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[QUOTE=S-FM oooo;889090]I trust in Stealth to at least attempt to balance the game

You should too. "All roles are NAI" is bullshit[/QUOTE]

Are you really trying to argue this?
Ok. People made the roles, the roles that they make will be implemented into the game.
We’ve seen people flip have we not? The role doesn’t change. The role stay’s the same but the alignment can be anything.
Like let’s say someone made the following role:
[I][B]During the day you can reveal to be an Innocent Child
During the night you can check a player and see their alignment
You know how many scum were on the main wagon
[/B][/I]
This isn’t going to instantly be Town.
The alignments are RNG’ed.
Stop trying to argue something that’s inaccurate.

I also want to point out.
Both you and jolly seem to think that the roles aren’t always RNG.
Both you and Jolly Claim you have roles you don’t want to claim and that they can “confirm” themselves.
(Or at least you said the “Confirm” part)
IMO it’s quite a bold move assuming I’m right and your both scum. Also makes me believe Unfunny is Town and your buddy is Cats/Z AKA someone who’s low activity, allowing you guys to use false role logic and try and use that as an excuse as to why you guys shouldn’t be lynched.
You must have such a good role that Jolly is willing to sacrifice himself for you.

Originally Posted by S-FM oooo

I trust in Stealth to at least attempt to balance the game

You should too. "All roles are NAI" is bullshit

Are you really trying to argue this?
Ok. People made the roles, the roles that they make will be implemented into the game.
We’ve seen people flip have we not? The role doesn’t change. The role stay’s the same but the alignment can be anything.
Like let’s say someone made the following role:
During the day you can reveal to be an Innocent Child
During the night you can check a player and see their alignment
You know how many scum were on the main wagon

This isn’t going to instantly be Town.
The alignments are RNG’ed.
Stop trying to argue something that’s inaccurate.

I also want to point out.
Both you and jolly seem to think that the roles aren’t always RNG.
Both you and Jolly Claim you have roles you don’t want to claim and that they can “confirm” themselves.
(Or at least you said the “Confirm” part)
IMO it’s quite a bold move assuming I’m right and your both scum. Also makes me believe Unfunny is Town and your buddy is Cats/Z AKA someone who’s low activity, allowing you guys to use false role logic and try and use that as an excuse as to why you guys shouldn’t be lynched.
You must have such a good role that Jolly is willing to sacrifice himself for you.

If someone wants to argue and say that Me, Piss Sun and Chernobyl are all mafia, then by all means someone make a case on that.
But I ain’t scum and I’m almost 100% they aren’t scum either.

If someone wants to argue and say that Me, Piss Sun and Chernobyl are all mafia, then by all means someone make a case on that.
But I ain’t scum and I’m almost 100% they aren’t scum either.

Reason I don’t believe my actions are NAI is because I feel Scum!Me would have probably gave the Nut to mafia members or a strong town player to buff/hurt them. (Although I didn’t know what the Nut did, my point still stands)

Reason I don’t believe my actions are NAI is because I feel Scum!Me would have probably gave the Nut to mafia members or a strong town player to buff/hurt them. (Although I didn’t know what the Nut did, my point still stands)

[QUOTE=S-FM oooo;889082]2 should be: Incredibly unlikely to be neutral scum[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=S-FM oooo;889083]3, not 2[/QUOTE]

So then Team Scum still applies yes?
Or are you saying that your role is incredibly unlikely to be aligned with any sort of scum. (even though a role isn’t alignment indicate)
Like Roles in this game don’t mean jack shit regarding alignment.
It’s what you do with the role that could potentially determine the alignment.
Like I gave Nut to Piss Sun and Chernobyl.
Now that’s for you to tell me if it’s scum or town indicative.
I believe it’s Town indicative but that’s a bias take because I know I’m Town so OFC I’d think that. So you tell me what you think. Is it Scum or Town Indicative and why.

Originally Posted by S-FM oooo

2 should be: Incredibly unlikely to be neutral scum

Originally Posted by S-FM oooo

3, not 2

So then Team Scum still applies yes?
Or are you saying that your role is incredibly unlikely to be aligned with any sort of scum. (even though a role isn’t alignment indicate)
Like Roles in this game don’t mean jack shit regarding alignment.
It’s what you do with the role that could potentially determine the alignment.
Like I gave Nut to Piss Sun and Chernobyl.
Now that’s for you to tell me if it’s scum or town indicative.
I believe it’s Town indicative but that’s a bias take because I know I’m Town so OFC I’d think that. So you tell me what you think. Is it Scum or Town Indicative and why.

[QUOTE=S-FM oooo;889076]Are you sure you want to do this? I am confirmable NOT Aztec.[/QUOTE]

I already said I think your scum.
It doesn’t matter if you are or aren’t Ascetic because a scum lynch is still a scum lynched.
We also haven’t even heard from Z today either.

Originally Posted by S-FM oooo

Are you sure you want to do this? I am confirmable NOT Aztec.

I already said I think your scum.
It doesn’t matter if you are or aren’t Ascetic because a scum lynch is still a scum lynched.
We also haven’t even heard from Z today either.

The teams most likely oooo, Jolly and one of Unlucky/Z/Cats.

The teams most likely oooo, Jolly and one of Unlucky/Z/Cats.

[vote]oooo[/vote]

I ain’t playin your game Jolly.

-vote oooo

I ain’t playin your game Jolly.

[QUOTE=S-FM oooo;889011]Thats a lot of town supports, someone is lying[/QUOTE]

The fact both you and Jolly think this makes me believe you two are on the scum team.
The question is with or without Unfunny.
Like every role in this game is NAI.
I’m not sure why people aren’t getting that.

Originally Posted by S-FM oooo

Thats a lot of town supports, someone is lying

The fact both you and Jolly think this makes me believe you two are on the scum team.
The question is with or without Unfunny.
Like every role in this game is NAI.
I’m not sure why people aren’t getting that.

[QUOTE=S-FM oooo;889071]Then flush them out. I could agree to their elimination instead of yours[/QUOTE]

But we don’t even know who the Ascetic is.

