We have a jailor. Lynch one and Zuko can jail the other. If one flips scum then he protects the real Sokka for a night. If Sokka flips then Zuko can execute the scum.
We have a jailor. Lynch one and Zuko can jail the other. If one flips scum then he protects the real Sokka for a night. If Sokka flips then Zuko can execute the scum.
[QUOTE=Sangok;393056]Please post your readings on KW#3 and Pathik, my read wall's coming up.[/QUOTE]
KW#3- Most likely scum. In my eyes she has been scummy for a couple days. First it is when she constantly asked questions which is a scum thing usually to gain town points. Also the fact she has tried hard to get Hama lynched and killed so if she flips mafia he is most likely town. She also buddied with Wan Shi Tong so if she ends up flipping FN then he is most likely also.
Pathik- He organized things which town can do, but scum also may use it for town points. He has given nice read walls even though they found half-scum. He talks very logically though and is pretty calm. He is active and constantly talking. I don't necessarily think he is FN. He might be cult.
[vote]Kyoshi Warrior #3[/vote]
Overall I have started to suspect her based on her actions and I agree with Due that she is most likely scum.
Also I don't really get why Kuruk was pressured like he was. He has claimed roleblocked for 3 days straight so how could he be FN unless he was trying to play a stupid gambit.
Originally Posted by Sangok
Please post your readings on KW#3 and Pathik, my read wall's coming up.
KW#3- Most likely scum. In my eyes she has been scummy for a couple days. First it is when she constantly asked questions which is a scum thing usually to gain town points. Also the fact she has tried hard to get Hama lynched and killed so if she flips mafia he is most likely town. She also buddied with Wan Shi Tong so if she ends up flipping FN then he is most likely also.
Pathik- He organized things which town can do, but scum also may use it for town points. He has given nice read walls even though they found half-scum. He talks very logically though and is pretty calm. He is active and constantly talking. I don't necessarily think he is FN. He might be cult.
-vote Kyoshi Warrior #3
Overall I have started to suspect her based on her actions and I agree with Due that she is most likely scum.
Also I don't really get why Kuruk was pressured like he was. He has claimed roleblocked for 3 days straight so how could he be FN unless he was trying to play a stupid gambit.
[QUOTE=Kuruk;393058]Then again the move you made makes you just as much of a dead man as me... Glad I won't be alone in avatar hell.
What do you think players should hunt for in a mafia player? What do you think their tells will be?[/QUOTE]
Yea most likely I will die, but working on reads for KY#3 and Pathik right now.
Also Due is most likely Iroh. It would explain why he lost his "motivation" to play the game.
Originally Posted by Kuruk
Then again the move you made makes you just as much of a dead man as me... Glad I won't be alone in avatar hell.
What do you think players should hunt for in a mafia player? What do you think their tells will be?
Yea most likely I will die, but working on reads for KY#3 and Pathik right now.
Also Due is most likely Iroh. It would explain why he lost his "motivation" to play the game.
[QUOTE=Kuruk;392452]I would also note that lion is not exactly a confirmed cit. Not in the slightest. If I were scum I would claim water cit. We could be asking the jailor to protect a player that will hunt for him to kill him just as easily as we could be protecting a valued asset to the town. We need to weigh this risk / benefit situation against the possible benefit of other actions.
I'm not saying this is a bad idea but I am saying lets think this through and take a hard look at lion before jumping to this just because he claimed cit.[/QUOTE]
I believe Lion Turtle's water cit claim and he had no cc when he claimed it. If someone wants to cc him I will still believe him over many others.
Originally Posted by Kuruk
I would also note that lion is not exactly a confirmed cit. Not in the slightest. If I were scum I would claim water cit. We could be asking the jailor to protect a player that will hunt for him to kill him just as easily as we could be protecting a valued asset to the town. We need to weigh this risk / benefit situation against the possible benefit of other actions.
I'm not saying this is a bad idea but I am saying lets think this through and take a hard look at lion before jumping to this just because he claimed cit.
I believe Lion Turtle's water cit claim and he had no cc when he claimed it. If someone wants to cc him I will still believe him over many others.
[QUOTE=Pathik;392351]What are your thoughts on Momo, Due, and Monk Gyatso?[/QUOTE]
Momo- I believe the Cabbage Merchant Claim. I also believe Momo is a Jester which is reasoning why he is trying to avoid dying since he most likely wants to grow another cabbage before to end the game, but lynching him well prevent it.
Due- Going off of what Huu said yesterday I believe Due is most likely Uncle Iroh. It would explain the cat pictures for the first 2 days and then Hama says Zuko plans on joining with us as the blue spirit so Due starts talking regularly to see more pro-town.
Monk Gyatso- The modkill and flip was interesting. I didn't expect him to actually flip Zhao since he was so aggressive in his play. I guess it works out since he was the one hardcore pushing for mislynches.
Also I'd like to say after reading today I don't really trust KW#3 because of her weak arguments and saying Yangchen is Jet because of process of elimination. I'm going to be watching her.
Originally Posted by Pathik
What are your thoughts on Momo, Due, and Monk Gyatso?
Momo- I believe the Cabbage Merchant Claim. I also believe Momo is a Jester which is reasoning why he is trying to avoid dying since he most likely wants to grow another cabbage before to end the game, but lynching him well prevent it.
Due- Going off of what Huu said yesterday I believe Due is most likely Uncle Iroh. It would explain the cat pictures for the first 2 days and then Hama says Zuko plans on joining with us as the blue spirit so Due starts talking regularly to see more pro-town.
Monk Gyatso- The modkill and flip was interesting. I didn't expect him to actually flip Zhao since he was so aggressive in his play. I guess it works out since he was the one hardcore pushing for mislynches.
Also I'd like to say after reading today I don't really trust KW#3 because of her weak arguments and saying Yangchen is Jet because of process of elimination. I'm going to be watching her.
Ok I am here. Sorry guys I have been very busy and will try to be more active tomorrow. If you have any questions for me ask them now please. I'll be reading over everything I missed.
Ok I am here. Sorry guys I have been very busy and will try to be more active tomorrow. If you have any questions for me ask them now please. I'll be reading over everything I missed.
[QUOTE=Lion Turtle;391915]Yes. When I asked host of lynching Tui would reveal him, he said "He will not. Only upon activation of the event. (a.k.a. Fire Nation killing him)"
I would recommend Zuko not jail me, as I believe Katara has been converted(we only had 3 tprs the night Kyoshi died; why would Katara risk not healing a confirmed pr unless she had someone better to heal?), so me being outed can force her to heal me instead of jet to prevent a potential FN evolution, which, while damaging to TA, is even worse to the FFs.[/QUOTE]
Well I think it is a good plan to force Katara to heal you. I was thinking of a plan using Zuko, but it is best to not have him outted right now since you are outted and need to be healed.
The plan I was thinking of with Zuko was to get Katara to keep Zuko healed. Get Sokka to encourage Zuko so he can jail 2 people every night since he wants to ally with us.
