Oh, I see what you mean. Earlier I talked about looking through autumn’s posts and I came to the conclusion that I could see evidence of them being town if I see them being treated differently to other strong wolves by flipped wolves and I couldn’t really see any of that, so I shelved it and moved on with my life. Then I go find stuff about eye and I see them being treated differently by scarf.
Oh, I see what you mean. Earlier I talked about looking through autumn’s posts and I came to the conclusion that I could see evidence of them being town if I see them being treated differently to other strong wolves by flipped wolves and I couldn’t really see any of that, so I shelved it and moved on with my life. Then I go find stuff about eye and I see them being treated differently by scarf.
[QUOTE=FM-Lassie;1015473]did you mean to say Autumn instead of Eye? I don't see how the post makes sense otherwise[/QUOTE]
No? They were talking to eye, that was their conversation back and forth for a little bit.
Originally Posted by FM-Lassie
did you mean to say Autumn instead of Eye? I don't see how the post makes sense otherwise
No? They were talking to eye, that was their conversation back and forth for a little bit.
Their frustration is they want to be wolf read for [B]good[/B] reasons regardless of their alignment, and I’ve read through their posts to see where they were coming from and they are completely right, they don’t have any strong wolf pushes to put to their name, they have weak sauce pushes such as yellow snow where they said they were in a lying voice, and another wolf that I forgot the name of. They should stay in the POE and be executed esp if chrome is town. That at the case…that’s the extent of my thoughts on them, which is why I haven’t said anything till now about them, besides kinda just leaving them low in my poe.
Their frustration is they want to be wolf read for good reasons regardless of their alignment, and I’ve read through their posts to see where they were coming from and they are completely right, they don’t have any strong wolf pushes to put to their name, they have weak sauce pushes such as yellow snow where they said they were in a lying voice, and another wolf that I forgot the name of. They should stay in the POE and be executed esp if chrome is town. That at the case…that’s the extent of my thoughts on them, which is why I haven’t said anything till now about them, besides kinda just leaving them low in my poe.
[QUOTE=FM-Lassie;1015470]I like the Catnip posts
They are fun to read
I still have a lot of trouble finding their alignment though (though GTH town off of the frustration they showed. It's generally harder to show that as wolf.)[/QUOTE]
Don’t be fooled by the catnip posts they aren’t actually townie regardless of their alignment it’s a trick to fool you. I’m being serious when I say this.
Originally Posted by FM-Lassie
I like the Catnip posts
They are fun to read
I still have a lot of trouble finding their alignment though (though GTH town off of the frustration they showed. It's generally harder to show that as wolf.)
Don’t be fooled by the catnip posts they aren’t actually townie regardless of their alignment it’s a trick to fool you. I’m being serious when I say this.
tbh my progression on you has been mostly hidden, you've been in the back of my mind a lot
probably a good look calling me out on that actually[/QUOTE]
I think Eye might actually just be town off of this. I don’t remember if I ever said this before, but I remember thinking that Autumn was the type of player who, if I checked the interactions, I would expect to see scum be cautious around how they handled their slot, solely based off autumns earlier resds or how they present themselves. Scarf treats eye and govlin much differently imo which I think is evidende of eye just being town
Originally Posted by FM-Scarf
lol oops, sorry
tbh my progression on you has been mostly hidden, you've been in the back of my mind a lot
probably a good look calling me out on that actually
I think Eye might actually just be town off of this. I don’t remember if I ever said this before, but I remember thinking that Autumn was the type of player who, if I checked the interactions, I would expect to see scum be cautious around how they handled their slot, solely based off autumns earlier resds or how they present themselves. Scarf treats eye and govlin much differently imo which I think is evidende of eye just being town
this post has been bothering me all night. it's like they knew Monet would flip town.
looking at the flips, they also casually placed their vote on a wolf (when it couldnt change anything anymore). this is not towny mindset
considering flip, i like this
it's not over-the-top "notice meee", it's not super noticeable, it's just a genuine call-out on scum[/QUOTE]
Speaking of spew, Thinking this is pretty good for Mining. Wolf Pizza has to console their losses of Scarf and Possibly Yellow and I don’t think they go after mining for no reason if they are wolves together like this
Originally Posted by FM-Space Pizza
-vote FM-Mining Peep
this post has been bothering me all night. it's like they knew Monet would flip town.
looking at the flips, they also casually placed their vote on a wolf (when it couldnt change anything anymore). this is not towny mindset
considering flip, i like this
it's not over-the-top "notice meee", it's not super noticeable, it's just a genuine call-out on scum
Speaking of spew, Thinking this is pretty good for Mining. Wolf Pizza has to console their losses of Scarf and Possibly Yellow and I don’t think they go after mining for no reason if they are wolves together like this
[QUOTE=FM-Four Past Seven;1015460]Or they got a result from a role that doesn't exist because Yellow Snow's role seems to imply that it can manipulate investigative results -- something about appearing as town, which possibly includes being checked for what action they are using
idk about you all but I don't think I've seen any strict alignment cops this game or anything remotely to that effect except Pyramid's flip[/QUOTE]
I got word from the hosts it doesn’t affect rolecops and a rolecop who checks them would see “you appear as town” which is lol
Originally Posted by FM-Four Past Seven
Or they got a result from a role that doesn't exist because Yellow Snow's role seems to imply that it can manipulate investigative results -- something about appearing as town, which possibly includes being checked for what action they are using
idk about you all but I don't think I've seen any strict alignment cops this game or anything remotely to that effect except Pyramid's flip
I got word from the hosts it doesn’t affect rolecops and a rolecop who checks them would see “you appear as town” which is lol
[QUOTE=FM-Old Lickilicky;1015458]OKAY SO! If you rolecop mafia, you get their swapped card, not original. Upon death, their swapped rolecard is revealed, not the original.