Originally Posted by S-FM oooo

Then flush them out. I could agree to their elimination instead of yours

But we don’t even know who the Ascetic is.

[QUOTE=S-FM oooo;889067]Neither unfunny nor I are Aztec.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=S-FM oooo;889068]NOW WHAT SPIDER MONKEY

NOW WHAT[/QUOTE]

What what in the butt. Lol.
But yeah, Least I can narrow down who Ascetic is. But if they aren’t Z and aren’t claiming then IMO they are probably mafia trying to hide it.

Originally Posted by S-FM oooo

Neither unfunny nor I are Aztec.

Originally Posted by S-FM oooo

NOW WHAT SPIDER MONKEY

NOW WHAT

What what in the butt. Lol.
But yeah, Least I can narrow down who Ascetic is. But if they aren’t Z and aren’t claiming then IMO they are probably mafia trying to hide it.

[QUOTE=S-FM Chernobyl;889061]That colored text...

Jolly Rancher replaced by ZKL3DJ?[/QUOTE]

Then who’s Aztec?

Originally Posted by S-FM Chernobyl

That colored text...

Jolly Rancher replaced by ZKL3DJ?

Then who’s Aztec?

[QUOTE=S-FM Jolly Rancher;889059]I think they're just busy for reasons I can't say in the game.

Though I don't think its town or scum-indicative; its NAI at best.

Honestly, it would be one of my possible considerations as an alternate option for a lynch today.

Depends on how their posting comes up later on.[/QUOTE]

You had them higher then oooo and Unfunny but they are the alternative option?
Buddy. Show me those reads of yours.

Originally Posted by S-FM Jolly Rancher

I think they're just busy for reasons I can't say in the game.

Though I don't think its town or scum-indicative; its NAI at best.

Honestly, it would be one of my possible considerations as an alternate option for a lynch today.

Depends on how their posting comes up later on.

You had them higher then oooo and Unfunny but they are the alternative option?
Buddy. Show me those reads of yours.

[QUOTE=S-FM Jolly Rancher;889054][url]https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/47427-S-FM-307-KRC-AGAIN!?p=888835#post888835[/url]

Linking it because it has relevant quotes in it.[/QUOTE]

So like do you still stand the same way?
But just me lower then Chernobyl? Or?

Originally Posted by S-FM Jolly Rancher

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...835#post888835

Linking it because it has relevant quotes in it.

So like do you still stand the same way?
But just me lower then Chernobyl? Or?

[QUOTE=S-FM Jolly Rancher;889057]I don't like that you're talking about it ("it" being alignments being RNG'ed) while implying that people have potentially very bad roles for evil alignments.

It has a bit of overlap in a hypocritical way.

You literally do it on the post [B][I]just before[/I][/B] the quote above:



You can't have the idea that "hey this person's role is bad" as some sort of argument to make a push against someone to lynch while also arguing role-specifics aren't alignment-indicative --- [COLOR="#FFA07A"]we're here to lynch scum [I][B]not[/B][/I] who's mechanically liable[/COLOR]; [B][I][COLOR="#EE82EE"]Especially if alignments are indeed RNG'ed.[/COLOR][/I][/B]

Those two ideas or arguments you're making can't co-exist from my point of view, and its possible I may not be explaining it clearly here.[/QUOTE]

Never said my Mooing doesn’t hurt Town it just hurts scum more.
If Aztec is mafia Aligned I potentially just saved the game did I not?
I haven’t been hypocritical on anything.

Originally Posted by S-FM Jolly Rancher

I don't like that you're talking about it ("it" being alignments being RNG'ed) while implying that people have potentially very bad roles for evil alignments.

It has a bit of overlap in a hypocritical way.

You literally do it on the post just before the quote above:



You can't have the idea that "hey this person's role is bad" as some sort of argument to make a push against someone to lynch while also arguing role-specifics aren't alignment-indicative --- we're here to lynch scum not who's mechanically liable; Especially if alignments are indeed RNG'ed.

Those two ideas or arguments you're making can't co-exist from my point of view, and its possible I may not be explaining it clearly here.

Never said my Mooing doesn’t hurt Town it just hurts scum more.
If Aztec is mafia Aligned I potentially just saved the game did I not?
I haven’t been hypocritical on anything.

[QUOTE=S-FM Jolly Rancher;889052]1) Okay. But in a hypothetical !Scum PSM theory, it must explain most of their actions or posts.

2) "Consensus" is generally reffering to the town agreeing upon someone to mislynch.

If the "there is no mafia" suspicions are true, then its entirely possible there are solo neut evil alignment roles out there that are meant to cause chaos of some sort in order to live to the end

In your case, you don't have any KPN so you would need to rely on the town getting a lynch each day. So its quite concerning to me that, among other reasons I've stated, it feels like you're just here to ask questions about what people think about others, so that you can just position yourself in the future to be aligned with the general "reads" or "consensus" that the town has.

3) I specifically said "[COLOR="#EE82EE"]Now this I can't say is intentional[/COLOR]" for a reason. As stated above, in a hypothetical !Scum PSM theory, it must explain most of their actions or posts.

4) I don't necessarily think revealing targets is always a good idea. I haven't said who I've been targeting since n1 for reasons I've held secret. Its quite possible other roles have those same reasons. Worse comes to worse, you can just put whoever you targeted in the LW.

5) I never said that. I was highlighting your quote there that implied or believed it in relationship to an argument I was making, though MYLO was never related to my argument specifically.

[COLOR="#EE82EE"]What makes you think that in a 11-player game, where 2 towns and 1 non-town died, we're suddenly at MYLO?[/COLOR]

Assuming a ~30% cannot win with town rule, then about 3 players are against town.

As for whether Lemon could or couldn't win with town I couldn't tell (because of the strange blue color), but he was non-town.

Let's just generously say he was a neut that could hypothetically win with town, which is not a member of the "3 players who can't win with town".

That means

11 (original # of players) - 3 (Cannot-win-with-towns that are alive) = 9
9 - 1 (Lemon death) = 8
8 - 2 (town deaths) = 6 towns left

With 6 towns left

and 3 evils that can't win with town

Unless the town night-kills one of its own tonight, then at most we're losing 2 towns by D4 in worst case scenario if we mislynch today.

