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Lumi · October 18th, 2021, 05:08 PM

goodgame guys! sorry i got inactive a bit i was so scared lol

that was so so toughie

oliver, frinckles, auwt i loved playing with yall the most, even tho i loved playing with everyone. its just yall are so nice.

did lag send my epic edits to deadchat like i asked..? i hope so, if so: im sorry i couldnt make one for you oberon, if you want i can but i was making them only for the mafia nks ;)

Lumi · October 16th, 2021, 10:39 AM

oliver and loldebite

Lumi · October 13th, 2021, 02:47 PM

[vote]auwt[/vote]

Lumi · October 13th, 2021, 02:41 PM

loldebite whats ur reads rn :sob:

Lumi · October 13th, 2021, 02:29 PM

i switched mike and oliver :D

Lumi · October 12th, 2021, 03:13 PM

i think i remember jmw saying it before

Lumi · October 12th, 2021, 02:07 PM

does paopan and marshmellow have partnery interactions giggle

Lumi · October 12th, 2021, 01:16 PM

[QUOTE=Gikkle;947548]The context for all this was my scum teams I proposed to loldebite [U]in the specific case that Paopan was town[/U]. I am not assuming Paopan is town. But if he WAS, these scum teams would be the ones that are possible,[/QUOTE]

whats the paopan!scum teams?

Lumi · October 12th, 2021, 01:00 PM

aaa hrrrrng i wanna see other peoples opinions and i wanna wait a bit more so we can talk things out more ;-(

Lumi · October 12th, 2021, 12:58 PM

[QUOTE=Lag;946775][CENTER][B][COLOR="#d0b798"][SIZE=6][class=rassilon]Once Upon a Town in the West[/class][/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]

[SIZE=5][B][COLOR="#d0b798"]Day 3[/COLOR][/B][/SIZE]

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[td][SIZE=1][COLOR="#696969"]RIP Frinckles. This one's for you, buddy. If you don't listen to it, then you're not paying respects to the dead.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/td]
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[table="width: 600, align:center"][tr][td][COLOR="#d0b798"][B][SIZE=4]Frinckles was found dead. He was riddled with bullets at close range. Frinckles was killed by the Bandits.

Frinckles was [COLOR="#859900"]TOWN[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR][/td][/tr][/table]
[COLOR="#FFFFFF"][B][SIZE=3]The [URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/49251-S-FM-334-(Ladder)-Once-Upon-a-Town-in-the-West-(Small-Town-Mafia)-(13P)?p=944964&viewfull=1#post944964"]original post[/URL] has also been updated.[/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]

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[td][MENTION=45982]oliverz144[/MENTION]
[MENTION=29377]Marshmallow Marshall[/MENTION]
[MENTION=12998]PQRnHack[/MENTION]
[MENTION=29012]Auwt[/MENTION]
[MENTION=45983]jmw[/MENTION]
[MENTION=30619]Light_Yagami[/MENTION]
[MENTION=45969]NotPaopan[/MENTION]
[MENTION=45595]Oberon[/MENTION]
[MENTION=45793]luona[/MENTION]
[MENTION=27614]Mike[/MENTION]
[MENTION=45931]Gikkle[/MENTION]
[MENTION=27307]Loldebite[/MENTION][/td]
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[B][COLOR="#859900"]Frinckles (Town Bodyguard)[/COLOR][/B][/td]
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[COLOR="#FFFFFF"][B][SIZE=3]Day 3 Ends at 4 PM CDT on Wednesday October 13th[/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]
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[SIZE=3][B][COLOR="#FFFFFF"]12 Players Remain. 13 votes in play. 7 votes to hammer.[/COLOR][/B][/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][mayor]45969,2[/mayor][/SIZE]
[COLOR="#1d1d1d"][L]7[/L][/COLOR]
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this today..?

Lumi · October 12th, 2021, 12:51 PM

how much times left?

Lumi · October 12th, 2021, 12:44 PM

[QUOTE=Auwt;947518]cqfd.[/QUOTE]
whats this mean..?

do u think theres 100% scum between paopan and gikkle..?

