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    Poll: ►►Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender◄◄

    Are you clementine?
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    Poll: ►►Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuruk View Post
    My wording there was intentional. I waited until after pathic made his move because I wanted to see what he would do. As soon as the tpr was counter claimed I knew who the real one was. We needed some reads to go off of.

    On a side note I feel like I blundered a few times this game. This game was a great learning experience. It was fun as hell. I would really appreciate any feedback on my playing. Dont be afraid to tell me where I fucked up~
    I thought you played really well early game when you had access to your computer, but your contributions (understandably) dropped off when you could only post via your phone. But if your early game is indicative of your standard, then I was impressed.
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    Poll: ►►Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender◄◄

    Lol, yeah I am Muso.

    Night actions:

    1. Recruit La because she asked so many damn citizen mechanic questions. Turned out she was interested in citizens because she was trying to recruit them (like me). For the first half of the night, initially had Yangchen down as my recruit but changed my mind at the last minute because I thought he might be a town PR.
    2. Jailed. WHY GOD. Initially I tried to scare Jin Wei into letting me go but he was completely invulnerable to that.
    3. Recruit Yangchen, or Pathik can't remember which. ROLE-BLOCKED by FN so none of it mattered
    4. Still ignoring Huu and Sangok as recruit targets because I figured people would eventually kill them, or be too suspicious of them to be useful to me. It was the basic concensus that they were FF. Went for Pathik because he seemed so pro-town and commanded a great deal of influence. I thought he would be a useful voice on my side.
    5. Tossed up between Yang and Due, and tried to go for the one that I thought would attract less heat to himself. I also thought Yang would side with me even if I didn't recruit him. I probably came out with my proposal at the wrong point in the Day because the only people who ever posted after it were guaranteed enemies: ie: Pathik, WST. Huu was convinced it was game-throwing to be converted which was unfortunate for me too. Due didn't even post

    I had a diary of all my notes in the night chat, but had to ask for it to be deleted when I discovered my recruits would all hate me and try to kill me if they knew who I was.

    Gg guys was fun.
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    Poll: ►►Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender◄◄

    Oh well, if Huu wants to commit suicide for no reason there's nothing I can do.

    Hopefully others see reason and accept the auto-win.

    Going to bed. Night.
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    Poll: ►►Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender◄◄

    I never once voted for you Huu and this is how you betray me. It could have been you who was recruited and I wouldn't be throwing you under the bus like this now for 0 reason, when you could just take your guaranteed win
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    Poll: ►►Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender◄◄

    You're suicidal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huu View Post
    If you don't flip jet then i will help you lynch the last fire nation member tomorrow. Wan shi tong will be killed tonight anyway.
    Huh? I'll be dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huu View Post
    Im trying to get you lynched. Im not going to gamethrow and get myself recruited just so i can win as a freedom fighter.
    Dude, the hosts confirmed that playing for evolved alignments is encouraged, not game-throwing.

    But instead you're going to risk your death and multiple other player's deaths by leaving the game's only killing role alive?
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    Poll: ►►Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender◄◄

    Huu what are you even trying to do?
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    Poll: ►►Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender◄◄

    To any Citizen with thoughts of lynching me, you gain nothing except adding possibilities where you can die. Once Pathik is dealt with there will be 0 killing going on, aside from the lynching of Sokka.

    If you were to lynch me then: 1 of you would die to Pathik tonight, another of you would risk being lynched tmr (because I'm not Jet), and then another would be killed by Pathik the subsequent night.

    In fact the more I think about it it's practically game-throwing/suicide to do anything other than lynch Pathik right now.
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    Poll: ►►Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender◄◄

    The only people who oppose the FF are 1. the remaining fire nation member, and 2. Sokka. If you don't claim to be the remaining fire nation member, Pathik, then there would be 0 motivation for Jet to try and get you lynched.

    Sorry, your defense makes no sense, buddy.
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    Poll: ►►Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender◄◄

    game's pretty much over.

    the other citizens all now have a way to 100% guaranteed victory. Doing anything other than lynching Pathik would leave them open to death at night and a loss. There's no reason for them to accept a course other than victory.

    There's no reason for us to even hunt Jet anymore because he's on our side.

    The only people who lose out are Pathik (Fire Nation) and Wang shin tong who let's face it did shit all all game.
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    Poll: ►►Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender◄◄

    There was a single message posted in my chat last night, but Jet's post count suggests the others have a chat of their own that I cannot see.

    DELIVER THIS MZG TO TOWN

    by Jet on Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:13 am

    I TRYD TO CONVERT PATHIK NIGHT 2. HE COULD NOT BE CONVERTED. THE ONLY POSSIBLE ROLE IS FIRE NATION.