Which makes it 4 (town) v 3 (various evils).

So no, its not MYLO. It will be tomorrow, with my guess.[/QUOTE]

MYLO is different then LYLO. Just want to point that out before I respond to anything else.

1)I mean I’m not entirely sure how scum me would play but if you saying my “actions and posts” is more scum Aligned id like you to point out why it doesn’t or is unlikely to come from a Town PoV.
Heck, Choose up to 3 quotes of mine and explain why they come from Scum PoV over Town PoV.
2)Ok, why do you think I re-evaluated? To make sure I wouldn’t get a ML again. (Despite me probably would have pushed on Bibble because I still had him as my strongest scum read)
Also, you think that this is a neutral based game only and there is no evil faction team?
Or are you just unsure what the case is?
3)Then I’m assuming you just pointed it out for the sake of pointing it out?
Like you just had a “Theory” and nothing really Confident but still direct it at me.
Fine. I mean I can see it coming from either alignment so that’s irrelevant right now.
4)Not always, but sometimes it’s beneficial for Town and the fact they haven’t claimed targets but claimed their role shows allot.
Like you didn’t claim your role which is fine.
But usually when someone claims a “Protective” role. They usually say who they protected as there isn’t really a reason not to.
5)Ok
6)Well hold on. We have Me, You, Cats, oooo, Unfunny, Chernobyl, Piss Sun and Z.
That’s 8 not 9.
So 5 (Town) - 3 (Scum) AKA MYLO
Wow! Incredible!

Now I can’t figure out if you actually didn’t realize this or your scum trying to pull a game winning ML on me.

Originally Posted by S-FM Jolly Rancher

1) Okay. But in a hypothetical !Scum PSM theory, it must explain most of their actions or posts.

2) "Consensus" is generally reffering to the town agreeing upon someone to mislynch.

If the "there is no mafia" suspicions are true, then its entirely possible there are solo neut evil alignment roles out there that are meant to cause chaos of some sort in order to live to the end

In your case, you don't have any KPN so you would need to rely on the town getting a lynch each day. So its quite concerning to me that, among other reasons I've stated, it feels like you're just here to ask questions about what people think about others, so that you can just position yourself in the future to be aligned with the general "reads" or "consensus" that the town has.

3) I specifically said "Now this I can't say is intentional" for a reason. As stated above, in a hypothetical !Scum PSM theory, it must explain most of their actions or posts.

4) I don't necessarily think revealing targets is always a good idea. I haven't said who I've been targeting since n1 for reasons I've held secret. Its quite possible other roles have those same reasons. Worse comes to worse, you can just put whoever you targeted in the LW.

5) I never said that. I was highlighting your quote there that implied or believed it in relationship to an argument I was making, though MYLO was never related to my argument specifically.

What makes you think that in a 11-player game, where 2 towns and 1 non-town died, we're suddenly at MYLO?

Assuming a ~30% cannot win with town rule, then about 3 players are against town.

As for whether Lemon could or couldn't win with town I couldn't tell (because of the strange blue color), but he was non-town.

Let's just generously say he was a neut that could hypothetically win with town, which is not a member of the "3 players who can't win with town".

That means

11 (original # of players) - 3 (Cannot-win-with-towns that are alive) = 9
9 - 1 (Lemon death) = 8
8 - 2 (town deaths) = 6 towns left

With 6 towns left

and 3 evils that can't win with town

Unless the town night-kills one of its own tonight, then at most we're losing 2 towns by D4 in worst case scenario if we mislynch today.

Which makes it 4 (town) v 3 (various evils).

So no, its not MYLO. It will be tomorrow, with my guess.

MYLO is different then LYLO. Just want to point that out before I respond to anything else.

1)I mean I’m not entirely sure how scum me would play but if you saying my “actions and posts” is more scum Aligned id like you to point out why it doesn’t or is unlikely to come from a Town PoV.
Heck, Choose up to 3 quotes of mine and explain why they come from Scum PoV over Town PoV.
2)Ok, why do you think I re-evaluated? To make sure I wouldn’t get a ML again. (Despite me probably would have pushed on Bibble because I still had him as my strongest scum read)
Also, you think that this is a neutral based game only and there is no evil faction team?
Or are you just unsure what the case is?
3)Then I’m assuming you just pointed it out for the sake of pointing it out?
Like you just had a “Theory” and nothing really Confident but still direct it at me.
Fine. I mean I can see it coming from either alignment so that’s irrelevant right now.
4)Not always, but sometimes it’s beneficial for Town and the fact they haven’t claimed targets but claimed their role shows allot.
Like you didn’t claim your role which is fine.
But usually when someone claims a “Protective” role. They usually say who they protected as there isn’t really a reason not to.
5)Ok
6)Well hold on. We have Me, You, Cats, oooo, Unfunny, Chernobyl, Piss Sun and Z.
That’s 8 not 9.
So 5 (Town) - 3 (Scum) AKA MYLO
Wow! Incredible!

Now I can’t figure out if you actually didn’t realize this or your scum trying to pull a game winning ML on me.

Z still hasn’t posted yet. So it’s either him or someone’s just not claiming/scum Aligned Kill.

Z still hasn’t posted yet. So it’s either him or someone’s just not claiming/scum Aligned Kill.

Also is anyone claiming to have shot Bibble?

Also is anyone claiming to have shot Bibble?

I only quoted the alterations.
So I hope the host let’s this one slide.

I only quoted the alterations.
So I hope the host let’s this one slide.

