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This whole game

Was pure poetry

For my lips

<3

This whole game

Was pure poetry

For my lips

<3

Right before I was going to post my wolf case on Naptime

Right before I was going to post my wolf case on Naptime

[QUOTE=FM-Autumn;1019797]okay actually i kinda want to see the result already lol

assuming ppl dont have anything to say anymore and would be fine with hammer?[/QUOTE]

Yes!

Gl gl

Ggs!

Originally Posted by FM-Autumn

okay actually i kinda want to see the result already lol

assuming ppl dont have anything to say anymore and would be fine with hammer?

Yes!

Gl gl

Ggs!

[QUOTE=FM-Autumn;1019795]i mean it only rands if i vote p2

which i'm. not planning to do. lol[/QUOTE]

Self vote and AtE tbh lol

Originally Posted by FM-Autumn

i mean it only rands if i vote p2

which i'm. not planning to do. lol

Self vote and AtE tbh lol

I believe in your Autumn

May your vote be blessed

I believe in your Autumn

May your vote be blessed

[QUOTE=FM-Autumn;1019790]i kinda want [MENTION=46711]FM-Tiny Hippo[/MENTION] to get here and decide my vote so i can blame someone else lol

(pretty sure from their earlier posts that they'd also vote plat tbh but idk. kinda just want to hear their opinion now also lol even when it doesn't actually change anything XD)[/QUOTE]

Yeah

And you can't let it rand now

Don't do that

I'll take the fault if we are wrong

Originally Posted by FM-Autumn

i kinda want @FM-Tiny Hippo to get here and decide my vote so i can blame someone else lol

(pretty sure from their earlier posts that they'd also vote plat tbh but idk. kinda just want to hear their opinion now also lol even when it doesn't actually change anything XD)

Yeah

And you can't let it rand now

Don't do that

I'll take the fault if we are wrong

[QUOTE=FM-Player 2;1019789]DVC would crucify us[/QUOTE]

Lol

Everybody self vote and AtE now!

Originally Posted by FM-Player 2

DVC would crucify us

Lol

Everybody self vote and AtE now!

LET IT RAND

No actually

Don't let it rand =p

LET IT RAND

No actually

Don't let it rand =p

[QUOTE=FM-Player 2;1019785]Yeah I think we won :D

(What even happens in a tie, does it go to rand?)[/QUOTE]

I have no idea tbh

Originally Posted by FM-Player 2

Yeah I think we won

(What even happens in a tie, does it go to rand?)

I have no idea tbh

[QUOTE=FM-Player 2;1019783]Haha no theyre not looking at this[/QUOTE]

P2 did we win please tell me we did

Originally Posted by FM-Player 2

Haha no theyre not looking at this

P2 did we win please tell me we did

[QUOTE=FM-Autumn;1019780]... you're not planning to let me top post, are you?[/QUOTE]


Of course not

It's me
Lipstick
Your godking diva

Originally Posted by FM-Autumn

... you're not planning to let me top post, are you?

Of course not

It's me
Lipstick
Your godking diva

[QUOTE=FM-Autumn;1019779]it'd be just extremely funny to me because i'm typically a low-poster tbh

i have absolutely no idea what happened to me in this game lol i've never posted even half this much XD[/QUOTE]

I have greatly enjoyed you in the game!

You've been an absolute force!

Even better if we win!

Which I

Hope!

Originally Posted by FM-Autumn

it'd be just extremely funny to me because i'm typically a low-poster tbh

i have absolutely no idea what happened to me in this game lol i've never posted even half this much XD

I have greatly enjoyed you in the game!

You've been an absolute force!

Even better if we win!

Which I

Hope!

None of you suspect I'm really the deepest wolf of all times hehehe

None of you suspect I'm really the deepest wolf of all times hehehe

Ggs!

Ggs!

Lol I did a double take for a sec

Been reading so many ISOs mixing up Player and Plat and I was like

Wait, it was Plat I was supposed to vote right lol

Lol I did a double take for a sec

Been reading so many ISOs mixing up Player and Plat and I was like

Wait, it was Plat I was supposed to vote right lol

[VOTE]fm-platypus[/VOTE]

-vote fm-platypus

[QUOTE=FM-Autumn;1019768]if we fuck up i'm blaming all the other townies who played in a way which killed them earlier and forced me to make final decision

if they didn't want to lose, they should've played better and got themselves into lylo :P[/QUOTE]

That is what being town is all about

Blaming others <3

Originally Posted by FM-Autumn

if we fuck up i'm blaming all the other townies who played in a way which killed them earlier and forced me to make final decision

if they didn't want to lose, they should've played better and got themselves into lylo :P

That is what being town is all about

Blaming others <3

Autumn, should I vote?
Are you ready and ok with this?

Autumn, should I vote?
Are you ready and ok with this?

[QUOTE=FM-Autumn;1019765](i'm just expecting p2 to be the wolf so that last hour of me confbiasing myself into thinking plat's even wolfier (despite already knowing that's where i'll vote) is just gonna make me look even more stupid lol)[/QUOTE]

Ahhhhhhhh don't

Originally Posted by FM-Autumn

(i'm just expecting p2 to be the wolf so that last hour of me confbiasing myself into thinking plat's even wolfier (despite already knowing that's where i'll vote) is just gonna make me look even more stupid lol)

Ahhhhhhhh don't

[QUOTE=FM-Autumn;1019762]i signed up to get ita'd d2!!

why am i alive in lylo lol

but yeah i'm also like. just vote plat and if it's wrong we lose. it's fine lol.[/QUOTE]


I'm nervous

I'm always nervous

But if we fuck up

At least we did it as fwiends <3

Originally Posted by FM-Autumn

i signed up to get ita'd d2!!

why am i alive in lylo lol

but yeah i'm also like. just vote plat and if it's wrong we lose. it's fine lol.

I'm nervous

I'm always nervous

But if we fuck up

At least we did it as fwiends <3

[QUOTE=FM-Autumn;1019759](yeah, stop posting, i haven't been top poster before and randomly doing that in a mash would be way too fun to me tbh XD)[/QUOTE]

THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE

Actually we should coordinate so that we have the same amount tbh

Originally Posted by FM-Autumn

(yeah, stop posting, i haven't been top poster before and randomly doing that in a mash would be way too fun to me tbh XD)

THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE

Actually we should coordinate so that we have the same amount tbh

I just think all things I've seen point to Plat here

I just think all things I've seen point to Plat here

[QUOTE=FM-Autumn;1019746]XD yeah thats smth i pointed out earlier also

the way candy talks about plat is very similar to how they talked about wolves

and they literally didnt have a single wolf as a townread at that point of the game (and iirc not earlier either, at least not with explanations lol they might've had some "kirby/scarf as townlean" when consensus was that those are all obvtown but otherwise not)
so p2 as one of the strongest townreads is a very good look tbh

and it's. a bit hard for me to believe that they just succeeded to random swap the approach here with the last two ppl we need to solve lol[/QUOTE]

Every wolf randomly swapped their approach to exactly THESE TWO PLAYERS in F4

It seems

Unlikely

I'm ok losing to that I think

And I think we've done our work

And I'm so fucking ready for this game to be over jesus christ what the fuck this is not what I signed up for lol

Originally Posted by FM-Autumn

XD yeah thats smth i pointed out earlier also

the way candy talks about plat is very similar to how they talked about wolves

and they literally didnt have a single wolf as a townread at that point of the game (and iirc not earlier either, at least not with explanations lol they might've had some "kirby/scarf as townlean" when consensus was that those are all obvtown but otherwise not)
so p2 as one of the strongest townreads is a very good look tbh

and it's. a bit hard for me to believe that they just succeeded to random swap the approach here with the last two ppl we need to solve lol

Every wolf randomly swapped their approach to exactly THESE TWO PLAYERS in F4

It seems

Unlikely

I'm ok losing to that I think

And I think we've done our work

And I'm so fucking ready for this game to be over jesus christ what the fuck this is not what I signed up for lol

[MENTION=46711]FM-Tiny Hippo[/MENTION] Do you endorse?

@FM-Tiny Hippo Do you endorse?

I've gone through every wolf's ISO (except Choo) to check their mention of P2 and Plat

Plat loses every round

I think I'm just ready

I'm ok losing to a weird world of P2 here

I've gone through every wolf's ISO (except Choo) to check their mention of P2 and Plat

Plat loses every round

I think I'm just ready

I'm ok losing to a weird world of P2 here

[QUOTE=FM-Player 2;1019749]Lipsticks right there, I got fooled hard by the first fake check and was then like "Please dont tell me we're doing more reaction tests" lol[/QUOTE]

I also had this thought

I was holding my breath like

I'm going to kill Autumn if this one is fake

Lol

Originally Posted by FM-Player 2

Lipsticks right there, I got fooled hard by the first fake check and was then like "Please dont tell me we're doing more reaction tests" lol

I also had this thought

I was holding my breath like

I'm going to kill Autumn if this one is fake

Lol

Not me and Autumn having the same amount of posts
That's pretty sick

Not me and Autumn having the same amount of posts
That's pretty sick

[MENTION=46661]FM-Autumn[/MENTION] They definitely did conf bias on Peep when the reaction test happened
Went straight into ISOing finding it incredibly wolfy and started analysing who was spewed or teamed

[QUOTE=FM-Player 2;1015826]Oh shit this is pretty fucking big, this was from the droopy wagon right?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Player 2;1015894]Mining Peep ISO is literally all just wolfy pop-ins
[MENTION=46711]FM-Tiny Hippo[/MENTION] please explain why you were shielding this slot





Like what is this progression lmao[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Player 2;1015925]Yeah reading the ISO it looks like Licky is just TMI'd town

Also that jump off the Droopy wagon at EOD after hard pressing them as a wolf all day lol, at first I was like "Well cant be too harsh, I was pretty convinced Droopy was wolf" but then they bailed out from a wagon they started lmao[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Player 2;1015946]Just manually added the Catnip bit

But that doesnt look partnered to me?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Player 2;1015965]Yeah maybe, just felt like such unnecessary shade from Catnip, especially when Mining Peep has been kinda living under Hippos umbrella[/QUOTE]

Like this

[QUOTE=FM-Player 2;1015979]...

Now I have to re-read the ISO and work out if I was confbiased or not. Because fuck that was a wolfy looking ISO[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Player 2;1015995]Well...maybe it wasnt partnered lol[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Player 2;1016004][UNVOTE][/UNVOTE]

For now.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Player 2;1016021]1) I agree the ISO was bad

2) This still feels like you wanna get a V shot before you go out

The duality of man[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Player 2;1016040]Im in tears over the fact this man dipped when asked a question, missed an entire RT, and is now back ignoring that it ever existed[/QUOTE]

And then still hung up on it after it was revealed that the reaction test was fake

---

Meanwhile in Plat's world

[QUOTE=FM-Platypus;1015836]That's pretty sick, although it's funny how you mention me

Like being their own hype man[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Platypus;1015852]Sooo I haven't actually seen what you claim your role can do but it's about checking the amoung of killing abilities on a wagon of your choice (or just the final wagon that goes through)?

I can confirm my ability is of the type killing so it seems plausible I'd say. Good enough for me to vote Mining Peep I'd say.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Platypus;1015881]Oh. Sorry, now I get it. Anyway yeah, still seems plausible[/QUOTE]

Yeah.....

@FM-Autumn They definitely did conf bias on Peep when the reaction test happened
Went straight into ISOing finding it incredibly wolfy and started analysing who was spewed or teamed

Originally Posted by FM-Player 2

Oh shit this is pretty fucking big, this was from the droopy wagon right?

