he is town. He was also the last vote on Drizzt. It seemed like a move to get town to lynch a townie. I may not have believed Drizzt's claims, but I still wasn't willing to lynch him Day 1. Paired with Quick's partial town read on him, and the fact that its between Unknown and JTL at this moment, I placed my vote on Unknown because I believe he has a higher chance of flipping scum than JTL.[/QUOTE]
False dichotomy, but fair points.
Originally Posted by deathworlds
If you have me as serial killer, why would I be pushing the other neutral candidate?
I don't follow you.
Originally Posted by deathworlds
I feel like this is important to mention.
Was anyone roleblocked?
Are you reaction-testing? Or should I prove your question stupid?
Originally Posted by Stereo
I was trying place my vote before taking my dog out. He's old, so I have to take him out fairly often.
I don't like that he's pushing JTL because I feel he is town. He was also the last vote on Drizzt. It seemed like a move to get town to lynch a townie. I may not have believed Drizzt's claims, but I still wasn't willing to lynch him Day 1. Paired with Quick's partial town read on him, and the fact that its between Unknown and JTL at this moment, I placed my vote on Unknown because I believe he has a higher chance of flipping scum than JTL.
[MENTION=27200]Stereo[/MENTION] it is extremely scummy to just place your vote and then leave. Why did you vote Unknown? Do you agree with my points? You made no comments saying so.
@Stereo
it is extremely scummy to just place your vote and then leave. Why did you vote Unknown? Do you agree with my points? You made no comments saying so.
[QUOTE=Unknown1234;640291]Insulting others is what you consider shade throwing, so fine.[/quote]
That has no relation with [URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=640289#post640289"]the post you quoted [/URL]whatsoever.
[quote]I honestly believe Jealous has done nothing this game, and you fail to show me where he was therefore you are way too arrogant and are proving my point.[/QUOTE]
A) Jealous was a replacement. It is normal that he has done less than, say, me or Calix.
B) Gyrlander, Eggy, Dezkai, Stereo nor Mesk have done any more than JTL. The fact that you are SRing JTL for this argument shows how opportunistic your case is.
C) His wall post brought many new points in the spoiler.
D) You went from saying that he made "no conclusions" to "done nothing". Contradiction.
E) How is me being arrogant a point? I'm always TonyStark-arrogant, it is not a point, and it is certainly not proving your point.
Unknown needs to be lynched.
Originally Posted by Unknown1234
Insulting others is what you consider shade throwing, so fine.
I honestly believe Jealous has done nothing this game, and you fail to show me where he was therefore you are way too arrogant and are proving my point.
A) Jealous was a replacement. It is normal that he has done less than, say, me or Calix.
B) Gyrlander, Eggy, Dezkai, Stereo nor Mesk have done any more than JTL. The fact that you are SRing JTL for this argument shows how opportunistic your case is.
C) His wall post brought many new points in the spoiler.
D) You went from saying that he made "no conclusions" to "done nothing". Contradiction.
E) How is me being arrogant a point? I'm always TonyStark-arrogant, it is not a point, and it is certainly not proving your point.
[QUOTE=Mesk514;640287]dude thats why i said fucked you fun asshat. jesus way to draw attention you s o a b[/QUOTE]
You're the one who translated what you said in Le French and gave the info away...
[QUOTE=Yukitaka Oni;640290][IMG]https://www.relatably.com/m/img/table-flipping-meme/f9bcafaf6e39068efb268a2d64e15629fd629938f135b287e8e5c1787ddd467c.jpg[/IMG]
Les Enfants Terribles
(The terrible children)[/QUOTE]
Les terribles enfants***
How many times do I have to correct you?
[QUOTE=Unknown1234;640282]1.) I can't argue that one because I am unaware of your experience
2.) No. [B][I][U]What you did was push all other possible options [/U][/I][/B]when people decided to completely lock in on it only being an SK kill. Why are you saying you didn't, and that it somehow has an impact on your role?[/QUOTE]
Contradiction to your previous posts.
Originally Posted by Mesk514
dude thats why i said fucked you fun asshat. jesus way to draw attention you s o a b
You're the one who translated what you said in Le French and gave the info away...
Originally Posted by Yukitaka Oni
Les Enfants Terribles
(The terrible children)
Les terribles enfants***
How many times do I have to correct you?
Originally Posted by Unknown1234
1.) I can't argue that one because I am unaware of your experience
2.) No. What you did was push all other possible options when people decided to completely lock in on it only being an SK kill. Why are you saying you didn't, and that it somehow has an impact on your role?