It stops all ALTERATIONS which can be the following: A poison that will kill a player the following day, Night Chats that are not a Faction Night Chat, a current event or mechanic that is happening due to another rolecard. TLDR: Basically ANYTHING that isn't an instant night action that doesn't do anything after it happens. BEWARE: Definitive Maximus Copernicus Legendary Drug Dealer Hard Cocaine in the Suburbs' current algorithms placed into the Host will also dissapear. You may not know what the hell I'm talking about.
(I may or may not have quoted most of this directly from my Rolecard, but I didn’t quote all of it so I believe I’m safe)

It stops all ALTERATIONS which can be the following: A poison that will kill a player the following day, Night Chats that are not a Faction Night Chat, a current event or mechanic that is happening due to another rolecard. TLDR: Basically ANYTHING that isn't an instant night action that doesn't do anything after it happens. BEWARE: Definitive Maximus Copernicus Legendary Drug Dealer Hard Cocaine in the Suburbs' current algorithms placed into the Host will also dissapear. You may not know what the hell I'm talking about.
(I may or may not have quoted most of this directly from my Rolecard, but I didn’t quote all of it so I believe I’m safe)

[QUOTE=S-FM Chernobyl;889036]I have a colossal amounts of provision. Idk what to do with this info. What if this message is some hint to win?[/QUOTE]

When I was turned to a cow there was this thing where it nullifies some “Host” thing or whatever it is that they said.
I’m assuming though it might have something to do with that.

Originally Posted by S-FM Chernobyl

I have a colossal amounts of provision. Idk what to do with this info. What if this message is some hint to win?

When I was turned to a cow there was this thing where it nullifies some “Host” thing or whatever it is that they said.
I’m assuming though it might have something to do with that.

[QUOTE=S-FM Jolly Rancher;889035]Probably because of the "Jack Of All Trades" role that Bibble had. It mentioned a cow or something as one of the abilities. He probably audited Pig Spider Monkey into a cow role on the night that he died.[/QUOTE]

Yes, I mentioned this already.

Originally Posted by S-FM Jolly Rancher

Probably because of the "Jack Of All Trades" role that Bibble had. It mentioned a cow or something as one of the abilities. He probably audited Pig Spider Monkey into a cow role on the night that he died.

Yes, I mentioned this already.

[QUOTE=S-FM oooo;888980]I don't like Jolly Rancher

But seeking a thunderdome is more likely town than scum

[vote]S-FM Pig Spider Monkey[/vote]

Sure why not[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=S-FM Jolly Rancher;889031]I should also mention:

The wraith I spoke with earlier has specifics in their role card that arguably can make them a town protector (though not in the strictest sense).

[I][B]The way I see it, there's way too many "Supports" or "support-capable" roles (either through protection or not) for them to all be town.[/B][/I]

Don't forget, there was that Jack of All trades that flipped town

And there was that "Mafia Universe Modbot Glitch" role that seemed to have potential for evil that ended up flipping town (Ironically because their ability got themselves lynched lol)[/QUOTE]

LOOOOOOOOOL
Are you actually using that as a reason against me? LMFAO.
Bruh. You make a role and it becomes someone else’s role In the game.
All roles could have been support roles if everyone made support roles.

Originally Posted by S-FM oooo

I don't like Jolly Rancher

But seeking a thunderdome is more likely town than scum

-vote S-FM Pig Spider Monkey

Sure why not

Originally Posted by S-FM Jolly Rancher

I should also mention:

The wraith I spoke with earlier has specifics in their role card that arguably can make them a town protector (though not in the strictest sense).

The way I see it, there's way too many "Supports" or "support-capable" roles (either through protection or not) for them to all be town.

Don't forget, there was that Jack of All trades that flipped town

And there was that "Mafia Universe Modbot Glitch" role that seemed to have potential for evil that ended up flipping town (Ironically because their ability got themselves lynched lol)

LOOOOOOOOOL
Are you actually using that as a reason against me? LMFAO.
Bruh. You make a role and it becomes someone else’s role In the game.
All roles could have been support roles if everyone made support roles.

[QUOTE=S-FM Jolly Rancher;889027]1. I don't think there's much basis in believing he's town, as with a game that anything can be submitted, [B]alignments may be necessarily RNG'ed[/B] with a few adjustments for a rough balance.

Not to mention, roles aren't supposed to be balanced for any specific faction.

If you were to argue him being some neutral that can win with town, that would sound more believable in my opinion. Though I still wouldn't exactly agree with it.

2. I'm not going to elaborate on the details of my role.

I will say though that what I've said before about my role (such as the ability to give guns & a 1-time any-time gun) is true.

I'm not necessarily a support role in terms of "I can prevent death" and, but I can help others through the means of giving such guns.

Also I'm never going to disclose how I give away my guns (namely the any-time gun) without a lot of consideration.

What I do know is that since players flip their role card (along with their submission), then someone alive right now knows exactly what my role does based on hints I've given before. Though we can't really pin that down since we can't discuss our own submitted roles.[/QUOTE]

But I suppose you didn’t like when I mentioned [B]Bolded[/B] right?
I was talking to Unfunny about that I believe. Probably said it another time before then as well.

Originally Posted by S-FM Jolly Rancher

1. I don't think there's much basis in believing he's town, as with a game that anything can be submitted, alignments may be necessarily RNG'ed with a few adjustments for a rough balance.

Not to mention, roles aren't supposed to be balanced for any specific faction.

If you were to argue him being some neutral that can win with town, that would sound more believable in my opinion. Though I still wouldn't exactly agree with it.

2. I'm not going to elaborate on the details of my role.

I will say though that what I've said before about my role (such as the ability to give guns & a 1-time any-time gun) is true.

I'm not necessarily a support role in terms of "I can prevent death" and, but I can help others through the means of giving such guns.

Also I'm never going to disclose how I give away my guns (namely the any-time gun) without a lot of consideration.

What I do know is that since players flip their role card (along with their submission), then someone alive right now knows exactly what my role does based on hints I've given before. Though we can't really pin that down since we can't discuss our own submitted roles.

But I suppose you didn’t like when I mentioned Bolded right?
I was talking to Unfunny about that I believe. Probably said it another time before then as well.

[QUOTE=S-FM oooo;888980]I don't like Jolly Rancher

But seeking a thunderdome is more likely town than scum

[vote]S-FM Pig Spider Monkey[/vote]

Sure why not[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=S-FM oooo;889017]I missed this

Why would you use your cow ability to nullify everyone elses abilities? That's super duper anti-town[/QUOTE]

Scum can have roles that can give them special kills/benefits such as special chats. So I wanted to get rid of Scum’s utility.
Read Aztec Invader. If the person who has that role is Mafia Aligned it hurts us all.

