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[VOTE]FM-ZOMG[/VOTE]

-vote FM-ZOMG

[QUOTE=FM-Snuggles;1007812][URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/51399-KRC-Sc2Mafia-13th-Anniversary-Game-(S-FM-357)?p=998327#post998327"]#1607[/URL] concerns me, it's a bit meh and the type of stuff mafia like to ask to seem helpful

I think overall you kind of just have a lack of substantial content compared to others, i mean you have [URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/51399-KRC-Sc2Mafia-13th-Anniversary-Game-(S-FM-357)?p=1000618#post1000618"]#3896[/URL] I suppose.

You kinda talk about nothing sometimes, like in [URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/51399-KRC-Sc2Mafia-13th-Anniversary-Game-(S-FM-357)?p=1000632#post1000632"]#3910[/URL]

It really just boils down to i think you are being kinda fake helpful and you have been kind of whatever to me, though I know ur under time crunch, i understand that.

I gotta make a list before i die today (likely)[/QUOTE]

Thank you!

I think it's important that I had very little context to anything going on and was struggling to get into the game. I picked up on ringmaster complaining a lot about being ignored on their read nad having very specific concerns, I then pressed them on those and the result was a relatively bad response chain of "yeah I could actually fix this by engaging with people but I'm not gonna spend energy doing that". I didn't have much time after and fpcused on the red cross read that I was told to ISO.

I get where you're coming from though - I would just say that from my perspective I had to enter the conversation somewhere and that felt like a good place to prod at even removed from context.

:ghosthug:

Originally Posted by FM-Snuggles

#1607 concerns me, it's a bit meh and the type of stuff mafia like to ask to seem helpful

I think overall you kind of just have a lack of substantial content compared to others, i mean you have #3896 I suppose.

You kinda talk about nothing sometimes, like in #3910

It really just boils down to i think you are being kinda fake helpful and you have been kind of whatever to me, though I know ur under time crunch, i understand that.

I gotta make a list before i die today (likely)

Thank you!

I think it's important that I had very little context to anything going on and was struggling to get into the game. I picked up on ringmaster complaining a lot about being ignored on their read nad having very specific concerns, I then pressed them on those and the result was a relatively bad response chain of "yeah I could actually fix this by engaging with people but I'm not gonna spend energy doing that". I didn't have much time after and fpcused on the red cross read that I was told to ISO.

I get where you're coming from though - I would just say that from my perspective I had to enter the conversation somewhere and that felt like a good place to prod at even removed from context.

:ghosthug:

before day ends I will say that if anyone wants to engage with me, just ping me. I love those sorts of conversations and get more out of them (e.g. my one earlier with autumn). Don't just enter, shade me, and then leave when I am literally right here for you to prod or ask stuff to.

That isn't going to help anyone - not even yourself, that's what wolves do to shape shitty ITA lists.

before day ends I will say that if anyone wants to engage with me, just ping me. I love those sorts of conversations and get more out of them (e.g. my one earlier with autumn). Don't just enter, shade me, and then leave when I am literally right here for you to prod or ask stuff to.

That isn't going to help anyone - not even yourself, that's what wolves do to shape shitty ITA lists.

[QUOTE=FM-Snuggles;1007765]i kinda think ZOMG should die tomorrow still[/QUOTE]

bruh

can some of the people who say this actually engage with me while I'm here like Autumn did or explain the read.

You have this opportunity and aren't taking it

what in my iso concerns you

Originally Posted by FM-Snuggles

i kinda think ZOMG should die tomorrow still

bruh

can some of the people who say this actually engage with me while I'm here like Autumn did or explain the read.

You have this opportunity and aren't taking it

what in my iso concerns you

[QUOTE=FM-Mr Clean;1007751]It seems I drew pot of greed kaiba. You know what that means[/QUOTE]

I don't actually

But also that card is banned you cheater!

Originally Posted by FM-Mr Clean

It seems I drew pot of greed kaiba. You know what that means

I don't actually

But also that card is banned you cheater!

[QUOTE=FM-Mr Clean;1007741]Obligatory omgus[/QUOTE]

obligatory omgus to your omgus

I set one card face down and pass my turn

[IMG]https://media.tenor.com/0BUnu4B7bIAAAAAM/yugioh-card.gif[/IMG]

Your turn Mr. Cleaiba

Originally Posted by FM-Mr Clean

Obligatory omgus

obligatory omgus to your omgus

I set one card face down and pass my turn



Your turn Mr. Cleaiba

[QUOTE=FM-Mr Clean;1007735]I managed to show up to eod![/QUOTE]

onligatory 'wolfy pop in' response

Originally Posted by FM-Mr Clean

I managed to show up to eod!

onligatory 'wolfy pop in' response

[QUOTE=FM-Scarf;1007707]would either be absolutely impossible (not allowed to die in ITAs) or really easy (allowed to die in ITAs)[/QUOTE]

the former is the one that sounds fun.

'The Dark Souls of Mafia rands...'

Originally Posted by FM-Scarf

would either be absolutely impossible (not allowed to die in ITAs) or really easy (allowed to die in ITAs)

the former is the one that sounds fun.

'The Dark Souls of Mafia rands...'

[QUOTE=FM-Eyescream;1007692]For what it's worth, I'm just trusting the thread on Red Cross because I probably won't get to read them and at this rate they're probably getting flipped no matter what. The points people are making about the wincon not making sense are fair, but I also don't really know what to expect with a setup of multiple weird roles made by the players so I'm just like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯[/QUOTE]

I feel this post is towny mindset - this sort of pov doesn't feel like it fits a wolf perspective in a way that could come across this casual.

Originally Posted by FM-Eyescream

For what it's worth, I'm just trusting the thread on Red Cross because I probably won't get to read them and at this rate they're probably getting flipped no matter what. The points people are making about the wincon not making sense are fair, but I also don't really know what to expect with a setup of multiple weird roles made by the players so I'm just like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I feel this post is towny mindset - this sort of pov doesn't feel like it fits a wolf perspective in a way that could come across this casual.