    IF YOU LYNCH HIM I WILL CONVERT ANY REMAINING CITIZENS. DO NOT WORRY IF YOU ARE NOT YET CONVERTED. YOU WILL BE. THE GAME ONLY ENDS WHEN ALL TOWN ARE DEFEATED. WHEN ALL CITIZENS ARE CONVERTED WE WILL LYNCH WS-TONG.

    YOU HAVE MY WORD.

    THIS ENSURES VICTORY FOR THE FOLLOWING PLAYERS:

    DUE
    HAMA
    HUU
    SANGOK
    YANGCHEN

    YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO

    BYE



    Jet

    Posts: 59
    Join date: 2013-10-09




    The TA are doomed. I intend to side with the faction that guarantees my victory. Sucks to be Wan Shing Tong, but I guess that's what you get for failing to contribute properly for the first 3 days.

    gg ez

    EZ

    ps: wow Pathik is mafia!? what a pro

    -vote Pathik
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    Poll: ►►Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender◄◄

    I don't recall this.

    Post quotes.
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    Poll: ►►Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Pathik View Post
    What is it with ad hominem attacks today.
    He is raging that I didn't want to join his FF party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sangok View Post
    @Hama

    I have a life, like you don't. I can't actually get up at 3 in the morning to change my vote just in time for your little hammer without me. If you've got a problem, delay the lynch until the people in Europe and Asia actually get to see the day posts before the lynch.
    I live in Asia bro.

    gg
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    Poll: ►►Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Rafiki View Post
    Kyoshi Warrior #3 has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


    Wei Jin (1 [L-6]): Jin Wei
    Kyoshi Warrior #3 (7 [L-0]): Hama, Koh, Wan Shi Tong, Wei Jin, Yangchen, Pathik, Kuruk
    Wan Shi Tong (3 [L-4]): Kyoshi Warrior #3, Sangok, Due
    Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sangok View Post
    Pathik and Hama are seriously blind. I bet all the Earth Citizens here can confirm their role card EXACTLY said: You are a member of the Earth tribe. Not Earth Citizen. Not Citizen.

    Conclusion: Pathik is Jet, Hama was NEVER a citizen, just converted.
    Your continuing to post manufactured arguments that are easily faked reinforces my earlier suspicion. You are Jet.

    Today is Day 5. You could have easily asked any of your other recruits to tell you exactly what the earth kingdom role-card said in order to construct your alibi.

    Yangchen is your getaway card, which is why you tried to frame him with that message you left in the chat last night.

    -vote Sangok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sangok View Post
    the error with this list: hama is a freedom fighter; i actually semi-confirmed myself by the earth citizen role card.
    Saying "i think Huu is legit" doesn't confirm anything other than the fact you buddied Huu.
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    Poll: ►►Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender◄◄

    I think I have it figured out.

    Koh: FN
    Zuko: Jin Wei
    Iroh: Due

    Sokka: WST
    Earth Cit: Yang
    Pipsqueak: Me
    Jet: Sangok
    Jet candidate 2/ FF/
    Earth cit: Pathik
    FF unknown role: Huu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huu View Post
    Its amusing that you try to frame me of beeing a freedom fighter when you have claimed freedom fighter yourself.
    You claimed Earth Cit on Day 1 to get recruited and have been pro ff the whole game since. I'm not trying to frame you for anything. It's simply a fact that you're almost certainly recruited because let's face it, why wouldn't you be?

    Whether you're evading due to misplaced loyalty to Jet, or because you genuinely think the faction can win I don't know, but you should reveal his identity then we can both return to the TA and win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huu View Post
    Im not a freedom fighter yet but i can still help you find jet.

    Koh - Most likely smellerbee or some other recruit.
    Pathik - My personal favorite for beeing the last fire nation member.
    Yangchen - Most likely jet.


    I recomend that we lynch yangchen today.
    -vote Yangchen
    Uh, Koh already claimed FN, dude. Read the thread. If Koh is FN then Pathik can't be the last FN, though I note your eagerness to exclude him from being Jet.

    I also find it extremely unlikely that you're not a freedom fighter given that you claimed on Day 1 and it is now Day 5. Your eagerness to lynch Yang combined with the message in the night chat leads me to believe Yang is not Jet and that you guys are trying to get him misslynched.

    Quote Originally Posted by Huu View Post
    Hama's reveal actually makes no sence. Why would hama reveal himself if he doesn't know if the freedom fighters have recruited smellerbee or not? I think hama is jet trying to act like a recruit so he wont be lynched or jailed tonight.