Originally Posted by FM-Player 2

Mining Peep ISO is literally all just wolfy pop-ins
@FM-Tiny Hippo please explain why you were shielding this slot





Like what is this progression lmao

Originally Posted by FM-Player 2

Yeah reading the ISO it looks like Licky is just TMI'd town

Also that jump off the Droopy wagon at EOD after hard pressing them as a wolf all day lol, at first I was like "Well cant be too harsh, I was pretty convinced Droopy was wolf" but then they bailed out from a wagon they started lmao

Originally Posted by FM-Player 2

Just manually added the Catnip bit

But that doesnt look partnered to me?

Originally Posted by FM-Player 2

Yeah maybe, just felt like such unnecessary shade from Catnip, especially when Mining Peep has been kinda living under Hippos umbrella

Like this

Originally Posted by FM-Player 2

...

Now I have to re-read the ISO and work out if I was confbiased or not. Because fuck that was a wolfy looking ISO

Originally Posted by FM-Player 2

Well...maybe it wasnt partnered lol

Originally Posted by FM-Player 2

-unvote

For now.

Originally Posted by FM-Player 2

1) I agree the ISO was bad

2) This still feels like you wanna get a V shot before you go out

The duality of man

Originally Posted by FM-Player 2

Im in tears over the fact this man dipped when asked a question, missed an entire RT, and is now back ignoring that it ever existed

And then still hung up on it after it was revealed that the reaction test was fake

---

Meanwhile in Plat's world

Originally Posted by FM-Platypus

That's pretty sick, although it's funny how you mention me

Like being their own hype man

Originally Posted by FM-Platypus

Sooo I haven't actually seen what you claim your role can do but it's about checking the amoung of killing abilities on a wagon of your choice (or just the final wagon that goes through)?

I can confirm my ability is of the type killing so it seems plausible I'd say. Good enough for me to vote Mining Peep I'd say.

Originally Posted by FM-Platypus

Oh. Sorry, now I get it. Anyway yeah, still seems plausible

Yeah.....

[COLOR="#FF0000"]Candyfloss[/COLOR]

Candy doesn't interact with P2 at all other than putting them town in the read list

[QUOTE=FM-Platypus;1001966]does this bolded part sound weird to anybody else or just me?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Candyfloss;1001990]Likely an over think but did make me also side eye alittle bit[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Platypus;1011835]Who would you have fake poisoned then? Not asking for specifics, just asking your strategy. For me, it made sense to poison someone who I thought had an ambivalent slot who I was SL on and since I knew they wouldn't die, I decided to go with someone like Snuggles. There was not an option of real poisoning someone at the time, the mechanics regarding that are a bit more convoluted.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Candyfloss;1011846]personally think using on a SL has positive's and negatives but here it worked out cause snuggles was towny and i think is a good look for them!

what can happen is one of: stopped playing as much cause lose of motivation OR if a wolf gets a free pass into the night and gets to act instead of say being ITAed
Normally i'd aim for a null or slight town read to get more confidence there[/QUOTE]

Has two whatever interactions with Plat but still

[QUOTE=FM-Candyfloss;1013452]Amma write my current thoughts and read to each slot this is on phone as I can only play on phone for next few days.

FM-Eyescream (Null lean Town)
Think I have a very clash play style to this which has Madd them hard to read. I do think however gotten townier then previous days wanna see alittle more of their solving on previous wolfs.
FM-Autumn (Town)
Trusted SSS alot here at first but between hood and how they've treated my slot I don't think this can be a wolf they would be getting negative investment I think defending me in this way as W. Also helped with ITAs yesterday that flipped so much red.
FM-Breakup (Town Lean)
Weird parts of this slot is I feel they get constantly ignored when I look into thread think this is a generic lyrics good look really don't wanna go here anytime soon. Think there was also something else here towny for then that my brain forgets.
FM-Candyfloss (Town)
Me :p
FM-Catnip (Null)
I'll be honest I need to read more of their posts I havnt been on when are which makes it alot harder.
FM-Chibi Minnie (Mech Town Lean)
Simular to catnip like posting has been min to non with them however when catching up noticed they night vigged yellow claimed. (With hippo) like at this point in the game they can't use kp there as a wolf after yesterday like the difference on yellow being itaed to night vigged is massive.
FM-Choo-Choo (Wolf)
Think that they have high woof equality the fact they are alive right now is what? If I remember right the ate an absorbed amount of ITAs I think there's a Mech reason there bascially
FM-Chromatography (Null)
I hate how many people I look at and go idk right now they arnt selling it to me I have live posted with them but forget most interactions maybe that's wolfy honestly but wanna know any Mech there if any.
No strong read there
FM-Dredge (Town)
Think has had towny posts yesterday/today from what I can tell sounds frustrated town when I see it.
FM-Droopy Snout (Town)
Day 1 was towny af feel they are obvious said this a few times that I don't sdd them as wolf ever afterwards and have been trying to read their posts to see if that change s(it doesn).
FM-Four Past Seven (Town Lean)
Wall posts (so I skip them sometimes) BUT the ones I have read have had very good progressive reads think I can see how they are solving and keeping it all in the open.
FM-Lassie (Town Lean)
Think they had good interactions with goblin where I don't belive they are w/w
FM-Lipstick (Town)
Was the kne AFAIK to help push over the itas kn multiple wolfs yesterday only rereading here if we start roads of green.
FM-Mining Peep (Town)
Saw mentions of they are mechable but think just Town already from what I read last night (about their EoD) but would like the Mech explained more before passing to much. (Without Mech Town lean)
FM-Old Lickilicky (Town Lean)
Feel their role WHILE WE ARE ROLE NON ALIGBEMENT some just are and theirs feel like one of them also if truly doesn't count to parady think that's a high Town Lilley and someone more mentioned from so where I feel a wolf doesn't mention that part.
FM-Peekaboo (Town)
Shot Scarf legit locked Town never resend
[COLOR="#800080"]FM-Platypus (null)
Who [/COLOR]
FM-Player 2( Town)
Seen multiple times has good interactions I wanna check those personalit latter but phone isoing is so bad. (Part also here is their villagery frustrated but I hate those reads and only stating to include on my reads fornundeertaanding)
FM-Protagonist Hair (Town)
BHD also thought this before dieing to them that was Lilley roles were setuo that way feel the whole claim thing goes differently as a wolf. They also have been just towny in posting as well.
FM-Ringmaster (Town Lean)
Mentioned above claim good used actions in towy ways
FM-Space Pizza (Null)
With the mention above fine lowering this a but, wanna check how their treatment there was post wise to pyramid and how important pyramid was even.
FM-The Great Flood (Null)
Who? Legit either their avatar looks like someone else or I havnt seen this slot post.[/QUOTE]

Plat is put as "Who" in the read list
Even though Candy has interacted with Plat and not with P2
Candy also puts Flood as "Who in the read list"

Pizza also did a "Who is that even" about Candy
Wolves loves that
Such a good trick

Candyfloss

Candy doesn't interact with P2 at all other than putting them town in the read list

Originally Posted by FM-Platypus

does this bolded part sound weird to anybody else or just me?

Originally Posted by FM-Candyfloss

Likely an over think but did make me also side eye alittle bit

Originally Posted by FM-Platypus

Who would you have fake poisoned then? Not asking for specifics, just asking your strategy. For me, it made sense to poison someone who I thought had an ambivalent slot who I was SL on and since I knew they wouldn't die, I decided to go with someone like Snuggles. There was not an option of real poisoning someone at the time, the mechanics regarding that are a bit more convoluted.

Originally Posted by FM-Candyfloss

personally think using on a SL has positive's and negatives but here it worked out cause snuggles was towny and i think is a good look for them!

what can happen is one of: stopped playing as much cause lose of motivation OR if a wolf gets a free pass into the night and gets to act instead of say being ITAed
Normally i'd aim for a null or slight town read to get more confidence there

Has two whatever interactions with Plat but still

Originally Posted by FM-Candyfloss

Amma write my current thoughts and read to each slot this is on phone as I can only play on phone for next few days.

FM-Eyescream (Null lean Town)
Think I have a very clash play style to this which has Madd them hard to read. I do think however gotten townier then previous days wanna see alittle more of their solving on previous wolfs.
FM-Autumn (Town)
Trusted SSS alot here at first but between hood and how they've treated my slot I don't think this can be a wolf they would be getting negative investment I think defending me in this way as W. Also helped with ITAs yesterday that flipped so much red.
FM-Breakup (Town Lean)
Weird parts of this slot is I feel they get constantly ignored when I look into thread think this is a generic lyrics good look really don't wanna go here anytime soon. Think there was also something else here towny for then that my brain forgets.
FM-Candyfloss (Town)
Me
FM-Catnip (Null)
I'll be honest I need to read more of their posts I havnt been on when are which makes it alot harder.
FM-Chibi Minnie (Mech Town Lean)
Simular to catnip like posting has been min to non with them however when catching up noticed they night vigged yellow claimed. (With hippo) like at this point in the game they can't use kp there as a wolf after yesterday like the difference on yellow being itaed to night vigged is massive.
FM-Choo-Choo (Wolf)
Think that they have high woof equality the fact they are alive right now is what? If I remember right the ate an absorbed amount of ITAs I think there's a Mech reason there bascially
FM-Chromatography (Null)
I hate how many people I look at and go idk right now they arnt selling it to me I have live posted with them but forget most interactions maybe that's wolfy honestly but wanna know any Mech there if any.
No strong read there
FM-Dredge (Town)
Think has had towny posts yesterday/today from what I can tell sounds frustrated town when I see it.
FM-Droopy Snout (Town)
Day 1 was towny af feel they are obvious said this a few times that I don't sdd them as wolf ever afterwards and have been trying to read their posts to see if that change s(it doesn).
FM-Four Past Seven (Town Lean)
Wall posts (so I skip them sometimes) BUT the ones I have read have had very good progressive reads think I can see how they are solving and keeping it all in the open.
FM-Lassie (Town Lean)
Think they had good interactions with goblin where I don't belive they are w/w
FM-Lipstick (Town)
Was the kne AFAIK to help push over the itas kn multiple wolfs yesterday only rereading here if we start roads of green.
FM-Mining Peep (Town)
Saw mentions of they are mechable but think just Town already from what I read last night (about their EoD) but would like the Mech explained more before passing to much. (Without Mech Town lean)
FM-Old Lickilicky (Town Lean)
Feel their role WHILE WE ARE ROLE NON ALIGBEMENT some just are and theirs feel like one of them also if truly doesn't count to parady think that's a high Town Lilley and someone more mentioned from so where I feel a wolf doesn't mention that part.
FM-Peekaboo (Town)
Shot Scarf legit locked Town never resend
FM-Platypus (null)
Who
FM-Player 2( Town)
Seen multiple times has good interactions I wanna check those personalit latter but phone isoing is so bad. (Part also here is their villagery frustrated but I hate those reads and only stating to include on my reads fornundeertaanding)
FM-Protagonist Hair (Town)
BHD also thought this before dieing to them that was Lilley roles were setuo that way feel the whole claim thing goes differently as a wolf. They also have been just towny in posting as well.
FM-Ringmaster (Town Lean)
Mentioned above claim good used actions in towy ways
FM-Space Pizza (Null)
With the mention above fine lowering this a but, wanna check how their treatment there was post wise to pyramid and how important pyramid was even.
FM-The Great Flood (Null)
Who? Legit either their avatar looks like someone else or I havnt seen this slot post.

