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[QUOTE=FM-SadPeepo;983441]for the record, i dont have smiley/bee scum pair as a solid part of my worldview, i have it as a more likely possibility than floopy/waifu scum pair at the moment and ill see if that changes following an ISO

I don't really like you pointing this out though, because I think that feedback was likely thanks to council and you're reading as a mafia trying to hunt council right now[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure I get what you're saying.

Originally Posted by FM-SadPeepo

for the record, i dont have smiley/bee scum pair as a solid part of my worldview, i have it as a more likely possibility than floopy/waifu scum pair at the moment and ill see if that changes following an ISO

I don't really like you pointing this out though, because I think that feedback was likely thanks to council and you're reading as a mafia trying to hunt council right now

I'm not sure I get what you're saying.

[QUOTE=FM-Shocked Kirby Face;983437]we're solving who is likely to have the silent ITA

floopy is the most obvious player[/QUOTE]

Got it.

[MENTION=46516]FM-SadPeepo[/MENTION] my iso probably looks like shit, but fwiw you trying to scumpair me with bee doesn't make a whole lot of sense when I was AFAIK the only one doubting sunset's feedback on bee's alignment.

Originally Posted by FM-Shocked Kirby Face

we're solving who is likely to have the silent ITA

floopy is the most obvious player

Got it.

@FM-SadPeepo my iso probably looks like shit, but fwiw you trying to scumpair me with bee doesn't make a whole lot of sense when I was AFAIK the only one doubting sunset's feedback on bee's alignment.

Although the floopy direction is kind of random. I dont even know what scumpair that would be assuming there isn't a lone wolf. Guess just poe.

Although the floopy direction is kind of random. I dont even know what scumpair that would be assuming there isn't a lone wolf. Guess just poe.

[QUOTE=FM-Shocked Kirby Face;983431]your "lynch me" post didn't work[/QUOTE]

Yeah it did.

Originally Posted by FM-Shocked Kirby Face

your "lynch me" post didn't work

Yeah it did.

Waddup

Waddup

That'd be weird for krc.

That'd be weird for krc.

What does that mean exactly? Death tailor?

What does that mean exactly? Death tailor?

There was another thing about Bee's alignment if they were a lurking wolf and what they could do with sunset's apparent feedback as far as ITAs go.. likewise with peepo but I just occam's razored it and assume both really did log off.

Speaking of which, I'm out for now.

There was another thing about Bee's alignment if they were a lurking wolf and what they could do with sunset's apparent feedback as far as ITAs go.. likewise with peepo but I just occam's razored it and assume both really did log off.

Speaking of which, I'm out for now.

I would totally look into anime waifu yolo shooting today though. Don't forget that.

I would totally look into anime waifu yolo shooting today though. Don't forget that.

[QUOTE=FM-Shocked Kirby Face;982980]need to decide if genuine town or scum ate

will think over[/QUOTE]

I'd prefer you just lynch me and stop thinking this is a wolf gambit. This only gets worse as the PoE shrinks.

You lynch me and have a pool of like 3-4 people to kill if you believe sunset. I doubt wolves have enough kills to make that impossible but I'd expect them to cause town gridlock. My plan works, now lynch me.

Originally Posted by FM-Shocked Kirby Face

need to decide if genuine town or scum ate

will think over

I'd prefer you just lynch me and stop thinking this is a wolf gambit. This only gets worse as the PoE shrinks.

You lynch me and have a pool of like 3-4 people to kill if you believe sunset. I doubt wolves have enough kills to make that impossible but I'd expect them to cause town gridlock. My plan works, now lynch me.

If there are no ITAs tomorrow, my ability would be worthless even if I did it. My only other abilities of note would let me just live longer. Nobody townreads me here. A push against bee at this point seems like wanting to kill a slot just for giving up, which is fine but also suboptimal.

So it'd be better to lynch me today and get my slot out of the way since I'm functionally useless this game and can't contribute more.

On top of that, I can't be sure the information sunset claims to have received is real. But a top town read believes them. Meaning that I have no sway over a key part of how this game unfolds. Nobody cares about how scummy sunset is or was, because everyone from that chat is basically dead. So he will live until lategame in the event that he's powerwolfing, and I'd be a distraction from that. Literally a liability in the endgame where I have zero info as to how a third faction plans on dealing with it.