[QUOTE=Unknown1234;640253]I will enjoy seeing your reaction post-game or when I'm lynched that I'm town. You really do jump to conclusions, especially off one line.
That being said, I've expressed my frustration enough about how people don't try at all, and the whole line of Mesk using her telepathic powers to know he isn't a killer actually saddens me.[/QUOTE]
Prefers being emotional than disproving the points made against him. Noted.
[QUOTE=Mesk514;640271]out of curiosity, who is secondlynch composed of... sp &&&?[/QUOTE]
Dude, did you not read my last post? I asked you a question in simili-French and I've made my personality clear when pushing Yuki, Unknown and Quick... If you can't figure who I am, I'm disappointed in you.
Originally Posted by Unknown1234
I will enjoy seeing your reaction post-game or when I'm lynched that I'm town. You really do jump to conclusions, especially off one line.
That being said, I've expressed my frustration enough about how people don't try at all, and the whole line of Mesk using her telepathic powers to know he isn't a killer actually saddens me.
Prefers being emotional than disproving the points made against him. Noted.
Originally Posted by Mesk514
out of curiosity, who is secondlynch composed of... sp &&&?
Dude, did you not read my last post? I asked you a question in simili-French and I've made my personality clear when pushing Yuki, Unknown and Quick... If you can't figure who I am, I'm disappointed in you.
[QUOTE=Mesk514;640243]okay fine, imma settle with a
[vote]unknown1234[/vote]
if theres a vigi, shoot death worlds
if theres a neut killer kill SL :)[/QUOTE]
You make no sense -- unless you think Quick vs SL was SvS and can back it up, I am mechanically confirmed NOT scum.
[QUOTE=Unknown1234;640252]Show me why Shade throwing is scum and how you supposedly don't use it. I'd love to hear this.[/quote]
You admit that you are throwing shade.
"Show me why shade throwing is scum" WTF? Making someone appear bad to the town IS scum -- town doesn't want to purposefully doubt-cast people.
[QUOTE]Also, show me where Jealous has been [B]even slightly help fil [/B]this game because[B] I doubt you'll be able to find it[/B].[/QUOTE]
LOOK AT HOW SHADE-THROWING HE IS HERE!
In his wall post, Jealous has noticed some things that nobody before him had remarked, that's some new points.
[QUOTE]If you don't think he's evil, what do you think of him conveniently leaving out SK in his analysis's?[/QUOTE]
OMG, the misrep! He didn't leave out SK, he said that there were other possibilities [I]other than SK[/I].
[QUOTE]Why is this the only thing you do? Same as last day, you continue to MIS read me in the most oppourtunistic way it's actually hard to see you as a town at this point.[/QUOTE]
I never mis-read your post. Our case on you is NOT opportunistic, we have been pushing you since D1. We are not suddenly jumping onto you. ANOTHER INSTANCE OF HIM PAINTING ME AS SCUM!
You have yet to show how Quick vs SL is SvS -- Heck, you even said that QUICK WAS THE TOWN BETWEEN US TWO.
[QUOTE]And if you don't see where he does not pick a fight and does not make general conclusions, then you are by reading the game. The only part you comment on is the one spot you think you can attack me with, then add in the "shade throwing" bit.[/QUOTE]
Goes from "actually hard to see you as town" to "by reading the game". Inconsistency.
You yourself have not drawn conclusion, just look at this very post: "Actually hard to see you as town" -- A shade-throw with NO CONCLUSION.
[quote]If I'm going to be lynched, I'd lynch Jealous tomorrow and go from there because I know I'm town and this argument from SecondLynch is oppourtunistic and weak.[/QUOTE]
You have yet to refute a single point of SP's D1 case, you admitted that you shade-throw, you SR JTL for something you don't even do, you TR Quick, you said you thought Drizzt was town but still voted him, you play to your scum meta, you call my case on you opportunistic when we've been on you since D1...
You are scum.
UNKNOWN NEEDS MORE VOTES.
Originally Posted by Mesk514
okay fine, imma settle with a
-vote unknown1234
if theres a vigi, shoot death worlds
if theres a neut killer kill SL
You make no sense -- unless you think Quick vs SL was SvS and can back it up, I am mechanically confirmed NOT scum.
Originally Posted by Unknown1234
Show me why Shade throwing is scum and how you supposedly don't use it. I'd love to hear this.
You admit that you are throwing shade.
"Show me why shade throwing is scum" WTF? Making someone appear bad to the town IS scum -- town doesn't want to purposefully doubt-cast people.
Also, show me where Jealous has been even slightly help fil this game because I doubt you'll be able to find it.