Originally Posted by S-FM oooo

I don't like Jolly Rancher

But seeking a thunderdome is more likely town than scum

-vote S-FM Pig Spider Monkey

Sure why not

Originally Posted by S-FM oooo

I missed this

Why would you use your cow ability to nullify everyone elses abilities? That's super duper anti-town

Scum can have roles that can give them special kills/benefits such as special chats. So I wanted to get rid of Scum’s utility.
Read Aztec Invader. If the person who has that role is Mafia Aligned it hurts us all.

[QUOTE=S-FM Unfunny;889010]My role will sound like I am not town but my alignment is town

My role is Bringer of dreams and Nightmares. Alignment:town[/QUOTE]

Again, Roles aren’t alignment indicative.

Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny

My role will sound like I am not town but my alignment is town

My role is Bringer of dreams and Nightmares. Alignment:town

Again, Roles aren’t alignment indicative.

[QUOTE=S-FM oooo;888980]I don't like Jolly Rancher

But seeking a thunderdome is more likely town than scum

[vote]S-FM Pig Spider Monkey[/vote]

Sure why not[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=S-FM Unfunny;888986][Vote]S-FM Pig Spider Monkey[/vote]

Pressure here is good. I would like to hear from him[/QUOTE]

Not surprising that you both vote me considering I want 1 of you to be lynched today.
Still don’t have a readslist from Jolly though. As far as I can tell I’m his only scum read.
However the fact I’m not hammered probably means Scum is voting me which I’m not surprised lol.
I’m just trying to figure out if Jolly is Town voting me here or is Scum trying to save their buddy.

Originally Posted by S-FM oooo

I don't like Jolly Rancher

But seeking a thunderdome is more likely town than scum

-vote S-FM Pig Spider Monkey

Sure why not

Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny

-vote S-FM Pig Spider Monkey

Pressure here is good. I would like to hear from him

Not surprising that you both vote me considering I want 1 of you to be lynched today.
Still don’t have a readslist from Jolly though. As far as I can tell I’m his only scum read.
However the fact I’m not hammered probably means Scum is voting me which I’m not surprised lol.
I’m just trying to figure out if Jolly is Town voting me here or is Scum trying to save their buddy.

[QUOTE=S-FM Jolly Rancher;888970][COLOR="#FFFFFF"]Going to refer to Pig Spider Monkey as PSM from now on for simplicity's sake.[/COLOR]


[Spoiler=Point 1]


[COLOR="#AFEEEE"]Demonstrates disliking of low-activity...[/COLOR]



[COLOR="#AFEEEE"]Only to attack Bibble as soon as Bibble starts posting a fair bit.[/COLOR][/spoiler]
[HR][/HR]
[Spoiler=Point 2]



















[COLOR="#FFA07A"][SIZE=4]Repeatedly shows signs of collecting information from others based on their reads. He seems way too focused on the idea of a "consensus" than actual scum-hunting here.[/SIZE][/COLOR]

[COLOR="#AFEEEE"]Normally, I would allow questions like that if they're asked to a few select people.[/COLOR] [COLOR="#FFA07A"]But here he's just asking [/COLOR][COLOR="#FF0000"]EVERYONE (Not just through the post above but throughout the game!)[/COLOR] as if he's ready to try and manipulate us through "consensus".

[COLOR="#EE82EE"]Please keep note this doesn't show case all of his posts that inquire for the same or similar pieces/types of information.[/COLOR]
[/spoiler]
[HR][/HR]
[Spoiler= Scummy Irony?]






[COLOR="#EE82EE"]Now this I can't say is intentional but[/COLOR]....[COLOR="#FFA07A"]its possible if PSM is scum here[/COLOR] [COLOR="#FFA500"]then all he's doing right here is to try and repeat one of Bibble's posts since he flipped town in order to look like town.[/COLOR]
[/Spoiler]
[HR][/HR]


[COLOR="#EE82EE"][SIZE=3]??? What's the point of this given what you said earlier ???[/SIZE][/COLOR]
[HR][/HR]
[spoiler=Point 3]





[SIZE=3][COLOR="#FFFFFF"]So let me get this straight: You voted Birdie to start a train and do "pressure" earlier[/COLOR][COLOR="#FFA07A"] and yet you're not doing that so far on D3 even though its quite obvious you're going to choose either of them? Or are you leaving this as a setup to saying (in the future)[/COLOR][COLOR="#FF0000"] "Oh one of them must be town and the other scum, so if we accidentally lynch the town today, then tomorrow we'll lynch the REAL scum"[/COLOR][/SIZE]
[/spoiler]
[HR][/HR]


Alright. I think this puts my thoughts and feelings in a rather cohesive manner, if not then I hope you can understand what I'm getting at here.

I honestly think PSM is just being manipulative. Don't forget, [COLOR="#FFA07A"]Bibble hinted at it earlier[/COLOR]....[/QUOTE]

I don’t accept your Thunderdome because I believe there’s always scum within oooo/Unfunny and neither one of them is you.
You could be scum defending your buddy/buddies being one or both of them but eh.

So let me go over your post here.

1)You left out the fact I started the Birdie wagon due to the fact I wanted to get a wagon going. Yeah I did dislike Bibble, their vote on Birdie felt like scum being opportunistic and wanted to go for the “safe mislynch”.
2)Define what you mean by “consensus”
3)How is me talking about sleeping ANYTHING to do with what Bibble said. If I wanted to appear “Town like Bibble” I wouldn’t have done it like that. Town or Scum. Like it feels your just grabbing stuff and quoting it. Not hard To do. You can make an IC look Bad if your good at it.
(Like Grave Posts and say how you believe it’s bad even if it’s completely BS)
4)My point is to not clear someone based on their role. Unfunny wanting to not say their actions could mean they targeted their scum buddies so that’s why I wanted to know who they targeted. Logically speaking as Mafia Aligned Doctor you want to target your other Mafia buddy so they don’t die.
5)It’s MYLO and Day 3 as you said yourself.
Why TF would I do a similar thing to that of Day 2. One wrong move and it can be game over.