[QUOTE=FM-Lipstick;1007667]Yeah

Who the fuck makes a survivor in a game like this

Or benign anything[/QUOTE]

I for one would love to have a jester role in one of these games lmao

Originally Posted by FM-Lipstick

Yeah

Who the fuck makes a survivor in a game like this

Or benign anything

I for one would love to have a jester role in one of these games lmao

[QUOTE=FM-Lipstick;1007665]Town slots that keeps finding themselves in the middle
Or in the PoE
Just some preaching

If you happen to see this

Please just make as much time as possible for the game
Doesn't matter if you're caught up or not

Anything you do
As long as you are
Genuine

Wolves can't be
Genuine
All the time
They smell weird

If you are town
That is really you're only job
And then I think we do have a chance here[/QUOTE]

I am generally weak to posts like this, but I hope it's genuine.

IRL I am in a play this upcoming weekend and this is Tech Week so my time I can be around is heavily dependent on the day. If we get past that then I am going to be able to truly come alive - but that really isn't a sufficient excuse to stave off some of the people who scum read me from wanting me low, or those who have me listed with the nulls to move me either way (and this is understandable).

I'd ask those who scum read me to ping me with why.

Those who have me null can read my posts and ping me with their ISO.

I hate to have to base my thread presence around myself - but as things stand I am going to struggle in an anonymous game to really draw much outside of the mech.

I do think the discussion earlier around the ghost lady does pan out to show that it is a town role now that I have the neighborhood context. I will reaffirm though that if it kills us both - that it does not tell me that. It also restricts certain actions, but I have no actions that apply to it, so if they are town it would be best to move that to someone where it could be more useful for town.

Originally Posted by FM-Lipstick

Town slots that keeps finding themselves in the middle
Or in the PoE
Just some preaching

If you happen to see this

Please just make as much time as possible for the game
Doesn't matter if you're caught up or not

Anything you do
As long as you are
Genuine

Wolves can't be
Genuine
All the time
They smell weird

If you are town
That is really you're only job
And then I think we do have a chance here

I am generally weak to posts like this, but I hope it's genuine.

IRL I am in a play this upcoming weekend and this is Tech Week so my time I can be around is heavily dependent on the day. If we get past that then I am going to be able to truly come alive - but that really isn't a sufficient excuse to stave off some of the people who scum read me from wanting me low, or those who have me listed with the nulls to move me either way (and this is understandable).

I'd ask those who scum read me to ping me with why.

Those who have me null can read my posts and ping me with their ISO.

I hate to have to base my thread presence around myself - but as things stand I am going to struggle in an anonymous game to really draw much outside of the mech.

I do think the discussion earlier around the ghost lady does pan out to show that it is a town role now that I have the neighborhood context. I will reaffirm though that if it kills us both - that it does not tell me that. It also restricts certain actions, but I have no actions that apply to it, so if they are town it would be best to move that to someone where it could be more useful for town.

[QUOTE=FM-Autumn;1007454]tbh mostly i actually want to know why were you so worried about that "we cannot kill lickilicky because that might kill me", if you still believed lickilicky would flip wolf/3p regardless? like i'd imagine that for a townie, getting the wolves dead is more important than what saving your own life is?[/QUOTE]

I mean my initial reaction was to vote them and want them gone

then I realized it would also kill me

then I saw the 3p thing and voted red since they're scummy.


I am not too familiar with mash role making but I assume with lickilicky's role that there is a limitation or maybe a way to kill the slot without killing me. (Let me cope okay ;-;)

if they are wolf I don't understand why they would use it on me or claim it at all

if they are 3p there's more going on than I can comprehend with the role. (e.g. I could become 'possessed' or some other thing if I meet certain conditions. All I was told with the role is that i could not use certain actions n2 that I don't even have - suggesting that if licki!wolf that the wolves don't know what my role is and blind fired on me on a whim.)

Originally Posted by FM-Autumn

tbh mostly i actually want to know why were you so worried about that "we cannot kill lickilicky because that might kill me", if you still believed lickilicky would flip wolf/3p regardless? like i'd imagine that for a townie, getting the wolves dead is more important than what saving your own life is?

I mean my initial reaction was to vote them and want them gone

then I realized it would also kill me

then I saw the 3p thing and voted red since they're scummy.


I am not too familiar with mash role making but I assume with lickilicky's role that there is a limitation or maybe a way to kill the slot without killing me. (Let me cope okay ;-;)

if they are wolf I don't understand why they would use it on me or claim it at all

if they are 3p there's more going on than I can comprehend with the role. (e.g. I could become 'possessed' or some other thing if I meet certain conditions. All I was told with the role is that i could not use certain actions n2 that I don't even have - suggesting that if licki!wolf that the wolves don't know what my role is and blind fired on me on a whim.)

[QUOTE=FM-Autumn;1007449]also what kind of 3p would have vengeful? probably would need to be some 3p group then because i think most lone 3ps just lose the game if they get killed, and giving vengeful to a person who's not aligned with anyone and already lost the game does not sound like a good role tbh[/QUOTE]

Fair point. my home community has a lot of third-team setups so I kind of missed this idea.

Originally Posted by FM-Autumn

also what kind of 3p would have vengeful? probably would need to be some 3p group then because i think most lone 3ps just lose the game if they get killed, and giving vengeful to a person who's not aligned with anyone and already lost the game does not sound like a good role tbh

Fair point. my home community has a lot of third-team setups so I kind of missed this idea.

[QUOTE=FM-Autumn;1007447]no one has said lickilicky is 3p?[/QUOTE]

I recall a post claiming red cross claimed lickilicky is 3p and someone else said it. I could just be getting my wires crossed tbh

I do not understand why I would be targeted with that action in either case.

Originally Posted by FM-Autumn

no one has said lickilicky is 3p?

I recall a post claiming red cross claimed lickilicky is 3p and someone else said it. I could just be getting my wires crossed tbh

I do not understand why I would be targeted with that action in either case.

[QUOTE=FM-Autumn;1007439]do you still think lickilicky is wolf, though?[/QUOTE]

I have seen people say Red and Lickilicky are 3p since I got here. fmpov it would make sense for a 3p to target me and not a wolf with that sort of ability.

Originally Posted by FM-Autumn

do you still think lickilicky is wolf, though?

I have seen people say Red and Lickilicky are 3p since I got here. fmpov it would make sense for a 3p to target me and not a wolf with that sort of ability.

