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    ►►Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)◄◄

    Ookay , I dont have anything else relevant to claim and you dont believe it so no point focusing on mech stuff.

    I think it'll be pretty clear what I did if my rolecard is flipped and it isnt something that'll clear me
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    ►►Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)◄◄

    I can attempt to Hero-Shot but idt thats optimal because how wounds and ITAs work so probably best used in someone that is likely to be blasted afterwards hmmyes
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    ►►Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)◄◄

    What are the shot lists?

    Like, I know Im prob going to be there but who else should I shoot ?
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    Anyways i dont plan against me being blasted since I understand that Im PoE without any real clear atp.
    Noting that only the sent to kill PoE just feels bad and is something that could go very wrong with any mech assumption gone wrong / someone able to multistask it and blah blah blah
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Old Lickilicky View Post
    This make The Great Flood more likely to be the mafia killer ngl, who else beside great flood couldve done it? Choo?
    Dont you think that unless Im last wolf or just partner with Breakup if what you claim is true after being considered as a yeet yesterday commiting the kill is a bit of unnecesary risk?

    Ngl I thought it was likely that Minnie stabbed me this night
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Autumn View Post
    because i just realized (just realized... pretty close to sod lol i just wanted responses to my questions XD) that actually mr clean did put the kill on kirby as first in ooo that night

    and i'm pretty sure that's why everyone else's actions on that slot have kept failing

    why did yours not fail lol
    That was what I was thinking when you specifically asked "before" yeah. I even asked the hosts for Mr. Clean role interaction wowee
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Autumn View Post
    i'm. honestly not sure if i believe this or if you just figured out what i was getting at with those questions lol
    To be completely honest I think both, but maybe Im thinking another thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-The Great Flood View Post
    Yeah, the no motion detected feedback would be sent
    (Unless someone visits their corpse hmmyes)
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Autumn View Post
    so you'd still get that "no one visited" as a result if that happened? your action wouldn't be just blocked because of them being dead before you target them?
    Yeah, the no motion detected feedback would be sent
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Catnip View Post
    A minor mod error was made, the SoD post should have included mention that FM-Catnip visited FM-Lipstick’s mother last night.
    Did she have nice lips?
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    ►►Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)◄◄

    So 4p7 Rolecoped Catnip , and it has been announced tha they acted on Lipstick last night? Im following that correctly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Autumn View Post
    can you rephrase that last line?
    Basically I wont detect any actions made before I install the camera (Regardless if they are killing actions which I cannot see or not)
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Protagonist Hair View Post
    throwback to pilgrim and pizza/pareil calling me 3p on d1

    fun times
    Someone is calling you 3p or why are you bringing this up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Autumn View Post
    also if you for some random reason wanted to watch dead players, would you be able to do that?

    (not like "died in the same night", but "has already died before you tried to watch them")

    (i promise i have a reason i'm asking this, i have an idea about something :P)
    I can not target players who were already dead.

    I can target players who die in the same night. (As in, I can only target between the living players after EoD)

    For the last question, in the case they die the same night but before I put the camera, I wouldnt detect it anyways since I do not see kp , but if I wouldnt detect actions that go "before" me installing
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Peekaboo View Post
    im thinking Catnips claim is villagery
    mech blah blah blah mech
    You said it better than me :hmmyes:
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Lipstick View Post
    I'm being VIGILANT

    And it kind of doesn't seem like a natural thought I don't know
    Like I totally get the logic
    That's not the problem
    Logic is overrated

    But I should've been sleeping long time ago
    With mech where roles are agnostic. The best way to read someone if they are using it from a town perspective or a wolfy one. It should be a natural thought if you are considering someones actions tbh
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Autumn View Post
    (i thought it might've been tmi that catnip used the action that way lol. especially that part asking about roleblocks - knowing they actually did get blocked bc they didnt see a visit lol)
    tbh I dont know what to say , I see it as pretty simple mech logic and a bit bonkers to even be considered TMI but im PoE regardless here so whatever put your minds at ease I guess
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Lipstick View Post
    Or you had a little bit of a slip of the pen
    And revealed here and now that wolves knew that Yellow was going to get killed

    I will remember that for if you flip wolf
    Like. Read what Catnip role does, imagine yourself as a wolf. What do you use that role for?