LOOK AT HOW SHADE-THROWING HE IS HERE!
In his wall post, Jealous has noticed some things that nobody before him had remarked, that's some new points.
If you don't think he's evil, what do you think of him conveniently leaving out SK in his analysis's?
OMG, the misrep! He didn't leave out SK, he said that there were other possibilities other than SK.
Why is this the only thing you do? Same as last day, you continue to MIS read me in the most oppourtunistic way it's actually hard to see you as a town at this point.
I never mis-read your post. Our case on you is NOT opportunistic, we have been pushing you since D1. We are not suddenly jumping onto you. ANOTHER INSTANCE OF HIM PAINTING ME AS SCUM!
You have yet to show how Quick vs SL is SvS -- Heck, you even said that QUICK WAS THE TOWN BETWEEN US TWO.
And if you don't see where he does not pick a fight and does not make general conclusions, then you are by reading the game. The only part you comment on is the one spot you think you can attack me with, then add in the "shade throwing" bit.
Goes from "actually hard to see you as town" to "by reading the game". Inconsistency.
You yourself have not drawn conclusion, just look at this very post: "Actually hard to see you as town" -- A shade-throw with NO CONCLUSION.
If I'm going to be lynched, I'd lynch Jealous tomorrow and go from there because I know I'm town and this argument from SecondLynch is oppourtunistic and weak.
You have yet to refute a single point of SP's D1 case, you admitted that you shade-throw, you SR JTL for something you don't even do, you TR Quick, you said you thought Drizzt was town but still voted him, you play to your scum meta, you call my case on you opportunistic when we've been on you since D1...
[QUOTE=Unknown1234;640242]This actually made me want to leave honestly, I'll be back later.[/QUOTE]
Just like in GoT -- I tunneled him, and he left because it "gave him a headache"
Scum Unknown leaves the thread when he is under some heat and comes back later when it dissipated. This time I am not letting him go through my fingers.
[QUOTE=Mesk514;640239]okay fine, jesus christ... as you can tell or as you may have heard I've had a little bit of medical issues, therefore my reading is 110% complete. but if you pushed Quick i do believe you on that as i know i had a supporter at the beginning but don't say you pushed him the hardest because i was the one who left my vote on him the whole day until i was pretty much forced to change so a lynch could have been accomplished.[/QUOTE]
You had your vote on him, but you didn't push him, lol. If you think I didn't push him, just read through 50-100, I think that was when I started going for him.
Originally Posted by Unknown1234
This actually made me want to leave honestly, I'll be back later.
Just like in GoT -- I tunneled him, and he left because it "gave him a headache"
Scum Unknown leaves the thread when he is under some heat and comes back later when it dissipated. This time I am not letting him go through my fingers.
Originally Posted by Mesk514
okay fine, jesus christ... as you can tell or as you may have heard I've had a little bit of medical issues, therefore my reading is 110% complete. but if you pushed Quick i do believe you on that as i know i had a supporter at the beginning but don't say you pushed him the hardest because i was the one who left my vote on him the whole day until i was pretty much forced to change so a lynch could have been accomplished.
You had your vote on him, but you didn't push him, lol. If you think I didn't push him, just read through 50-100, I think that was when I started going for him.
[QUOTE=Unknown1234;640237]How am I scum with deathworlds to you? If your entire read is "because he liked deathworlds setup spec" then you are completely wrong and it's sad because I'm not scum.[/QUOTE]
You are scum, DW may be as well. My read is not based on this. I shall elaborate later.
[QUOTE=Mesk514;640235]well imma just assume theres a neut killer. and jtl is not a killer. i sense it with my telepathy[/QUOTE]
Alor t u las bézé hi-yer é t-u hen con-clu kil né pa sk? (jhe pharll hen movai frassai pr pa kil sach thon soff clém avek gougowl tr ans)
[QUOTE=Unknown1234;640232]To be completely honest, if you sign for a replacement you should be consciously aware that you will be replacing in regardless. I've also seen you read the thread so that point isn't valid.
On that note, you shouldn't make a post like that because it does nothing except make you look like you're contributing. To add onto that, you never even added anything new, and instead made ridiculous conclusions that aren't followed up. If you make these conclusions explain why or don't make them. You never came back to add them.[/QUOTE]
Unknown is back, throwing shade yet again. Jealous has added plenty of new points.
Who else was on snorlax before Drizzt was lynched?[/QUOTE]
Mesk for like 1 minute.
Originally Posted by Unknown1234
How am I scum with deathworlds to you? If your entire read is "because he liked deathworlds setup spec" then you are completely wrong and it's sad because I'm not scum.