Originally Posted by Lion Turtle
Yes. When I asked host of lynching Tui would reveal him, he said "He will not. Only upon activation of the event. (a.k.a. Fire Nation killing him)"
I would recommend Zuko not jail me, as I believe Katara has been converted(we only had 3 tprs the night Kyoshi died; why would Katara risk not healing a confirmed pr unless she had someone better to heal?), so me being outed can force her to heal me instead of jet to prevent a potential FN evolution, which, while damaging to TA, is even worse to the FFs.
Well I think it is a good plan to force Katara to heal you. I was thinking of a plan using Zuko, but it is best to not have him outted right now since you are outted and need to be healed.
The plan I was thinking of with Zuko was to get Katara to keep Zuko healed. Get Sokka to encourage Zuko so he can jail 2 people every night since he wants to ally with us.
[QUOTE=Lion Turtle;391913]On second thought, wifom only helps the scum in this scenario. They have a lot more information than town and can easily deduce my real role, whereas town had fewer resources and not worrying about whether I am scum or Town will be more helpful than a slim chance of my survival.
Semi-pbpa:
Start of game I got my role, knew I would have to hide, and immediately came up with the method of cit claiming that would hide myself and the other WTs. KW3 called me Iroh, and I took to this gratefully as WIFOMing survivor would keep me alive, and attract Aang. I've kept this wifom until now, since I know scum will attack me to check for night immunity.
[COLOR="#FFFFFF"]I asked host last night if Tui would be revealed if killed by anything other than Zhwo, and the answer was NO. So I only have a 1/3 chance of being him.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
So that means Tui could already be dead and we don't know?
Also Yangchen
-What are your thoughts about why Kyoshi wasn't healed last night. Mostly because I have a feeling she might have been converted by the FF n1 and I want to know what other people think about the possibility,
Originally Posted by Lion Turtle
On second thought, wifom only helps the scum in this scenario. They have a lot more information than town and can easily deduce my real role, whereas town had fewer resources and not worrying about whether I am scum or Town will be more helpful than a slim chance of my survival.
Semi-pbpa:
Start of game I got my role, knew I would have to hide, and immediately came up with the method of cit claiming that would hide myself and the other WTs. KW3 called me Iroh, and I took to this gratefully as WIFOMing survivor would keep me alive, and attract Aang. I've kept this wifom until now, since I know scum will attack me to check for night immunity.
I asked host last night if Tui would be revealed if killed by anything other than Zhwo, and the answer was NO. So I only have a 1/3 chance of being him.
So that means Tui could already be dead and we don't know?
Also Yangchen
-What are your thoughts about why Kyoshi wasn't healed last night. Mostly because I have a feeling she might have been converted by the FF n1 and I want to know what other people think about the possibility,
[QUOTE=Koh;391892]I thought only earth cits could be converted; -1[/QUOTE]
Read the set-up
[COLOR="#00FF00"]Katara[/COLOR]
At night you may Heal a player, protecting them from death.
or
Freeze a player, preventing them from acting.
You may only Freeze following a lynch of a Team Avatar member.
[COLOR="#FFFFFF"]You are the only RP role that can be recruited to the Freedom Fighters.[/COLOR]
Originally Posted by Koh
I thought only earth cits could be converted; -1
Read the set-up
Katara
At night you may Heal a player, protecting them from death.
or
Freeze a player, preventing them from acting.
You may only Freeze following a lynch of a Team Avatar member.
You are the only RP role that can be recruited to the Freedom Fighters.
Unless... Do you guys think Katara may have been converted and decided to heal Jet since that is who she needs to keep alive once she is converted. It is viable since apparently Kyoshi wasn't healed last night.
Unless... Do you guys think Katara may have been converted and decided to heal Jet since that is who she needs to keep alive once she is converted. It is viable since apparently Kyoshi wasn't healed last night.
Second, there is only 1 roleblock claim so far and that is most likely from a consort so doesn't it mean Katara decided to heal? Who did Katara heal then if not Kyoshi?
Or we could go with Huu's theory where she possibly roleblocked Zuko and he isn't claiming it.
Ok I have caught up on the thread.
First nothing happened to me last night.
Second, there is only 1 roleblock claim so far and that is most likely from a consort so doesn't it mean Katara decided to heal? Who did Katara heal then if not Kyoshi?
Or we could go with Huu's theory where she possibly roleblocked Zuko and he isn't claiming it.
[QUOTE=Kyoshi Warrior #3;391401]Already posted about WST and WF in my last post. Was tehre another one?
Hama is FN because:
-focused in on talking about fire nation roles on D1 and tried to tell us that we should make certain plans because role X is not in the game like bruiser and framer.
-Says scum would claim Water citizen since we are more unlikely to lynch them and keep them alive so we don't kill Tui. But I think that his reasoning for this is flawed. Scum would rather claim Earth Citizen because we SHOULD lynch water citizens in order to prevent FN from killing potential Tui. Hama's reasoning on this is backwards and makes me think that he is FN who posted his last thing with his FN hat on instead of pro-town Hama hat on.
I think if we are to lynch WF, we should lynch him for being a water citizen rather than for being scum. [COLOR="#FFFFFF"]But I would rather not lynch a townie in the first place.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
Hmm Hama I personally thought you meant this. But yea I'd like to hear KW3's reasoning behind the posts.
I'll be back in a bit going to make a pizza :) Starving.
Originally Posted by Kyoshi Warrior #3
Already posted about WST and WF in my last post. Was tehre another one?
Hama is FN because:
-focused in on talking about fire nation roles on D1 and tried to tell us that we should make certain plans because role X is not in the game like bruiser and framer.
-Says scum would claim Water citizen since we are more unlikely to lynch them and keep them alive so we don't kill Tui. But I think that his reasoning for this is flawed. Scum would rather claim Earth Citizen because we SHOULD lynch water citizens in order to prevent FN from killing potential Tui. Hama's reasoning on this is backwards and makes me think that he is FN who posted his last thing with his FN hat on instead of pro-town Hama hat on.
I think if we are to lynch WF, we should lynch him for being a water citizen rather than for being scum. But I would rather not lynch a townie in the first place.
Hmm Hama I personally thought you meant this. But yea I'd like to hear KW3's reasoning behind the posts.
I'll be back in a bit going to make a pizza Starving.
[QUOTE=Yangchen;391407]Its slips in speaking. The amount of time he has been talking about tui he has been talking in a pro-fn manner. Thats a huge scum tell.[/QUOTE]
Sangok confirmed he is/was an earth kingdom citizen though. Unless you think Sangok is in the FN too to defend him.
Originally Posted by Yangchen
Its slips in speaking. The amount of time he has been talking about tui he has been talking in a pro-fn manner. Thats a huge scum tell.
Sangok confirmed he is/was an earth kingdom citizen though. Unless you think Sangok is in the FN too to defend him.