I hope by reading this you realize that you lock voting me today can cost us the game.
All I ask is you consider other options as focusing on one individual only during MYLO is how you lose games.

Originally Posted by S-FM Jolly Rancher

Going to refer to Pig Spider Monkey as PSM from now on for simplicity's sake.

Spoiler : Point 1 :

Demonstrates disliking of low-activity...



Only to attack Bibble as soon as Bibble starts posting a fair bit.

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Spoiler : Point 2 :

Repeatedly shows signs of collecting information from others based on their reads. He seems way too focused on the idea of a "consensus" than actual scum-hunting here.

Normally, I would allow questions like that if they're asked to a few select people. But here he's just asking EVERYONE (Not just through the post above but throughout the game!) as if he's ready to try and manipulate us through "consensus".

Please keep note this doesn't show case all of his posts that inquire for the same or similar pieces/types of information.

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Spoiler : Scummy Irony? :

Now this I can't say is intentional but....its possible if PSM is scum here then all he's doing right here is to try and repeat one of Bibble's posts since he flipped town in order to look like town.

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??? What's the point of this given what you said earlier ???

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Spoiler : Point 3 :

So let me get this straight: You voted Birdie to start a train and do "pressure" earlier and yet you're not doing that so far on D3 even though its quite obvious you're going to choose either of them? Or are you leaving this as a setup to saying (in the future) "Oh one of them must be town and the other scum, so if we accidentally lynch the town today, then tomorrow we'll lynch the REAL scum"

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Alright. I think this puts my thoughts and feelings in a rather cohesive manner, if not then I hope you can understand what I'm getting at here.

I honestly think PSM is just being manipulative. Don't forget, Bibble hinted at it earlier....

I don’t accept your Thunderdome because I believe there’s always scum within oooo/Unfunny and neither one of them is you.
You could be scum defending your buddy/buddies being one or both of them but eh.

So let me go over your post here.

1)You left out the fact I started the Birdie wagon due to the fact I wanted to get a wagon going. Yeah I did dislike Bibble, their vote on Birdie felt like scum being opportunistic and wanted to go for the “safe mislynch”.
2)Define what you mean by “consensus”
3)How is me talking about sleeping ANYTHING to do with what Bibble said. If I wanted to appear “Town like Bibble” I wouldn’t have done it like that. Town or Scum. Like it feels your just grabbing stuff and quoting it. Not hard To do. You can make an IC look Bad if your good at it.
(Like Grave Posts and say how you believe it’s bad even if it’s completely BS)
4)My point is to not clear someone based on their role. Unfunny wanting to not say their actions could mean they targeted their scum buddies so that’s why I wanted to know who they targeted. Logically speaking as Mafia Aligned Doctor you want to target your other Mafia buddy so they don’t die.
5)It’s MYLO and Day 3 as you said yourself.
Why TF would I do a similar thing to that of Day 2. One wrong move and it can be game over.


I hope by reading this you realize that you lock voting me today can cost us the game.
All I ask is you consider other options as focusing on one individual only during MYLO is how you lose games.

Where is everybody?
I go to sleep, wake up and the only one who’s posted is Chernobyl.

Where is everybody?
I go to sleep, wake up and the only one who’s posted is Chernobyl.

[QUOTE=S-FM Unfunny;888951]I am town here. The fact you would think I would be scum with the mods dising me at start is laffable. Day 1 I had to play week and submissive. Day 2 I have to play as Tony the Tiger.

My role has nothing to do with being funny or unfunny. I don’t give a crap if people find me funny. I am basicly a town doc. I hard claim town PR.

Do you think if I was scum I would have alll that going agesnt me at start. So now tell me what makes you town?[/QUOTE]

Pretty sure alignments are RNG’ed.
So your role doesn’t mean anything.
Now you ask what makes me Town.
Well while I don’t have any mechanical evidence on me that proves I’m Town, I can say I’ve been trying to solve all game.
I’ve promoted activity and I have been making night action choices that come more from a town PoV over a Scum PoV.
I gave Piss Sun my Nut N1. And N2 I gave Chernobyl my Nut.
Now I’m a Cow and have no Nut.
So let me ask you this, who did you target N1 and N2 with your Doc ability?

Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny

I am town here. The fact you would think I would be scum with the mods dising me at start is laffable. Day 1 I had to play week and submissive. Day 2 I have to play as Tony the Tiger.

My role has nothing to do with being funny or unfunny. I don’t give a crap if people find me funny. I am basicly a town doc. I hard claim town PR.

Do you think if I was scum I would have alll that going agesnt me at start. So now tell me what makes you town?

Pretty sure alignments are RNG’ed.
So your role doesn’t mean anything.
Now you ask what makes me Town.
Well while I don’t have any mechanical evidence on me that proves I’m Town, I can say I’ve been trying to solve all game.
I’ve promoted activity and I have been making night action choices that come more from a town PoV over a Scum PoV.
I gave Piss Sun my Nut N1. And N2 I gave Chernobyl my Nut.
Now I’m a Cow and have no Nut.
So let me ask you this, who did you target N1 and N2 with your Doc ability?

Also want to point out that from this Lore here:
“Welcome to the dead people corner! In this corner we have the legendary but quite delicious [MENTION=45619]S-FM Lemon Party[/MENTION] ! We found them upon some sort of [B]Aztec[/B] altar... bleeding out lemon juices. Interesting... They were a Decolorator!“

Good chance the Aztec Invader killed Lemon.

Also want to point out that from this Lore here:
“Welcome to the dead people corner! In this corner we have the legendary but quite delicious @S-FM Lemon Party ! We found them upon some sort of Aztec altar... bleeding out lemon juices. Interesting... They were a Decolorator!“

Good chance the Aztec Invader killed Lemon.

[QUOTE=S-FM Cats 2019;888946]Yes[/QUOTE]

What is this in response to?

Originally Posted by S-FM Cats 2019

Yes

What is this in response to?