So yeah lynch me.

If there are no ITAs tomorrow, my ability would be worthless even if I did it. My only other abilities of note would let me just live longer. Nobody townreads me here. A push against bee at this point seems like wanting to kill a slot just for giving up, which is fine but also suboptimal.

So it'd be better to lynch me today and get my slot out of the way since I'm functionally useless this game and can't contribute more.

On top of that, I can't be sure the information sunset claims to have received is real. But a top town read believes them. Meaning that I have no sway over a key part of how this game unfolds. Nobody cares about how scummy sunset is or was, because everyone from that chat is basically dead. So he will live until lategame in the event that he's powerwolfing, and I'd be a distraction from that. Literally a liability in the endgame where I have zero info as to how a third faction plans on dealing with it.

So yeah lynch me.

[QUOTE=FM-Shocked Kirby Face;982974]ok

how do we do this[/QUOTE]

Same way you want to already.

Originally Posted by FM-Shocked Kirby Face

ok

how do we do this

Same way you want to already.

[Vote]FM-Bendy Gamer[/vote]

-vote FM-Bendy Gamer

[QUOTE=FM-Shocked Kirby Face;982969]I can see other wagons but I really think smiley is not town[/QUOTE]

Okay let's go after ITA2.

Originally Posted by FM-Shocked Kirby Face

I can see other wagons but I really think smiley is not town

Okay let's go after ITA2.

[QUOTE=FM-Sunset;982956]What use is your ITA boost gonna be when ITAs will probably be disabled tomorrow?

Also you're sus as shit and I don't believe you

Que mierda[/QUOTE]

How would you know what is going to be disabled tomorrow? You're parroting Kirby for no reason. Who in turn, is choosing to believe you for no reason.

Originally Posted by FM-Sunset

What use is your ITA boost gonna be when ITAs will probably be disabled tomorrow?

Also you're sus as shit and I don't believe you

Que mierda

How would you know what is going to be disabled tomorrow? You're parroting Kirby for no reason. Who in turn, is choosing to believe you for no reason.

And the only person in this game who gave a shit was Mud?

And the only person in this game who gave a shit was Mud?

Why would Sunset just attempt to shoot the slot who was going to give out guns to the 4 top consensus townreads?

Why would Sunset just attempt to shoot the slot who was going to give out guns to the 4 top consensus townreads?

Should have killed you years ago.

Should have killed you years ago.

[QUOTE=FM-Sunset;982888]What if you are council, Kirby?

¿Cual es tu nombre?[/QUOTE]

Kirby is council after that crap.

Worst part is, that was a silly plan anyway imo. If I still had my shot I'd be MORE inclined to shoot bees. Nobody would shoot a slot being lynched.

Originally Posted by FM-Sunset

What if you are council, Kirby?

¿Cual es tu nombre?

Kirby is council after that crap.

Worst part is, that was a silly plan anyway imo. If I still had my shot I'd be MORE inclined to shoot bees. Nobody would shoot a slot being lynched.

[QUOTE=FM-Shocked Kirby Face;982883]I have high confidence that this result is legitimate. Give bee a day and a night off this, if you want to reevaluate tomorrow do it. Don't lynch the player that just got greenchecked.[/QUOTE]

We're not at EOD and now you sound panicked. If you mean shot, then the whole reason we were voting to lynch bees is so that they wouldn't be shot and the pool would be smaller.

Originally Posted by FM-Shocked Kirby Face

I have high confidence that this result is legitimate. Give bee a day and a night off this, if you want to reevaluate tomorrow do it. Don't lynch the player that just got greenchecked.

We're not at EOD and now you sound panicked. If you mean shot, then the whole reason we were voting to lynch bees is so that they wouldn't be shot and the pool would be smaller.

[QUOTE=FM-Sunset;982876]Corroborated? Did anyone else get the same feedback or something similar? Just me?

¿Que tiempo hay?[/QUOTE]

I meant Kirby saying they have reason to believe you.

And then firing off with @'s.