    Use it on wolf that seem to be in danger for town. I think you are being a little too oblivious to logic here(?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Autumn View Post
    (i'm assuming you didn't get response to the dead player question yet)

    (sorry i'm impatient lol)
    Still no response no
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Lipstick View Post
    Or you had a little bit of a slip of the pen
    And revealed here and now that wolves knew that Yellow was going to get killed

    I will remember that for if you flip wolf
    I think its a pretty obvious read tho?
    Specially in big games, the second wagon after a day usually gets blasted by town /shrug
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Autumn View Post
    and you've only been claiming results from one camera?
    Im reserving what does the camera on me for. Since it doesnt provide anything relevant rn and its best kept hidden. I revealed the security cameras feedback on others basically yeah
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Autumn View Post
    do you have both installed rn or not?
    yes
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    Unless I am not undersanding the role correctly wowee
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Lipstick View Post
    Why would they use it on Yellow snow?
    Wasnt Yellow snow almost yeeted with Hippo claiming blood for them? I used the camera on yellow snow thinking that if they were a wolf, it was almost and obvious protection.

    For W!Catnip there it could've been protecting a teammate and also gaining a kill if succesful which seemed like super viable
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Autumn View Post
    how many cameras do you have in use rn? just the one on chibi or something else also?
    The counter is 2 for what I have on myself yeah. I can uninstall a camera and install it on another player on the same night if I want tho
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Four Past Seven View Post
    I just had a preety sucky IRL day so I might not be catching up with the past 600 posts any time soon.

    Feedback dumping.

    I checked Catnip with guess for killing and they're a "kill stealer" role where they apply lvl 1 block and lvl 25 protect to players. If they prevent a death that, if not for their ability (I assume might includes role-blocks in certain cases), which would have happened then they get a point. At 1, 3, 5, and 7 points they get a 1x silent lvl 1 terminate day-vig (think of it as an always-hit ITA that kills unless there is protection). They must use this day-vig in the following day of obtaining it.

    Not exact wording due to roolz but its preety close I would think.

    My watch provided no results, I will not be elaborating on this because I think it serves town better if I don't for the time being.

    I've also been informed that someone took an interest in copying my role. I don't know who that was, but maybe they can confirm my past claims? Honestly probably town whoever that was, I'm only an investigator role / ITA buffer and imo wolves would want any other ability type than investigative rn.

    I'm now officially at 4 risk and since I'm above 3 I can now disclose that I started out the game with a 1x shield (think of it as a passive vest, flavored as the government bailing me out). I don't know if its ever been used, but if it hadn't then its definitely gone now and there's no way I can get it back. I've been preety lucky in keeping my risk below 3 up to this point, in fact Player 2's commute helped me a lot there. I have breadcrumbed the existence of the shield -- it was what I sorta wanted to check back when we had those status-checking reward items from the walrus.
    Ohhh thats pretty neat role. If true I think they could've used it on Yellow Snow if they were wolfing no? Did they claim to be rbed or anything for that night?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Mining Peep View Post
    I did claim it failed day 4 tho so that's not a new claim
    Oh gotcha. Did the feedback say you were rbed or something similar, didnt work or how?
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    Also it was said in thread that peep acted on Yellow Snow? Pls someone tell me no because I'd feel so dumb if I missed it yesterday. I want to do some hood blaming smh
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Eyescream View Post
    Regardless of alignment, I feel like you have such a cool role
    Its really cool yeah! If only the people I targeted didnt die I could have so much more info but Skill Issue on my part honestly
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Autumn View Post
    can you try to put camera on someone already dead?

    i'm assuming no if dead dont count for that camera maximum?

    (please tell me i'm wrong we could do soemthing very fun if you can target dead lol)
    Will ask! Im guessing no aswell because otherwise I should still be receiving the feedback from the corpses of Oink and Yellow Snow lol but we'll see
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Autumn View Post
    also if you for some random reason wanted to watch dead players, would you be able to do that?

    (not like "died in the same night", but "has already died before you tried to watch them")

    (i promise i have a reason i'm asking this, i have an idea about something :P)
    The dead dont count for my maximum number of cameras. Are you asking if I try to put a camera on someone already dead or a target that dies the same night scenario?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Autumn View Post
    you're absolutely sure the feedback was "camera didn't detect any motion"?
    I did check the feedback notification yes. "No motion detected" for the camera feedback on Yellow snow I dont want to copy the feedback word by word but yeh
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-The Great Flood View Post
    Im back , from what I skimmed it seems that I wont be leaving PoE but I think that's fine. As long as unity is not broken I think just following along the PoE will be alright.

    As for my claim I dont have any particular useful info because I skill issued it mostly. Still I wont fully claim and only claim what I've got so far that honestly is not much.
    I can install Security cameras on people , once a camera is setup I receive passively watcher information from them.
    Once I have a security camera on someone there are other things that I can do but since I havent done it yet its not worth to claim it :hmmyes:



    N1 I put a camera on myself and [Redacted] . Dont have watcher info for that action
    N2 Camera on Oink -> Feedback was gibberish , but I think that the result said they were visited by ZOMG.
    N3 Camera on Yellow Snow -> No one visited them (Was expecting to see if someone protected them in case they were wolf. No protections leads me to believe that the wolves dont have any (or they sacrificed them¿?)