[QUOTE=S-FM Jolly Rancher;888942]I actually wanna make a gut call here

[vote]S-FM Pig Spider Monkey[/vote]

I'll detail more on this later

Rn I gotta be studying for Chem 107, but I popped in to check the night results and my feedback.[/QUOTE]

Can I have a full readslist from where you currently stand RN?
Or at least your stance regarding oooo and Unfunny.

Originally Posted by S-FM Jolly Rancher

I actually wanna make a gut call here

-vote S-FM Pig Spider Monkey

I'll detail more on this later

Rn I gotta be studying for Chem 107, but I popped in to check the night results and my feedback.

Can I have a full readslist from where you currently stand RN?
Or at least your stance regarding oooo and Unfunny.

Did someone seriously Vanillaize me? Lol.
Well technically It’s Semi Vanilla and not completely vanilla as I have the ability to Moo so I’ll Moo I guess lol.
Not sure if Scum did this or it was part of Bibble’s ability.

Anywho, I’m surprised that Bibble was Town.
I’m assuming the person who was going to shoot Birdie Shot Bibble due to the fact Birdie was lynched.
I Re-Evaluated during the night and came to the conclusion that Bibble/oooo/Unfunny are never all Town.
That being said. My vote for today will be for either oooo or Unfunny.
I’m also assuming this is MYLO? So we need to make sure we lynch a Scum today.

I’m still Confident on Chernobyl and Piss Sun being Town.
Not sure on anyone else anymore.
I also gave Chernobyl my Nut last night as well.

Before I vote though I want to let everyone else get on and see what their current take is.

Did someone seriously Vanillaize me? Lol.
Well technically It’s Semi Vanilla and not completely vanilla as I have the ability to Moo so I’ll Moo I guess lol.
Not sure if Scum did this or it was part of Bibble’s ability.

Anywho, I’m surprised that Bibble was Town.
I’m assuming the person who was going to shoot Birdie Shot Bibble due to the fact Birdie was lynched.
I Re-Evaluated during the night and came to the conclusion that Bibble/oooo/Unfunny are never all Town.
That being said. My vote for today will be for either oooo or Unfunny.
I’m also assuming this is MYLO? So we need to make sure we lynch a Scum today.

I’m still Confident on Chernobyl and Piss Sun being Town.
Not sure on anyone else anymore.
I also gave Chernobyl my Nut last night as well.

Before I vote though I want to let everyone else get on and see what their current take is.

[QUOTE=S-FM Birdie;888875]piss sun just switch to me, bibble will flip too[/QUOTE]

Want me to vote you and you self vote?
I’m assuming your Softing some sort of Vengeful?

Originally Posted by S-FM Birdie

piss sun just switch to me, bibble will flip too

Want me to vote you and you self vote?
I’m assuming your Softing some sort of Vengeful?

[QUOTE=S-FM Birdie;888872]i will die if bibble gets hammered so just vote him and i'll flip too[/QUOTE]

Are you scum?

Originally Posted by S-FM Birdie

i will die if bibble gets hammered so just vote him and i'll flip too

Are you scum?

[QUOTE=S-FM Jolly Rancher;888868]btw


S-FM Birdie (4 [L-2]):
S-FM Chernobyl, S-FM Cats 2019, S-FM ZKL3DJ, S-FM Bibble
S-FM Bibble (5 [L-1]):
S-FM Piss Sun (Mayor), S-FM oooo, S-FM Birdie, S-FM Pig Spider Monkey
S-FM Chernobyl (1 [L-5]):
S-FM Unfunny[/QUOTE]

We don’t have much time left. Hopefully Lemon and/or Unfunny vote before day ends.

Originally Posted by S-FM Jolly Rancher

btw


S-FM Birdie (4 [L-2]):
S-FM Chernobyl, S-FM Cats 2019, S-FM ZKL3DJ, S-FM Bibble
S-FM Bibble (5 [L-1]):
S-FM Piss Sun (Mayor), S-FM oooo, S-FM Birdie, S-FM Pig Spider Monkey
S-FM Chernobyl (1 [L-5]):
S-FM Unfunny

We don’t have much time left. Hopefully Lemon and/or Unfunny vote before day ends.

[QUOTE=S-FM Jolly Rancher;888866][COLOR="#AFEEEE"]I feel personally attacked:[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

Ok let me rephrase.
Anyone “capable” of voting must vote.

Originally Posted by S-FM Jolly Rancher

I feel personally attacked:

Ok let me rephrase.
Anyone “capable” of voting must vote.

I want all of us to be voting someone by EoD.
You signed up to this game to participate. Town or Scum part of participating is to voting someone to help progress the game.
I’d prefer this game to not be stalled.

I want all of us to be voting someone by EoD.
You signed up to this game to participate. Town or Scum part of participating is to voting someone to help progress the game.
I’d prefer this game to not be stalled.

[QUOTE=S-FM Chernobyl;888858]Roleplay. Bibble is probably holy, holy is not scum.

Why you think Bibble is scum?[/QUOTE]

Haven’t really liked anything Bibble as done thus far.
Not to mention I feel his vote on Birdie was forced.

Originally Posted by S-FM Chernobyl

Roleplay. Bibble is probably holy, holy is not scum.

Why you think Bibble is scum?

Haven’t really liked anything Bibble as done thus far.
Not to mention I feel his vote on Birdie was forced.

Wait sorry I’m brain farting, you have him in your TR’s.
What’s your reasoning for it though.

Wait sorry I’m brain farting, you have him in your TR’s.
What’s your reasoning for it though.

[QUOTE=S-FM Chernobyl;888853]I don't think he is scum.[/QUOTE]

Do you think he is Town?
If so what makes you believe that?

Originally Posted by S-FM Chernobyl

I don't think he is scum.

Do you think he is Town?
If so what makes you believe that?

[QUOTE=S-FM Piss Sun;888847]Man bear pig screwed up his vote on bibble, god dam moron.[/QUOTE]

How?
Spelling Error?
[vote]S-FM Bibble[/vote]
Well I’m pretty sure I got it right now.