Plat is put as "Who" in the read list
Even though Candy has interacted with Plat and not with P2
Candy also puts Flood as "Who in the read list"

Pizza also did a "Who is that even" about Candy
Wolves loves that
Such a good trick

Plat surviving this long by just not rocking the boat is kind of iconic though ngl

Plat surviving this long by just not rocking the boat is kind of iconic though ngl

Didn't P2 also conf bias themselves into thinking Peep was wolf when Choo did that fake reaction test thingy?
Just like I did the same

Nah
It's just Plat tbh

Didn't P2 also conf bias themselves into thinking Peep was wolf when Choo did that fake reaction test thingy?
Just like I did the same

Nah
It's just Plat tbh

[QUOTE=FM-Autumn;1019734]no way we have 3p tbh. choo wasn't posting like they were the last wolf lol[/QUOTE]

Then I just think it's Plat

No matter mechanics that are weird or what not

I do have worry
Like nobody being killed when P2 was blocked from a kill buuuuuut

It's just a bit too wild to me that all wolves decided to hate on P2 so much, so strongly, while they are treating Plat much more like the typical wolf
If they did then
Mama, kudos for saying that. For spilling
(Please someone take the reference)
It's just hard to swallow

It will be sad
But also a bit fun

But it will be even sadder to miss out on Plat wolf kind of
But also even more fun

Originally Posted by FM-Autumn

no way we have 3p tbh. choo wasn't posting like they were the last wolf lol

Then I just think it's Plat

No matter mechanics that are weird or what not

I do have worry
Like nobody being killed when P2 was blocked from a kill buuuuuut

It's just a bit too wild to me that all wolves decided to hate on P2 so much, so strongly, while they are treating Plat much more like the typical wolf
If they did then
Mama, kudos for saying that. For spilling
(Please someone take the reference)
It's just hard to swallow

It will be sad
But also a bit fun

But it will be even sadder to miss out on Plat wolf kind of
But also even more fun

[QUOTE=FM-Autumn;1019733]"Yellow did bus people but more so weaker players I think?
Doesn't seem to want to let up on P2
I'm imagining that they already here had the thought of claiming to shoot at P2
And it actually more so looks like that claim is real
Which would obviously clear P2 I think"

was that on d2?

because the specific way kirby claimed felt more like they saw a good opportunity to pretend to have townsided vig shot after p2 claimed commuting that night? i don't remember them really posting early d3 in a way which would've implied at all that they'd vigged p2 actually and failed the shot? (tho admittedly i also haven't read their iso lol)[/QUOTE]

They claimed the shot on D3
That they had shot at P2 on N2 that is

And their P2 hate started already on D2
They had found a way to suspect P2 through Thumb's ISO

So the story is consistent with
"I was suss of P2 on D2, decided to shoot them N2 and will still try to kill them"

So it's an outright bus if that is the case

Originally Posted by FM-Autumn

"Yellow did bus people but more so weaker players I think?
Doesn't seem to want to let up on P2
I'm imagining that they already here had the thought of claiming to shoot at P2
And it actually more so looks like that claim is real
Which would obviously clear P2 I think"

was that on d2?

because the specific way kirby claimed felt more like they saw a good opportunity to pretend to have townsided vig shot after p2 claimed commuting that night? i don't remember them really posting early d3 in a way which would've implied at all that they'd vigged p2 actually and failed the shot? (tho admittedly i also haven't read their iso lol)

They claimed the shot on D3
That they had shot at P2 on N2 that is

And their P2 hate started already on D2
They had found a way to suspect P2 through Thumb's ISO

So the story is consistent with
"I was suss of P2 on D2, decided to shoot them N2 and will still try to kill them"

So it's an outright bus if that is the case

One problem I have is that

I just think Plat sounds genuine lol

But I'm pretty sure that's just because I like the vibe

One problem I have is that

I just think Plat sounds genuine lol

But I'm pretty sure that's just because I like the vibe

[QUOTE=FM-Autumn;1019728]but like....

i think we just kill plat? and hope that it was right

like i'm worried abt stuff. but. i can't justify voting p2 here when plat looks so much worse just from their posting[/QUOTE]
[MENTION=46661]FM-Autumn[/MENTION] This is where I'm at also

Plat loses every ISO round I've done with flipped wolves
If P2 is wolf, the wolf team decided to really go weird with it around ITAs on D3
It's more likely that wolves wanted P2 gone for real
Maybe he was role copped

My only tinfoil here
And there's nothing to do if this is true I think
Is that P2 is actually
Wait for it
3p lol
And that's why wolves were so gung ho on getting rid of them

But I can't justify taking out P2 here instead of Plat
It just seems wild to me
I do have some paranoia like you do
Because of some unexplained things
But won't there always be unexplained things in a mash?

Originally Posted by FM-Autumn

but like....

i think we just kill plat? and hope that it was right

like i'm worried abt stuff. but. i can't justify voting p2 here when plat looks so much worse just from their posting

@FM-Autumn This is where I'm at also

Plat loses every ISO round I've done with flipped wolves
If P2 is wolf, the wolf team decided to really go weird with it around ITAs on D3
It's more likely that wolves wanted P2 gone for real
Maybe he was role copped

My only tinfoil here
And there's nothing to do if this is true I think
Is that P2 is actually
Wait for it
3p lol
And that's why wolves were so gung ho on getting rid of them

But I can't justify taking out P2 here instead of Plat
It just seems wild to me
I do have some paranoia like you do
Because of some unexplained things
But won't there always be unexplained things in a mash?

[COLOR="#FF0000"]Piss Kirby[/COLOR]

[SPOILER=Ew][QUOTE=FM-Player 2;1005928][MENTION=46714]FM-Yellow Snow[/MENTION]

Do you have the EOD VC from yesterday, Pyramid was a wagon right?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Yellow Snow;1005938]I think it was posted with the two flips but I can condense it if that makes it easier?

Pyramid had 3 voters by EOD though, so they were a vote but didnt kick off[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Player 2;1005943]Sorry to pester, but did you track vote progression/timers, like when did Pyramid start and was there much movement after that?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Yellow Snow;1005952]OH I dont think I did? Once EOD hit my brain kinda went 'I dont want to format this right now :(' but I can grab this from the vote history now[/QUOTE][/SPOILER]

P2 and Yellow has quite a bit of interaction
I just hate all of it cause it looks awkward with a lot of @ing each other
BUT
Literally all of Yellow's interactions has looked awkward and possible w/w to me
I think it's just how Yellow writes tbh

[SPOILER=P2 hate][QUOTE=FM-Yellow Snow;1007295]-> To Player 2

This follows on with latching onto Goblin, feeds into the Player2 push by prodding that they broke their gimmick and egging them on past a point where both had opted to leave the other be. I'm kinda conflicted on what this means for Player? Both Goblin and Player2 were going at it and being pretty rough on the other, which fosters a pretty bad thread environment for those involved, so it was better that they left each other be. So could be reigniting v/v violence? But I think later posts about Player look rough in a way that could potentially indicate w!Player rather than w!Thumbs trying to encourage v/v fighting.


-> To Player2
Coming back to Player2, there's a switch up from egging them on about their reaction to Goblin to then calling them townie and almost pushing back on Goblin instead? Which worries me since it shows they didn't really care about their read on Player to begin with, just feels like a really awkward switch up on them. I lean more towards this being scummy for Player since the walkback from egging them on to suddenly agreeing and trying to prod Goblin feels more like someone trying to avoid shading their partner too heavily and trying to potentially prevent TMIing someone as town for following them there? At a stretch it could be good for Player since instead it would be Thumbs trying to get two villas to argue again but looking at how thumbs approached Goblin vs the switchup on Player, things kinda just feel different? Bleh. Would like a second thought on this as I think there's a distinction in how they treat people but I'm not 100% on my conclusions there.


-> General post
Tinnitus noted it at the time but the actual tone of this feels awkward, especially when this was a fairly common conclusion from their back-and-forth that others like myself picked up on. Feels like they feel awkward suggesting they're unaligned, could come down to having TMI that they were unaligned but not wanting that TMI to be obvious? At least I think based on looking at how Thumb approaches them both I dont think they're w/w? So I think they had TMI that there's a wolf in Player2/Goblin and that they didnt want to throw a partner under the bus. Could be them encouraging a v/v dichotomy, but I lean more towards v/w[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Yellow Snow;1007349]Ah, our reactions seem polar opposite LMAO

Can you run me through why that's good for Player? I can kinda see it but I think the switchup was a little. too awkward I think?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Yellow Snow;1007364]I think the you/Player2 interactions could be v/v, but I think how Thumbs approaches the whole thing feels inconsistent to a point where I think Player could be mafia as a result. Looking at how they pressure them alongside you but lay off and switch sides to call Player 2 townie and shade you for something they agreed with, it felt more like mafia not wanting to be caught on a bus on a partner if they didnt think they were being pushed heavily.

Like I said, you could be v/v, I think that's definitely possible from a perspective of Thumbs trying to egg on v/v fighting, but I think their approach to you both is notable enough that there could be mafia between you two.

I might be wrong on Peekaboo seeming fine off them, part of that is down to me thinking they seem alright anyway, but to me the fact they didnt try to sell it at all felt like they were just making an off comment about town to try seem engaged more than it would be making a read about a partner[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Yellow Snow;1007367]Thank you :,)

I dunno, I think they could be v/v and mafia was encouraging fighting, but my gut says that Player2 could be mafia instead for it? Looking at how Thumbs switched once they realised Goblin laid off Player2, they went from encouraging it to supporting Player and it just feels a little. bleh

I'll give that read more time to cook I think, I'll hold on for a bit more feedback on it hopefully? But I'll keep that in mind since it might just be me reading them that way[/QUOTE][/SPOILER]

Yellow discusses with Goblin and others how Thumb's ISO might be damning for P2
Others disagree but Yellow seems quite fixed on shading P2 here

Yellow did bus people but more so weaker players I think?
Doesn't seem to want to let up on P2
I'm imagining that they already here had the thought of claiming to shoot at P2
And it actually more so looks like that claim is real
Which would obviously clear P2 I think

[QUOTE=FM-Yellow Snow;1008334]I think maybe worth working through a larger list like we did yesterday but would +1 these people being added to the beginning list if they're not already

I dont mind it, would like Player2 on there but aside from that seems fine?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Yellow Snow;1009207]I'm fine with this list, would probably swap Chroma/Player2 around but aside from that I think it works :D[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Yellow Snow;1009690]D: I'm back

Flips on the board seem rough & I think best course of action is send Player2 here?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Yellow Snow;1009730]We ball

[B][COLOR="#DAA520"]-ITA FM-Player 2[/COLOR][/B][/QUOTE]

Yellow is consistent in wanting P2 shot and higher on the shot list
It's some overt bussing if it's bussing

Also wolves were in a good position here
The ITA prior had been terrible for town
Why come in and shoot wolf?

[QUOTE=FM-Yellow Snow;1009738]I tried to shoot Player2 last night, initially I thought it failed due to them getting saved or something so I was worried

The fact it was a commute & others have recognised that they're not townie is affirming here

God help me if that shot misses too LMAO[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Yellow Snow;1009775]I said yesterday I thought Thumbs' interactions looked bad for you, got shot down

And like. It's fine. It's fair. Whatever

But all game I've been kinda just. seen and not heard. Talked about but not really talked with despite me trying to engage people on things. And I dont think I've done that bad D:
I had Pyramid n Red as both feeling bleh d1/d2 & Felt pretty good about you being mafia. So I just. took the shot.

And got nothing in return because you commuted :(

Your posting earlier gave me pause for a bit which is why I prodded you on your Anthill read in case it was just lolkirb & I was the issue, but the shot on Snuggles was just. really fucking rough[/QUOTE]

Here's that claim

[SPOILER=Fight!][QUOTE=FM-Yellow Snow;1009796]No?

No one was pushing Snuggles lmao[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Player 2;1009798]No? Are you stupid? The rolecop on me revealed that I was a pirate with a gun with no bullets. They also said it didnt really solve anything. So what changed from D2 to D3 here? Like come the fuck on lmao[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Player 2;1009800]So let me get this straight. Someone that role copped me and didnt do anything with the info for an entire day, but then randomly pushed me and called me "lolcatting" can make adumb shot and shoot a strong town investigate and get away with it because???[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Yellow Snow;1009805]The fact they rolecopped you showed they were worried ab you to begin with so it's not a huge jump to begin with. The fact they rolecopped you then moved to scumreading you is a bad sign. How am I stupid for thinking that.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Yellow Snow;1009808]YES

YOU ARE IN SHOTSLISTS FOR A REASON.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Player 2;1009810]How does this not add up to you

I was role copped

People have then admitted to failing to shoot me at night

When it becomes apparent I can commute suddenly some players start pushing real hard one me

If I die and flipped with my full investigate confirmed you dont think the people pushing me are even slightly suspicious?