Originally Posted by FM-Sunset

Corroborated? Did anyone else get the same feedback or something similar? Just me?

¿Que tiempo hay?

I meant Kirby saying they have reason to believe you.

And then firing off with @'s.

[QUOTE=FM-Shocked Kirby Face;982870]I'm confident that even if this is council, they won't have a way of lying to town

they're all about balance right? Bastard mechanics like that are very against the council's whole thing[/QUOTE]

Why wouldn't they? If they can give false feedback out of the blue to further their own ends, sounds like a thematic ability.

Originally Posted by FM-Shocked Kirby Face

I'm confident that even if this is council, they won't have a way of lying to town

they're all about balance right? Bastard mechanics like that are very against the council's whole thing

Why wouldn't they? If they can give false feedback out of the blue to further their own ends, sounds like a thematic ability.

I'm also suspicious because the feedback was directed to and corroborated to some degree by two slots who would have voted there.

I'm also suspicious because the feedback was directed to and corroborated to some degree by two slots who would have voted there.

[QUOTE=FM-Shocked Kirby Face;982865]possible. Good thing we care more about mafia.[/QUOTE]

Bee has equity to be scum here.
Council wants balance.
We were hard set on his lynch 40 minutes ago with the possibility of him being shot by somebody in that pool. Primarily after he wanted himself killed and felt like wolf/town who gave up.
Then out of nowhere all that happens. So, when I say council bullshit, I'm getting somewhat suspicious that they're inclined to shield scum in some capacity.

Originally Posted by FM-Shocked Kirby Face

possible. Good thing we care more about mafia.

Bee has equity to be scum here.
Council wants balance.
We were hard set on his lynch 40 minutes ago with the possibility of him being shot by somebody in that pool. Primarily after he wanted himself killed and felt like wolf/town who gave up.
Then out of nowhere all that happens. So, when I say council bullshit, I'm getting somewhat suspicious that they're inclined to shield scum in some capacity.

This is some council bullshit.

This is some council bullshit.

[QUOTE=FM-Sunset;982849]I just got feedback that said the person I was voting for is town. Unless you guys think I was lied to, I'm unvoting for now.

Mi nombre es Sunset[/QUOTE]

Why would you get that suddenly?

As opposed to somebody telling you that?

Originally Posted by FM-Sunset

I just got feedback that said the person I was voting for is town. Unless you guys think I was lied to, I'm unvoting for now.

Mi nombre es Sunset

Why would you get that suddenly?

As opposed to somebody telling you that?

[QUOTE=FM-Psychedelic Bee;982845]Wait it's in like an hour right

I won't be here I'm out glgl[/QUOTE]

Doubt.

Originally Posted by FM-Psychedelic Bee

Wait it's in like an hour right

I won't be here I'm out glgl

Doubt.

[QUOTE=FM-Psychedelic Bee;982837]Shoot me. Exe someone better pls[/QUOTE]

no. you gave up as town or wolf so i don't care. you go bye bye

Originally Posted by FM-Psychedelic Bee

Shoot me. Exe someone better pls

no. you gave up as town or wolf so i don't care. you go bye bye

[vote]unvote[/vote] hammer is seven. im voting bee after ITA2.

-vote unvote

hammer is seven. im voting bee after ITA2.

[vote]FM-Psychedelic Bee[/vote] let's just kill this and let the rest of that pool shoot each other. if bee wants to die there's no reason not to just lock that in as our lynch.

it also makes the players in the shooting pool have an clearer shot.

-vote FM-Psychedelic Bee

let's just kill this and let the rest of that pool shoot each other. if bee wants to die there's no reason not to just lock that in as our lynch.

it also makes the players in the shooting pool have an clearer shot.

[QUOTE=FM-Floopy;982801]why is trumpet-san here
why is peepo-san here
why isn't bee-san here[/QUOTE]

it was directed at bee.

your version would be the one that adds bee's name to the list and removes your own.

Originally Posted by FM-Floopy

why is trumpet-san here
why is peepo-san here
why isn't bee-san here

it was directed at bee.

your version would be the one that adds bee's name to the list and removes your own.