[MENTION=46699]FM-Ringmaster[/MENTION] so uh, can you clarify what you mean by bee thing? maybe it was a redirection?[/QUOTE]
I think I was confused. They told me they got it n0, and used it on snow. I took this to mean they used it n0 but according to zomg role this is impossible, which means they used it n1. Which means they were redirected
Originally Posted by FM-Old Lickilicky
OKAY SO! If you rolecop mafia, you get their swapped card, not original. Upon death, their swapped rolecard is revealed, not the original.
@FM-Ringmaster
so uh, can you clarify what you mean by bee thing? maybe it was a redirection?
I think I was confused. They told me they got it n0, and used it on snow. I took this to mean they used it n0 but according to zomg role this is impossible, which means they used it n1. Which means they were redirected
Anyway, cough cough, something new while I’m worked up. Catnip defense is incorrect, such as CandyFloss shooting Catnip was absolutely necessary if they were wolves together. This might sound counter intuitive but people were homing into a tight POE and shooting at a lock town just means you die, no questions asked. If they are wolves together they should have figured one of them was going down and might as well try to clear the other.
Anyway, cough cough, something new while I’m worked up. Catnip defense is incorrect, such as CandyFloss shooting Catnip was absolutely necessary if they were wolves together. This might sound counter intuitive but people were homing into a tight POE and shooting at a lock town just means you die, no questions asked. If they are wolves together they should have figured one of them was going down and might as well try to clear the other.
I will note that I do like to talk a lot about mechanics, and this is very amplified by a mash type setting. I don’t know most of you. The way I go about reading people here is much more difficult and different than a regular type game. I spend a lot of time just going through ISO’s to come back empty handed despite reading them and having thoughts on them because I don’t actually believe in my thoughts being accurate, which is a notable difference to how I wolf (which you guys have no proof of since you guys don’t know who I am) where I look for things that I can push and keep them in the back of my head. It’s very easy to grasp mechanics and look for a solution to the puzzle that way, as opposed to reading into different people and how they are acting. I wouldn’t know how to catch wolves like scarf or goblin without looking at their intereactioms or who they pushed because I don’t know them! It’s very hard to read people like that. Even ZOMB I was like they were not townie, they didn’t meet this threshold despite seeming like a competent player and most people are ignoring them; so let’s keep talking about them and see what happens. My best wolf case was para and that was based off their behavior. I’m not very good in this environment, I made a joke about how my best trait was being obvuous town and everyone having to live with that. I have like, a lot more thoughts that I don’t usually share about players in the game mainly because I don’t think they are accurate, and I care more about being right and winning so I give my thoughts on things that I think may lead somewhere productive.
Like for instance, I never said this outloud but I think it’s extremly weird that FPS has a rolecop and a watcher! That seems like a busted ability! Why does a town have that so much power? I can say these things, but I dont, because well I also believe that they will eventually self resolve, so I’m not scared of being pocketed by them because it will become obvious soon. Or the fact that I thought Break’s posts actually felt good, if I recall correctly they seemed to at one point called out scarf (for shielding pyramid) which I thought showed a townie level of awareness! These thoughts I usually keep to myself as I talk about other things or read other walls, this is why a lot of my messages seem to be off tangent as I try to “help the thread”, mainly because a lot of my thoughts I really don’t think are productive or insightful enough to say, because like break could still be a wolf I don’t know them I just thought that section looked good. But yeah, this is a rant to say this is how I play town I make myself obvious town and then I try my best and I keep certain thoughts to myself!
I will note that I do like to talk a lot about mechanics, and this is very amplified by a mash type setting. I don’t know most of you. The way I go about reading people here is much more difficult and different than a regular type game. I spend a lot of time just going through ISO’s to come back empty handed despite reading them and having thoughts on them because I don’t actually believe in my thoughts being accurate, which is a notable difference to how I wolf (which you guys have no proof of since you guys don’t know who I am) where I look for things that I can push and keep them in the back of my head. It’s very easy to grasp mechanics and look for a solution to the puzzle that way, as opposed to reading into different people and how they are acting. I wouldn’t know how to catch wolves like scarf or goblin without looking at their intereactioms or who they pushed because I don’t know them! It’s very hard to read people like that. Even ZOMB I was like they were not townie, they didn’t meet this threshold despite seeming like a competent player and most people are ignoring them; so let’s keep talking about them and see what happens. My best wolf case was para and that was based off their behavior. I’m not very good in this environment, I made a joke about how my best trait was being obvuous town and everyone having to live with that. I have like, a lot more thoughts that I don’t usually share about players in the game mainly because I don’t think they are accurate, and I care more about being right and winning so I give my thoughts on things that I think may lead somewhere productive.