[QUOTE=FM-ZOMG;1000654]read Red Cross.



Nothing AI I just wanted to highlight the cute furret.






I think they have a lot of 'fishing' posts that are looking for involvement despite having a slow start. What caught my eye wasn't that they townread Hat but rather that if you look at the time of the posts:

>enters around top of hour and hones in hard on Droopy and posts about them
>10 mins later claims to have ISO'd Droopy
>8 mins later after further ISOing votes Droopy and drops three town reads on Hat, Spongebob, and Candy
>a few mins later they say they are 'struggling to read ten pages'

I am skeptical that this timeline is pure and is how a town would approach the situation - especially on this quick of a timetable.

I would like to hear the process that led them to this and what specifically in the iso they saw - as I'd argue that if Red Cross is scum that this might be rather clearing of Candy and or Sponge/Hat with how clear it seems that the townread came from some sense of mindmelding with their anti droopy sentiment. If I am mistaken on this then I apologize for missing the context.

P#1934 is the actual 'I have reasons!!!" post. In a rolelist like this I am more inclined to maybe trust posts like this.

If that was how much effort it took me to get through a 49 post ISO then I think I'll pass on doing one on hat for now.
[MENTION=46671]FM-Dredge[/MENTION][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Red Cross;1000806]I think I found it

(bro what is that pfp wtf)

tbh i don't remember how much it took me to read droopy's iso but at the time it had like 25 posts and I read the case on sonrisa before isoing

i already said my read on had is for mech reasons mmmm

10 pages is significantly more than an iso xD

but I think looking at the timing is so try hardish that this has to be town[/QUOTE]

I dropped a case on Red Cross based on how what they were claiming to have done for their reads didn't match up to how long they were posting. After that in the ISO they actually claim to have more firmly read more ISO's and posts in that time than I initially thought.

I don't think this is a satisfactory answer (and I would rather not die from lickilicky going over!!!!!!!!!) and the rest of the ISO leaves me content to vote here

[VOTE]FM-Red Cross[/VOTE]

Originally Posted by FM-ZOMG

read Red Cross.



Nothing AI I just wanted to highlight the cute furret.






I think they have a lot of 'fishing' posts that are looking for involvement despite having a slow start. What caught my eye wasn't that they townread Hat but rather that if you look at the time of the posts:

>enters around top of hour and hones in hard on Droopy and posts about them
>10 mins later claims to have ISO'd Droopy
>8 mins later after further ISOing votes Droopy and drops three town reads on Hat, Spongebob, and Candy
>a few mins later they say they are 'struggling to read ten pages'

I am skeptical that this timeline is pure and is how a town would approach the situation - especially on this quick of a timetable.

I would like to hear the process that led them to this and what specifically in the iso they saw - as I'd argue that if Red Cross is scum that this might be rather clearing of Candy and or Sponge/Hat with how clear it seems that the townread came from some sense of mindmelding with their anti droopy sentiment. If I am mistaken on this then I apologize for missing the context.

P#1934 is the actual 'I have reasons!!!" post. In a rolelist like this I am more inclined to maybe trust posts like this.

If that was how much effort it took me to get through a 49 post ISO then I think I'll pass on doing one on hat for now.
@FM-Dredge

Originally Posted by FM-Red Cross

I think I found it

(bro what is that pfp wtf)

tbh i don't remember how much it took me to read droopy's iso but at the time it had like 25 posts and I read the case on sonrisa before isoing

i already said my read on had is for mech reasons mmmm

10 pages is significantly more than an iso xD

but I think looking at the timing is so try hardish that this has to be town

I dropped a case on Red Cross based on how what they were claiming to have done for their reads didn't match up to how long they were posting. After that in the ISO they actually claim to have more firmly read more ISO's and posts in that time than I initially thought.

I don't think this is a satisfactory answer (and I would rather not die from lickilicky going over!!!!!!!!!) and the rest of the ISO leaves me content to vote here

-vote FM-Red Cross

[QUOTE=FM-Autumn;1007412]you're aware that roles are alignment agnostic?[/QUOTE]

[IMG]https://c.tenor.com/XnGK5CaQTt4AAAAd/tenor.gif[/IMG]

Originally Posted by FM-Autumn

you're aware that roles are alignment agnostic?

wait voting lickilicky is suicide

:spinda:

[VOTE]FM-ZOMG[/VOTE]

wait voting lickilicky is suicide

-vote FM-ZOMG

[QUOTE=FM-Sad Super Saiyan;1007002]imma take a lil nap but pinging myself with my reads so i can know where to start when im free again [MENTION=46700]FM-Sad Super Saiyan[/MENTION].

poe doesn't feel accurate at alllll, so def check through the town tiers

[COLOR="#008000"]mech town + near lock town:[/COLOR]
Tiny Hippo
Autumn
Naptime
Ringmaster
Space Pizza
Scarf
Yellow Snow

[COLOR="#00FF00"]My very strong TRs[/COLOR]
Bad Hair Day
Breakup
Candyfloss
Disco Dancer
Eyescream
Goblin and Worg
Matchstick Man
Mining Peep
Monet Rocket
Mr Clean
Oink
Player 2
Protagonist Hair
Snuggles

[COLOR="#F0FFF0"]TLs i need to closeread/justify:[/COLOR]
Catnip
Choo-Choo
Dredge (role is flipped in thread, [URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/51399-KRC-Sc2Mafia-13th-Anniversary-Game-(S-FM-357)?p=1006139&viewfull=1#post1006139"]#9404[/URL])
Droopy Snout
Four Past Seven
Hon Hon Hon
Lassie
Lipstick
Peekaboo
Old Lickilicky (claims ZOMG dies with him)
The Great Flood
The Hat

[COLOR="#FF8C00"]3p Claim:[/COLOR]
Red Cross

[COLOR="#FF0000"]Null/Scummy:[/COLOR]
Chromatography
Chibi Minnie
Goldfish Bowl
Joycat
Pareidolia
Platypus
Talking Anthill
ZOMG[/QUOTE]

last night I was 'marked' by the 'ghost lady' role. Idk about y'all but that does not sound like town flavour lmao

so if lickilicky is claiming that sort of ability then I want them gone.