[QUOTE=FM-Shocked Kirby Face;982791]Wow I… really dislike this list, looking at it

Take peepo, trumpet, bendy off of it[/QUOTE]

I like peepo and trumpet. I just took the bottom half of my list and randomized it so there wasnt bias.

Originally Posted by FM-Shocked Kirby Face

Wow I… really dislike this list, looking at it

Take peepo, trumpet, bendy off of it

I like peepo and trumpet. I just took the bottom half of my list and randomized it so there wasnt bias.

this is going to wrong direction anyway. bee please only shoot in this pool of people if you choose to:

Bendy
Sadpeepo
Floopy
Hair So Wild
Aerial Trumpet
Renaissance Panda

we're gonna wind up talking mafia theory for hours and getting distracted

this is going to wrong direction anyway. bee please only shoot in this pool of people if you choose to:

Bendy
Sadpeepo
Floopy
Hair So Wild
Aerial Trumpet
Renaissance Panda

we're gonna wind up talking mafia theory for hours and getting distracted

[QUOTE=FM-Psychedelic Bee;982766]Give me a gun cause it'll be funny[/QUOTE]

would you shoot renaissance?

Originally Posted by FM-Psychedelic Bee

Give me a gun cause it'll be funny

would you shoot renaissance?

By the way, if you mean that you're down to let me give you guys guns tomorrow it's your obligation to turbo anyone who tries to ITA me. I don't know if that needed to be said but I'll do it anyway.

By the way, if you mean that you're down to let me give you guys guns tomorrow it's your obligation to turbo anyone who tries to ITA me. I don't know if that needed to be said but I'll do it anyway.

[QUOTE=FM-Shocked Kirby Face;982750]I believe town still has a slight majority though

I believe[/QUOTE]

4 wolves seems like a lot.

Originally Posted by FM-Shocked Kirby Face

I believe town still has a slight majority though

I believe

4 wolves seems like a lot.

[QUOTE=FM-Aerial Trumpet;982745]do you think he was intentionally exaggerating or is there a chance there were actually 9 mafia at the start of the game and we still have 4 more[/QUOTE]

If 9 is reasonable like Kirby speculates, then making a fake range by increasing the upper limit makes sense to me. People like adding more than subtracting.

Originally Posted by FM-Aerial Trumpet

do you think he was intentionally exaggerating or is there a chance there were actually 9 mafia at the start of the game and we still have 4 more

If 9 is reasonable like Kirby speculates, then making a fake range by increasing the upper limit makes sense to me. People like adding more than subtracting.

[QUOTE=FM-Shocked Kirby Face;982744]sunset/aerial/amogus/mud can all be council and likely some are, no reason to look too deep at that though and we'll resolve it later if we have to

scum contained entirely in smiley/hair/panda/floopy/bee is my dream world[/QUOTE]

Add bendy to your pool and I agree.

Originally Posted by FM-Shocked Kirby Face

sunset/aerial/amogus/mud can all be council and likely some are, no reason to look too deep at that though and we'll resolve it later if we have to

scum contained entirely in smiley/hair/panda/floopy/bee is my dream world

Add bendy to your pool and I agree.

I think Jesus saving scum!sunset would be a bit too much on the nose.

I think Jesus saving scum!sunset would be a bit too much on the nose.

[QUOTE=FM-Aerial Trumpet;982741]3/4th of JaG's lean town were wolves

Surely he included at least one of his wolf partners in null/light scum? One of Hair, Bendy, Floopy?[/QUOTE]

I'm not letting you get away with omitting yourself from his townleans after the chat you guys had. That should be out in the open even if I don't really scumread you rn.

Originally Posted by FM-Aerial Trumpet

3/4th of JaG's lean town were wolves

Surely he included at least one of his wolf partners in null/light scum? One of Hair, Bendy, Floopy?

I'm not letting you get away with omitting yourself from his townleans after the chat you guys had. That should be out in the open even if I don't really scumread you rn.

[QUOTE=FM-Shocked Kirby Face;982736]kk mb

you're chilling for today based on current plan then[/QUOTE]

You and mud better carry.

Originally Posted by FM-Shocked Kirby Face

kk mb

you're chilling for today based on current plan then

You and mud better carry.