Like for instance, I never said this outloud but I think it’s extremly weird that FPS has a rolecop and a watcher! That seems like a busted ability! Why does a town have that so much power? I can say these things, but I dont, because well I also believe that they will eventually self resolve, so I’m not scared of being pocketed by them because it will become obvious soon. Or the fact that I thought Break’s posts actually felt good, if I recall correctly they seemed to at one point called out scarf (for shielding pyramid) which I thought showed a townie level of awareness! These thoughts I usually keep to myself as I talk about other things or read other walls, this is why a lot of my messages seem to be off tangent as I try to “help the thread”, mainly because a lot of my thoughts I really don’t think are productive or insightful enough to say, because like break could still be a wolf I don’t know them I just thought that section looked good. But yeah, this is a rant to say this is how I play town I make myself obvious town and then I try my best and I keep certain thoughts to myself!
[QUOTE=FM-Four Past Seven;1015443]I don't think its them, Ringmaster has been openly discussing role inheritance with Lassie apparently.
My very paranoid tinfoil back on mid-d4 was that Ringmaster was the Wolf leader because they were kinda obsessed with finding them + Oink was killed by the wolf leader special shot.
but considering the silent ITA did not happen on d4, I'm assuming wolf leader is dead and so is my paranoid tinfoils of Ringmaster
If the special ITA had occurred I would definitely had been role-copping them this night to verify how the role inheritance works.[/QUOTE]
You don’t actually need to rolecop me
My role is compulsive, or my old one was
Originally Posted by FM-Four Past Seven
I don't think its them, Ringmaster has been openly discussing role inheritance with Lassie apparently.
My very paranoid tinfoil back on mid-d4 was that Ringmaster was the Wolf leader because they were kinda obsessed with finding them + Oink was killed by the wolf leader special shot.
but considering the silent ITA did not happen on d4, I'm assuming wolf leader is dead and so is my paranoid tinfoils of Ringmaster
If the special ITA had occurred I would definitely had been role-copping them this night to verify how the role inheritance works.
You don’t actually need to rolecop me
My role is compulsive, or my old one was
[QUOTE=FM-Lipstick;1015440]Did you know what you were kind of obsesses with blessing wolves town reading wolves and prop up Scarf and their shot lists?
I didn't either, cause I haven't really read your posts before now
You have some good things going for you also though
But like
You're firmly downgraded to null for me
Will see if it changes when I finish the ISO
But first some sleep[/QUOTE]
Actually, I can remember the times where I did prop up scarf, and one of those times was solely because I didn’t know who to pass it to and napkin told me to pass it to scarf. I remember telling Scarf to stop posting the shotlist after we just killed two town in ITA 1. I must be a very bad wolf if ZOMB had to visit me to wound me and for me to tell dead chat to tell the other people living that ZONB was outted from disco stuff and govlin looked terrible off that. I must also be a bad wolf to never tell people what to do whenever they ask me and instead alllwing them to do whatever they want, see lassie asking me for advice on who to shoot, or other examples. I blessed whoever asked for and not many people did, because it scrambles feeeback.
Originally Posted by FM-Lipstick
Did you know what you were kind of obsesses with blessing wolves town reading wolves and prop up Scarf and their shot lists?
I didn't either, cause I haven't really read your posts before now
You have some good things going for you also though
But like
You're firmly downgraded to null for me
Will see if it changes when I finish the ISO
But first some sleep
Actually, I can remember the times where I did prop up scarf, and one of those times was solely because I didn’t know who to pass it to and napkin told me to pass it to scarf. I remember telling Scarf to stop posting the shotlist after we just killed two town in ITA 1. I must be a very bad wolf if ZOMB had to visit me to wound me and for me to tell dead chat to tell the other people living that ZONB was outted from disco stuff and govlin looked terrible off that. I must also be a bad wolf to never tell people what to do whenever they ask me and instead alllwing them to do whatever they want, see lassie asking me for advice on who to shoot, or other examples. I blessed whoever asked for and not many people did, because it scrambles feeeback.
[QUOTE=FM-Four Past Seven;1015433]Ngl kinda disappointed that turned up nothing real quick.
Could we tune down the mech speculation for the rest of the night phase? Feels like we're just grasping at a lot of things without thinking first.[/QUOTE]
It’s still sometnint
We have two unexplained town visits
I think that’s likely to due with this role , forcing people to visit to spread pollination, so that was good
but otherwise I think if we ignore mechanics I think I want to look at Cat/Chrome/TFG tomorrow
Originally Posted by FM-Four Past Seven
Ngl kinda disappointed that turned up nothing real quick.
Could we tune down the mech speculation for the rest of the night phase? Feels like we're just grasping at a lot of things without thinking first.
It’s still sometnint
We have two unexplained town visits
I think that’s likely to due with this role , forcing people to visit to spread pollination, so that was good
but otherwise I think if we ignore mechanics I think I want to look at Cat/Chrome/TFG tomorrow
[QUOTE=FM-Four Past Seven;1015429]I'm guessing I just revealed that info about myself for nothing. Oh well.
but reading what you're referring to, this means whoever Rectangle checked got something about pollination?[/QUOTE]
Yeah sorry about that, but yes, tbis means someone who is currently aligned using a polination ability n1
and was redirected I think?
are people aware if they are redirected when investigating people,
Originally Posted by FM-Four Past Seven
I'm guessing I just revealed that info about myself for nothing. Oh well.
but reading what you're referring to, this means whoever Rectangle checked got something about pollination?