Originally Posted by S-FM Piss Sun

Man bear pig screwed up his vote on bibble, god dam moron.

How?
Spelling Error?

-vote S-FM Bibble

Well I’m pretty sure I got it right now.

Unless someone wants to convince me and others on a different options we need to lynch either Bibble or Birdie today.
A lynch is always better then no lynch because no lynch means no information.

Unless someone wants to convince me and others on a different options we need to lynch either Bibble or Birdie today.
A lynch is always better then no lynch because no lynch means no information.

[QUOTE=AIVION;888830][size=4][COLOR="#EE82EE"][B]CUTE ANIME GIRL DANCE BLOCK! THIS IS TO SIGNIFY END OF DAY IS IN 5 HOURS AND 49 MINUTES FROM THIS POST!

Better get Busy guys! UwU[/B][/COLOR][/size]

[IMG]https://media1.tenor.com/images/1e27c8d326be8d70c5bbb0802bf959c9/tenor.gif?itemid=18403347[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Ok so we need to decide the lynch for today.
I need everyone to vote either Birdie or Bibble.

Originally Posted by AIVION

CUTE ANIME GIRL DANCE BLOCK! THIS IS TO SIGNIFY END OF DAY IS IN 5 HOURS AND 49 MINUTES FROM THIS POST!

Better get Busy guys! UwU

Ok so we need to decide the lynch for today.
I need everyone to vote either Birdie or Bibble.

Oh Lemon Man.
Where do you stand right now?

Oh Lemon Man.
Where do you stand right now?

Hmm.
Been reading back a bit.
What’s your opinion on Cats Bibble?
And question for Jolly.
What’s your opinion on Bibble?

Hmm.
Been reading back a bit.
What’s your opinion on Cats Bibble?
And question for Jolly.
What’s your opinion on Bibble?

Whoever hasn’t made a readslist yet please make one.

Whoever hasn’t made a readslist yet please make one.

[QUOTE=S-FM Pig Spider Monkey;888772]Here.
Both Unfunny and Piss Sun made reads.
In case you missed it.[/QUOTE]
Flip back a page you and you will find this post with the readslist’s.
Can you make one as well oooo?

Originally Posted by S-FM Pig Spider Monkey

Here.
Both Unfunny and Piss Sun made reads.
In case you missed it.

Flip back a page you and you will find this post with the readslist’s.
Can you make one as well oooo?

[QUOTE=S-FM Bibble;888805]have to go but stuff is wrong here
I said it was disturbing [B]and[/B] scummy, not scummy because it was disturbing. disturbing wasnt a comment about birdie's alignment, more of a joke.

what knowledge are you looking for in this game = 'we can't do shit!' and in the context, it was used to justify shitposting, and [I]justifying[/I] shitposting is scummy. when you shitpost, you shitpost for fun, you don't feel the need to say 'oh but I'm shitposting because there's no info to get out of this game', unless you're scum trying to find a way not to contribute without having to lurk.

the last part is the statement of having pure nothing in a game with crazy roles all over the place. thats not towny lol.


pssh, as if i were threatened 'survive another day'. changing your vote after 2 posts is what id call the opposite of forced: spontaneous. im not even saying birdie is confirmed scum, just scummy, and i like the wagon being strong. if anything, you're the one who feels forced since the beginning of the game, you look like you want to appear scumhunty a bit hard.[/QUOTE]

I’m aware you said it was disturbing [B]and[/B] scummy.
But why is disturbing a factor in you voting Birdie?
That wasn’t justifying for their shit post Lol. They were responding to my post, maybe read posts and you’d have known that.
I’m confused. They give information about themselves rolewise and that’s scummy to you?
Like Piss Sun literally did a similar thing and did you ever question them about it?
Seems to me your just making up excuses.

The vote doesn’t make shit forced. How you went about it does.
Changing your vote doesn’t make it the opposite of forced it makes it NAI.
There’s a difference of wanting a wagon to build and be strong and wanting a wagon with the full intention of it to cause a lynch and that’s what your doing or at least it seems that way to me.
Funny how you go to OMGUS me and the only thing you can come up with is “lol you scumhunt too hard”.
Like lol.

Originally Posted by S-FM Bibble

have to go but stuff is wrong here
I said it was disturbing and scummy, not scummy because it was disturbing. disturbing wasnt a comment about birdie's alignment, more of a joke.

what knowledge are you looking for in this game = 'we can't do shit!' and in the context, it was used to justify shitposting, and justifying shitposting is scummy. when you shitpost, you shitpost for fun, you don't feel the need to say 'oh but I'm shitposting because there's no info to get out of this game', unless you're scum trying to find a way not to contribute without having to lurk.

the last part is the statement of having pure nothing in a game with crazy roles all over the place. thats not towny lol.


pssh, as if i were threatened 'survive another day'. changing your vote after 2 posts is what id call the opposite of forced: spontaneous. im not even saying birdie is confirmed scum, just scummy, and i like the wagon being strong. if anything, you're the one who feels forced since the beginning of the game, you look like you want to appear scumhunty a bit hard.

I’m aware you said it was disturbing and scummy.
But why is disturbing a factor in you voting Birdie?
That wasn’t justifying for their shit post Lol. They were responding to my post, maybe read posts and you’d have known that.
I’m confused. They give information about themselves rolewise and that’s scummy to you?
Like Piss Sun literally did a similar thing and did you ever question them about it?
Seems to me your just making up excuses.

The vote doesn’t make shit forced. How you went about it does.
Changing your vote doesn’t make it the opposite of forced it makes it NAI.
There’s a difference of wanting a wagon to build and be strong and wanting a wagon with the full intention of it to cause a lynch and that’s what your doing or at least it seems that way to me.
Funny how you go to OMGUS me and the only thing you can come up with is “lol you scumhunt too hard”.
Like lol.

Ah I made a spelling error.
In case someone misunderstands it. The correct wording is Laid your last vote not lied your last vote.
My bad.

Ah I made a spelling error.
In case someone misunderstands it. The correct wording is Laid your last vote not lied your last vote.
My bad.