[QUOTE=Kyoshi Warrior #3;391396]
Wang Fire - Seemed like a citizen to me and was very bold while answering my survey yesterday. I took this to mean that Wang Fire is town with nothing to hide, although Monk Gyasato's theory that Wang Fire was cabbage seems to fit with picking red as the color in my survey. He did claim water citizen without reason and could just have claimed citizen in general, so I'm not really sure why he did it. It seems to fit with my picture of WF that he would just claim full role even if it wouldn't be the best because no offense but WF seems a bit derpy this game so far. I can't think of reasons off the top of my head that scum would claim water citizen and not just citizen in general.[/QUOTE]
Well he did claim citizen day one and then he tried to act like earth kingdom citizen. Votes were getting onto him, but the water tribe claim wasn't really expected since he looked like he was trying to play it off as an earth kingdom citizen.
Originally Posted by Kyoshi Warrior #3
Wang Fire - Seemed like a citizen to me and was very bold while answering my survey yesterday. I took this to mean that Wang Fire is town with nothing to hide, although Monk Gyasato's theory that Wang Fire was cabbage seems to fit with picking red as the color in my survey. He did claim water citizen without reason and could just have claimed citizen in general, so I'm not really sure why he did it. It seems to fit with my picture of WF that he would just claim full role even if it wouldn't be the best because no offense but WF seems a bit derpy this game so far. I can't think of reasons off the top of my head that scum would claim water citizen and not just citizen in general.
Well he did claim citizen day one and then he tried to act like earth kingdom citizen. Votes were getting onto him, but the water tribe claim wasn't really expected since he looked like he was trying to play it off as an earth kingdom citizen.
[QUOTE=Huu;391395]If the roleblock claim is true then due is most likely Uncle iroh.[/QUOTE]
Well Due is on now so we can see how he comments to this. This is what I was thinking too since he probably knew getting Uncle Iroh would be a death sentence when Zuko can turn into town if he is lynched. This is only if he actually is uncle Iroh though.
Originally Posted by Huu
If the roleblock claim is true then due is most likely Uncle iroh.
Well Due is on now so we can see how he comments to this. This is what I was thinking too since he probably knew getting Uncle Iroh would be a death sentence when Zuko can turn into town if he is lynched. This is only if he actually is uncle Iroh though.
[QUOTE=Huu;391388]Remember that zuko also shares a night chat with uncle iroh. I don't think their names are revealed to eachother considering how easy it would be for zuko to get uncle iroh lynched so he could join team avatar. Due could also be uncle iroh trying to hide his identity from zuko.[/QUOTE]
Yea I think they answered that they don't know eachother. If Due was really roleblocked then he can't be Zuko because Zuko killed June.
Originally Posted by Huu
Remember that zuko also shares a night chat with uncle iroh. I don't think their names are revealed to eachother considering how easy it would be for zuko to get uncle iroh lynched so he could join team avatar. Due could also be uncle iroh trying to hide his identity from zuko.
Yea I think they answered that they don't know eachother. If Due was really roleblocked then he can't be Zuko because Zuko killed June.
[QUOTE=Kyoshi Warrior #3;391386]Hama sounds exactly like a Fire Nation who is tryign to eliminate the Water Citizens. At least that's what it looks like to me.
[color="#00ff00"]Does the Fire Nation win condition evolve if Tui is lynched during the day?[/color]
So many signs that Hama is a Fire Nation. Does nobody see this except for me?[/QUOTE]
I don't really see Hama being FN. At most I can see him being a traitor, but he seems very townie for me.
If you want explanation about why I can see Hama being a traitor is mostly due to his obsession with wanting Aang to reveal day 1.
Originally Posted by Kyoshi Warrior #3
Hama sounds exactly like a Fire Nation who is tryign to eliminate the Water Citizens. At least that's what it looks like to me.
Does the Fire Nation win condition evolve if Tui is lynched during the day?
So many signs that Hama is a Fire Nation. Does nobody see this except for me?
I don't really see Hama being FN. At most I can see him being a traitor, but he seems very townie for me.
If you want explanation about why I can see Hama being a traitor is mostly due to his obsession with wanting Aang to reveal day 1.
[QUOTE=Huu;391382]Zuko wasn't even able to execute someone if there was a lynch befeore his rolecard was updated. Zuko was probably prepared to talk people into death.[/QUOTE]
Yea I guess he has 3 actions.
Execute, Return, Release. They probably fixed him so he could execute every night so he can be a 2nd KPN. And yea Returning someone that isn't the avatar was added for punishment so most likely he will just be executing now.
Originally Posted by Huu
Zuko wasn't even able to execute someone if there was a lynch befeore his rolecard was updated. Zuko was probably prepared to talk people into death.
Yea I guess he has 3 actions.
Execute, Return, Release. They probably fixed him so he could execute every night so he can be a 2nd KPN. And yea Returning someone that isn't the avatar was added for punishment so most likely he will just be executing now.
[QUOTE=Wei Jin;391379]You may 'Return' your Captive to the Fire Nation. If your Return Aang your win condition will evolve. [B]If you Return anyone else you will be prevented from acting the following day.[/B]
You guys seem to be missing this part about Zuko's rolecard. He won't be able to jail anyone tonight because he killed June.[/QUOTE]
Actually it makes me wonder. [COLOR="#00FF00"]Is there a different announcement if Zuko turned someone in? Along with that is there a different announcement if Zuko just executed them?[/COLOR]
Just wondering if the death of June would have said he got turned in. Otherwise if there is different feedback then Zuko will be able to act.
Originally Posted by Wei Jin
You may 'Return' your Captive to the Fire Nation. If your Return Aang your win condition will evolve. If you Return anyone else you will be prevented from acting the following day.
You guys seem to be missing this part about Zuko's rolecard. He won't be able to jail anyone tonight because he killed June.
Actually it makes me wonder. Is there a different announcement if Zuko turned someone in? Along with that is there a different announcement if Zuko just executed them?
Just wondering if the death of June would have said he got turned in. Otherwise if there is different feedback then Zuko will be able to act.
You may 'Return' your Captive to the Fire Nation. If your Return Aang your win condition will evolve. [B]If you Return anyone else you will be prevented from acting the following day.[/B]
You guys seem to be missing this part about Zuko's rolecard. He won't be able to jail anyone tonight because he killed June.
You may 'Return' your Captive to the Fire Nation. If your Return Aang your win condition will evolve. If you Return anyone else you will be prevented from acting the following day.
You guys seem to be missing this part about Zuko's rolecard. He won't be able to jail anyone tonight because he killed June.
[QUOTE=Wang Fire;391310]If you want to lynch me, go ahead. But as proud member of town, I refuse to give up, so I'll have to reveal it to you - I am [COLOR=#00ff00]Water Tribe Citizen[/COLOR].
The least thing I wanted is for FF to recruit one of the Earth Tribe Citizens, so I tried to pretend to be the one in order to gain their attention. I would rathee see town lynching a non-town role rather than an innocent Citizen. Don't you agree with that?[/QUOTE]
Question-
If you were under suspicions and most likely Jet wouldn't convert you since people thought you were scum then why would you try to play it off like an earth tribe citizen when you were going to claim water tribe?
Originally Posted by Wang Fire
If you want to lynch me, go ahead. But as proud member of town, I refuse to give up, so I'll have to reveal it to you - I am Water Tribe Citizen.