Yeah sorry about that, but yes, tbis means someone who is currently aligned using a polination ability n1
and was redirected I think?
are people aware if they are redirected when investigating people,
[QUOTE=FM-Ringmaster;1015424]Wait, no, this is confusing, hold on
It couldn’t have been a tactician
Reread the ZOMB role it was given out d1
(Which means he thought it was given out n0)
I think he meant to say he checked snow n1 but that just brings up more questions rather than answers of why snow showed up as that[/QUOTE]
This still means the bee exists and this actually may explain why people are seen givisitng people they aren’t
Originally Posted by FM-Ringmaster
Wait, no, this is confusing, hold on
It couldn’t have been a tactician
Reread the ZOMB role it was given out d1
(Which means he thought it was given out n0)
I think he meant to say he checked snow n1 but that just brings up more questions rather than answers of why snow showed up as that
This still means the bee exists and this actually may explain why people are seen givisitng people they aren’t
Wait, no, this is confusing, hold on
It couldn’t have been a tactician
Reread the ZOMB role it was given out d1
(Which means he thought it was given out n0)
I think he meant to say he checked snow n1 but that just brings up more questions rather than answers of why snow showed up as that
Wait, no, this is confusing, hold on
It couldn’t have been a tactician
Reread the ZOMB role it was given out d1
(Which means he thought it was given out n0)
I think he meant to say he checked snow n1 but that just brings up more questions rather than answers of why snow showed up as that
[QUOTE=FM-Chromatography;1015419]If you need me to claim, ping me. I have no idea what's going on but no point in waiting until N5 if this can be done and over on D5.[/QUOTE]
basically a guy had an item that got part of an ability of a player, they used it n0
they used it on snow and saw an ability about polination
tbey died and told me this
so, I hold onto this, I actually said itt “I know part of Snowe ability” like a while ago, when they were still alive, snow goes “yeah I bet I know which one it is!”
but snow doesn’t have a polonatiom ability
which probably means they used to but it was swapped because of tactician
which means there’s a mafia pollinator
Originally Posted by FM-Chromatography
If you need me to claim, ping me. I have no idea what's going on but no point in waiting until N5 if this can be done and over on D5.
basically a guy had an item that got part of an ability of a player, they used it n0
they used it on snow and saw an ability about polination
tbey died and told me this
so, I hold onto this, I actually said itt “I know part of Snowe ability” like a while ago, when they were still alive, snow goes “yeah I bet I know which one it is!”
but snow doesn’t have a polonatiom ability
which probably means they used to but it was swapped because of tactician
which means there’s a mafia pollinator
[COLOR="#FFFFFF"][B][SIZE=4]FM-Popcorn Axolotl has been killed.[/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]
[B][COLOR="#FFFFFF"][SIZE=3]Their Flip[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
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[td][SPOILER=Flip][LEFT][SIZE=4][B][COLOR="#FFFFFF"]Alignment:[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR="#008000"]Town[/COLOR][/B][/SIZE]
[SIZE=4][B][COLOR="#FFFFFF"]Role:[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR="#008000"]Swarm of Bees and The Beekeeper[/COLOR][/B][/SIZE]
[U][COLOR="#FFFFFF"][SIZE=4][B]Factional Abilities:[/B][/SIZE][/U][/COLOR]
Town is the uninformed majority and receives no factional abilities.
[U][COLOR="#FFFFFF"][SIZE=4][B]Win Condition:[/B][/SIZE][/U][/COLOR]
Eliminate all anti-town factions.
[U][COLOR="#FFFFFF"][SIZE=4][B]Rolecard:[/B][/SIZE][/U][/COLOR]
A beekeeper since she was young she always felt more secure around them, treating them with more respect than the people around her. The swarm was a special breed unlike any other, their strength and intelligence stronger than all others. The pair trusts each other with everything they have and work as one entity.
[B]Swarm Of Bees[/B] (Passive): Your swarm of bees has its ups and downs relying on them to help you in this game.
[LIST][*]You can only perform one role action by default however can perform an additional unique role action per item type you use in a night. Max 4 role actions in a Night.
[*]All role actions you perform show both you and a swarm of bees visiting your target.
[*]You are immune to kills that trigger off you visiting.
[/LIST]
[B]Swarm: Protocol [COLOR="#70AD47"][B][COLOR="#70AD47"][B]Protection[/B][/COLOR][/B][/COLOR] (3 Charges)[/B]: Target player gains 1 [COLOR="#CCECFF"][B][COLOR="#CCECFF"][B]Shielding[/B][/COLOR][/B][/COLOR] tonight. If this [COLOR="#CCECFF"][B][COLOR="#CCECFF"][B]Shielding[/B][/COLOR][/B][/COLOR] prevents a kill, lose one additional charge.