Lumi · October 12th, 2021, 12:30 PM

[QUOTE=Gikkle;947509][MENTION=45793]luona[/MENTION] [MENTION=30619]Light_Yagami[/MENTION] [MENTION=27614]Mike[/MENTION] please vote for Paopan.[/QUOTE]

convince me :cherrim:

Lumi · October 12th, 2021, 12:00 PM

[QUOTE=Auwt;947496]Are you confident the train on Paopan is good looking?[/QUOTE]

no

Lumi · October 12th, 2021, 11:55 AM

r u confident giggles scum :<

Lumi · October 11th, 2021, 07:35 PM

[QUOTE=Gikkle;947063]Luona didn't even do their job. That's the whole point. The fact scum killed Frinckles heavily implies mafia knew he wouldn't be protected.[/QUOTE]
i didnt do my job...
but my job was to protect marshmellow
so how does my job make me sus in light of the nk instead of making marshmellow sus..? [I]his[/I] job was to protect frinckles :wondering:

[QUOTE=Light_Yagami;947091]Yeah And BD Needs To Swap PPL Like No Tomorrow.. Never Miss A Swapping[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mike;947092]Correct louna do not location to others telling you who to swap but swap me MM light only one of us with someone else that you scum read. Don’t tell us who untill tomorrow.[/QUOTE]
ill keep these in mind for tonight!

[QUOTE=NotPaopan;947098]Plot twist: CD is Bandit 😪[/QUOTE]
im not bandit but nice try

[QUOTE=NotPaopan;947101]Gut feeling tells me nobody = self-bussed CD[/QUOTE]
whats this mean? lag told me i couldnt target myself when i tried before :<

[QUOTE=Gikkle;947112]I'd prefer they not be able to mess with anything. I don't trust them at all. I want the Sheriff, Vigilante, and Doctor to be able to do stuff without being messed with.[/QUOTE]
[B]i don't mind being roleblocked if its what everyone thinks is the right thing to do.[/B] ive said this before.

[QUOTE=Gikkle;947120]also why do you keep calling me giggle[/QUOTE]
can i call u giggle as well :wondering: its cute

-

my top scumreads today i think (theyre not in any order):
-oberon : i think his na choices were super weird and scummy.
-marshmellow : i think hes kinda suspicious, since we had the chain me x him x frinckles, and it was his goal to be on frinckles :mad: its too convienent!!

-

these are my im not sure if i trust them ones:
-pqrnhack : i still feel weird about him due to loldebite rbing him n1, but after the frinckles nk im not really sure anymore. that kill really just seemed like an attempt to make him look even worse because of how frinckles was his hardest attacker.
-gikkle : is weird but im not sure if he fits in with this team, maybe he fits with marshmellow..? i think its weird how he waited a bit before putting his vote on me, despite me being apparently the best lynch..?
-paopan : i dont think hes been all that helpful for the past few days, and i feel as if he could be teamie with some of my scumreads here ^.^

Lumi · October 11th, 2021, 05:19 PM

[QUOTE=jmw;947022]I can't see youtube embeds, they're all just blank red screens that don't play[/QUOTE]

same

Lumi · October 11th, 2021, 05:16 PM

[QUOTE=Gikkle;946949]Swap MM with anyone else, lol. Protect the Doctor.... Or the Sheriff... Or literally anyone you townread... You wouldn't have to worry about messing with Lookout/Sheriff actions too much since you'd be outing who you transported anyways.[/QUOTE]
what if i by accident redirect a kill onto an important pr :wondering:

[QUOTE=Gikkle;946956]I'm right now on the S!Luona train of thought, though.[/QUOTE]
then why isnt ur vote matching ur words....
engage with me, ask me anything :love:

Lumi · October 11th, 2021, 03:57 PM

[QUOTE=Oberon;946910][MENTION=45793]luona[/MENTION] who did you bus last night.[/QUOTE]
nobody

[QUOTE=Gikkle;946913]Luona - Hasn't actually been helpful at all and holstered their action, which is never the play..[/QUOTE]
what was the good play then bestie?
i didnt wanna swap oliver x someone i wanted to protect, because since i did it the first night, wouldn't that be predictable and easy to work around..?