    I don't think hama has ever been a earth citizen since he didn't understand the earth citizen rolecard thing.
    Duh. It is obvious they don't have Smellerbee already. Why else would they go to the trouble of trying to hide themselves from me? if they had Smellerbee they wouldn't need to because my win condition would be irreversible. The fact that they are hiding proves they don't have Smellerbee yet.

    In reference to your last line, I don't even know what you're talking about. When did I "not understand the rolecard thing". Post quotes plox.

    You are almost certainly one of them.
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    Poll: ►►Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Jin Wei View Post
    Well first things first anyway.

    I spoke with the GM last night, primarily due to wei jin's claim about the cult. It is not gamethrowing for the cultists to give up their team, so long as it benefits them personally. In other words...

    Cultists who are not Jet/Smellerbee, it is entirely allowed for you to out your leaders and allow me to jail execute them tonight SO LONG AS IT BENEFITS YOU. Do this and WE WIN. That's right, You, Me, ALL of TA, WIN
    In that case.

    I was recruited last night, and given access to the night chat. I am Pipsqueak. I have not been told who Jet is or how many other cultists there are.

    There is only one message in our night chat. It reads:

    YOUR MINE NOW

    by Jet Today at 1:50 am
    IF YOUR READING THIS I'VE KEPT YOU FROM THE OTHERS TIL WE TRUST YOU

    IF I WANT TO REVEEL I WILL SAY I AM USING MY PHONE

    BYE


    Jet

    Posts: 37
    Join date: 2013-10-09


    I note that it says Jet has made 37 posts yet there is only one visible in the forum. I also note the time-stamp on the post which is approximately 15 hrs ago.

    I also note the incorrect grammar for the word "your". This is a mistake that I have seen Yangchen make several times, however it seems like an obvious fail and I wonder if Jet was trying to set Yang up.

    I am all for finding and killing Jet and returning to the TA thankyou muchly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koh View Post
    I propose that with only 1 remaining FireNation, TeamAvatar is too powerful as long as Zuko is alive. It is in the best interest for the FreedomFighters and Iroh to work with the FireNation for at least today. I ask each of you to vote to lynch zuko. FF you will retain a plurality vote even if we kill one of you every night. Iroh, it is definately in your best interest to kill zuko before he kills you to become the blue spirit. Right now TA has 4 people in its voting pool and they pretty much know who is TA and who isn't. You won't be revealing anything if you cast your vote on Zuko. If Zuko isn't lynched today, a TA win is a sure thing. Sokka almost certainly encouraged zuko last night so he will be able to jail and execute two people tonight.
    -vote Jin Wei
    Lol wtf

    -vote Koh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyoshi Warrior #3 View Post
    N1 Momo
    N2 Kyoshi
    N3 skipped action
    LOL wow how did I miss this

    I think it was because I thought you had renounced your encouraged feedback, Kuruk.

    I found the post that made me think that:

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuruk View Post
    2- I was rb n1 by random. I claimed encouraged to make it look like I was not a tpr. (I hoped the mafia would say no power role would claimed encouraged) After the n2 role block I figured they were just playing it safe.) D3 I made an effort to make myself look a bit more like scum trying to control the town. Also pushing the argument to heal lion instead of jailing for protection I hoped would shake the katara trail off me. Obviously I failed or the mafia thought I was the other tpr claiming encouraged as a gambit.
    Here it looks like you're saying you made up the feedback, but I see it can also be interpreted as you explaining why you decided to go public with it.

    Well then since nobody is counterclaiming Kuruk, his Katara is to be believed which means KW3's claim doesn't make any sense at all anymore.

    -vote Kyoshi Warrior #3
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    Poll: ►►Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender◄◄

    What you are suggesting, Kuruk, does not match what I recall Kw3 stating.

    Let me review KW3's stated night actions.
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    Poll: ►►Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender◄◄

    Wait whatttttt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Due View Post
    KW3 and Kuruk's fight is based on bad evidence, but I feel it's town v town.

    Let's concentrate our energies on finding the last two scum.
    Uhhhh why would a town be pretending to be Sokka?
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    Poll: ►►Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender◄◄

    tl;dr

    Kw3 is Sokka

    Wan Shi TONY is _____ something scum
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    Poll: ►►Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender◄◄

    Quote Originally Posted by Hama View Post
    -vote Wan Shi Tony
    LOL

    I did too oops.

    -vote Wan Shi Tong


    Wan Shi Tony, how funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wan Shi Tong View Post
    Aa for n1 I encouraged Due because he seemed like a legit town player and was one of my stromgest reads at that time.
    Lol.