[B]Swarm: Order [COLOR="#ED7D31"][B][COLOR="#ED7D31"][B]Attack[/B][/COLOR][/B][/COLOR] (3 Charges)[/B]: ITA [COLOR="#ED7D31"][B][COLOR="#ED7D31"][B]Attacks[/B][/COLOR][/B][/COLOR] at your target player tomorrow are rolled with advantage (i.e. roll twice and pick higher roll). If the target dies by anything but an ITA before the next Night, you lose an additional charge. If the target dies to an ITA recharge two of your abilities by one.
[B]Swarm: Operation Order (2 Charges)[/B]: All non-killing role actions made by your target receive the Strong-Willed modifier.
[B]Swarm: Rushed Robbery (3 Charges)[/B]: Steal a random item target player has. If they have no items but would gain one tonight, steal that one instead. If you successfully steal an item you gain a charge back.
[B]Swarm: Host [COLOR="#70AD47"][B][COLOR="#70AD47"][B]Protection[/B][/COLOR][/B][/COLOR] (1 Charge)[/B]: Gain 1 [COLOR="#CCECFF"][B][COLOR="#CCECFF"][B]Shielding[/B][/COLOR][/B][/COLOR] for the duration of the night. You can't gain charges in this ability by your own abilities and lose 1 charge from all other abilities upon use.[/LEFT][/SPOILER]
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[td][B][COLOR="#FFFFFF"]Players Alive[/COLOR][/B][/td]
[td][B][COLOR="#FFFFFF"]Graveyard[/COLOR][/B][/td]
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[MENTION=46661]FM-Autumn[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46662]FM-Bad Hair Day[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46663]FM-Breakup[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46664]FM-Candyfloss[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46665]FM-Catnip[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46666]FM-Chibi Minnie[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46667]FM-Choo-Choo[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46668]FM-Chromatography[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46670]FM-Disco Dancer[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46671]FM-Dredge[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46672]FM-Droopy Snout[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46673]FM-Eyescream[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46675]FM-Four Past Seven[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46676]FM-Goblin and Worg[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46677]FM-Goldfish Bowl[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46679]FM-Hon Hon Hon[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46716]FM-Joycat[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46680]FM-Lassie[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46681]FM-Lipstick[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46682]FM-Matchstick Man[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46683]FM-Mining Peep[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46684]FM-Monet Rocket[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46685]FM-Mr Clean[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46686]FM-Naptime[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46688]FM-Oink[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46689]FM-Old Lickilicky[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46690]FM-Pareidolia[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46691]FM-Peekaboo[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46693]FM-Platypus[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46694]FM-Player 2[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46696]FM-Protagonist Hair[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46698]FM-Red Cross[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46699]FM-Ringmaster[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46700]FM-Sad Super Saiyan[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46701]FM-Scarf[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46703]FM-Snuggles[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46705]FM-Space Pizza[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46706]FM-Talking Anthill[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46707]FM-The Great Flood[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46708]FM-The Hat[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46711]FM-Tiny Hippo[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46714]FM-Yellow Snow[/MENTION]
[MENTION=46715]FM-ZOMG[/MENTION]
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[B][COLOR="#008000"]FM-Pilgrim Anatomy[/COLOR][/B]
[B][COLOR="#008000"]FM-Grate[/COLOR][/B]
[B][COLOR="#008000"]FM-Fluffernuts[/COLOR][/B]
[B][COLOR="#008000"]FM-Sonrisa[/COLOR][/B]
[B][COLOR="#008000"]FM-Tinnitus[/COLOR][/B]
[B][COLOR="#008000"]FM-Turquoise[/COLOR][/B]
[B][COLOR="#008000"]FM-Heterochromia[/COLOR][/B]
[B][COLOR="#008000"]FM-Angry Rectangle[/COLOR][/B]
[B][COLOR="#008000"]FM-Not Enough Legs[/COLOR][/B]
[B][COLOR="#B22222"]FM-Pyramid[/COLOR][/B]
[B][COLOR="#008000"]FM-Decepticon[/COLOR][/B]
[B][COLOR="#B22222"]FM-Wakka Wakka[/COLOR][/B]
[B][COLOR="#B22222"]FM-Thumbs Up[/COLOR][/B]
[B][COLOR="#008000"]FM-Popcorn Axolotl[/COLOR][/B]
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Almost had a panic attacking thinking the bees talked about this person but there’s no mention of pollination here
Originally Posted by Lumi
KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game The shot hit!
FM-Popcorn Axolotl has been killed.
Their Flip
Spoiler : Flip :
Alignment:Town Role:Swarm of Bees and The Beekeeper
Factional Abilities:
Town is the uninformed majority and receives no factional abilities.
Win Condition:
Eliminate all anti-town factions.
Rolecard:
A beekeeper since she was young she always felt more secure around them, treating them with more respect than the people around her. The swarm was a special breed unlike any other, their strength and intelligence stronger than all others. The pair trusts each other with everything they have and work as one entity.
Swarm Of Bees (Passive): Your swarm of bees has its ups and downs relying on them to help you in this game.
You can only perform one role action by default however can perform an additional unique role action per item type you use in a night. Max 4 role actions in a Night.
All role actions you perform show both you and a swarm of bees visiting your target.
You are immune to kills that trigger off you visiting.
Swarm: Protocol Protection (3 Charges): Target player gains 1 Shielding tonight. If this Shielding prevents a kill, lose one additional charge.