[VOTE]FM-Old Lickilicky[/VOTE]

Originally Posted by FM-Sad Super Saiyan

imma take a lil nap but pinging myself with my reads so i can know where to start when im free again @FM-Sad Super Saiyan .

poe doesn't feel accurate at alllll, so def check through the town tiers

mech town + near lock town:
Tiny Hippo
Autumn
Naptime
Ringmaster
Space Pizza
Scarf
Yellow Snow

My very strong TRs
Bad Hair Day
Breakup
Candyfloss
Disco Dancer
Eyescream
Goblin and Worg
Matchstick Man
Mining Peep
Monet Rocket
Mr Clean
Oink
Player 2
Protagonist Hair
Snuggles

TLs i need to closeread/justify:
Catnip
Choo-Choo
Dredge (role is flipped in thread, #9404)
Droopy Snout
Four Past Seven
Hon Hon Hon
Lassie
Lipstick
Peekaboo
Old Lickilicky (claims ZOMG dies with him)
The Great Flood
The Hat

3p Claim:
Red Cross

Null/Scummy:
Chromatography
Chibi Minnie
Goldfish Bowl
Joycat
Pareidolia
Platypus
Talking Anthill
ZOMG

last night I was 'marked' by the 'ghost lady' role. Idk about y'all but that does not sound like town flavour lmao

so if lickilicky is claiming that sort of ability then I want them gone.

-vote FM-Old Lickilicky

[QUOTE=FM-The Hat;1007052]We got 3 scum found dead in miami.

We got a another non-town in Red Cross who I'm pretty sure is scum, he's still alive but if you sheep my wagon with naptime we can skin another non-town[/QUOTE]

I'll check their ISO later (again) and consider it, but does protag's visit not connecting mean anything or is it just meh

Originally Posted by FM-The Hat

We got 3 scum found dead in miami.

We got a another non-town in Red Cross who I'm pretty sure is scum, he's still alive but if you sheep my wagon with naptime we can skin another non-town

I'll check their ISO later (again) and consider it, but does protag's visit not connecting mean anything or is it just meh

[QUOTE=FM-The Hat;1007046]Naptime was busy leading the town to victory with tiny hippo and SSS to support em[/QUOTE]

I saw that ITA killed list and that didn't look like a town victory

[IMG]https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/original/iKK6KVtXrg3XxEDnt8qxtkrdrWO.jpg[/IMG]

Originally Posted by FM-The Hat

Naptime was busy leading the town to victory with tiny hippo and SSS to support em

I saw that ITA killed list and that didn't look like a town victory

[QUOTE=FM-Sad Super Saiyan;1007039]D2 SBPC so far:
43 alive, 1 poisoned.
3 mafia dead, 11 town dead

Naptime (297)
Dredge (293)
Tiny Hippo (291)
Sad Super Saiyan (271)
Scarf (239)
Ringmaster (195)
Protagonist Hair (172)
The Hat (163)
Breakup (152)
Autumn (145)
Matchstick Man (140)
Goblin and Worg (137)
Hon Hon Hon (135)
Yellow Snow (134)
Snuggles (126)
The Great Flood (126)
Eyescream (120)
Pareidolia (118)
Mr Clean (117)
Peekaboo (117)
Lipstick (103)
Chromatography (102)
Talking Anthill (98 )
Chibi Minnie (84)
Red Cross (79)
Choo-Choo (78 )
Bad Hair Day (73)
Old Lickilicky (61)
Oink (59)
Goldfish Bowl (37)
Droopy Snout (30)
Four Past Seven (30)
Catnip (29)
Candyfloss (28 )
Lassie (28 )
Player 2 (27)
Disco Dancer (22)
Space Pizza (17)
Mining Peep (16)
Joycat (14)
Monet Rocket (14)
Platypus (8 )
ZOMG (0)


so be careful [MENTION=46686]FM-Naptime[/MENTION] [MENTION=46671]FM-Dredge[/MENTION] [MENTION=46711]FM-Tiny Hippo[/MENTION][/QUOTE]

how the fuck do y'all have time to make 300 posts in 24 hours ;-;

Originally Posted by FM-Sad Super Saiyan

D2 SBPC so far:
43 alive, 1 poisoned.
3 mafia dead, 11 town dead

Naptime (297)
Dredge (293)
Tiny Hippo (291)
Sad Super Saiyan (271)
Scarf (239)
Ringmaster (195)
Protagonist Hair (172)
The Hat (163)
Breakup (152)
Autumn (145)
Matchstick Man (140)
Goblin and Worg (137)
Hon Hon Hon (135)
Yellow Snow (134)
Snuggles (126)
The Great Flood (126)
Eyescream (120)
Pareidolia (11
Mr Clean (117)
Peekaboo (117)
Lipstick (103)
Chromatography (102)
Talking Anthill (98 )
Chibi Minnie (84)
Red Cross (79)
Choo-Choo (78 )
Bad Hair Day (73)
Old Lickilicky (61)
Oink (59)
Goldfish Bowl (37)
Droopy Snout (30)
Four Past Seven (30)
Catnip (29)
Candyfloss (28 )
Lassie (28 )
Player 2 (27)
Disco Dancer (22)
Space Pizza (17)
Mining Peep (16)
Joycat (14)
Monet Rocket (14)
Platypus (8 )
ZOMG (0)


so be careful @FM-Naptime @FM-Dredge @FM-Tiny Hippo

how the fuck do y'all have time to make 300 posts in 24 hours ;-;

Oh!
Hello!
Hi!
I'm [I]Zomg[/I]
I apologize for missing ITA's
So irresponsible.
Or maybe it's liberated...

Anyway - I'm here!

[IMG]https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/842/707/3e5.gif[/IMG]

I'm somewhat of a vanity-searcher myself so I like to see some of the shit talk directed my way between stops in the thread. Today I didn't really catch a break til very late, and even now I'm gonna drop this then head off to bathe then I'll be back to make sure I don't get modkilled for missing the first half of the day.

I want to just put it out there that I was [B][U]NOT[/U][/B] given anything of the sort by Protagonist. I [I]was[/I] however 'marked' by the 'ghost lady' - which idk about y'all but that sounds like I'm kind of fucked.