The least thing I wanted is for FF to recruit one of the Earth Tribe Citizens, so I tried to pretend to be the one in order to gain their attention. I would rathee see town lynching a non-town role rather than an innocent Citizen. Don't you agree with that?
Question-
If you were under suspicions and most likely Jet wouldn't convert you since people thought you were scum then why would you try to play it off like an earth tribe citizen when you were going to claim water tribe?
[QUOTE=Wei Jin;391303]I think you mean 4 earth and 2 water. Anyways I believe Jet is one of the claimed earth citizens right now which is why I believe it is Wang Fire. He claimed cit day 1 for us to get the idea he was a citizen and now he said he was earth.[/QUOTE]
Also add that to the fact he was trying to play it off like he was an executioner and he realized it failed so he stopped.
Originally Posted by Wei Jin
I think you mean 4 earth and 2 water. Anyways I believe Jet is one of the claimed earth citizens right now which is why I believe it is Wang Fire. He claimed cit day 1 for us to get the idea he was a citizen and now he said he was earth.
Also add that to the fact he was trying to play it off like he was an executioner and he realized it failed so he stopped.
[QUOTE=Lion Turtle;391301]True, but there are only 6 Earth Cits left, with 3 claimed. If Scum claim, they're likely to be CC'd anyway.[/QUOTE]
I think you mean 4 earth and 2 water. Anyways I believe Jet is one of the claimed earth citizens right now which is why I believe it is Wang Fire. He claimed cit day 1 for us to get the idea he was a citizen and now he said he was earth.
Originally Posted by Lion Turtle
True, but there are only 6 Earth Cits left, with 3 claimed. If Scum claim, they're likely to be CC'd anyway.
I think you mean 4 earth and 2 water. Anyways I believe Jet is one of the claimed earth citizens right now which is why I believe it is Wang Fire. He claimed cit day 1 for us to get the idea he was a citizen and now he said he was earth.
[QUOTE=Lion Turtle;391287
Did anybody else see this soft-Cit claim? In my mind, this means a few things:
1. He could be Cit who's given up on this game with Aang's death and wants in the FFs
2. He's neutral trying to avoid attention in the long-run (Yeah he'll probably lose a cabbage to Jet, but if FN think he's Earth Cit they'll ignore him and leave him to pressure his target)
3. ^ Change Neutral with any other scum and you have similar gambit with less risk due to not having cabbages to lose. ( seriously can't say due anymore without thinking of Due >_>)[/QUOTE]
Day 1 he said he was a cit. And now I see the soft claim so he claims Earth Kingdom Cit.
[QUOTE=Lion Turtle;391287
Did anybody else see this soft-Cit claim? In my mind, this means a few things:
1. He could be Cit who's given up on this game with Aang's death and wants in the FFs
2. He's neutral trying to avoid attention in the long-run (Yeah he'll probably lose a cabbage to Jet, but if FN think he's Earth Cit they'll ignore him and leave him to pressure his target)
3. ^ Change Neutral with any other scum and you have similar gambit with less risk due to not having cabbages to lose. ( seriously can't say due anymore without thinking of Due >_>)[/QUOTE]
Day 1 he said he was a cit. And now I see the soft claim so he claims Earth Kingdom Cit.
[QUOTE=Wang Fire;391265][B]Why do you think it's more important to find the FN than the FF?[/B]
Because all of then are still alive, they can killevery night, IMO, they are far more dangerous than FF right now.
[B]What do you think of Huu defending you?[/B]
He defended me? Now that was a surpise from him. I think that he is probably affilated with Freedom Fighters after all, and they might want to recruit me later.
[B]Why do you think Wan Shi Tong is a member of the FN?[/B]
I think he can also be any other non-town role, if not FN member. His posts aren't really useful and largely serve as replies to others. I simply can't seen that person being town and all.
[B]Opinion on claimed feedback?[/B]
I already told you that someone could be faking roleblock feedback.
[B]Why haven't you contributed something of your own?[/B]
I don't see any other significant clues that could help us. My very first lead was Kyoshi, but unfortunately it turned out to be a dead-end. My other good suspects are Due and Wang Shi Tong, but I doubt that you would lynch Due anytime soon. Personally I suspect Due as Zuko/Iroh.[/QUOTE]
Ok well I see he answered his opinion on the FN over the FF. but I still don't trust him and the train on Wan Shi Tong does seem like a train that got started to deflect off of Wang Fire's train.
Originally Posted by Wang Fire
Why do you think it's more important to find the FN than the FF?
Because all of then are still alive, they can killevery night, IMO, they are far more dangerous than FF right now.
What do you think of Huu defending you?
He defended me? Now that was a surpise from him. I think that he is probably affilated with Freedom Fighters after all, and they might want to recruit me later.
Why do you think Wan Shi Tong is a member of the FN?
I think he can also be any other non-town role, if not FN member. His posts aren't really useful and largely serve as replies to others. I simply can't seen that person being town and all.
Opinion on claimed feedback?
I already told you that someone could be faking roleblock feedback.
Why haven't you contributed something of your own?
I don't see any other significant clues that could help us. My very first lead was Kyoshi, but unfortunately it turned out to be a dead-end. My other good suspects are Due and Wang Shi Tong, but I doubt that you would lynch Due anytime soon. Personally I suspect Due as Zuko/Iroh.
Ok well I see he answered his opinion on the FN over the FF. but I still don't trust him and the train on Wan Shi Tong does seem like a train that got started to deflect off of Wang Fire's train.
[QUOTE=Wang Fire;391272][B]I'm not looking for Jesters, I'm looking for evil roles like those in FN and Zuko.[/B]
Due CAN be a jester based on the manner how he posts, but Kuruk looks like a normal sane person to me. Yeah, this might clear then from being in FN, so that's why I'm supporting lynch on Wan Shi Tong. I just want to double-check that both of then are speaking the truth.[/QUOTE]
Anyone notice that he said he is looking for both FN and Zuko, but not Jet and the FF?
Anyways I'm going to read Wan Shi Tong's posts, but I prefer a Wang Fire train more. [vote]Wang Fire[/vote]
Originally Posted by Wang Fire
I'm not looking for Jesters, I'm looking for evil roles like those in FN and Zuko.
Due CAN be a jester based on the manner how he posts, but Kuruk looks like a normal sane person to me. Yeah, this might clear then from being in FN, so that's why I'm supporting lynch on Wan Shi Tong. I just want to double-check that both of then are speaking the truth.
Anyone notice that he said he is looking for both FN and Zuko, but not Jet and the FF?
Anyways I'm going to read Wan Shi Tong's posts, but I prefer a Wang Fire train more.
[QUOTE=Pathik;390987]Huh two [B]escorts[/B] is possible too I guess. That would mean noone is bmed though (or given a gun). See, this is why no feedback claims from everyone would be useful (looking at you, anyone who has not said no feedback/feedback yet).