ARE YOU EVEN PLAYING MAFIA? WHAT THE FLYING FUCK DO YOU THINK WOLVES ARE TRYING TO FUCKING DO IN THE GAME?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Yellow Snow;1009812]Gah

This isn't productive at all & I'm. not really helping for thread health

I'm gonna take a few mins, sorry[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Player 2;1009815]NO IM NOT LMAO

ARE YOU ACTUALLY STUPID?

I got arbitrarily put in the shot list for not being available for D2 and there frankly isnt another reason lmao[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Player 2;1009828]You think wolves dont have role cops? You dont think it is even slightly suspicious that when the thread found out I could commute and people failed NAs on me that suddenly I started appearing in shotslists? You literally cannot add 2 plus 2 here? Come the fuck on[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Yellow Snow;1009863]Why is it that you only care enough to show up when ITAs are due and somehow have this obscene amount of entitlement for someone who has achieved fuck all.

We've been trying to solve this game for fucking days and for some godforsaken fucking reason you decided to rock up and hero shoot because someone took a shot within the shotlist which [I]you were aware you were part of[/I] and you try to play it off as their fault. Snuggles didnt even make the fucking list.

If you're town, what the fuck are you doing. With as much respect as I can allow.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Player 2;1009878]I was here this morning, I was in thread like...2 hours before ITA?

Are you even reading?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Yellow Snow;1009888]You're ignoring my point.

You're not doing anything to progress the gamestate and instead just give out to everyone else for suggesting you be shot. That's not fair.

Had you cared enough while in thread beforehand, you would've known that the shotslist was planned beforehand. It is not Snuggles' fault you are on there. Why the fuck would you shoot them there.

If you have no grasp on the threadstate, keep your fucking shot to yourself. It's not a tough concept.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Yellow Snow;1009898]The shotslist was made by your townreads???

WHY THE FUCK DID YOU SHOOT SNUGGLES WHEN THE LIST WAS MADE BY YOUR TOWNREADS.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Player 2;1009909]BECAUSE HE WASNT ON MY TRS AND HIS PROGRESSION WAS GOD AWFUL[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Yellow Snow;1009917]It's fine

It's whatever

I'll take a breather, sorry for getting heated D: I've tried to keep things positive as much as I could up until now, I dont want to be a hypocrite

Good luck with the rest of this session, I'll check in again later[/QUOTE][/SPOILER]

Then there's a whole fight
This is some hard ass distancing if that is what it is

Actually, I think the way P2 kept town reading Yellow during this actually is a good look on P2 too
Because it's not like WE ARE CREATING DISTANCE
It's Yellow being like YOU SHOULD DIE
And P2 being like WHY DON'T YOU GET IT, but still town reading Yellow
I think it's more Yellow trying to seem town by being all emo and stuff

It's kind of hard to see all this as distancing

Again
The only way it makes sense is if P2 was actually immune against shots this day
But we don't know that

I mean that could change everything though
But that's some tinfoil

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[QUOTE=FM-Sad Super Saiyan;1000848]angry and hetero are glorified shrug yeets but ones that feel more likely to flip red than half the wagons rn imo.

Platy is probs one of my stronger SRs? Posts feel blendy, but there's a lack of driving and solving. nothing feels particularly towney, just like he had the goal of establishing thread presence [MENTION=46714]FM-Yellow Snow[/MENTION][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Yellow Snow;1000853]OH reading through Platypus' ISO I kinda vibe with that, sick :O I thought I'd seen them more but they cut off around the same time as my break yesterday so the whole "generating thread presense" stuff makes a lot of sense
For the other two though, if you think they're glorified shrugyeets, why are they still more likely to flip red? Moreso after stuff about HC since I havent seen them around[/QUOTE]

Yellow piggy backs off of a wolf read on Plat from SSS
Up until then Yellow had had nothing but pleasant and jokey interactions with Plat

[QUOTE=FM-Yellow Snow;1000869][VOTE]FM-PLATYPUS[/VOTE]
[MENTION=46700]FM-Sad Super Saiyan[/MENTION]

I'll +1 your vote here before I dip, I've wanted to work with you a little more but time isnt really allowing so I hope this helps at least? I'll revisit when I get back but also I dont want EOD to be such a scramble either and I think the lack of votes on the table is definitely contributing to that being a possibility as well o_o'

Would also vote Red Cross here since I know Naptime wants to consolidate somewhere and of the names they gave I know Naptime has tried to rally there a fair bit? I've prodded there a bit myself and I can appreciate they've answered me but there's kinda just something missing there? So if you could run me through your townread there as well I'd appreciate it a lot :D

See how things go over the next few hours while I'm away but for now I'll help you cook here, I've seen you here a fair bit & you feel kinda. Not outspoken but something along those lines? At least I think so? So I'll help you out here if I can :D[/QUOTE]

Decides to follow SSS on Plat before they dip
This vote is kept for quite some time later while they are active in thread
During that time Yellow doesn't bring up Plat once
Eventually they move their vote to Candy then to Lickity

[QUOTE=FM-Yellow Snow;1002663]Yepyep, of course

I like Hat's stuff coming into today, I said yesterday I didnt really mind them looking at them in isolation so seeing that today feels comfortably affirming!!

Breakup I actually cannot remember anything from them, so I'll put a pin in that for now and get back to you

& I still feel like Platypus could be mafia as we briefly discussed yesterday, but I havent really focused them past that point so I'll see how I feel about their EOD since I'm shifting from wagon analysis to player analysis :D[/QUOTE]

Continues to have Plat as a soft option on D2

[QUOTE=FM-Platypus;1007331]Why did you post a nearly incoherent message where it sounds like the last word could mean „Candy“[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Yellow Snow;1007333]Ancient summoning ritual[/QUOTE]

Not important
I just hate this

[QUOTE=FM-Yellow Snow;1010129]Just including the remaining list here for myself

FM-Chibi Minnie
FM-Choo-Choo
FM-Chromatography
FM-Four Past Seven
FM-Monet Rocket
FM-Mr Clean
FM-Platypus
FM-ZOMG

Probably remove Four Past n Platypus here[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Yellow Snow;1010140]Four Past Seven seems pretty open about their actions & it's far more likely that their actions are protown than not
& Platypus seems almost reserved to their fate? Which feels rough but the way they've gone about things recently seem fine and in line with someone who feels like they might get shot, so they're just solving with the time they still have

So I guess off that I want to give them a little more time[/QUOTE]

Eventually begins to soften up on Plat for rather weak reasons it seems

Also they have a very soft defence of Plat during their ISO of Thumbs
They credit Plat for having a town read on Goblin, since Goblin is supposed to be town from the Thumb's ISO
It's like a super weak and roundabout way to town read Plat

Interactions with Plat falls in line with w/w imo

Plat loses yet another round

Piss Kirby

Spoiler : Ew :

Originally Posted by FM-Player 2

@FM-Yellow Snow

Do you have the EOD VC from yesterday, Pyramid was a wagon right?

Originally Posted by FM-Yellow Snow

I think it was posted with the two flips but I can condense it if that makes it easier?

Pyramid had 3 voters by EOD though, so they were a vote but didnt kick off

Originally Posted by FM-Player 2

Sorry to pester, but did you track vote progression/timers, like when did Pyramid start and was there much movement after that?

Originally Posted by FM-Yellow Snow

OH I dont think I did? Once EOD hit my brain kinda went 'I dont want to format this right now ' but I can grab this from the vote history now

P2 and Yellow has quite a bit of interaction
I just hate all of it cause it looks awkward with a lot of @ing each other
BUT
Literally all of Yellow's interactions has looked awkward and possible w/w to me
I think it's just how Yellow writes tbh

Spoiler : P2 hate :

Originally Posted by FM-Yellow Snow

-> To Player 2

This follows on with latching onto Goblin, feeds into the Player2 push by prodding that they broke their gimmick and egging them on past a point where both had opted to leave the other be. I'm kinda conflicted on what this means for Player? Both Goblin and Player2 were going at it and being pretty rough on the other, which fosters a pretty bad thread environment for those involved, so it was better that they left each other be. So could be reigniting v/v violence? But I think later posts about Player look rough in a way that could potentially indicate w!Player rather than w!Thumbs trying to encourage v/v fighting.


-> To Player2
Coming back to Player2, there's a switch up from egging them on about their reaction to Goblin to then calling them townie and almost pushing back on Goblin instead? Which worries me since it shows they didn't really care about their read on Player to begin with, just feels like a really awkward switch up on them. I lean more towards this being scummy for Player since the walkback from egging them on to suddenly agreeing and trying to prod Goblin feels more like someone trying to avoid shading their partner too heavily and trying to potentially prevent TMIing someone as town for following them there? At a stretch it could be good for Player since instead it would be Thumbs trying to get two villas to argue again but looking at how thumbs approached Goblin vs the switchup on Player, things kinda just feel different? Bleh. Would like a second thought on this as I think there's a distinction in how they treat people but I'm not 100% on my conclusions there.


-> General post
Tinnitus noted it at the time but the actual tone of this feels awkward, especially when this was a fairly common conclusion from their back-and-forth that others like myself picked up on. Feels like they feel awkward suggesting they're unaligned, could come down to having TMI that they were unaligned but not wanting that TMI to be obvious? At least I think based on looking at how Thumb approaches them both I dont think they're w/w? So I think they had TMI that there's a wolf in Player2/Goblin and that they didnt want to throw a partner under the bus. Could be them encouraging a v/v dichotomy, but I lean more towards v/w

Originally Posted by FM-Yellow Snow

Ah, our reactions seem polar opposite LMAO

Can you run me through why that's good for Player? I can kinda see it but I think the switchup was a little. too awkward I think?

Originally Posted by FM-Yellow Snow

I think the you/Player2 interactions could be v/v, but I think how Thumbs approaches the whole thing feels inconsistent to a point where I think Player could be mafia as a result. Looking at how they pressure them alongside you but lay off and switch sides to call Player 2 townie and shade you for something they agreed with, it felt more like mafia not wanting to be caught on a bus on a partner if they didnt think they were being pushed heavily.

Like I said, you could be v/v, I think that's definitely possible from a perspective of Thumbs trying to egg on v/v fighting, but I think their approach to you both is notable enough that there could be mafia between you two.

I might be wrong on Peekaboo seeming fine off them, part of that is down to me thinking they seem alright anyway, but to me the fact they didnt try to sell it at all felt like they were just making an off comment about town to try seem engaged more than it would be making a read about a partner

Originally Posted by FM-Yellow Snow

Thank you :,)

I dunno, I think they could be v/v and mafia was encouraging fighting, but my gut says that Player2 could be mafia instead for it? Looking at how Thumbs switched once they realised Goblin laid off Player2, they went from encouraging it to supporting Player and it just feels a little. bleh

I'll give that read more time to cook I think, I'll hold on for a bit more feedback on it hopefully? But I'll keep that in mind since it might just be me reading them that way

Yellow discusses with Goblin and others how Thumb's ISO might be damning for P2
Others disagree but Yellow seems quite fixed on shading P2 here

Yellow did bus people but more so weaker players I think?
Doesn't seem to want to let up on P2
I'm imagining that they already here had the thought of claiming to shoot at P2
And it actually more so looks like that claim is real
Which would obviously clear P2 I think

Originally Posted by FM-Yellow Snow

I think maybe worth working through a larger list like we did yesterday but would +1 these people being added to the beginning list if they're not already

I dont mind it, would like Player2 on there but aside from that seems fine?