Swarm: Order Attack (3 Charges): ITA Attacks at your target player tomorrow are rolled with advantage (i.e. roll twice and pick higher roll). If the target dies by anything but an ITA before the next Night, you lose an additional charge. If the target dies to an ITA recharge two of your abilities by one.
Swarm: Operation Order (2 Charges): All non-killing role actions made by your target receive the Strong-Willed modifier.
Swarm: Rushed Robbery (3 Charges): Steal a random item target player has. If they have no items but would gain one tonight, steal that one instead. If you successfully steal an item you gain a charge back.
Swarm: Host Protection (1 Charge): Gain 1 Shielding for the duration of the night. You can't gain charges in this ability by your own abilities and lose 1 charge from all other abilities upon use.
Protag claimed to do stuff with music links and is confirmed by the walrus, unlikely to deal with bees
Unless mining is showing us a bee documentary I also doubt it’s them
Protag claimed to do stuff with music links and is confirmed by the walrus, unlikely to deal with bees
Unless mining is showing us a bee documentary I also doubt it’s them
[QUOTE=FM-Lassie;1015406]So
do we massclaim now? also do you know anything else about the role, other than it being able to pollinate players[/QUOTE]
Know nothing else
They paraphrased it, but if they didn’t like use completely different new words (for some reason using pollination) then it’s gold information
Originally Posted by FM-Lassie
So
do we massclaim now? also do you know anything else about the role, other than it being able to pollinate players
Know nothing else
They paraphrased it, but if they didn’t like use completely different new words (for some reason using pollination) then it’s gold information
They learned one sentence from yellow ability: if a polinated player visits a non polinated player, they are polinated or Vice versa
This was paraphrased but
They learned one sentence from yellow ability: if a polinated player visits a non polinated player, they are polinated or Vice versa
This was paraphrased but
[QUOTE=FM-Lassie;1015400]hm
when did they say this? also how would they know, before Yellow died[/QUOTE]
Angry targeted yellow with a spector n0, learning part of his role
It said something to do with pollination
Which isn’t yellow snows ability
Which means mafia used a tactician to swap it
LMAO
Originally Posted by FM-Lassie
hm
when did they say this? also how would they know, before Yellow died
Angry targeted yellow with a spector n0, learning part of his role
It said something to do with pollination
Which isn’t yellow snows ability
Which means mafia used a tactician to swap it
LMAO
I just kinda realized, there’s something wrong with yellow snow card. Dead told me he has an ability rekayed to pollination , yet yellow snow doesn’t talk about bees at all
Mm
Guys
I just kinda realized, there’s something wrong with yellow snow card. Dead told me he has an ability rekayed to pollination , yet yellow snow doesn’t talk about bees at all
[QUOTE=FM-Lipstick;1015389]What is this referring to?
The people you blessed?
Look at me suddenly caring about mech[/QUOTE]
Yeah. I asked everyone if they would be fine with having their feedback scrambled night two and then I blessed people who didn’t mind. Everyone I blessed d1 and d2 got to speak to the entire dead people n2 (anyone who died n1 or d2)
Originally Posted by FM-Lipstick
What is this referring to?
The people you blessed?
Look at me suddenly caring about mech
Yeah. I asked everyone if they would be fine with having their feedback scrambled night two and then I blessed people who didn’t mind. Everyone I blessed d1 and d2 got to speak to the entire dead people n2 (anyone who died n1 or d2)
[QUOTE=FM-Four Past Seven;1010886]checking back in for a moment
I can personally verify everything he has claimed about his role to be very true and how Ring has been using it is very towny -- as they said, they very well could have poisoned (or applied some very bad debuff) to 7 players by comboing a feast and the moon power he used on first day
I know this because, aside from my temp ITA buff action, he was my rolecop target on n1.[/QUOTE]
Ige somehow missed this the entire game
Originally Posted by FM-Four Past Seven
checking back in for a moment
I can personally verify everything he has claimed about his role to be very true and how Ring has been using it is very towny -- as they said, they very well could have poisoned (or applied some very bad debuff) to 7 players by comboing a feast and the moon power he used on first day
I know this because, aside from my temp ITA buff action, he was my rolecop target on n1.
There's no guarantee that we actually know what we think we know about the mech
Maybe I'm just
Me
But I haven't cared about it all game
And it seems to work ok[/QUOTE]
That’s also fair
Mech is kinda like a maze with so many flips where we can’t figure out their actions, I’m just curious about this mech in particular because goblin himself said that he had something to do with my blessing failing…which it did, but his role doesn’t stop blessings
I’ll stop talking about it and focus on something else
Originally Posted by FM-Lipstick
Also, Ringmaster
I
Just
Don't know if I care about mech at all
There's no guarantee that we actually know what we think we know about the mech
Maybe I'm just
Me
But I haven't cared about it all game
And it seems to work ok
That’s also fair
Mech is kinda like a maze with so many flips where we can’t figure out their actions, I’m just curious about this mech in particular because goblin himself said that he had something to do with my blessing failing…which it did, but his role doesn’t stop blessings
I’ll stop talking about it and focus on something else
[QUOTE=FM-Four Past Seven;1015371]looking back again at my n1 cop of you
it could be theoretically "stopped" if redirected to someone who was already receiving said blessing
but it makes no sense as to why Worg would fake-claim about that unless he was preparing a redirector fake-claim -- but then why would worg claim about that and not some other hypothetical wolf that is actually doing the redirect?