Lumi · October 11th, 2021, 03:30 PM

oberon can u explain to me why u chose to jail ur specific choices for both nights, and what ur goal was with it.. im a bit confused

Lumi · October 11th, 2021, 02:37 PM

[QUOTE=Gikkle;946805]Excuse me? Why?[/QUOTE]

i thought maybe if i tried to do it to protect someone mafia would see thru it this time so i didnt wanna risk messing up actions

Lumi · October 11th, 2021, 02:19 PM

i didnt do anything last night

Lumi · October 9th, 2021, 07:37 PM

[QUOTE=PQRnHack;946573]WHat is the "obvious" plan? Explain![/QUOTE]

if frinckles was truly framing u,
wouldnt it be obvious hes scum once u flip town..?

so why would he do that..?

Lumi · October 9th, 2021, 07:00 PM

[QUOTE=PQRnHack;946570]Dont ask me ask YOURSELF! ANd how do you know know w hat LW is[/QUOTE]

whats lw im so confused pls ;(;(

Lumi · October 9th, 2021, 06:57 PM

[QUOTE=PQRnHack;946565]No, it is an error! I am getting framed here, WAKE UP![/QUOTE]
r u sure ur getting framed by a master planist? u keep ranting about it, but why would frinckles make his plan so obvious if he was scum?

Lumi · October 9th, 2021, 06:55 PM

whats lw

Lumi · October 9th, 2021, 06:52 PM

[QUOTE=Frinckles;946474]Okay how about we do it democratic like

[MENTION=45793]luona[/MENTION] [MENTION=30619]Light_Yagami[/MENTION] [MENTION=29377]Marshmallow Marshall[/MENTION] who you want to lynch?[/QUOTE]
pqrnhack

Lumi · October 9th, 2021, 02:01 PM

yall make this so complicated im so confused-

Lumi · October 9th, 2021, 11:22 AM

:magikarp::magikarp::magikarp:
canadian thanksgivings this weekend bbys xx

[QUOTE=Mike;946101]Awut and mayor keep voteing togather.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mike;946104]so does JMW and MM but I am town reading JMW[/QUOTE]
ty for saying this, i didnt notice originally :o

jmw and gikkles back & forth seems a bit weird to me, one of them might be scum but i cant tell which..
jmw seems bad for what i think looks like omgus and a bit over reactionary coming from him, but there was a post from him
[QUOTE=jmw;946139]Lynching scum is powerful no matter how weak or strong their role is...[/QUOTE]
this post, which i liked.

[QUOTE=oliverz144;946141][vote]auwt[/vote]
he just follows paopan although he is the "main scum read" and "wouldnt mind a paopan train"[/QUOTE]
like this

[QUOTE=Loldebite;946170]Sorry folks, i've been busy last night and woke up late today out of sheer lazyness. I blocked PQR because he was a risk-free block, having no night ability. Felt he was the most likely scum to act for the same reason, too and his reckless pushing on gikkle/jmw was weird. I believe now that he was bussing. I have not caught up yet, i wrote that after reading page 20. I also apologise because i wont be available from 5AM CDT to about 10AM CDT because i am playing in a chess tournament... I should have time to read everything and post more untill i go, tho[/QUOTE]
i also like this, the reasonings seem good imo.

i uhh, dont wanna quote the whole thing since its long, but idk how to link to the post specifically so im just gonna quote the start only and assume yall know the post im talking about (-:
[QUOTE=NotPaopan;946198][SIZE=5][B][COLOR="#00FF00"]ANNOUNCEMENT: [/COLOR][COLOR="#EE82EE"]LORD MAYOR PAOPAN SPEAKING!! [/COLOR][/B][/SIZE]
[SIZE=4][B][COLOR="#00FFFF"]DAY 2 FIELD REPORT 卐 [/COLOR][/B][/SIZE][/QUOTE]
i don't like how in the readslist in this post, theres so little green, yet his actions dont line up with how somebody with a "so little greenslist" would be acting imo
because of the so many null/unsure reads, i feel like he should be trying to interact with people more, so i feel as if hes not making an attempt to solve.

i think this is the best move for today
[VOTE]pqrnhack[/VOTE]
i think if he flips scum, ill be looking at paopan next because his defense of pqrnhack :D

Lumi · October 8th, 2021, 07:02 PM

[QUOTE=Frinckles;946080]You would be a prime candidate to kill because you keep MM alive and he keeps me alive, right?