[QUOTE=FM-Protagonist Hair;1005705][COLOR="#0ea4e5"][FONT=Comic Sans MS]Basically, I don't wanna jump to conclusions since ZOMG never checked in, thus we can't confirm if my visit was successful or not. However, Player 2 claiming I did only 1x communication visit is false.[/FONT][/COLOR][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Protagonist Hair;1003705][COLOR="#0ea4e5"][FONT=Comic Sans MS]I gave ZOMG and Catnip spoilers to what will happen on D3 if I make it alive. It is related to what I sent them. On D3, it will be every player participate in a similar trade with me. I get to choose a winner and someone will get an unknown reward. Seeing how slow this ability works and there is a single reward, I bet it is something strong. I wanted to talk about this after ITA's today but maybe it is better I get this out of the way now seeing a lot of people wanting to ITA me.

Beyond that, I have some solid understanding of mechs related to setup and information not many of us probably have. I am still holding on to those because I want to take advantage of it. It is not like half the players are reading my posts anyway, they just look at votecount.

I also started the game in a neighborhood with an anonymous player, I will refer to them as Master in this context and I am their puppet. My master started the game knowing my identity and some of my powers. Apparently, this was randomized according to my master and I was given weaker versions of my masters non-killing abilities. I can also generate fake feedback to trick my master, I can guess a player and strongman them if I guess them correctly as my Master. I can invest up to 3 players to check if they are my master. If I failed my guess, my master could kill me. I put some effort last night to figure out who it was and got lucky. I am not always unlucky. Pilgrim/Grate it wasn't just me being unlucky I think a lot of people were unlucky on their guess. However, I am starting to get really annoyed by how some people are stretching the Pilgrim chop in a wolfy way to scumread me. I unvoted Pilgrim way early on when they claimed to be a newbie, you can find it in the TLDR part of my post why I didn't want Pilgrim to be chopped and instead we should have left them to see the ITAs. I am about to have a nervous breakdown from all the gaslighting/pressure I have received two days in a row.


I guess I could kill BHD and inherit their powers but then mafia will kill me after seeing their flip. I decided it is best for everyone that I don't kill BHD and if I get killed at any point, you can pelt BHD. I would rather see BHD work for my wincon which is town.
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Oh!
Hello!
Hi!
I'm Zomg
I apologize for missing ITA's
So irresponsible.
Or maybe it's liberated...

Anyway - I'm here!



I'm somewhat of a vanity-searcher myself so I like to see some of the shit talk directed my way between stops in the thread. Today I didn't really catch a break til very late, and even now I'm gonna drop this then head off to bathe then I'll be back to make sure I don't get modkilled for missing the first half of the day.

I want to just put it out there that I was NOT given anything of the sort by Protagonist. I was however 'marked' by the 'ghost lady' - which idk about y'all but that sounds like I'm kind of fucked.

Originally Posted by FM-Protagonist Hair

Basically, I don't wanna jump to conclusions since ZOMG never checked in, thus we can't confirm if my visit was successful or not. However, Player 2 claiming I did only 1x communication visit is false.

Originally Posted by FM-Protagonist Hair

I gave ZOMG and Catnip spoilers to what will happen on D3 if I make it alive. It is related to what I sent them. On D3, it will be every player participate in a similar trade with me. I get to choose a winner and someone will get an unknown reward. Seeing how slow this ability works and there is a single reward, I bet it is something strong. I wanted to talk about this after ITA's today but maybe it is better I get this out of the way now seeing a lot of people wanting to ITA me.

Beyond that, I have some solid understanding of mechs related to setup and information not many of us probably have. I am still holding on to those because I want to take advantage of it. It is not like half the players are reading my posts anyway, they just look at votecount.

I also started the game in a neighborhood with an anonymous player, I will refer to them as Master in this context and I am their puppet. My master started the game knowing my identity and some of my powers. Apparently, this was randomized according to my master and I was given weaker versions of my masters non-killing abilities. I can also generate fake feedback to trick my master, I can guess a player and strongman them if I guess them correctly as my Master. I can invest up to 3 players to check if they are my master. If I failed my guess, my master could kill me. I put some effort last night to figure out who it was and got lucky. I am not always unlucky. Pilgrim/Grate it wasn't just me being unlucky I think a lot of people were unlucky on their guess. However, I am starting to get really annoyed by how some people are stretching the Pilgrim chop in a wolfy way to scumread me. I unvoted Pilgrim way early on when they claimed to be a newbie, you can find it in the TLDR part of my post why I didn't want Pilgrim to be chopped and instead we should have left them to see the ITAs. I am about to have a nervous breakdown from all the gaslighting/pressure I have received two days in a row.


I guess I could kill BHD and inherit their powers but then mafia will kill me after seeing their flip. I decided it is best for everyone that I don't kill BHD and if I get killed at any point, you can pelt BHD. I would rather see BHD work for my wincon which is town.

[QUOTE=FM-Disco Dancer;1000699]fair enough- thanks for answering the question. in your opinion, who should the lynches today be?[/QUOTE]

I have not been around enough to dictate anything lol

[VOTE]FM-Protagonist Hair[/VOTE]

Originally Posted by FM-Disco Dancer

fair enough- thanks for answering the question. in your opinion, who should the lynches today be?

I have not been around enough to dictate anything lol

-vote FM-Protagonist Hair

[QUOTE=FM-Goblin and Worg;1000694]And what do you make of that 'shit reaction'? Do you think Bad Hair is a wolf that has flown under the radar and you caught Disco for reacting badly for you starting a wagon on him, or do you have something else in mind?[/QUOTE]

I don't think in anonymous I can condemn anyone on one data point like what you're suggesting lol

the shit reaction was primarily a joke at their expense - though if bad ever flips scum then I think the phrasing of that reaction should be given consideration.

I think what is natural for town to do when they see a low poster vote like I did without context is to just... ask the context. Here it kind of gives TMI vibes with how exasperated, but that could just be how disco reacts generally to things like this.


as for Protag hair I think they


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I just realized mid post that I confused bad hair day and protagonist hair. just gonna hit send and curl into a ball in the corner tbh

Originally Posted by FM-Goblin and Worg

And what do you make of that 'shit reaction'? Do you think Bad Hair is a wolf that has flown under the radar and you caught Disco for reacting badly for you starting a wagon on him, or do you have something else in mind?