Something that's bothering me: Why would Sokka encourage Due (into Kuruk)? Wouldn't it be better to encourage [COLOR="#00FF00"]Kyoshi/Aapa[/COLOR] or follow someone? Considering there are only 2 TPRs aside from Aapa now, doing so has a high risk of giving a non-TA PR double power or a citizen nothing. Yes, Due has been said to look towny but that's a high-risk low-reward move, all things considered. Plus following someone alerts Sokka of potential PRs (which could be very useful at some point).[/QUOTE]
Hmm you said escorts again.
Also Sokka should give the encouragement to Kyoshi now since she is confirmed.
Originally Posted by Pathik
Huh two escorts is possible too I guess. That would mean noone is bmed though (or given a gun). See, this is why no feedback claims from everyone would be useful (looking at you, anyone who has not said no feedback/feedback yet).
Something that's bothering me: Why would Sokka encourage Due (into Kuruk)? Wouldn't it be better to encourage Kyoshi/Aapa or follow someone? Considering there are only 2 TPRs aside from Aapa now, doing so has a high risk of giving a non-TA PR double power or a citizen nothing. Yes, Due has been said to look towny but that's a high-risk low-reward move, all things considered. Plus following someone alerts Sokka of potential PRs (which could be very useful at some point).
Hmm you said escorts again.
Also Sokka should give the encouragement to Kyoshi now since she is confirmed.
[QUOTE=Kyoshi;390981]And caught up on day, saw that someone pointed this out already :)
The two role-block claims leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Either Katara had a lapse in judgement, or something fishy is going on.
Either way, it's pretty much assumed we have a consort in the game.[/QUOTE]
And you beat me to it for my question lol.
Originally Posted by Kyoshi
And caught up on day, saw that someone pointed this out already
The two role-block claims leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Either Katara had a lapse in judgement, or something fishy is going on.
Either way, it's pretty much assumed we have a consort in the game.
[QUOTE=Kyoshi;390979]Just thought I would point that out.[/QUOTE]
KY#3 beat you to it.
What do you think of the 2 roleblock claims between both people who were bussed Kyoshi?
[QUOTE=Wang Fire;390973]Then how else we are supposed to find clues? I told you that I have no idea who is mafia. If we go with the "random lynch" then then it's obviois who is going to be lynched first - [B]me[/B].
And of course I don't want that. No matter the odds I want Team Avatar to win. I strongly dislike [B]Due[/B] bscause of his habit posting through "meme generator". [B]I won't be surprised if he claims himself as a power role in his next "meme".[/B] Then again, he could be probably a non-town role playing stupid to make us ignore him.[/QUOTE]
What could he claim though for a PR? Aang is dead. Kyoshi is confirmed as Appa. We know Sokka wasn't roleblocked if Kuruk got encouraged. Katara is the only spot left often, but Due got roleblocked.
Originally Posted by Kyoshi
Just thought I would point that out.
KY#3 beat you to it.
What do you think of the 2 roleblock claims between both people who were bussed Kyoshi?
Originally Posted by Wang Fire
Then how else we are supposed to find clues? I told you that I have no idea who is mafia. If we go with the "random lynch" then then it's obviois who is going to be lynched first - me.
And of course I don't want that. No matter the odds I want Team Avatar to win. I strongly dislike Due bscause of his habit posting through "meme generator". I won't be surprised if he claims himself as a power role in his next "meme". Then again, he could be probably a non-town role playing stupid to make us ignore him.
What could he claim though for a PR? Aang is dead. Kyoshi is confirmed as Appa. We know Sokka wasn't roleblocked if Kuruk got encouraged. Katara is the only spot left often, but Due got roleblocked.
[QUOTE=Kuruk;390960]Makes sense. I posted my night feedback before reading through which was kind of stupid of me. I was a little shaken when I woke up today to find the day had been going for some time. I never caught that timeline update.
After the handful of posts I have read up through so far I will say that Wang seems very scummy. But very obviously so. I have a bad habit reading too far into peoples actions but maybe he wanted someone to pick up on that? Or maybe he is just not playing very hard..[/QUOTE]
Well we believe there to be a consort and with 2 roleblocks I think Katara decided to roleblock too then. Which one of you 2 though was her roleblock target and which one was the consort is the question. Also why either of you 2 would be roleblocked by Katara since there are good town reads on both of you guys.
Originally Posted by Kuruk
Makes sense. I posted my night feedback before reading through which was kind of stupid of me. I was a little shaken when I woke up today to find the day had been going for some time. I never caught that timeline update.
After the handful of posts I have read up through so far I will say that Wang seems very scummy. But very obviously so. I have a bad habit reading too far into peoples actions but maybe he wanted someone to pick up on that? Or maybe he is just not playing very hard..
Well we believe there to be a consort and with 2 roleblocks I think Katara decided to roleblock too then. Which one of you 2 though was her roleblock target and which one was the consort is the question. Also why either of you 2 would be roleblocked by Katara since there are good town reads on both of you guys.
[QUOTE=Kuruk;390956]I suppose in the future with something hinging a lynch we should be as careful as to ask it in black and white. Without Zuko being blocked from an execution I can see no reason at all why we would want to lynched with as little evidence as we had. Hindsite is always 20/20 I guess.
Also both of my / our scum leads were off it seems. I find it interesting that June was killed when he was so high up on the scum list. I kind of wonder if I was switched with June given my night feedback..[/QUOTE]
Ok so if you were roleblocked, bussed, and encouraged then it looks like this.
The Encourage was meant for Due and both of you guys ended up getting roleblocked? So 2 roleblocks last night?
Originally Posted by Kuruk
I suppose in the future with something hinging a lynch we should be as careful as to ask it in black and white. Without Zuko being blocked from an execution I can see no reason at all why we would want to lynched with as little evidence as we had. Hindsite is always 20/20 I guess.
Also both of my / our scum leads were off it seems. I find it interesting that June was killed when he was so high up on the scum list. I kind of wonder if I was switched with June given my night feedback..
Ok so if you were roleblocked, bussed, and encouraged then it looks like this.
[QUOTE=Kyoshi;390931]
Knowing that Kuruk was targeted for a Role-Block, do you think Katara would have targeted him with a Role-Block?
I know from my reads he seemed mostly town. That means Katara wouldn't block him imo.
This leads me to believe we have a consort.
Thoughts?[/QUOTE]
I personally think it was a consort who attempted to block Kuruk. Mostly because I did have a town read on him too and most others did. From Katara's standpoint would you roleblock someone or protect Appa from dying. Of course we didn't know you were Appa yet, but mafia could have tried to kill you before you could prove you are appa. So most likely it was a consort who went for Kuruk.
Originally Posted by Kyoshi
Knowing that Kuruk was targeted for a Role-Block, do you think Katara would have targeted him with a Role-Block?
I know from my reads he seemed mostly town. That means Katara wouldn't block him imo.
This leads me to believe we have a consort.
Thoughts?
I personally think it was a consort who attempted to block Kuruk. Mostly because I did have a town read on him too and most others did. From Katara's standpoint would you roleblock someone or protect Appa from dying. Of course we didn't know you were Appa yet, but mafia could have tried to kill you before you could prove you are appa. So most likely it was a consort who went for Kuruk.
[QUOTE=Monk Gyatso;390806]I think I see a pattern here.