Originally Posted by FM-Yellow Snow

I'm fine with this list, would probably swap Chroma/Player2 around but aside from that I think it works

Originally Posted by FM-Yellow Snow

D: I'm back

Flips on the board seem rough & I think best course of action is send Player2 here?

Originally Posted by FM-Yellow Snow

We ball

-ITA FM-Player 2

Yellow is consistent in wanting P2 shot and higher on the shot list
It's some overt bussing if it's bussing

Also wolves were in a good position here
The ITA prior had been terrible for town
Why come in and shoot wolf?

Originally Posted by FM-Yellow Snow

I tried to shoot Player2 last night, initially I thought it failed due to them getting saved or something so I was worried

The fact it was a commute & others have recognised that they're not townie is affirming here

God help me if that shot misses too LMAO

Originally Posted by FM-Yellow Snow

I said yesterday I thought Thumbs' interactions looked bad for you, got shot down

And like. It's fine. It's fair. Whatever

But all game I've been kinda just. seen and not heard. Talked about but not really talked with despite me trying to engage people on things. And I dont think I've done that bad D:
I had Pyramid n Red as both feeling bleh d1/d2 & Felt pretty good about you being mafia. So I just. took the shot.

And got nothing in return because you commuted

Your posting earlier gave me pause for a bit which is why I prodded you on your Anthill read in case it was just lolkirb & I was the issue, but the shot on Snuggles was just. really fucking rough

Here's that claim

Spoiler : Fight! :

Originally Posted by FM-Yellow Snow

No?

No one was pushing Snuggles lmao

Originally Posted by FM-Player 2

No? Are you stupid? The rolecop on me revealed that I was a pirate with a gun with no bullets. They also said it didnt really solve anything. So what changed from D2 to D3 here? Like come the fuck on lmao

Originally Posted by FM-Player 2

So let me get this straight. Someone that role copped me and didnt do anything with the info for an entire day, but then randomly pushed me and called me "lolcatting" can make adumb shot and shoot a strong town investigate and get away with it because???

Originally Posted by FM-Yellow Snow

The fact they rolecopped you showed they were worried ab you to begin with so it's not a huge jump to begin with. The fact they rolecopped you then moved to scumreading you is a bad sign. How am I stupid for thinking that.

Originally Posted by FM-Yellow Snow

YES

YOU ARE IN SHOTSLISTS FOR A REASON.

Originally Posted by FM-Player 2

How does this not add up to you

I was role copped

People have then admitted to failing to shoot me at night

When it becomes apparent I can commute suddenly some players start pushing real hard one me

If I die and flipped with my full investigate confirmed you dont think the people pushing me are even slightly suspicious?

ARE YOU EVEN PLAYING MAFIA? WHAT THE FLYING FUCK DO YOU THINK WOLVES ARE TRYING TO FUCKING DO IN THE GAME?

Originally Posted by FM-Yellow Snow

Gah

This isn't productive at all & I'm. not really helping for thread health

I'm gonna take a few mins, sorry

Originally Posted by FM-Player 2

NO IM NOT LMAO

ARE YOU ACTUALLY STUPID?

I got arbitrarily put in the shot list for not being available for D2 and there frankly isnt another reason lmao

Originally Posted by FM-Player 2

You think wolves dont have role cops? You dont think it is even slightly suspicious that when the thread found out I could commute and people failed NAs on me that suddenly I started appearing in shotslists? You literally cannot add 2 plus 2 here? Come the fuck on

Originally Posted by FM-Yellow Snow

Why is it that you only care enough to show up when ITAs are due and somehow have this obscene amount of entitlement for someone who has achieved fuck all.

We've been trying to solve this game for fucking days and for some godforsaken fucking reason you decided to rock up and hero shoot because someone took a shot within the shotlist which you were aware you were part of and you try to play it off as their fault. Snuggles didnt even make the fucking list.

If you're town, what the fuck are you doing. With as much respect as I can allow.

Originally Posted by FM-Player 2

I was here this morning, I was in thread like...2 hours before ITA?

Are you even reading?

Originally Posted by FM-Yellow Snow

You're ignoring my point.

You're not doing anything to progress the gamestate and instead just give out to everyone else for suggesting you be shot. That's not fair.

Had you cared enough while in thread beforehand, you would've known that the shotslist was planned beforehand. It is not Snuggles' fault you are on there. Why the fuck would you shoot them there.

If you have no grasp on the threadstate, keep your fucking shot to yourself. It's not a tough concept.

Originally Posted by FM-Yellow Snow

The shotslist was made by your townreads???

WHY THE FUCK DID YOU SHOOT SNUGGLES WHEN THE LIST WAS MADE BY YOUR TOWNREADS.

Originally Posted by FM-Player 2

BECAUSE HE WASNT ON MY TRS AND HIS PROGRESSION WAS GOD AWFUL

Originally Posted by FM-Yellow Snow

It's fine

It's whatever

I'll take a breather, sorry for getting heated D: I've tried to keep things positive as much as I could up until now, I dont want to be a hypocrite

Good luck with the rest of this session, I'll check in again later

Then there's a whole fight
This is some hard ass distancing if that is what it is

Actually, I think the way P2 kept town reading Yellow during this actually is a good look on P2 too
Because it's not like WE ARE CREATING DISTANCE
It's Yellow being like YOU SHOULD DIE
And P2 being like WHY DON'T YOU GET IT, but still town reading Yellow
I think it's more Yellow trying to seem town by being all emo and stuff

It's kind of hard to see all this as distancing

Again
The only way it makes sense is if P2 was actually immune against shots this day
But we don't know that

I mean that could change everything though
But that's some tinfoil

---

Originally Posted by FM-Sad Super Saiyan

angry and hetero are glorified shrug yeets but ones that feel more likely to flip red than half the wagons rn imo.

Platy is probs one of my stronger SRs? Posts feel blendy, but there's a lack of driving and solving. nothing feels particularly towney, just like he had the goal of establishing thread presence @FM-Yellow Snow

Originally Posted by FM-Yellow Snow

OH reading through Platypus' ISO I kinda vibe with that, sick I thought I'd seen them more but they cut off around the same time as my break yesterday so the whole "generating thread presense" stuff makes a lot of sense
For the other two though, if you think they're glorified shrugyeets, why are they still more likely to flip red? Moreso after stuff about HC since I havent seen them around

Yellow piggy backs off of a wolf read on Plat from SSS
Up until then Yellow had had nothing but pleasant and jokey interactions with Plat

Originally Posted by FM-Yellow Snow

-vote FM-PLATYPUS

@FM-Sad Super Saiyan

I'll +1 your vote here before I dip, I've wanted to work with you a little more but time isnt really allowing so I hope this helps at least? I'll revisit when I get back but also I dont want EOD to be such a scramble either and I think the lack of votes on the table is definitely contributing to that being a possibility as well o_o'

Would also vote Red Cross here since I know Naptime wants to consolidate somewhere and of the names they gave I know Naptime has tried to rally there a fair bit? I've prodded there a bit myself and I can appreciate they've answered me but there's kinda just something missing there? So if you could run me through your townread there as well I'd appreciate it a lot

See how things go over the next few hours while I'm away but for now I'll help you cook here, I've seen you here a fair bit & you feel kinda. Not outspoken but something along those lines? At least I think so? So I'll help you out here if I can

Decides to follow SSS on Plat before they dip
This vote is kept for quite some time later while they are active in thread
During that time Yellow doesn't bring up Plat once
Eventually they move their vote to Candy then to Lickity

Originally Posted by FM-Yellow Snow

Yepyep, of course

I like Hat's stuff coming into today, I said yesterday I didnt really mind them looking at them in isolation so seeing that today feels comfortably affirming!!

Breakup I actually cannot remember anything from them, so I'll put a pin in that for now and get back to you

& I still feel like Platypus could be mafia as we briefly discussed yesterday, but I havent really focused them past that point so I'll see how I feel about their EOD since I'm shifting from wagon analysis to player analysis

Continues to have Plat as a soft option on D2

Originally Posted by FM-Platypus

Why did you post a nearly incoherent message where it sounds like the last word could mean „Candy“

Originally Posted by FM-Yellow Snow

Ancient summoning ritual

Not important
I just hate this

Originally Posted by FM-Yellow Snow

Just including the remaining list here for myself

FM-Chibi Minnie
FM-Choo-Choo
FM-Chromatography
FM-Four Past Seven
FM-Monet Rocket
FM-Mr Clean
FM-Platypus
FM-ZOMG

Probably remove Four Past n Platypus here

Originally Posted by FM-Yellow Snow

Four Past Seven seems pretty open about their actions & it's far more likely that their actions are protown than not
& Platypus seems almost reserved to their fate? Which feels rough but the way they've gone about things recently seem fine and in line with someone who feels like they might get shot, so they're just solving with the time they still have

So I guess off that I want to give them a little more time

Eventually begins to soften up on Plat for rather weak reasons it seems

Also they have a very soft defence of Plat during their ISO of Thumbs
They credit Plat for having a town read on Goblin, since Goblin is supposed to be town from the Thumb's ISO
It's like a super weak and roundabout way to town read Plat

Interactions with Plat falls in line with w/w imo

Plat loses yet another round

How the fuck did we end up chopping like Breakup, Hippo and Chibi before Plat lmao

Talk about drama

How the fuck did we end up chopping like Breakup, Hippo and Chibi before Plat lmao

Talk about drama

[COLOR="#FF0000"]The Great Flood[/COLOR]

[QUOTE=FM-The Great Flood;998989]Player 2 I need lore on why Luigi decided to concur in pirate activities[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-The Great Flood;1001942][COLOR="#008000"]FM-Matchstick Man[/COLOR] (6 [L-93]):
[COLOR="#008000"]FM-Protagonist Hair,[/COLOR] [COLOR="#FF0000"]FM-Scarf, [/COLOR][COLOR="#008000"]FM-Ringmaster,[/COLOR] [COLOR="#FF0000"]FM-Goblin and Worg,[/COLOR] [COLOR="#008000"]FM-Bad Hair Day, FM-Lassie[/COLOR]

[COLOR="#008000"]FM-Pilgrim Anatomy[/COLOR] (5 [L-94]):
[COLOR="#008000"]FM-Old Lickilicky, FM-Sonrisa, FM-The Hat,[/COLOR] [COLOR="#FF0000"]FM-Red Cross,[/COLOR] [COLOR="#008000"]FM-Grate[/COLOR]

[COLOR="#008000"]FM-Oink [/COLOR](4 [L-95]):
[COLOR="#008000"]FM-Goldfish Bowl, FM-Not Enough Legs, FM-Turquoise, FM-Chromatography[/COLOR]

[COLOR="#008000"]FM-Protagonist Hair [/COLOR](3 [L-96]):
[COLOR="#008000"]FM-Angry Rectangle,[/COLOR] [COLOR="#FF0000"]FM-Pareidolia, FM-ZOMG[/COLOR]

[COLOR="#008000"]FM-Old Lickilicky (5 [L-94]):[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#FF0000"]FM-Yellow Snow,[/COLOR] [COLOR="#008000"]FM-Sad Super Saiyan, FM-Tinnitus,[/COLOR] [COLOR="#FF0000"]FM-The Great Flood,[/COLOR] FM-Player 2

[COLOR="#008000"]FM-Turquoise[/COLOR] (3 [L-96]):
[COLOR="#008000"]FM-Autumn, FM-Catnip,[/COLOR] [COLOR="#FF0000"]FM-Disco Dancer[/COLOR]

[COLOR="#FF0000"]FM-Candyfloss[/COLOR] (4 [L-95]):
[COLOR="#008000"]FM-Tiny Hippo, FM-Droopy Snout, FM-Lipstick,[/COLOR] FM-Platypus



For reference later[/QUOTE]

Just an interesting list

[QUOTE=FM-The Great Flood;1009224]I dont think Four Past Seven and Player 2 are aligned based on this post . Can we add a clarification meaning that if one flip scum the other should not be shot at?[/QUOTE]

Flood later retracts this

[QUOTE=FM-The Great Flood;1009355]Is it been explained what happened between 4p7 and player 2 ?
For what I gathered Four past seven couldnt rolecop them, but someone else before could rolecop player 2 and told they were a pirate?[/QUOTE]

Blah blah some fishing for mech

[QUOTE=FM-The Great Flood;1009699]I think that everyon that can holster until ITA 2 should do that.