I don't think in anonymous I can condemn anyone on one data point like what you're suggesting lol

the shit reaction was primarily a joke at their expense - though if bad ever flips scum then I think the phrasing of that reaction should be given consideration.

I think what is natural for town to do when they see a low poster vote like I did without context is to just... ask the context. Here it kind of gives TMI vibes with how exasperated, but that could just be how disco reacts generally to things like this.


as for Protag hair I think they


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I just realized mid post that I confused bad hair day and protagonist hair. just gonna hit send and curl into a ball in the corner tbh

[QUOTE=FM-Disco Dancer;1000690]didnt mean that in a bad way just haven't really talked to you at all.[/QUOTE]

1. I talked a bit about my interaction and thoughts on hair when I re-entered about 2 pages ago.
2. I think Red Cross goes over with or without my vote - but at this point I expect that the only way they don't go over based on that ISO is that they have a mech reason - in which case my vote is not gonna get moved and is wasted.
3. I doubt bad hair day would go over a much less vocal person, but I value pressure and seeing how people handle being on the execution stand + I think Goblin is present enough and tonally towny enough to make work of that.

Hope this helps you to understand me.

Originally Posted by FM-Disco Dancer

didnt mean that in a bad way just haven't really talked to you at all.

1. I talked a bit about my interaction and thoughts on hair when I re-entered about 2 pages ago.
2. I think Red Cross goes over with or without my vote - but at this point I expect that the only way they don't go over based on that ISO is that they have a mech reason - in which case my vote is not gonna get moved and is wasted.
3. I doubt bad hair day would go over a much less vocal person, but I value pressure and seeing how people handle being on the execution stand + I think Goblin is present enough and tonally towny enough to make work of that.

Hope this helps you to understand me.

[QUOTE=FM-Goblin and Worg;1000685]Of all the possible counterwagons to start, why go for someone who has vibed better than half of the thread in their interactions so far?[/QUOTE]

~~to bait people like disco into having shit reactions to voting there~~

Originally Posted by FM-Goblin and Worg

Of all the possible counterwagons to start, why go for someone who has vibed better than half of the thread in their interactions so far?

~~to bait people like disco into having shit reactions to voting there~~

[QUOTE=FM-Disco Dancer;1000680]Woah you haven't even been around today, whats your reasoning behind that vote?[/QUOTE]

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Originally Posted by FM-Disco Dancer

Woah you haven't even been around today, whats your reasoning behind that vote?

I want to see where this goes

[VOTE]FM-Bad Hair Day[/VOTE]

I want to see where this goes

-vote FM-Bad Hair Day

[QUOTE=FM-Dredge;1000656]look catnip, you go on and live your best life. my vote will not go off of you and i am done interacting with you and even advocating for your lynch this dayphase. if you are scum, gj you win today. if you are town, i really dont know what you are doing.[/QUOTE]

I don't care to ISO, but if you could explain what is going on here it would prob help.

Originally Posted by FM-Dredge

look catnip, you go on and live your best life. my vote will not go off of you and i am done interacting with you and even advocating for your lynch this dayphase. if you are scum, gj you win today. if you are town, i really dont know what you are doing.

I don't care to ISO, but if you could explain what is going on here it would prob help.

read Red Cross.

[QUOTE=FM-Red Cross;998613]Hey chat I feel asleep

Ill follow the furret while i try to read

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-Vote FM-The Hat[/QUOTE]

Nothing AI I just wanted to highlight the cute furret.






I think they have a lot of 'fishing' posts that are looking for involvement despite having a slow start. What caught my eye wasn't that they townread Hat but rather that if you look at the time of the posts:

>enters around top of hour and hones in hard on Droopy and posts about them
>10 mins later claims to have ISO'd Droopy
>8 mins later after further ISOing votes Droopy and drops three town reads on Hat, Spongebob, and Candy
>a few mins later they say they are 'struggling to read ten pages'

I am skeptical that this timeline is pure and is how a town would approach the situation - especially on this quick of a timetable.

I would like to hear the process that led them to this and what specifically in the iso they saw - as I'd argue that if Red Cross is scum that this might be rather clearing of Candy and or Sponge/Hat with how clear it seems that the townread came from some sense of mindmelding with their anti droopy sentiment. If I am mistaken on this then I apologize for missing the context.

P#1934 is the actual 'I have reasons!!!" post. In a rolelist like this I am more inclined to maybe trust posts like this.

If that was how much effort it took me to get through a 49 post ISO then I think I'll pass on doing one on hat for now.
[MENTION=46671]FM-Dredge[/MENTION]

read Red Cross.

Originally Posted by FM-Red Cross

Hey chat I feel asleep

Ill follow the furret while i try to read



-Vote FM-The Hat

Nothing AI I just wanted to highlight the cute furret.






I think they have a lot of 'fishing' posts that are looking for involvement despite having a slow start. What caught my eye wasn't that they townread Hat but rather that if you look at the time of the posts:

>enters around top of hour and hones in hard on Droopy and posts about them
>10 mins later claims to have ISO'd Droopy
>8 mins later after further ISOing votes Droopy and drops three town reads on Hat, Spongebob, and Candy
>a few mins later they say they are 'struggling to read ten pages'

I am skeptical that this timeline is pure and is how a town would approach the situation - especially on this quick of a timetable.

I would like to hear the process that led them to this and what specifically in the iso they saw - as I'd argue that if Red Cross is scum that this might be rather clearing of Candy and or Sponge/Hat with how clear it seems that the townread came from some sense of mindmelding with their anti droopy sentiment. If I am mistaken on this then I apologize for missing the context.

P#1934 is the actual 'I have reasons!!!" post. In a rolelist like this I am more inclined to maybe trust posts like this.

If that was how much effort it took me to get through a 49 post ISO then I think I'll pass on doing one on hat for now.
@FM-Dredge

[QUOTE=FM-Not Enough Legs;1000639]Also it’s mostly just annoying to me to see Hat scumread me when I feel like I’ve been the towniest person in the thread most of the time~ But that’s just OMGUS from my part~ Though Hat’s read was never actually explained anyways initially so~ (If I recall correctly; the scumread of Hat onto me is pure OMGUS which was never elaborated on despite me asking for it~)

Will this be my last goodnight~? Perhaps~ Or perhaps not~~
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careful you're about to exceed the ~ cap for posting. You only get 100 ~'s per day phase.