frankly it feels like this topic is an implicit red herring -- there's possibly important info behind it, but in terms of narrowing that down with certainty is a really tough ask and I'm not sure if its a valuable expenditure of anyone's time[/QUOTE]
you copped me n1?
also yeah fair lipstick
Originally Posted by FM-Four Past Seven
looking back again at my n1 cop of you
it could be theoretically "stopped" if redirected to someone who was already receiving said blessing
but it makes no sense as to why Worg would fake-claim about that unless he was preparing a redirector fake-claim -- but then why would worg claim about that and not some other hypothetical wolf that is actually doing the redirect?
frankly it feels like this topic is an implicit red herring -- there's possibly important info behind it, but in terms of narrowing that down with certainty is a really tough ask and I'm not sure if its a valuable expenditure of anyone's time
Wait, PROTAG couldn’t have stopped me
I was roleblock immune
Look at BHD flip
Their appretince could only stop people who weren’t roleblock immune
Something else stopped me
Wait, PROTAG couldn’t have stopped me
I was roleblock immune
Look at BHD flip
Their appretince could only stop people who weren’t roleblock immune
Something else stopped me
Town:
Lip
Hippo
Lickity
Peek
Player 2
Chibi
Lassie
Autumn
Platypus
FPS
Choo Choo
Break
Eye
Mining
Chromo
TF
Catnip
Protag
Mafia:
Is my readlist.
Notes:
Goblin claimed that it was their fault that my action was blocked during the night. Their role could not have blocked it and the player who is claiming to have blocked it is stating they had no communication with each other. Either there is another mafia rolestopper, Goblin misunderstood their role, or Protagonist is mafia. I think it’s unlikely they misunderstood their role and I believe they would be as confused as I am as to why my action was blocked there instead of claiming they did it.
I think it’s risky for Scarf to falsely claim they investigated The Flood N1 with the existence of trackers or watchers unless they actually went to that player and checked them. I think it’s likely they actually just checked the player, makes sense for mafia to do so. I did some investigation into the interactions of flood and I do not get the hype around them looking terrible from the flipped wolves, it’s not worse than Droopy (who I thought would flip wolf). I think their posts have also been relatively fine. Have to admit though, I think the slot does need to die at some point, I’m just voicing some of my concerns there.
Lassie claimed to have hooded scarf which doesn’t make sense if they are wolves together. They have also shot a wolf without me directing it (even though they asked me to direct it) which makes me trust them more.
I think Platypus claim can be verified by a rolecop so we can see what conditionals we are dealing with. If mafia could abuse the conditionals to wolf side, I’ll clear them, if not, they will be lowered. They are up there for now because they have been town siding this game.
Town:
Lip
Hippo
Lickity
Peek
Player 2
Chibi
Lassie
Autumn
Platypus
FPS
Choo Choo
Break
Eye
Mining
Chromo
TF
Catnip
Protag
Mafia:
Is my readlist.
Notes:
Goblin claimed that it was their fault that my action was blocked during the night. Their role could not have blocked it and the player who is claiming to have blocked it is stating they had no communication with each other. Either there is another mafia rolestopper, Goblin misunderstood their role, or Protagonist is mafia. I think it’s unlikely they misunderstood their role and I believe they would be as confused as I am as to why my action was blocked there instead of claiming they did it.
I think it’s risky for Scarf to falsely claim they investigated The Flood N1 with the existence of trackers or watchers unless they actually went to that player and checked them. I think it’s likely they actually just checked the player, makes sense for mafia to do so. I did some investigation into the interactions of flood and I do not get the hype around them looking terrible from the flipped wolves, it’s not worse than Droopy (who I thought would flip wolf). I think their posts have also been relatively fine. Have to admit though, I think the slot does need to die at some point, I’m just voicing some of my concerns there.
Lassie claimed to have hooded scarf which doesn’t make sense if they are wolves together. They have also shot a wolf without me directing it (even though they asked me to direct it) which makes me trust them more.
I think Platypus claim can be verified by a rolecop so we can see what conditionals we are dealing with. If mafia could abuse the conditionals to wolf side, I’ll clear them, if not, they will be lowered. They are up there for now because they have been town siding this game.
Alright, I finished reading through what they did. I can see now instead of kinda just skimming what they did with regards to Yellow and Scarf. They were also suspecting Goblin from early on in the game.
There’s just…a very big problem for me personally right now. Lipstick and Hippo are both confirmed town to me right now. I’m confirmed town to myself, Old Lickity is confirmed town based off how wolves such as ZOMB reacted to being marked. I think player 2 is town because wolves were pushing for that to be policed and I think wolves such as goblin would herd wolves in wolf chat to prevent them from doing stuff like that for no reason. I think Chibi is town, I don’t see why they allow two wolves to almost die as a wolf, there’s a point where you lose with too much credibility. I don’t know the exact specifics of Platpyus…actually [MENTION=46675]FM-Four Past Seven[/MENTION] I think Platpus is an excellent rolecop. If they are wolf they probably have some conditional and I think it would be great to figure out what - if there is barely a conditional we can clear them, easily.