I didn't go on you because you'd be the obvious choice to protect. You almost seem surprised. :P[/QUOTE]
ah yeah yeah
i am surprised tbh

Lumi · October 8th, 2021, 06:59 PM

[QUOTE=Mike;945877]How the hell did you know my check and result?

Yes i checked like and he is TOWN well that was the feedback i got[/QUOTE]
i forgot to add this in my og catchup post,
but i agree that its weird how auwt knew what u would do and ur result.

Lumi · October 8th, 2021, 06:52 PM

[QUOTE=jmw;945972]PQRnHack said they invited us for a reason but their plan failed because PaoPan didn't make it (I thought PaoPan chose to decline, but Mike rightly pointed out that probably isn't possible and he just got jailed).
PQR basically spent the entirety of the chat very paranoid that Mike and I were both scum and that were were trying to fool them, going to kill them, etc. I obviously can't copy paste it here but it seems very genuine and not fakeable, so I think PQR's town. I talked a little bit about how Frinckle's vote on Pao at the last second is unaligned so they can't be W/W, Mike agreed it was a good look but didn't think it was 100% never aligned. I went to sleep afterward and Mike posted some of their reads in that chat, but other than that there wasn't anything much.[/QUOTE]
ty for telling
how indepth did yall talk about frinckles vote?
and [B]MIKE[/B], what made you think it wasn't 100% never aligned?

[QUOTE=Gikkle;945976]...

This is, of course, assuming scum were actively attempting to get a hammer in this world. The only reason I can think of that they wouldn't be is if Oberon is scum, but Oberon did not kill this hypothetical T!Paopan, so it is unlikely he is scum in this scenario.

A T/T Paopan/Me world relies on scum caring more about their appearances than getting a kill, so it depends which players are in the scum team, really.

This post is just to prove it's possible for me and Paopan to be T/T based on wagonomics. This isn't meant to be an in depth VCA. As for my own opinion, I find this whole scenario I suggested unlikely, as I think scum would have been able to justify voting out Paopan or me fairly easily, just based on the argument "I don't trust Oberon" or something like that. So them caring about their appearances in this case would require, most likely, a cowardly (for lack of a better word) scum team.[/QUOTE]
-.- i dont like how you wrote out a big big long post and then said u find it unlikely, it seems contradictory and a bit scummy

[QUOTE=Frinckles;946050]Luona was the prime candidate to be killed by Mafia and yet she wasn't. Likely because loldebite stopped the kill.[/QUOTE]
how am i a prime candidate..? and if im such a prime candidate why didnt u go on me..? im confused by ur thoughts a tiny bit :3

Lumi · October 8th, 2021, 04:15 PM

what happened in the card sharp chat last night? any juicy tea?

:pikachu::pikachu::pikachu::pikachu::pikachu:

Lumi · October 8th, 2021, 02:38 PM

[QUOTE=Mike;945878]who did you bus?[/QUOTE]
i did marshmellow and oliver

Lumi · October 8th, 2021, 02:36 PM

im busy making cake rn aaa

Lumi · October 7th, 2021, 01:50 PM

wait does it force oberon to execute or is he just deciding hes gonna execute no matter what

Lumi · October 7th, 2021, 01:46 PM

how much time is left

Lumi · October 7th, 2021, 01:44 PM

[QUOTE=Frinckles;945792]Oh. I can be healed. [MENTION=29377]Marshmallow Marshall[/MENTION] you permaheal me. [MENTION=45793]luona[/MENTION] you swap MM with someone.[/QUOTE]
okie

Lumi · October 7th, 2021, 01:36 PM

[QUOTE=Frinckles;945779][MENTION=45793]luona[/MENTION] also, while I have your attention I don't want to lynch you anymore and will vote whoever you like as long as you promise to switch me with someone else at night. And if I die anyway, I want everyone in this game to lynch you.[/QUOTE]
huh?
i dont wanna force u to vote anybody so u should vote whoever u want

if u rlly want me to i can switch u with someone else.. i rlly wanted to not mess up other peoples stuff tho.. will it be helpful if i claim who i switch u with at start of next day?