The people who cant should shoot at player 2 for the snuggles shot (they were on the list, snuggles wasn't)[/QUOTE]

Recommends everyone who has to shoot at ITA 1 to shoot at Player 2 for policy reasons

[QUOTE=FM-The Great Flood;1010363]iirc , chibi said that the deads said choo choo looked town.
Droopy said that they migh be able to confirm if joycat conditional green checks are legit
And personally I think chromatology has been towny.

Player 2 received some wounds ITA1 so they should have higher odds of being blasted (some people thought their reaction to the shots was towny tho. I am not one of those)

Personally Im wanting to shoot Parei[/QUOTE]

The parentheses are interesting

[QUOTE=FM-The Great Flood;1012328]Yeah, they skipped the tier 1 in ITAs to go directly at Player 2[/QUOTE]

I ask if Work shot at P2 and Flood confirms

This is all in line with other wolves
If P2 is wolf, the other wolves were invested to make sure they had recommended shooting there and distanced

---

[QUOTE=FM-Platypus;1007970]Goldfish opening post of this day seems a bit flaily but idk, maybe that slot resolves after today. Then again, Snuggles is also still alive[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-The Great Flood;1007977]Flaily as in scummy or what ?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Platypus;1007987]Yeah, like it's giving me vibes of a wolf that realizes the position they were in at EoD so now at SoD they are trying to preempt too much pressure on themselves[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-The Great Flood;1008000]Oh okay thanks, will keep in mind if I reread it because altho I sensed the vibe of Im in danger I kinda thought it came from a towny pov[/QUOTE]

Game relevant discussion of meh value

[QUOTE=FM-The Great Flood;1010375]I asked them about it, and they said that they werent notified of a heal[/QUOTE]

I posit that Plat's poison of Snuggles might be towny especially if Snuggles wasn't healed
Flood says that Snuggles wasn't healed, so indirect support of my town read on Plat

[QUOTE=FM-The Great Flood;1013191]Also Idk who said it, but yeah if Chibi poison is real and they flip town is a very bad look for Platypus . But being honest here I think it'll be fake[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-The Great Flood;1013219]For reference, here is Choo Choo list that they typed atm .

T1: [COLOR="#00FF00"]Anthill[/COLOR] / Candyfloss / Dredge / [COLOR="#00FF00"]Monet Rocket[/COLOR]
T2: [COLOR="#FF0000"]ZOMG[/COLOR] / Platypus

I'd say this may be a good look on Choo Choo , and also pointing at Candy/Dredge/Platypus having a wolf, more likely 2 ?[/QUOTE]

This post is interesting, especially the last line, saying that Candy/Dredge/Plat has a wolf, more likely 2. Can't help but think that that's the thing a wolf player like Flood just happened to be right about. Flood generally seemed to lean in a way of TMI

[QUOTE=FM-The Great Flood;1015616]I am not platypus, but I think the fake poison its meh. And if that is what kept people away from.shooting at possible town kp then I think its a net good tbh[/QUOTE]

All of the interactions with Plat and about Plat could easily be w/w

I think Plat loses this one too tbh

The Great Flood

Originally Posted by FM-The Great Flood

Player 2 I need lore on why Luigi decided to concur in pirate activities

Originally Posted by FM-The Great Flood

FM-Matchstick Man (6 [L-93]):
FM-Protagonist Hair, FM-Scarf, FM-Ringmaster, FM-Goblin and Worg, FM-Bad Hair Day, FM-Lassie

FM-Pilgrim Anatomy (5 [L-94]):
FM-Old Lickilicky, FM-Sonrisa, FM-The Hat, FM-Red Cross, FM-Grate

FM-Oink (4 [L-95]):
FM-Goldfish Bowl, FM-Not Enough Legs, FM-Turquoise, FM-Chromatography

FM-Protagonist Hair (3 [L-96]):
FM-Angry Rectangle, FM-Pareidolia, FM-ZOMG

FM-Old Lickilicky (5 [L-94]):
FM-Yellow Snow, FM-Sad Super Saiyan, FM-Tinnitus, FM-The Great Flood, FM-Player 2

FM-Turquoise (3 [L-96]):
FM-Autumn, FM-Catnip, FM-Disco Dancer

FM-Candyfloss (4 [L-95]):
FM-Tiny Hippo, FM-Droopy Snout, FM-Lipstick, FM-Platypus



For reference later

Just an interesting list

Originally Posted by FM-The Great Flood

I dont think Four Past Seven and Player 2 are aligned based on this post . Can we add a clarification meaning that if one flip scum the other should not be shot at?

Flood later retracts this

Originally Posted by FM-The Great Flood

Is it been explained what happened between 4p7 and player 2 ?
For what I gathered Four past seven couldnt rolecop them, but someone else before could rolecop player 2 and told they were a pirate?

Blah blah some fishing for mech

Originally Posted by FM-The Great Flood

I think that everyon that can holster until ITA 2 should do that.

The people who cant should shoot at player 2 for the snuggles shot (they were on the list, snuggles wasn't)

Recommends everyone who has to shoot at ITA 1 to shoot at Player 2 for policy reasons

Originally Posted by FM-The Great Flood

iirc , chibi said that the deads said choo choo looked town.
Droopy said that they migh be able to confirm if joycat conditional green checks are legit
And personally I think chromatology has been towny.

Player 2 received some wounds ITA1 so they should have higher odds of being blasted (some people thought their reaction to the shots was towny tho. I am not one of those)

Personally Im wanting to shoot Parei

The parentheses are interesting

Originally Posted by FM-The Great Flood

Yeah, they skipped the tier 1 in ITAs to go directly at Player 2

I ask if Work shot at P2 and Flood confirms

This is all in line with other wolves
If P2 is wolf, the other wolves were invested to make sure they had recommended shooting there and distanced

---

Originally Posted by FM-Platypus

Goldfish opening post of this day seems a bit flaily but idk, maybe that slot resolves after today. Then again, Snuggles is also still alive

Originally Posted by FM-The Great Flood

Flaily as in scummy or what ?

Originally Posted by FM-Platypus

Yeah, like it's giving me vibes of a wolf that realizes the position they were in at EoD so now at SoD they are trying to preempt too much pressure on themselves

Originally Posted by FM-The Great Flood

Oh okay thanks, will keep in mind if I reread it because altho I sensed the vibe of Im in danger I kinda thought it came from a towny pov

Game relevant discussion of meh value

Originally Posted by FM-The Great Flood

I asked them about it, and they said that they werent notified of a heal

I posit that Plat's poison of Snuggles might be towny especially if Snuggles wasn't healed
Flood says that Snuggles wasn't healed, so indirect support of my town read on Plat

Originally Posted by FM-The Great Flood

Also Idk who said it, but yeah if Chibi poison is real and they flip town is a very bad look for Platypus . But being honest here I think it'll be fake

Originally Posted by FM-The Great Flood

For reference, here is Choo Choo list that they typed atm .

T1: Anthill / Candyfloss / Dredge / Monet Rocket
T2: ZOMG / Platypus

I'd say this may be a good look on Choo Choo , and also pointing at Candy/Dredge/Platypus having a wolf, more likely 2 ?

This post is interesting, especially the last line, saying that Candy/Dredge/Plat has a wolf, more likely 2. Can't help but think that that's the thing a wolf player like Flood just happened to be right about. Flood generally seemed to lean in a way of TMI

Originally Posted by FM-The Great Flood

I am not platypus, but I think the fake poison its meh. And if that is what kept people away from.shooting at possible town kp then I think its a net good tbh

All of the interactions with Plat and about Plat could easily be w/w

I think Plat loses this one too tbh

[QUOTE=FM-Player 2;1019716]Yarr mateys, how ya'll doin?

If theres any more questions you want me to answer Im here until EOD now I think. I feel you both have the answer its just dealing with paranoia, but just dont get swept up in it and we got this. And like I said if I can help you put it aside, then lemme know![/QUOTE]

Can you pinky promise you're not wolf?

Originally Posted by FM-Player 2

Yarr mateys, how ya'll doin?

If theres any more questions you want me to answer Im here until EOD now I think. I feel you both have the answer its just dealing with paranoia, but just dont get swept up in it and we got this. And like I said if I can help you put it aside, then lemme know!

Can you pinky promise you're not wolf?

Agony

Agony

[QUOTE=FM-Autumn;1019713]idk i think like. logically it should be platypus. that'd make more sense with the interactions etc

(but also for some reason i keep having the feeling that it might just be p2 somehow)[/QUOTE]

Same!

I'm stuck on some mech things around P2 like
Could they have been anti claimed at some point? They claimed strong investigative and didn't die
Yellow claimed to shoot at P2. Why did they claim that? Would be very in line with how Yellow plays wolf to claim it on a teammate
Lassie dying and writing in their message to me that the action them and P2 was talking about was a voyeur action

But then arguments for P2 being town is how strongly some wolves went after them
But in the same breath
COSPICIOUSLY SO?

Also vibes and necromancy

But it should just be Plat no?

Originally Posted by FM-Autumn

idk i think like. logically it should be platypus. that'd make more sense with the interactions etc

(but also for some reason i keep having the feeling that it might just be p2 somehow)

Same!

I'm stuck on some mech things around P2 like
Could they have been anti claimed at some point? They claimed strong investigative and didn't die
Yellow claimed to shoot at P2. Why did they claim that? Would be very in line with how Yellow plays wolf to claim it on a teammate
Lassie dying and writing in their message to me that the action them and P2 was talking about was a voyeur action

But then arguments for P2 being town is how strongly some wolves went after them
But in the same breath
COSPICIOUSLY SO?

Also vibes and necromancy

But it should just be Plat no?