You guys can kinda see my thought process and what led me to go “wait, autumn? They exist? Where do I place them? Look at all these solid reasons to clear people, where should I place them?”
So now I’m going to try to sort the rest of the people into some tier list and see where that leaves me
Alright, I finished reading through what they did. I can see now instead of kinda just skimming what they did with regards to Yellow and Scarf. They were also suspecting Goblin from early on in the game.
There’s just…a very big problem for me personally right now. Lipstick and Hippo are both confirmed town to me right now. I’m confirmed town to myself, Old Lickity is confirmed town based off how wolves such as ZOMB reacted to being marked. I think player 2 is town because wolves were pushing for that to be policed and I think wolves such as goblin would herd wolves in wolf chat to prevent them from doing stuff like that for no reason. I think Chibi is town, I don’t see why they allow two wolves to almost die as a wolf, there’s a point where you lose with too much credibility. I don’t know the exact specifics of Platpyus…actually
@FM-Four Past Seven
I think Platpus is an excellent rolecop. If they are wolf they probably have some conditional and I think it would be great to figure out what - if there is barely a conditional we can clear them, easily.
You guys can kinda see my thought process and what led me to go “wait, autumn? They exist? Where do I place them? Look at all these solid reasons to clear people, where should I place them?”
So now I’m going to try to sort the rest of the people into some tier list and see where that leaves me
[QUOTE=FM-Peekaboo;1015343]Also before I go, for any doubters of me/Hippo/Autumn look at the previous day's ITA1 -> ITA2 shots list discussions. I will be compiling that myself as a form of a towncase. I think it's pretty clear who was fighting against Scarf's attempted manipulation of our shots[/QUOTE]
I’m almost there half way through the jso
Originally Posted by FM-Peekaboo
Also before I go, for any doubters of me/Hippo/Autumn look at the previous day's ITA1 -> ITA2 shots list discussions. I will be compiling that myself as a form of a towncase. I think it's pretty clear who was fighting against Scarf's attempted manipulation of our shots
I don’t keep this particuarly secret but there’s a good chance it I say someone’s town and ignore them I haven’t read most of their posts and skimmed a couple and went good enough, it takes a while for me to work across the game and I’m very slow at it, but also like why is autumn so town read look at their day two contributions to the game, I’ve got a lot of reasons to town read other people so once I get done I’ll talk about those reasons and we can reorganize stuff, other people canmoppk into autumn as well
I don’t keep this particuarly secret but there’s a good chance it I say someone’s town and ignore them I haven’t read most of their posts and skimmed a couple and went good enough, it takes a while for me to work across the game and I’m very slow at it, but also like why is autumn so town read look at their day two contributions to the game, I’ve got a lot of reasons to town read other people so once I get done I’ll talk about those reasons and we can reorganize stuff, other people canmoppk into autumn as well
[QUOTE=FM-Autumn;1004140]removing pyramid because no reason to ita people who are being shielded, at least not yet
also parei because of their later posts
so
angry rectangle
goldfish bowl
heterochromia
hon hon hon
decepticon
red cross
space pizza
somg
monet rocket
thumbs up
wakka
popcorn axolotl (idk if i actually want this killed but i don't trust them lol)
this is way too big list but i want the shots to be on people in here[/QUOTE]
removed two wolves in a row
Originally Posted by FM-Autumn
removing pyramid because no reason to ita people who are being shielded, at least not yet
also parei because of their later posts
so
angry rectangle
goldfish bowl
heterochromia
hon hon hon
decepticon
red cross
space pizza
somg
monet rocket
thumbs up
wakka
popcorn axolotl (idk if i actually want this killed but i don't trust them lol)
this is way too big list but i want the shots to be on people in here
[QUOTE=FM-Autumn;1003890]imo can die (tho tbh i haven't read all of those people, some of them are there just because they're low-posting and i don't remember them being towny)
angry rectangle
goldfish bowl
heterochromia
hon hon hon
decepticon
pyramid
red cross (i'm not sure about it but so many others have that slot in shotlists i guess it's fine to kill them)
space pizza
zomg
don't remember anything from them
monet rocket
thumbs up
wakka
something that bothers me with their posting, some other towny stuff, idk if i want them actually dead rn but think they have some wolf equity
pareidolia
popcorn axolotl
anyone got reasons to townread the people listed in here?[/QUOTE]
4 wolves in a row, huh
on day two, and still, breathing
interesting enough
Originally Posted by FM-Autumn
imo can die (tho tbh i haven't read all of those people, some of them are there just because they're low-posting and i don't remember them being towny)
angry rectangle
goldfish bowl
heterochromia
hon hon hon
decepticon
pyramid
red cross (i'm not sure about it but so many others have that slot in shotlists i guess it's fine to kill them)
space pizza
zomg
don't remember anything from them
monet rocket
thumbs up
wakka
something that bothers me with their posting, some other towny stuff, idk if i want them actually dead rn but think they have some wolf equity
pareidolia
popcorn axolotl
anyone got reasons to townread the people listed in here?
4 wolves in a row, huh
on day two, and still, breathing
interesting enough
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Originally Posted by FM-Lassie