Originally Posted by FM-Not Enough Legs

Also it’s mostly just annoying to me to see Hat scumread me when I feel like I’ve been the towniest person in the thread most of the time~ But that’s just OMGUS from my part~ Though Hat’s read was never actually explained anyways initially so~ (If I recall correctly; the scumread of Hat onto me is pure OMGUS which was never elaborated on despite me asking for it~)

Will this be my last goodnight~? Perhaps~ Or perhaps not~~

careful you're about to exceed the ~ cap for posting. You only get 100 ~'s per day phase.

'I mean I'm still going to do it, I will just take this opportunity to be salty about being told to do it'

I put this in spoiler. It doesn't show up for me so that makes my third failed attempt at spoilering. fuck me i guess

'I mean I'm still going to do it, I will just take this opportunity to be salty about being told to do it'

I put this in spoiler. It doesn't show up for me so that makes my third failed attempt at spoilering. fuck me i guess

[QUOTE=FM-Dredge;1000636]Zomg and Droop, ISO two players; Red Cross and Hat. Red Cross is a quick ISO. Skip Top Hat's rapping and go to the point where they say they got an item.

Cross reference the two with timing, VCA etc and then figure out why Red Cross swapped from scumreading Hat to Townreading.

If it's interesting check me and Nap's recent posts about it. And the ferret thing.[/QUOTE]

I know a lot of tricks, does not mean I do them on command

[SPOILER=I mean I'm still going to do it, I will just take this opportunity to be salty about being told to do it][/SPOILER]

Originally Posted by FM-Dredge

Zomg and Droop, ISO two players; Red Cross and Hat. Red Cross is a quick ISO. Skip Top Hat's rapping and go to the point where they say they got an item.

Cross reference the two with timing, VCA etc and then figure out why Red Cross swapped from scumreading Hat to Townreading.

If it's interesting check me and Nap's recent posts about it. And the ferret thing.

I know a lot of tricks, does not mean I do them on command

[QUOTE=FM-Droopy Snout;1000631]Jokingly?

ISOing is half the fun in mafia

oops


i would also like to know this because i havent followed this in the slightest[/QUOTE]

I struggle with tunnelvision when doing ISOs. I feel that getting the vibe off of people irt helps me understand posts better. Anonymous makes reading harder for me in general, but between falling back on traditional scum hunting in ISO's and sussing it off of what's going on rn I feel more confident if I build my foundation off the latter.

Originally Posted by FM-Droopy Snout

Jokingly?

ISOing is half the fun in mafia

oops


i would also like to know this because i havent followed this in the slightest

I struggle with tunnelvision when doing ISOs. I feel that getting the vibe off of people irt helps me understand posts better. Anonymous makes reading harder for me in general, but between falling back on traditional scum hunting in ISO's and sussing it off of what's going on rn I feel more confident if I build my foundation off the latter.

[QUOTE=FM-Droopy Snout;1000624]no but i am[/QUOTE]

if the pfp fits you must acquit

wait

Originally Posted by FM-Droopy Snout

no but i am

if the pfp fits you must acquit

wait

[QUOTE=FM-The Hat;1000623]No, but I still want to hear what they say/think before I confidently put them in the town box. Totally depends on if it is actually a mechanics thing or if it's some weird social read.[/QUOTE]

Can you fill me in on what's going on with you/dredge/red cross/that item/etc so I can follow that conversation as it develops?

Originally Posted by FM-The Hat

No, but I still want to hear what they say/think before I confidently put them in the town box. Totally depends on if it is actually a mechanics thing or if it's some weird social read.

Can you fill me in on what's going on with you/dredge/red cross/that item/etc so I can follow that conversation as it develops?

[QUOTE=FM-Droopy Snout;1000621]ah ok gotcha
have you done any ISOs?[/QUOTE]

I haven't had any alcohol close enough to justify doing so.

I may give in to desperation and do some in a while to get the free town cred that effort equates to in mashes

Originally Posted by FM-Droopy Snout

ah ok gotcha
have you done any ISOs?

I haven't had any alcohol close enough to justify doing so.

I may give in to desperation and do some in a while to get the free town cred that effort equates to in mashes

[QUOTE=FM-Droopy Snout;1000614]also I just skimmed ZOMG's iso and not sure what I saw there that was towny...the iso seems very nai[/QUOTE]

Can I get your citation list and a detailed list of my posts from most to least NAI?

Anything less and I'll need an immediate retraction

Originally Posted by FM-Droopy Snout

also I just skimmed ZOMG's iso and not sure what I saw there that was towny...the iso seems very nai

Can I get your citation list and a detailed list of my posts from most to least NAI?

Anything less and I'll need an immediate retraction

[QUOTE=FM-Droopy Snout;1000612]Hello I have not interacted with you before. Do you have any other reads? Specifically on any of the high posters since I assume you have seen their posts

i third that[/QUOTE]

Sup

:kabobbles:

I was in the thread for approx 3-5 pages. I remember Ringmaster because of that direct interaction.

I remember Hat because they helped correct my formating fuckups with the UI. Their posts were generally NAI/I didn't have a lick of context to understand.

Goblin and Worg made a pretty substantial impression on me and gave off a tryhard-town vibe, but I got burned by those types a few times before in the handful of mashes I've played so I am content to wait.

Overall I'd say I lacked context of what most people were discussing enough to read into it, chose a pet issue, and then had to sleep before I could capitalize further.

Originally Posted by FM-Droopy Snout

Hello I have not interacted with you before. Do you have any other reads? Specifically on any of the high posters since I assume you have seen their posts

i third that

Sup



I was in the thread for approx 3-5 pages. I remember Ringmaster because of that direct interaction.

I remember Hat because they helped correct my formating fuckups with the UI. Their posts were generally NAI/I didn't have a lick of context to understand.

Goblin and Worg made a pretty substantial impression on me and gave off a tryhard-town vibe, but I got burned by those types a few times before in the handful of mashes I've played so I am content to wait.