Imma say it

It's Plat as 3p lol

Imma say it

It's Plat as 3p lol

Alright

I need to sleep

I'm leaning Plat now after going through ISOs

P2 being wolf just seems
So weird
Especially from Goblin
Like they just went fuck this guy but also let's argue for the town poisoner to live longer
When Goblin was all about power wolfing

Generally Plat fits in way more with how we see wolves treating other wolves
Goblin and Scarf backing them up a little bit
Pizza being negative to them

And P2 fits more with how we know wolves treated town
Goblin and Scarf coming for his head
Scarf not caring about him at all before that
Goblin going after him early

I don't really see how this suddenly would be reversed with this one player

I think there could be other explanations for the mech stuff and the kills
Like Plat could've just not killed me because I've been defending them
They could've just not realised they were marked or had to take a chance or I don't even know
Or Choo was coaching them on what powers were important to take out
We just don't know

Also I think P2 was pretty towny in reacting to Lassie's message tbh
It's more like "Huh, I don't fucking know is it even important" and kind of not understanding the problem
Instead of going dramatic

There's always room for doubt
But it seems to me right now that it's just Plat tbh

Will continue tomorrow
No reason not to use the time and suffer as much as possible

Good night

Alright

I need to sleep

I'm leaning Plat now after going through ISOs

P2 being wolf just seems
So weird
Especially from Goblin
Like they just went fuck this guy but also let's argue for the town poisoner to live longer
When Goblin was all about power wolfing

Generally Plat fits in way more with how we see wolves treating other wolves
Goblin and Scarf backing them up a little bit
Pizza being negative to them

And P2 fits more with how we know wolves treated town
Goblin and Scarf coming for his head
Scarf not caring about him at all before that
Goblin going after him early

I don't really see how this suddenly would be reversed with this one player

I think there could be other explanations for the mech stuff and the kills
Like Plat could've just not killed me because I've been defending them
They could've just not realised they were marked or had to take a chance or I don't even know
Or Choo was coaching them on what powers were important to take out
We just don't know

Also I think P2 was pretty towny in reacting to Lassie's message tbh
It's more like "Huh, I don't fucking know is it even important" and kind of not understanding the problem
Instead of going dramatic

There's always room for doubt
But it seems to me right now that it's just Plat tbh

Will continue tomorrow
No reason not to use the time and suffer as much as possible

Good night

[COLOR="#FF0000"]Space Pizza
[/COLOR]
Generally Pizza seems pretty TMI and transparent with intentions as wolf
Had a couple of "Who even is that" with wolf mates
Shot Pyramid
Generally leans a bit more bus and TMI

[QUOTE=FM-Space Pizza;997228]im not sure what else we're meant to do tbh, apart from comment on people's avatars

scarf's is cute
pareidolia's is clever

that is all, we may now resume overanalyzing posts, thank you[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Player 2;997234]Is it just me or did you just ask what wolves are meant to do at the start of a game[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Space Pizza;997261]it is unfortunate that you had to resort to piracy due to a lack of access to literacy in your childhood, luigi. chasing spiky monsters and eating "mushrooms" all the time must have a terrible effect on the mind. i actually suspect you may have PTSD, and you have my full compassion. if you wanna talk about it, ask peach, im sure she'll listen. ive heard she was formed as a therapist

yes, that is what you get for drawing luigi :P[/QUOTE]

Kind of really hate this interaction actually
Especially since Pizza interacted with a lot of wolves at the beginning of the game
But earlier, I've thought all awkward silly interactions with wolves are w/w, and it's not
But I do hate it

[QUOTE=FM-Space Pizza;998828]I haven't really thought much about most of those people but

- scarf looked good/cool/genuine/etc but i dont remember why
- pareidolia still feels overconfident in spite of his explanation, maybe he's just a very calculated player in general but i have doubts
- droopy snout didnt like hippo for "not looking genuine" reasons, but i disagree with him. looked at his iso right now and he apparently went fully disregarding this, never followed up on it, and now is hitting on sonrisa [URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/51399-KRC-Sc2Mafia-13th-Anniversary-Game-(S-FM-357)?p=998532#post998532"](#1811)[/URL] for a wall of quotes that make sonrisa look towny imo. don't trust droopy snoopy
- sonrisa probably town due to what i just said above. they seem to emotively overreact to anyone pushing them in a towny way, doesn't even try to hide it or w/e (cf. "because he's voting me")
- bad hair day posted one towny/relatable post as his first or second post, dont remember much but slightly like
- pilgrim is filler iirc, null
- player 2 is luigi pirate that felt weird, asked me an irrelevant/blatant misread question, slightly dislike
- lipstick gives me bad vibes of filler thats for the sake of filling instead of being for the sake of fun, unlike pilgrim who was having fun with judge jokes[/QUOTE]

Includes Player 2 in slightly dislike

[QUOTE=FM-Player 2;998903]For a space pizza ya be havin keen eyes, wanting to be joinin me crew as lookout?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Space Pizza;998932]me be trusting you not enough, me no wanna, sorry
[s]i don't trust captains with ptsd[/s][/QUOTE]

Blah
Hate it

[QUOTE=FM-Space Pizza;1009667]why would you ever just shoot without asking
i didn't have a read on that slot but i don't think they were hated at all? tbh you should go unless you have something groundbreaking imo[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Space Pizza;1009736]i must have missed your claim? might be useful to restate it if you're town tbh
(with actions obviously)[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Space Pizza;1009779]is luigi piloting a pirate tank or what
[MENTION=46694]FM-Player 2[/MENTION] what are you claiming exactly
are you saying people want you dead
if you're town, it's literally now or never[/QUOTE]

Slightly interesting
Pressing P2 to claim again

[QUOTE=FM-Space Pizza;1009850]ngl this looks like townie frustration though[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Space Pizza;1009870]i do think you should calm down though, this is not exactly healthy or fun for thread state. your shot [I]was[/I] bad, to be fair. you're probably town but need to go in cool productive solvy mode now imo[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Space Pizza;1009950]no clue about many of those people, but
- take off player 2 (towny frustration in recent events) and maybe hat (he's not horrible, not super towny either but id like to see him try and participate in itas)
- murder chroma, platypus, monet
- mr clean is definetly going up there for the random stuff, he's just going "meh i can shoot whoever" rn[/QUOTE]

Comes around on P2 after reading towny frustration
I thiiiiink maybe I lean this being genuine and TMI
There is the opportunity to call it fake if w/w
Reads to me more like "Oh I can't wolf read this"

Like the big wolves were trying to bite P2's head off
While Pizza said it was towny frustrations

What we know is that the big wolves were trying to powerwolf
While Pizza seemed to float on some early bussing and generally TMI-ing

---

[QUOTE=FM-Platypus;1009436]It’s hard to relate or find a reason to hero shoot Chroma, not sure why you would do it if you are town.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Space Pizza;1009512]i... what
how



[I]what[/I]
and then you just sheep on anthill?

if chroma flips scum, you're next
anthill/platypus not w/w[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Space Pizza;1009534]wait the platypus actually killed anthill? ...

chroma should go.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Space Pizza;1013804]no, quite the opposite lol
platypus was shielding chroma earlier without a steady reasoning to do so





and they had been generally very much not towny, centered on survival and not solvy
meanwhile I'm still not sure why Anthill was shot and that definetly wasn't made clear by platypus

hence i think if we kill chroma and they flip red, which is likely, we have a nice package of two wolves[/QUOTE]

As far as they do talk about Plat, it's all quite negative
But it's always this weird thing of Chroma first then Plat for some reason

---

Overall still slightly worse for Plat than P2 imo

Space Pizza

Generally Pizza seems pretty TMI and transparent with intentions as wolf
Had a couple of "Who even is that" with wolf mates
Shot Pyramid
Generally leans a bit more bus and TMI

Originally Posted by FM-Space Pizza

im not sure what else we're meant to do tbh, apart from comment on people's avatars

scarf's is cute
pareidolia's is clever

that is all, we may now resume overanalyzing posts, thank you

Originally Posted by FM-Player 2

Is it just me or did you just ask what wolves are meant to do at the start of a game

Originally Posted by FM-Space Pizza

it is unfortunate that you had to resort to piracy due to a lack of access to literacy in your childhood, luigi. chasing spiky monsters and eating "mushrooms" all the time must have a terrible effect on the mind. i actually suspect you may have PTSD, and you have my full compassion. if you wanna talk about it, ask peach, im sure she'll listen. ive heard she was formed as a therapist

yes, that is what you get for drawing luigi :P

Kind of really hate this interaction actually
Especially since Pizza interacted with a lot of wolves at the beginning of the game
But earlier, I've thought all awkward silly interactions with wolves are w/w, and it's not
But I do hate it

Originally Posted by FM-Space Pizza

I haven't really thought much about most of those people but

- scarf looked good/cool/genuine/etc but i dont remember why
- pareidolia still feels overconfident in spite of his explanation, maybe he's just a very calculated player in general but i have doubts
- droopy snout didnt like hippo for "not looking genuine" reasons, but i disagree with him. looked at his iso right now and he apparently went fully disregarding this, never followed up on it, and now is hitting on sonrisa (#1811) for a wall of quotes that make sonrisa look towny imo. don't trust droopy snoopy
- sonrisa probably town due to what i just said above. they seem to emotively overreact to anyone pushing them in a towny way, doesn't even try to hide it or w/e (cf. "because he's voting me")
- bad hair day posted one towny/relatable post as his first or second post, dont remember much but slightly like
- pilgrim is filler iirc, null
- player 2 is luigi pirate that felt weird, asked me an irrelevant/blatant misread question, slightly dislike
- lipstick gives me bad vibes of filler thats for the sake of filling instead of being for the sake of fun, unlike pilgrim who was having fun with judge jokes

Includes Player 2 in slightly dislike

Originally Posted by FM-Player 2

For a space pizza ya be havin keen eyes, wanting to be joinin me crew as lookout?

Originally Posted by FM-Space Pizza

me be trusting you not enough, me no wanna, sorry
i don't trust captains with ptsd

Blah
Hate it

Originally Posted by FM-Space Pizza

why would you ever just shoot without asking
i didn't have a read on that slot but i don't think they were hated at all? tbh you should go unless you have something groundbreaking imo

Originally Posted by FM-Space Pizza

i must have missed your claim? might be useful to restate it if you're town tbh
(with actions obviously)

Originally Posted by FM-Space Pizza

is luigi piloting a pirate tank or what
@FM-Player 2 what are you claiming exactly
are you saying people want you dead
if you're town, it's literally now or never

Slightly interesting
Pressing P2 to claim again

Originally Posted by FM-Space Pizza

ngl this looks like townie frustration though

Originally Posted by FM-Space Pizza

i do think you should calm down though, this is not exactly healthy or fun for thread state. your shot was bad, to be fair. you're probably town but need to go in cool productive solvy mode now imo

Originally Posted by FM-Space Pizza

no clue about many of those people, but
- take off player 2 (towny frustration in recent events) and maybe hat (he's not horrible, not super towny either but id like to see him try and participate in itas)
- murder chroma, platypus, monet
- mr clean is definetly going up there for the random stuff, he's just going "meh i can shoot whoever" rn

Comes around on P2 after reading towny frustration
I thiiiiink maybe I lean this being genuine and TMI
There is the opportunity to call it fake if w/w
Reads to me more like "Oh I can't wolf read this"

Like the big wolves were trying to bite P2's head off
While Pizza said it was towny frustrations

What we know is that the big wolves were trying to powerwolf
While Pizza seemed to float on some early bussing and generally TMI-ing

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Originally Posted by FM-Platypus

It’s hard to relate or find a reason to hero shoot Chroma, not sure why you would do it if you are town.

Originally Posted by FM-Space Pizza

i... what
how



what
and then you just sheep on anthill?

if chroma flips scum, you're next
anthill/platypus not w/w

Originally Posted by FM-Space Pizza

wait the platypus actually killed anthill? ...

chroma should go.