    Didn't Kuruk already say he faked the encouraged claim on n1?
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    Poll: ►►Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender◄◄

    -vote Wan Shi Tony
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin Wei View Post
    Seriously though, either you or the person I jailed last night is lying. Debating outing them.
    I had Kw3 pegged as Sokka pre-claim so I honestly believe his claim.

    I think whoever you jailed last night lied about being Sokka.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin Wei View Post
    Actually he wasn't the one who claimed it ;) we have ourselves a lead.
    I was just about to post the same thing when I realised your posts didn't add up.

    Who did you jail last night?

    I had just assumed it was Kw3 all along.
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    I'm glad you claimed, KW3, I realised you were Sokka yesterday when you said Sokka would probably encourage Zuko last night and that you knew who Zuko was in a separate post.

    It also wasn't too subtle when Jin Wei tried to slot you in as a "possible execute suspect" post Kuruk/katara reveal, because he neglected to have you on the list initially but didn't explain why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuruk View Post
    Regardless he had my role pegged before any other player and he made moves to keep me alive.
    What do you mean by this? Did he communicate to you that he knew you were Katara? That might explain why you keep getting role-blocked.
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    The only suspicious thing I can think of about Pathik is his Players of the Hour. Target 1 was the Cabbage Merchant and Target 2 was Zuko. Yet, his objective analysis was so flawless that we could never blame him for that because he explained everything along the way. But it makes me wonder, if he tries so hard, and is so good, maybe he just chose people that would look suspicious once analysed. Given my impression of his abilities, I would have expected him to net some serious scum (not half scum like Zuko and Mrs Cabbage). Otherwise, he's played a perfect game. Due, I just think is Iroh.
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    But like I couldn't figure out with you, what could the motivation be to fake role-blocked at this stage of the game?

    I was role-blocked. You say you were role-blocked.

    Which is even more confusing. Because I thought Due was Iroh so why would he lie about being role-blocked? But could Due have been role-blocked by Sokka, and me and you by Consorts?
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    So I guess against the odds you weren't lying, which means the Mafia does have a Fire mage and that Fire mage did happen to become a second consort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuruk View Post
    I hate the lack of reason with your vote. Can you give some leads WITH reason to them?
    The lack of reason for unvoting?

    Because you claimed Katara, and it would be suicide to do so if you're not because you'll be immediately counterclaimed.
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    Poll: ►►Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender◄◄

    -vote unvote
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    Poll: ►►Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender◄◄

    @Yang, what do you make of 2 role-block claims. 1) from me 2) from Kuruk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sangok View Post
    I understand what you're feeling, however Wei Jin has not yet given a chance to be active and it's only been about 12 hours since the day opening? Something like that.
    21 hrs lol.
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    I'm so confused.

    Why has Kuruk claimed role-blocked 3 nights in a row, even the night he was bussed?

    Why is there only 1 role-block claim from yesterday, and yet two today? Fire Mage seems the only possibility that doesn't = Kuruk lying.
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    Unless Sokka encouraged a Consort??????

    Jin Wei, you said you jailed Sokka. Did she say what she's been up to?

    Aside from Kuruk lying, the only other option I can think of is 2 consorts, and that seems unlikely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koh View Post
    Katara couldn't have frozen last night unless sokka had empowered her the night before
    Ohhhhh good point.

    -vote Kuruk


    Not sure why he's lying, but he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huu View Post
    You and Hama was roleblocked? i think one of you is lying.
    Well I sure didn't lie about mine.

    So either Kuruk's lying, or Katara's been running around freezing people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin Wei View Post
    The only person I specifically WANT dead is hama. He survived solely by virtue of the gm mechanics answer because he's so arrogant it makes me vomit. Also he apparently entire misread who zuko was yesterday.
    Huh?

    I told you in the jail-chat that you were Jin Wei. I intentionally pushed for you (jin Wei) to be a Zuko jail target to give you total protection and anonymity (because obviously you wouldn't jail and execute yourself).

    I neglected to mention the real reason you didn't kill me, because I thought the GM might find it embarassing, and they are otherwise running a great game.

    I don't even know why you revealed.
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    Poll: ►►Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender◄◄

    We arrived upon 2 options at end of Day yesterday.
    1. Zuko killing Jin Wei
    2. Zuko protecting Lion Turtle.

    Jin Wei is obviously alive.
    Lion Turtle obviously wasn't protected.
    Zuko obviously didn't kill anybody else.

    So what exactly did Zuko do last night?

    Ps: I was role-blocked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koh View Post
    why is katara locked on you?

    If that's the case, why not have everyone vote for jailor to protect lion turtle then katara can heal someone that the FN wont know ahead of time.

    As it stand FN would know katara is on you and potentially zuko protecting town vote target
    Agree.

    Protect LionTurtle
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