Overall I'd say I lacked context of what most people were discussing enough to read into it, chose a pet issue, and then had to sleep before I could capitalize further.

[QUOTE=FM-Candyfloss;1000611]Ping me if you do get to that ISO
think they are the wolf of Pilgrim/Protag likely voting there unless my later ISO's give anything

OKAY actualyl taking a 30min break to rest eyes then will be back[/QUOTE]

When you're back (or someone else if this is a mech thing) explain 'the wolf of pilgrem/protag' ? Is this a "we have a dif check" or is this just speculation of v vs w?

Originally Posted by FM-Candyfloss

Ping me if you do get to that ISO
think they are the wolf of Pilgrim/Protag likely voting there unless my later ISO's give anything

OKAY actualyl taking a 30min break to rest eyes then will be back

When you're back (or someone else if this is a mech thing) explain 'the wolf of pilgrem/protag' ? Is this a "we have a dif check" or is this just speculation of v vs w?

[QUOTE=FM-Candyfloss;1000599]I assume on that shit list they are individually
mainly cause i don't see pilgrim and protag ever w/w from that @ all ping[/QUOTE]

I'm gonna second that protagonist hair (though having a similarly gorgeous pfp) felt a bit too... 'showy' in their posting for what seemed like meh dictatorial posts. If I lose my sanity enough to do an ISO tonight it'll probably be there.

It reminded me a bit of a lighter-handed version of what Amrock did in MU Annimash last year.

Originally Posted by FM-Candyfloss

I assume on that shit list they are individually
mainly cause i don't see pilgrim and protag ever w/w from that @ all ping

I'm gonna second that protagonist hair (though having a similarly gorgeous pfp) felt a bit too... 'showy' in their posting for what seemed like meh dictatorial posts. If I lose my sanity enough to do an ISO tonight it'll probably be there.

It reminded me a bit of a lighter-handed version of what Amrock did in MU Annimash last year.

Though I normally don't mash-pace... something about coming into a thread without the pressure to read the thousands of posts since last time is refreshing. I feel like on my own perogative I can clock in, do what I can, and come back later.

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I should perhaps not be playing in this game given my irl time crunch lately, but I can atleast give an hour a day for now until things clear up.

What stood out to me last time was Ringmaster making a lot of excuses for why they didn't engage people who disagreed (~P#1600)

I miss anything fun since? Please do interact.

Though I normally don't mash-pace... something about coming into a thread without the pressure to read the thousands of posts since last time is refreshing. I feel like on my own perogative I can clock in, do what I can, and come back later.



I should perhaps not be playing in this game given my irl time crunch lately, but I can atleast give an hour a day for now until things clear up.

What stood out to me last time was Ringmaster making a lot of excuses for why they didn't engage people who disagreed (~P#1600)

I miss anything fun since? Please do interact.

[QUOTE=FM-Sad Super Saiyan;998382]tell me you haven't read the OPs without telling me you haven't read the OPs :P[/QUOTE]

:slowpoke:

reading =/= committing to perfect memory

Originally Posted by FM-Sad Super Saiyan

tell me you haven't read the OPs without telling me you haven't read the OPs :P

reading =/= committing to perfect memory

[QUOTE=FM-The Hat;998358]This feels like a neutral alt-win con claim to me[/QUOTE]

are alt win cons a thing in this rolelist? have hosts clarified?

Originally Posted by FM-The Hat

This feels like a neutral alt-win con claim to me

are alt win cons a thing in this rolelist? have hosts clarified?

[QUOTE=FM-Ringmaster;998340]I don’t know why they wanted match higher it was a one line comment, this kinda feels like a tall order when I’m just trying to give my thoughts and kinda see if anyone interacts with those thoughts, I’m not exactly pressing anyone too hard (I was pressing hair but the most notable things was everyone speaking up against that rather than hair specifically)[/QUOTE]

yeah but like

if town you there sees someone see the same thing and come to the opposite conclusion why not follow it? It either leads to a better understanding of that player's alignment, or you get your own read challenged and progress it's depth from there.

Originally Posted by FM-Ringmaster

I don’t know why they wanted match higher it was a one line comment, this kinda feels like a tall order when I’m just trying to give my thoughts and kinda see if anyone interacts with those thoughts, I’m not exactly pressing anyone too hard (I was pressing hair but the most notable things was everyone speaking up against that rather than hair specifically)

yeah but like

if town you there sees someone see the same thing and come to the opposite conclusion why not follow it? It either leads to a better understanding of that player's alignment, or you get your own read challenged and progress it's depth from there.

[QUOTE=FM-Ringmaster;998315]When I came in I noticed people town reading hair and then I post a read about match acting sus and then I notice someone saying they should be higher in a readlist[/QUOTE]

Have you gotten anything out of these interactions? Have you pressed them for why itt? on the match one specifically tell me what you saw and why they disagreed.

:jigglypuff:

Originally Posted by FM-Ringmaster

When I came in I noticed people town reading hair and then I post a read about match acting sus and then I notice someone saying they should be higher in a readlist

Have you gotten anything out of these interactions? Have you pressed them for why itt? on the match one specifically tell me what you saw and why they disagreed.

[QUOTE=FM-Ringmaster;998302]Every time I post reads or have reads I immediately notice someone with different opinions and think about how wrong they are. (SARCASM POST)[/QUOTE]

explain the sarcasm like i've been here for five minutes

who is being shaded here lol

Originally Posted by FM-Ringmaster

Every time I post reads or have reads I immediately notice someone with different opinions and think about how wrong they are. (SARCASM POST)

explain the sarcasm like i've been here for five minutes

who is being shaded here lol

[QUOTE=FM-The Great Flood;998277]This should be a hideous and bad pfp only game tbh. This is betrayal!!![/QUOTE]

As mentioned I am perfect, even my BBCoding errors are all apart of the grand plan

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Originally Posted by FM-The Great Flood

This should be a hideous and bad pfp only game tbh. This is betrayal!!!

As mentioned I am perfect, even my BBCoding errors are all apart of the grand plan

Is there a list of users who have not posted or a way to see post count numbers? Apologies for all the UI questions

Is there a list of users who have not posted or a way to see post count numbers? Apologies for all the UI questions