Originally Posted by FM-Space Pizza

no, quite the opposite lol
platypus was shielding chroma earlier without a steady reasoning to do so





and they had been generally very much not towny, centered on survival and not solvy
meanwhile I'm still not sure why Anthill was shot and that definetly wasn't made clear by platypus

hence i think if we kill chroma and they flip red, which is likely, we have a nice package of two wolves

As far as they do talk about Plat, it's all quite negative
But it's always this weird thing of Chroma first then Plat for some reason

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Overall still slightly worse for Plat than P2 imo

[QUOTE=FM-Platypus;1019688]I mean we knew the posts overall would be in P2‘s favour, no? There’s a reason we put P2 in the town core and not me lmao[/QUOTE]

Yeah

But I didn't know how much

Honestly looking for that interaction who is hard hard AI

Originally Posted by FM-Platypus

I mean we knew the posts overall would be in P2‘s favour, no? There’s a reason we put P2 in the town core and not me lmao

Yeah

But I didn't know how much

Honestly looking for that interaction who is hard hard AI

[QUOTE=FM-Platypus;1019446]But you’ll hate yourself even more if you decide to Lynch me tonight and I flip town. Because you knew it wasn’t the right play[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Platypus;1019454]lol if it helps you sleep at night. I honestly just wanna see you win it out and be voted MVP for your efforts and part of that is sticking to your early read of me. It’s the whole glory package[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Platypus;1019461]Honestly you got pretty close to a one man show though. I’ll probably always remember your shot[/QUOTE]

These posts are so slimy if wolf lmao

Originally Posted by FM-Platypus

But you’ll hate yourself even more if you decide to Lynch me tonight and I flip town. Because you knew it wasn’t the right play

Originally Posted by FM-Platypus

lol if it helps you sleep at night. I honestly just wanna see you win it out and be voted MVP for your efforts and part of that is sticking to your early read of me. It’s the whole glory package

Originally Posted by FM-Platypus

Honestly you got pretty close to a one man show though. I’ll probably always remember your shot

These posts are so slimy if wolf lmao

[QUOTE=FM-Autumn;1019684]i do think though that if we look at this just in terms of posting, p2 has been a lot townier than plat basically entire game

(i'm just still kinda worrying about the nightkills etc. like. maybe plat just didnt think about stuff like licky's vengeful action, but. it still doesn't make sense for plat to kill licky there)

(i also havent actually read literally anything today so i'm not being very useful rn tbh XD i'll probably try to look through some stuff tomorrow lol)[/QUOTE]


Would appreciate a second opinion on the interactions I'm pulling up

Originally Posted by FM-Autumn

i do think though that if we look at this just in terms of posting, p2 has been a lot townier than plat basically entire game

(i'm just still kinda worrying about the nightkills etc. like. maybe plat just didnt think about stuff like licky's vengeful action, but. it still doesn't make sense for plat to kill licky there)

(i also havent actually read literally anything today so i'm not being very useful rn tbh XD i'll probably try to look through some stuff tomorrow lol)

Would appreciate a second opinion on the interactions I'm pulling up

[QUOTE=FM-Autumn;1019683]my tinfoil about that is that what if wolves did think that p2 just outed with that shot on snuggles and wanted to be among the first people to suspect/try to kill that just for the sake of the credit?

(but even then it doesnt make sense to continue it that way even after townies had said they dont want p2 killed tbh)[/QUOTE]

Mhhhh

Yeah

What bothers me is how strongly and hostile some of the interaction is like
Usually w/v isn't that hostile orrrr??????

Overall the interactions looks wilder if P2 is wolf
Plat as wolf makes the most sense so far

Originally Posted by FM-Autumn

my tinfoil about that is that what if wolves did think that p2 just outed with that shot on snuggles and wanted to be among the first people to suspect/try to kill that just for the sake of the credit?

(but even then it doesnt make sense to continue it that way even after townies had said they dont want p2 killed tbh)

Mhhhh

Yeah

What bothers me is how strongly and hostile some of the interaction is like
Usually w/v isn't that hostile orrrr??????

Overall the interactions looks wilder if P2 is wolf
Plat as wolf makes the most sense so far

[COLOR="#FF0000"]Scarf[/COLOR]

Hardly talks about or to Player 2 at all
The few mentions there is aren't interesting enough to quote or about mech

[QUOTE=FM-Scarf;999158]I'm sorry but saying your YAHARRS didn't draw some eyes is just wrong lol[/QUOTE]

Like this

[QUOTE=FM-Scarf;1007527]was thinking I'd need to save my posts for today but this eod is so slow
[MENTION=46691]FM-Peekaboo[/MENTION] - lighter green is soft reads, darker green is more concrete. Same for reds

[COLOR="#00FF00"]FM-Autumn[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]FM-Bad Hair Day[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]FM-Candyfloss[/COLOR]
FM-Catnip
FM-Chibi Minnie
FM-Choo-Choo
[COLOR="#00FF00"]FM-Disco Dancer[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#008000"]FM-Droopy Snout[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]FM-Eyescream[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]FM-Four Past Seven[/COLOR]
FM-Goblin and Worg
[COLOR="#FFA07A"]FM-Goldfish Bowl[/COLOR]
FM-Hon Hon Hon
FM-Joycat
[COLOR="#00FF00"]FM-Lassie[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]FM-Lipstick[/COLOR]
FM-Mining Peep
FM-Monet Rocket
FM-Mr Clean
[COLOR="#FF0000"]FM-Oink[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]FM-Pareidolia[/COLOR]
FM-Platypus
FM-Player 2
[COLOR="#00FF00"]FM-Sad Super Saiyan[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#008000"]FM-Scarf[/COLOR]
FM-Snuggles
[COLOR="#00FF00"]FM-The Great Flood[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#FF0000"]FM-The Hat[/COLOR]
FM-ZOMG[/QUOTE]

Has Player 2 as null which seems in line with hardly paying attention to them at all
This on page 12 in the ISO
It's just very nothing on P2
(Plat is also null in this list, but Scarf has actually town read them a bit before that)

Only real mentions are discussing shotlists
In which both P2 and Plat are handled the same way as options in a shotlist

[QUOTE=FM-Scarf;1009806]You keep saying this like it’s clearing[/QUOTE]

Around the time P2 has shot Snuggles Scarf briefly join in on the bullying a bit

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[QUOTE=FM-Platypus;997287]You can keep your points[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Scarf;997300]I like this post because its calling attention to this while not actually going for a guess[/QUOTE]

Probably mother Scarf protecting her ducklings again
Although I'm fully biased at this point

[QUOTE=FM-Platypus;999492]It's fine to take a step back. Don't let the game get to you, maybe take a breather and try to reconnect later with a fresh mindset[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Scarf;999497]thanks, might do that

but it's a weird feeling because I don't feel particularly bad about it just confused why I seem to be getting sort of ignored by the thread here - it's especially bad when it comes to reads on me, everything feels so surface level so I'm having a hard time getting my own reads on people. I'm trying pretty hard to interact with my townleans and keep getting brushed off[/QUOTE]

Mhhh

Funny thing is I'm pretty sure another wolf did the "keep your town points"
And Pareil also did a "Maybe take a break and step back" to me
So it's funny if Plat is wolf and does the same things

[QUOTE=FM-Scarf;999566]I’m back. Break was good

decided to organize the list of people who I actually think are towny so I can stop focusing only on scumreads. Ordered by tiers but not within tiers, everyone on here is above null but sort of varying levels going down. Confidence is fairly high for first two tiers and then dips down for the others.

Ringmaster, Naptime
Snow, Shrimp, Snuggles, Pizza
Bad Hair Day, Ruffles
SSS, Zomg
here’s where things start to get a bit dicey:
Oink
Platypus, Goblin, Catnip
Maybe protag now??

feel free to ask about anything here and if I can point out specifics I will.[/QUOTE]

So early game is softly reading Plat town

[QUOTE=FM-Scarf;1006018]LIST AFTER REMOVALS
FM-Popcorn Axolot
FM-Monet Rocket
FM-Decepticon
FM-Platypus
FM-Wakka Wakka
FM-Thumbs Up

ok will round it off and then [MENTION=46691]FM-Peekaboo[/MENTION]. Last pick was hard but I remember zomg being surface towny.[/QUOTE]

Doesn't take Plat off ITAs when it comes down to that
But they were already concerned with taking off ZOMG I guess

[QUOTE=FM-Dredge;1009876]I don't think Plat or BHD or Eye were particularly towny this ITA [MENTION=46701]FM-Scarf[/MENTION]

of could the anthill shot was dogshit but they also kind of worked off the chaos imo. Plat legit acted like he had no reads.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FM-Scarf;1009903]Are you going to ita bhd again

I think the only one of these I’d be *willing* to shoot rn is platy and they’re on the failed shots list so I’d rather rethink if that’s the best option[/QUOTE]

If I understand correctly
Scarf is actually softly arguing Plat over BHD here?

Overall pattern is that Scarf town read Plat for minor things early
And then started including them in shot lists etc when the tides had turned

I think this overall also looks worse for Plat than P2

Scarf

Hardly talks about or to Player 2 at all
The few mentions there is aren't interesting enough to quote or about mech

Originally Posted by FM-Scarf

I'm sorry but saying your YAHARRS didn't draw some eyes is just wrong lol

Like this

Originally Posted by FM-Scarf

was thinking I'd need to save my posts for today but this eod is so slow
@FM-Peekaboo - lighter green is soft reads, darker green is more concrete. Same for reds

FM-Autumn
FM-Bad Hair Day
FM-Candyfloss
FM-Catnip
FM-Chibi Minnie
FM-Choo-Choo
FM-Disco Dancer
FM-Droopy Snout
FM-Eyescream
FM-Four Past Seven
FM-Goblin and Worg
FM-Goldfish Bowl
FM-Hon Hon Hon
FM-Joycat
FM-Lassie
FM-Lipstick
FM-Mining Peep
FM-Monet Rocket
FM-Mr Clean
FM-Oink
FM-Pareidolia
FM-Platypus
FM-Player 2
FM-Sad Super Saiyan
FM-Scarf
FM-Snuggles
FM-The Great Flood
FM-The Hat
FM-ZOMG

Has Player 2 as null which seems in line with hardly paying attention to them at all
This on page 12 in the ISO
It's just very nothing on P2
(Plat is also null in this list, but Scarf has actually town read them a bit before that)

Only real mentions are discussing shotlists
In which both P2 and Plat are handled the same way as options in a shotlist

Originally Posted by FM-Scarf

You keep saying this like it’s clearing

Around the time P2 has shot Snuggles Scarf briefly join in on the bullying a bit

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Originally Posted by FM-Platypus

You can keep your points

Originally Posted by FM-Scarf

I like this post because its calling attention to this while not actually going for a guess

Probably mother Scarf protecting her ducklings again
Although I'm fully biased at this point

Originally Posted by FM-Platypus

It's fine to take a step back. Don't let the game get to you, maybe take a breather and try to reconnect later with a fresh mindset

Originally Posted by FM-Scarf

thanks, might do that

but it's a weird feeling because I don't feel particularly bad about it just confused why I seem to be getting sort of ignored by the thread here - it's especially bad when it comes to reads on me, everything feels so surface level so I'm having a hard time getting my own reads on people. I'm trying pretty hard to interact with my townleans and keep getting brushed off

Mhhh

Funny thing is I'm pretty sure another wolf did the "keep your town points"
And Pareil also did a "Maybe take a break and step back" to me
So it's funny if Plat is wolf and does the same things

Originally Posted by FM-Scarf

I’m back. Break was good

decided to organize the list of people who I actually think are towny so I can stop focusing only on scumreads. Ordered by tiers but not within tiers, everyone on here is above null but sort of varying levels going down. Confidence is fairly high for first two tiers and then dips down for the others.

Ringmaster, Naptime
Snow, Shrimp, Snuggles, Pizza
Bad Hair Day, Ruffles
SSS, Zomg
here’s where things start to get a bit dicey:
Oink
Platypus, Goblin, Catnip
Maybe protag now??

feel free to ask about anything here and if I can point out specifics I will.

So early game is softly reading Plat town

Originally Posted by FM-Scarf

LIST AFTER REMOVALS
FM-Popcorn Axolot
FM-Monet Rocket
FM-Decepticon
FM-Platypus
FM-Wakka Wakka
FM-Thumbs Up

ok will round it off and then @FM-Peekaboo . Last pick was hard but I remember zomg being surface towny.

Doesn't take Plat off ITAs when it comes down to that
But they were already concerned with taking off ZOMG I guess

Originally Posted by FM-Dredge

I don't think Plat or BHD or Eye were particularly towny this ITA @FM-Scarf

of could the anthill shot was dogshit but they also kind of worked off the chaos imo. Plat legit acted like he had no reads.

Originally Posted by FM-Scarf

Are you going to ita bhd again

I think the only one of these I’d be *willing* to shoot rn is platy and they’re on the failed shots list so I’d rather rethink if that’s the best option

If I understand correctly
Scarf is actually softly arguing Plat over BHD here?

Overall pattern is that Scarf town read Plat for minor things early
And then started including them in shot lists etc when the tides had turned

I think this overall also looks worse for Plat than P2

Plat is losing the ISO comb throughs pretty hard right now

Plat is losing the ISO comb throughs pretty hard right now