The rest of your posts are spam and that forced reaction to Aang's death.
The one thing I agree with you is that inactivity is bad, so...
[VOTE]Wang Fire[/VOTE][/QUOTE]
I see a pattern too. I think Wang Fire is actually the Cabbage Executioner. Although his target isn't always town so it doesn't say Kyoshi is in fact town, but I am pretty sure he is an executioner.
Originally Posted by Monk Gyatso
I think I see a pattern here.
The rest of your posts are spam and that forced reaction to Aang's death.
The one thing I agree with you is that inactivity is bad, so...
-vote Wang Fire
I see a pattern too. I think Wang Fire is actually the Cabbage Executioner. Although his target isn't always town so it doesn't say Kyoshi is in fact town, but I am pretty sure he is an executioner.
[QUOTE=Kyoshi;390591]I don't see how this applies. Zuko could also jail a citizen? Maybe?
Granted if he picks a big talker thats pro-town and is citizen and executes I could see that being anti-town...[/QUOTE]
Which is why I said possibly be a pr. He could get a citizen also, but is it worth risking it? Claim please.
Originally Posted by Kyoshi
I don't see how this applies. Zuko could also jail a citizen? Maybe?
Granted if he picks a big talker thats pro-town and is citizen and executes I could see that being anti-town...
Which is why I said possibly be a pr. He could get a citizen also, but is it worth risking it? Claim please.
[QUOTE=Kyoshi;390573]1. I left yesterday when I was called out? No. I left today after showing up for the first time today to find out that I was being "called out".
2. How did my response to the "reveal aang" strategy not have an avatar mindset? If that's how you see it, there's not really anything I can do about it if you say so.
3. Get your eyes checked so you can see me properly :)
Yeah, but I doubt it's going to happen anyways. The point I was emphasizing is that I really don't wanna claim. hint hint. No lynch & Zuko gets a kill = big whoop imo. A kill is a kill. Most likely, either way a town person will end up dead. (based on odds)
My perspective right now is defending myself, not trying to get someone else lynched. That takes priority 1.[/QUOTE]
So if we lynch you and you flip citizen is about the same weight as Zuko possibly getting a PR and executing him? This is extremely scummy that you are fine with Zuko possibly killing a PR.
Originally Posted by Kyoshi
1. I left yesterday when I was called out? No. I left today after showing up for the first time today to find out that I was being "called out".
2. How did my response to the "reveal aang" strategy not have an avatar mindset? If that's how you see it, there's not really anything I can do about it if you say so.
3. Get your eyes checked so you can see me properly
Yeah, but I doubt it's going to happen anyways. The point I was emphasizing is that I really don't wanna claim. hint hint. No lynch & Zuko gets a kill = big whoop imo. A kill is a kill. Most likely, either way a town person will end up dead. (based on odds)
My perspective right now is defending myself, not trying to get someone else lynched. That takes priority 1.
So if we lynch you and you flip citizen is about the same weight as Zuko possibly getting a PR and executing him? This is extremely scummy that you are fine with Zuko possibly killing a PR.
No I saw that post. It was just before this post that I messed up with. Mostly because I put you question the plan which was meant to acknowledge that post where you did Pros and Cons. I should have made the read more specific.
Originally Posted by Kyoshi
You missed this post
No I saw that post. It was just before this post that I messed up with. Mostly because I put you question the plan which was meant to acknowledge that post where you did Pros and Cons. I should have made the read more specific.
[QUOTE=Kyoshi;389987][COLOR="#00FF00"]Would we be notified if Zuko and Aang successfully meet and win conditions change?[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]Does Aang get feedback if he successfully assigns someone an RP role or fails to do so?[/COLOR]
It sounds like a decent idea, but I'm still unsure of it. If there is no bruiser, we pretty much have nothing to fear since Katara and Appa are in the game.
If there is a bruiser, we risk Aang dying night 2.[/QUOTE]
Ok I see what you mean Kyoshi. This post I did misread a bit. Seems you were indifferent about it at the time and then decided it was bad.
Originally Posted by Kyoshi
Would we be notified if Zuko and Aang successfully meet and win conditions change?
Does Aang get feedback if he successfully assigns someone an RP role or fails to do so?
It sounds like a decent idea, but I'm still unsure of it. If there is no bruiser, we pretty much have nothing to fear since Katara and Appa are in the game.
If there is a bruiser, we risk Aang dying night 2.
Ok I see what you mean Kyoshi. This post I did misread a bit. Seems you were indifferent about it at the time and then decided it was bad.
[SPOILER=Reads][SPOILER=Due][COLOR="#00FF00"]Due[/COLOR]- I have a town read on him. The cat pictures at first seemed like pure trolling and he may be using them to somewhat troll, but he is paying full attention and expressing his opinions with pictures on certain posts. Also he is posting his reads as shown in this post by just putting them on a picture. Good Town Read. [QUOTE=Due;390256][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/hFzVAh0.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE][/SPOILER]
[SPOILER=Hama][COLOR="#00FF00"]Ha[/COLOR][COLOR="#FFFF00"]ma[/COLOR]- Some people think he has been trolling, but he has been trying to form plans. The plan may have fallen apart due to changes or stuff we haven’t noticed, but it would have ended up confirming Aang and would have left Zuko anonymous. He could be Zuko though trying to get the plan through so he could get the different win conditions. Semi-Town Read or Traitor[/SPOILER]
[SPOILER=Huu][COLOR="#FF8C00"]Huu[/COLOR]- First of all he claimed to be a citizen on day 1 just to get converted by Aang. I didn’t like the claim at all. He had a selfish reason to want to get converted. First of all he made it seem “townish” that he might be Bumi. He can’t confirm this and if he is a citizen and not Bumi then he is an outted role. He could easily be a FF recruit since they know for sure they would get a recruit and he said it is ok because he would return to a citizen when Jet died, but as of turning into a FF his win condition is to beat the other factions so he can’t just out Jet to turn back into a citizen. He also didn’t take into consideration if he got recruited to the FF that if they have Smellerbee then he won’t turn back into an earth kingdom citizen. I feel like it could be a plan to get Aang to visit him so the FN would know who the avatar is. If he isn’t FN then my next best guess is that he is the Jester trying to waste a night on Aang’s recruiting. Neutral-Scum Read[/SPOILER]
[SPOILER=Jin Wei]Jin Wei- My twin brother who hasn’t shown up. No Read[/SPOILER]
[SPOILER=June][COLOR="#00FFFF"]Ju[/COLOR][COLOR="#FFFF00"]ne[/COLOR]- Probably the most Jester like person in the game. Post farmed and hasn’t tried to contribute. Doesn’t care to help. It could be a risky gambit where he is FN, but I don’t exactly see it as the case. Also if we attempt to kill him at night and he survives then a pr has to out just to say he is a jester. Also I don’t think anyone considered him having a high chance of being a Traitor. If he is Uncle Iroh then he can do whatever he wants. He can act like a jester to avoid lynch and he is immune at night so if he gets shot and a pr outs to say he is immune then he can just jester ploy out of a lynch. He should be watched.Claimed citizen, but I don’t entirely believe it. Tried using CoM hints to validate his claim. Jester/Uncle Iroh Read[/SPOILER]
[SPOILER=Koh]Koh- Hasn’t showed up. No Read[/SPOILER]
[SPOILER=Kuruk][COLOR="#008000"]Kuruk[/COLOR]- He sure is aggressive. His vote on Due was early game when it was hard to tell that Due was actually posting thoughts. He gets mad easily, but I believe he is town. He is active and for a lynch today. He questioned Huu on his reveal. He is for lynching lurkers and doesn’t like active players voting on active players as of on day 1. I can kind of agree on it. Semi-Town Read[/SPOILER]