    I wont claim who I am putting a camera on rn . But if there is a target that would be optimal in mech let me know (I already submitted tho just in case because close is near)
    Anyways the cameras may be cursed because everytume I set up a vigilancy camera on someone they end up dying shortly so the passive feedback for the followings night is moot. I can only have 2 cameras set-up at the same time but for now that wasnt a problem for me at all woweee
    Anime Protag here I put all my night actions kinda
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Autumn View Post
    the next question. i quoted it now :P
    that's the actually important one lol
    Yeh I was going through the mention notifications lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Autumn View Post
    @FM-The Great Flood basically what i want to hear is that you really got that "no one visited" as a result on n3? you are sure you weren't blocked or anything?

    because if you can swear that it was "no one visited", i think we might just get a second wolf also lol. because i see no reasons why town would lie about having visited them lol, and someone told me that they did do that XD
    Specifically I received that the camera didnt detect any motion.
    With Oink I received the feedback that ZOMG visited them (Or that is what I infered from the gibberish) , and from Minnie that they were visited by Ringmaster
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Autumn View Post
    @FM-The Great Flood can you tell the exact conditions of your role? i think i just realized something which might out someone else also (i know someone, outside of mining peep, who also supposedly visited kirby that night you watched them). but i literally need to know everything else first (like how does your role work, who all can you target and see, etc. don't want to go too far without being sure about things)
    I install a camera on a player. After I have a Camera installed, at End of night I receive the feedback of who visited each target I have a camera on. (I have a maximum of cameras I can have set up, 2. That didnt come into play because so far my cameras cursed people with death) .
    The cameras does not detect killing actions, but other than that I should see everything .

    If you want to ask something specific about it lmk, but should be pretty basic
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Autumn View Post
    @FM-The Great Flood explain your target choice?
    Minnie has kp-ish with the ability to wound, I think that regardless their alignment is the best role to have "leashed" .
    They cant lie about being rbed or redirected, and if town and someone tries to mess with it they would be on camera
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    Heyo, going to drop my feedback and fly away. I'll try to be here later

    Minnie was visited by only Ringmaster this night
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    ►►Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)◄◄

    Also I am infering / assuming that Platypus needs to cycle between fake poison and then real poison or something of the sorts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Lipstick View Post
    Did @FM-Platypus have a good answer for why they chose to fake poison someone from my wolf pool. I would think it would be more beneficial to just kill them? That was a bit weird to me. I don't know
    I am not platypus, but I think the fake poison its meh. And if that is what kept people away from.shooting at possible town kp then I think its a net good tbh
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    ►►Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)◄◄

    Town never rescind

    Autumn
    Lipstick
    Peekaboo
    Ringmaster
    Tiny Hippo


    Town

    Eyescream
    Chromatography
    Chibi Minnie
    Lassie

    PoE = Rest of the game

    Im sure there are slots that can go into the town category if I look more into them, but still with this I think game is pretty winnable
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-The Great Flood View Post
    Yellow Snow role didnt have anything that let them avoid Roleblocks no?
    And even then I think I should be able to see them target them?
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    ►►Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)◄◄

    Yellow Snow role didnt have anything that let them avoid Roleblocks no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Autumn View Post
    i thought @FM-Mining Peep roleblocked yellow snow on n3
    Oh , thats odd then hmmmm
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-The Great Flood View Post
    I think roles / effects when created should be alignment agnostic so unless you think they arelying with whatever they are claiming its moot
    And if thats the case I think 4p7 claimed a sort of rolecop? So should be a easy to check lie if so
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Chromatography View Post
    How exactly is it town++ to have an extremely difficult to activate kp?
    I think roles / effects when created should be alignment agnostic so unless you think they arelying with whatever they are claiming its moot
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    ►►Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)◄◄

    And from n2 Oink was a mixed bag that I honestly thought would live much longer so the passive feedback would be more worth but LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Autumn View Post
    you sure that was your n3 results? can you see kills?
    I cant see killing power , thats why I acted on Yellow snow. Was aiming to see a possible protection there
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    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Chromatography View Post
    Why not watch villagey people? For wolfy people, it's more likely to just be powerful PRs that interact with them.
    Because I dont see killing power, I think its best to watch sus people that may get boost from partners
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    Also tbh I didnt expect Chroma to live until n5 but its kinda hype to now see what their self clear will be
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