You are scum, DW may be as well. My read is not based on this. I shall elaborate later.
Originally Posted by Mesk514
well imma just assume theres a neut killer. and jtl is not a killer. i sense it with my telepathy
Alor t u las bézé hi-yer é t-u hen con-clu kil né pa sk? (jhe pharll hen movai frassai pr pa kil sach thon soff clém avek gougowl tr ans)
Originally Posted by Unknown1234
To be completely honest, if you sign for a replacement you should be consciously aware that you will be replacing in regardless. I've also seen you read the thread so that point isn't valid.
On that note, you shouldn't make a post like that because it does nothing except make you look like you're contributing. To add onto that, you never even added anything new, and instead made ridiculous conclusions that aren't followed up. If you make these conclusions explain why or don't make them. You never came back to add them.
Unknown is back, throwing shade yet again. Jealous has added plenty of new points.
[MENTION=28193]Mesk514[/MENTION] I am literally the one who pushed Quick the hardest. Unless you think this was a ploy and it was SvS, I am mechanically confirmed NOT scum. I do agree that DW is very likely scum and that...
Unknown is scum.
[vote]Unknown1234[/vote]
@Mesk514
I am literally the one who pushed Quick the hardest. Unless you think this was a ploy and it was SvS, I am mechanically confirmed NOT scum. I do agree that DW is very likely scum and that...
[QUOTE=Drizzt;639989]From SecondLynch and Quick's perspective, I am lock town based on votes. I am mechanically town. Any townies still on me switch to Snorlax with me.
If Quick or SecomdLynch vote me, it's basically an admittance if Mafia due to mechanical votes that would require me to be Mafia with both of them.
Snorlax is an opportunistic scum taking advantage of a new player on the basis of being new.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#AFEEEE"]Unless the votes were different at your time of posting this, then I do not see this mechanically lock town.
You saying Snorlax is voting you due to being new is [I]almost[/I] like saying new players shouldn't be lynched. Well that doesn't make sense, because new players are just as likely to be scum.
Only difference is, they give themselves away faster.
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[QUOTE=Unknown1234;640001]I'm getting my bad gut feeling where a lynch is actually good but the result is bad.
I might unvote TBH, I don't have any good reason but i am starting to get my gut feeling about him.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#AFEEEE"]Scum read provides himself the way out. Hi Unknown.[/COLOR]
Originally Posted by Drizzt
From SecondLynch and Quick's perspective, I am lock town based on votes. I am mechanically town. Any townies still on me switch to Snorlax with me.
If Quick or SecomdLynch vote me, it's basically an admittance if Mafia due to mechanical votes that would require me to be Mafia with both of them.
Snorlax is an opportunistic scum taking advantage of a new player on the basis of being new.
Unless the votes were different at your time of posting this, then I do not see this mechanically lock town.
You saying Snorlax is voting you due to being new is almost like saying new players shouldn't be lynched. Well that doesn't make sense, because new players are just as likely to be scum.
Only difference is, they give themselves away faster.
Originally Posted by Unknown1234
I'm getting my bad gut feeling where a lynch is actually good but the result is bad.
I might unvote TBH, I don't have any good reason but i am starting to get my gut feeling about him.
Scum read provides himself the way out. Hi Unknown.
[QUOTE=SecondLynch;640036][COLOR="#AFEEEE"]I hate to say this but: my partner is being too emotional.
He's also missing the context/content of the posts I'm sure he tonally read.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#AFEEEE"]Well I think my partner is at school so I'll explain those tone posts he probably got from somewhere.
AFTER being prodded, Drizzt started to analyze players. He was doing it in a sense "Ah I'm done." Instead of something he wanted to do.
He also focused on players that were focusing on him more than players that were not. These two points added together is equal to a person that only does analysis to gain town cred to save his own hide.
In addition, he missed out on responding to our queries. Most notably, why he posted his opening post. [/COLOR]
Originally Posted by SecondLynch
I hate to say this but: my partner is being too emotional.
He's also missing the context/content of the posts I'm sure he tonally read.
Well I think my partner is at school so I'll explain those tone posts he probably got from somewhere.
AFTER being prodded, Drizzt started to analyze players. He was doing it in a sense "Ah I'm done." Instead of something he wanted to do.
He also focused on players that were focusing on him more than players that were not. These two points added together is equal to a person that only does analysis to gain town cred to save his own hide.
In addition, he missed out on responding to our queries. Most notably, why he posted his opening post.
Originally Posted by deathworlds
Yuki your shitposts are annoying me.
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