[SPOILER=Kyoshi][COLOR="#FFFF00"]Kyoshi[/COLOR]- Not very active, but more active than Tho. Kyoshi thought it was a mandatory lynch so he hasn’t been reading entirely. Said that he isn’t being very proactive. Said that the day was long and there is plenty of time to discuss yet disappeared for the second half of the day. Questioned Hama’s plan for Aang to reveal. Was asking for people’s ideas, but hasn’t really shared any of hers. Neutral-Scum Read[/SPOILER]
[SPOILER=Kyoshi Warrior #3][COLOR="#669933"]Kyoshi Warrior #3[/COLOR]- Very active poster. Asked a lot of questions, but I don’t necessarily take it as a super town read because it could be a tactic just to gain town points. He role fished for Aang a little bit which is kind of scummy, but other than that he has expressed many of his thoughts through the M-FM so far. Neutral-Town Read
[/SPOILER]
[SPOILER=La][COLOR="#D3D3D3"]La[/COLOR]- He said that Aang revealing was a bad idea because of the chance for a bruiser, but he changed that thought some posts later. He doesn’t have many posts as of which most of them are questions. He is leaning town though for me as of now because of his plan which a like once we worked out the kinks. Neutral-Town Read[/SPOILER]
[SPOILER=Lion Turtle][COLOR="#00FF00"]Lion Turtle[/COLOR]- Some people find him scummy, but I don’t really. He is active and has been trying to get conversations to start up a lot. He is trying to help the town and he was the first to call out KY#3’s vague rolefishing.[/SPOILER]
[SPOILER=Momo][COLOR="#D3D3D3"]Momo[/COLOR]- Hasn’t posted much to read on. Did call out Kuruk for putting him on the town read list when Momo hasn’t posted a lot. Other than that I don’t have much of a read for Momo so he is null for me right now.[/SPOILER]
[SPOILER=Monk Gyatso]Monk Gyatso- Hasn’t shown up. No read[/SPOILER]
[SPOILER=Pathik][COLOR="#008000"]Pathik[/COLOR]- Has been calm with how he answers questions. He answered them in a pretty pro-town way. He likes to be very organized which is nice, but being the organizer for the town doesn’t mean he is town. See FM 18 Buchwalter. I don’t think it is the case though. He is more active now too. Towny Read[/SPOILER]
[SPOILER=Sangok][COLOR="#D3D3D3"]Sangok[/COLOR]- Hasn’t posted a whole lot. Did not like Hama, but changed his thoughts after a while. Neutral read because he hasn’t done much to help the town other than butt heads with Hama. Has given reads.[/SPOILER]
[SPOILER=Tho][COLOR="#FF0000"]Tho[/COLOR]- Posted at the beginning of the day to get his 3 posts then disappeared the rest of the day. He is scum or a bored citizen most likely.[/SPOILER]
[SPOILER=Yangchen][COLOR="#00FF00"]Yangchen[/COLOR]- Has voiced his opinions and has been trying to act like a leader. Very active. Nothing much else to say except that I think he is most likely town.[/SPOILER]
[SPOILER=Wan Shi Tong][COLOR="#D3D3D3"]Wan Shi Tong[/COLOR]- I have a neutral read on him. He hasn’t tried to contribute a whole lot. Most of his posts were trolling. He does believe Tho is scummier over Kyoshi though. [/SPOILER]
[SPOILER=Wang Fire][COLOR="#FF8C00"]Wang Fire[/COLOR]- He trolled and then he claimed citizen. I don’t know if that was trolling or not, but I don’t like it. He isn’t trying to actively contribute and all and just threw his vote out there. He believes that KY#3 is more townie than Kyoshi even though he didn’t have to necessarily have to compare just those two. I’d like to hear his reads. Neutral-Scum[/SPOILER]
[SPOILER=Wei Jin][COLOR="#00FF00"]Wei Jin[/COLOR]- Well that is me.[/SPOILER]
[SPOILER=Verdict]Basically I am for lynching Tho. Kyoshi, Wang Fire, Huu, and June are all suspicious to me. June very well could be Iroh acting like a jester to avoid a lynch.
[vote]Tho[/vote] Feel Free to question any of my reads and if you want me to explain anything else.[/SPOILER][/SPOILER]
Here are my reads as of now.
Spoiler : Reads :
Spoiler : Due :
Due- I have a town read on him. The cat pictures at first seemed like pure trolling and he may be using them to somewhat troll, but he is paying full attention and expressing his opinions with pictures on certain posts. Also he is posting his reads as shown in this post by just putting them on a picture. Good Town Read.
Originally Posted by Due
Spoiler : Hama :
Hama- Some people think he has been trolling, but he has been trying to form plans. The plan may have fallen apart due to changes or stuff we haven’t noticed, but it would have ended up confirming Aang and would have left Zuko anonymous. He could be Zuko though trying to get the plan through so he could get the different win conditions. Semi-Town Read or Traitor
Spoiler : Huu :
Huu- First of all he claimed to be a citizen on day 1 just to get converted by Aang. I didn’t like the claim at all. He had a selfish reason to want to get converted. First of all he made it seem “townish” that he might be Bumi. He can’t confirm this and if he is a citizen and not Bumi then he is an outted role. He could easily be a FF recruit since they know for sure they would get a recruit and he said it is ok because he would return to a citizen when Jet died, but as of turning into a FF his win condition is to beat the other factions so he can’t just out Jet to turn back into a citizen. He also didn’t take into consideration if he got recruited to the FF that if they have Smellerbee then he won’t turn back into an earth kingdom citizen. I feel like it could be a plan to get Aang to visit him so the FN would know who the avatar is. If he isn’t FN then my next best guess is that he is the Jester trying to waste a night on Aang’s recruiting. Neutral-Scum Read
Spoiler : Jin Wei :
Jin Wei- My twin brother who hasn’t shown up. No Read
Spoiler : June :
June- Probably the most Jester like person in the game. Post farmed and hasn’t tried to contribute. Doesn’t care to help. It could be a risky gambit where he is FN, but I don’t exactly see it as the case. Also if we attempt to kill him at night and he survives then a pr has to out just to say he is a jester. Also I don’t think anyone considered him having a high chance of being a Traitor. If he is Uncle Iroh then he can do whatever he wants. He can act like a jester to avoid lynch and he is immune at night so if he gets shot and a pr outs to say he is immune then he can just jester ploy out of a lynch. He should be watched.Claimed citizen, but I don’t entirely believe it. Tried using CoM hints to validate his claim. Jester/Uncle Iroh Read
Spoiler : Koh :
Koh- Hasn’t showed up. No Read
Spoiler : Kuruk :
Kuruk- He sure is aggressive. His vote on Due was early game when it was hard to tell that Due was actually posting thoughts. He gets mad easily, but I believe he is town. He is active and for a lynch today. He questioned Huu on his reveal. He is for lynching lurkers and doesn’t like active players voting on active players as of on day 1. I can kind of agree on it. Semi-Town Read
Spoiler : Kyoshi :
Kyoshi- Not very active, but more active than Tho. Kyoshi thought it was a mandatory lynch so he hasn’t been reading entirely. Said that he isn’t being very proactive. Said that the day was long and there is plenty of time to discuss yet disappeared for the second half of the day. Questioned Hama’s plan for Aang to reveal. Was asking for people’s ideas, but hasn’t really shared any of hers. Neutral-Scum Read
Spoiler : Kyoshi Warrior #3 :
Kyoshi Warrior #3- Very active poster. Asked a lot of questions, but I don’t necessarily take it as a super town read because it could be a tactic just to gain town points. He role fished for Aang a little bit which is kind of scummy, but other than that he has expressed many of his thoughts through the M-FM so far. Neutral-Town Read
Spoiler : La :
La- He said that Aang revealing was a bad idea because of the chance for a bruiser, but he changed that thought some posts later. He doesn’t have many posts as of which most of them are questions. He is leaning town though for me as of now because of his plan which a like once we worked out the kinks. Neutral-Town Read
Spoiler : Lion Turtle :
Lion Turtle- Some people find him scummy, but I don’t really. He is active and has been trying to get conversations to start up a lot. He is trying to help the town and he was the first to call out KY#3’s vague rolefishing.