[QUOTE=FM-Shocked Kirby Face;982732]wait it is?[/QUOTE]

Kitty.

Originally Posted by FM-Shocked Kirby Face

wait it is?

Kitty.

[QUOTE=FM-Shocked Kirby Face;982728]there's a few things that you've done that I find scummy and I don't think your role is real

that said I'm probably still shooting at hair because whenever I livepost alongside you I always feel better[/QUOTE]

My role is in the graveyard isn't it?

Originally Posted by FM-Shocked Kirby Face

there's a few things that you've done that I find scummy and I don't think your role is real

that said I'm probably still shooting at hair because whenever I livepost alongside you I always feel better

My role is in the graveyard isn't it?

[QUOTE=FM-Shocked Kirby Face;982725]13 left wow

guessing 2 of those are council, some amount are mafia, the rest town? Doubt any more neutrals

reason I say 2 council left is that a council of 2 (at start) is lame af, so probably not 1 rn, but a council of 4 (3 left) would be way more noticeable in how they're influencing the game rn

which bee will lol at me for saying[/QUOTE]

How do you agree with me so often and yet want me dead so much?

Originally Posted by FM-Shocked Kirby Face

13 left wow

guessing 2 of those are council, some amount are mafia, the rest town? Doubt any more neutrals

reason I say 2 council left is that a council of 2 (at start) is lame af, so probably not 1 rn, but a council of 4 (3 left) would be way more noticeable in how they're influencing the game rn

which bee will lol at me for saying

How do you agree with me so often and yet want me dead so much?

I shot at Jiggly then helped them win. Cool.

I shot at Jiggly then helped them win. Cool.

Neat.

Neat.

Aren't we 1 subscription for Jiggly away?

Aren't we 1 subscription for Jiggly away?

[QUOTE=FM-Shocked Kirby Face;982691]also just want to say that the "I will do this ability tomorrow" is a classic scumplay that I've seen before to give scum an extra night to do bad things

it is also town possibly

but we should not avoid smiley slot if we think it's scum, just for the chance that we get ITA buffs tomorrow

all things considered smiley is claiming a 48% chance at killing any scum with the extra shots[/QUOTE]

How'd you do that math

Originally Posted by FM-Shocked Kirby Face

also just want to say that the "I will do this ability tomorrow" is a classic scumplay that I've seen before to give scum an extra night to do bad things

it is also town possibly

but we should not avoid smiley slot if we think it's scum, just for the chance that we get ITA buffs tomorrow

all things considered smiley is claiming a 48% chance at killing any scum with the extra shots

How'd you do that math

On the topic of demoralization d2. I'll admit Witch dying was kind of crappy alongside the Jesus redflip. Because both events shuffled townreads across the game.

But the fact that we could bounce back and make another towncore so quickly (even before the lines/bunny shots) makes me wonder if we're being led by council.

Which means, we probably have a lower chance of there being some stupid deepwolf there screwing us lategame.. and so our last wolves or wolf is simply in the group outside of mogus/kirby/mud/anime. If that makes sense.

On the topic of demoralization d2. I'll admit Witch dying was kind of crappy alongside the Jesus redflip. Because both events shuffled townreads across the game.

But the fact that we could bounce back and make another towncore so quickly (even before the lines/bunny shots) makes me wonder if we're being led by council.

Which means, we probably have a lower chance of there being some stupid deepwolf there screwing us lategame.. and so our last wolves or wolf is simply in the group outside of mogus/kirby/mud/anime. If that makes sense.

[QUOTE=FM-Shocked Kirby Face;982656]I think that sunset/trumpet scum together is a hellworld I don't want to consider

shutting that down rn, I don't believe in it and I don't want to try[/QUOTE]

Hol up.

Trumpet - townread by Jesus
Sunset - townread (and saved) by Jesus in hood chat.

Originally Posted by FM-Shocked Kirby Face

I think that sunset/trumpet scum together is a hellworld I don't want to consider

shutting that down rn, I don't believe in it and I don't want to try

Hol up.

Trumpet - townread by Jesus
Sunset - townread (and saved) by Jesus in hood chat.