Spoiler : Momo :
Momo- Hasn’t posted much to read on. Did call out Kuruk for putting him on the town read list when Momo hasn’t posted a lot. Other than that I don’t have much of a read for Momo so he is null for me right now.
Spoiler : Monk Gyatso :
Monk Gyatso- Hasn’t shown up. No read
Spoiler : Pathik :
Pathik- Has been calm with how he answers questions. He answered them in a pretty pro-town way. He likes to be very organized which is nice, but being the organizer for the town doesn’t mean he is town. See FM 18 Buchwalter. I don’t think it is the case though. He is more active now too. Towny Read
Spoiler : Sangok :
Sangok- Hasn’t posted a whole lot. Did not like Hama, but changed his thoughts after a while. Neutral read because he hasn’t done much to help the town other than butt heads with Hama. Has given reads.
Spoiler : Tho :
Tho- Posted at the beginning of the day to get his 3 posts then disappeared the rest of the day. He is scum or a bored citizen most likely.
Spoiler : Yangchen :
Yangchen- Has voiced his opinions and has been trying to act like a leader. Very active. Nothing much else to say except that I think he is most likely town.
Spoiler : Wan Shi Tong :
Wan Shi Tong- I have a neutral read on him. He hasn’t tried to contribute a whole lot. Most of his posts were trolling. He does believe Tho is scummier over Kyoshi though.
Spoiler : Wang Fire :
Wang Fire- He trolled and then he claimed citizen. I don’t know if that was trolling or not, but I don’t like it. He isn’t trying to actively contribute and all and just threw his vote out there. He believes that KY#3 is more townie than Kyoshi even though he didn’t have to necessarily have to compare just those two. I’d like to hear his reads. Neutral-Scum
Spoiler : Wei Jin :
Wei Jin- Well that is me.
Spoiler : Verdict :
Basically I am for lynching Tho. Kyoshi, Wang Fire, Huu, and June are all suspicious to me. June very well could be Iroh acting like a jester to avoid a lynch.
-vote Tho
Feel Free to question any of my reads and if you want me to explain anything else.
Ok well I am here and caught up on reading. Will be posting my reads soon.
@La- I think that plan could really work for information. [COLOR="#00FF00"]Does the avatar get a notification that he visited Bumi, Iroh, and Pakku?[/COLOR]. Although if Aang visits a non citizen and they claim a rp role and then he converts an actual citizen and he claims the same rp role then it could end up with getting a town killed.
Ok well I am here and caught up on reading. Will be posting my reads soon.
@La- I think that plan could really work for information. Does the avatar get a notification that he visited Bumi, Iroh, and Pakku?. Although if Aang visits a non citizen and they claim a rp role and then he converts an actual citizen and he claims the same rp role then it could end up with getting a town killed.
[QUOTE=Wan Shi Tong;390223]I am not seeing a flaw in the plan to be honest. If the OoO works for the plan and we go through with this then Zuko only has to eliminate Admiral Zhao to win which would benefit him very much.. or am I missing anything?[/QUOTE]
If the plan goes through Zuko would get his evolved win condition. Nothing says he has to give up Iroh. He only has to defeat Admiral Zhao and I am assuming he can be dead for that. If he decides to follow the plan through and give up Iroh then he will become the blue spirit and his win condition be to defeat the fire nation and freedom fighters. With the plan also Team Avatar won't get the evolved win condition because Iroh was killed by a lynch before Aang could visit Iroh.
Originally Posted by Wan Shi Tong
I am not seeing a flaw in the plan to be honest. If the OoO works for the plan and we go through with this then Zuko only has to eliminate Admiral Zhao to win which would benefit him very much.. or am I missing anything?
If the plan goes through Zuko would get his evolved win condition. Nothing says he has to give up Iroh. He only has to defeat Admiral Zhao and I am assuming he can be dead for that. If he decides to follow the plan through and give up Iroh then he will become the blue spirit and his win condition be to defeat the fire nation and freedom fighters. With the plan also Team Avatar won't get the evolved win condition because Iroh was killed by a lynch before Aang could visit Iroh.
[QUOTE=Hama;390219]I've been thinking about this and there is even a solution to that.
In the unlikely event that Zuko doesn't become the Blue Spirit immediately, Zuko can merely jail Aang n2 as well until he becomes the Blue Spirit later that night.[/QUOTE]
Thing is while he is jailed though he isn't converting anyone into pr's. In the long run with being night immune he doesn't have to be afraid with Appa in the game who can switch Zuko, but what if there is a consort in game? After we know Zuko became the blue spirit then Appa has to keep on switching Aang while leaving the blue spirit open to attack. I just don't think Aang revealing is the best option.
Originally Posted by Hama
I've been thinking about this and there is even a solution to that.
In the unlikely event that Zuko doesn't become the Blue Spirit immediately, Zuko can merely jail Aang n2 as well until he becomes the Blue Spirit later that night.
Thing is while he is jailed though he isn't converting anyone into pr's. In the long run with being night immune he doesn't have to be afraid with Appa in the game who can switch Zuko, but what if there is a consort in game? After we know Zuko became the blue spirit then Appa has to keep on switching Aang while leaving the blue spirit open to attack. I just don't think Aang revealing is the best option.
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Originally Posted by Sangok
Starving.