Lumi · October 7th, 2021, 01:34 PM

:cherrim::cherrim::cherrim::cherrim::cherrim:

Lumi · October 7th, 2021, 01:24 PM

how do i do those funny picture things frinckles

Lumi · October 7th, 2021, 01:19 PM

[QUOTE=Frinckles;945748]What do you want to do?[/QUOTE]
i like my vote on pqrnhack i think

[QUOTE=Loldebite;945750]Why do you oppose the gikkle lynch so much, since he's not one of your TRs ?
I agree with you otherwise
[vote]NotPaopan[/vote]
Placing this to force him to talk again.[/QUOTE]
cuz i wanted to vote for who i thinks scummiest
and i think in that way pqrnhack > gikkle

Lumi · October 7th, 2021, 01:14 PM

[QUOTE=Auwt;945736]Light, Mike and luona your votes will likely not happen so you know.
Don't forget there are open ones though, and they are quite split, might eventually be alignment indicative up to some extend.[/QUOTE]

o i by accident missed this post..?

should i move my vote? i liked my vote

Lumi · October 7th, 2021, 01:09 PM

[QUOTE=Loldebite;945700]Please do develop those. Is the green tier really just "i dont see anything bad" or is it actually "i see good stuff" ?[/QUOTE]
i think both
they dont give me bad vibes, i like some of their posts and find them agreeable.

its much confusing for me rn :sad: ill reread during nightphase

[QUOTE=jmw;945717]Haven't had a chance to go back on the PQR posts I skimmed, I plan on doing that during the bus ride home before EoD, not too concerned with that slot at the moment though.
...
When I'm at my computer again I can flesh out my read on loldebite, but I've liked their recent replies to me and not liking my Gikkle ping makes sense (for context, Gikkle and I share the same homesite and have played many games there) so I'd probably lean slightly town GTH.[/QUOTE]
ill be excitedly waiting for them (:

[QUOTE=jmw;945717]I'd probably lose a fight lol. I guess I'd be interested to hear more about your thoughts on the current lynch wagons that could reasonably reach 8 votes before EoD? (Paopan, Gikkle, etc)[/QUOTE]
are u asking me my thoughts on them or their wagon..?
[U]paopan -[/U] i wouldn't mind a paopan lynch too much, i didn't like how originally he wasn't putting in alot of effort even though he has (i think..?) a very late game pactful role. seems important, and i knew if i had that i would go super hard and try my best to not let down everyone else. his recent stuff where he had put effort was a bit better, but not by too much maybe.
even though i "wouldn't mind a paopan lynch too much" i do have a big hesitancy with it; he was a big focus for alot of the day, which is something i feel like normally scum wouldn't have. i feel like hes either scum whos given up or weak town whos getting hyperfocused on.. which is more likely? i wouldn't be surprised in any scenario but maybe the town scenario is a bit more likely..? im not sure.. i think somebodies prob taking advantage of this situation but idk who IERJHFJJ
[U]gikkle -[/U] i don't want a gikkle lynch at all, i think theres better people to be picking off than him.
i dont know what to think of his wagon specifically

Lumi · October 7th, 2021, 12:49 PM

[QUOTE=Frinckles;945693]I'm glad you're having fun. c: Mafia can't be interesting if people don't lie or push. Sure, you could choose not to use your ability but I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish by telling me that. Not only could you simply be lying (as either faction), but the fact that your ability exists in the current gamestate (even if you were town) means that scum has plausible deniability for any mechanical outcome at night. Gikkle actually presents a similar problem because if you're lynched today, a Scum!Gikkle could grab your role. If you're legitimately confused, you have a bit of time to catch up or ask me anything you'd like. I don't know if your train has any momentum anyway.[/QUOTE]
im legit so confused how to read things that happen here, and i think me being this active is killing my motivation
i.. dont know what to do aa

do you think my original jmw sus was stupid..? (where i was susing him based on his interactions with mike)
my read on jmw keeps going flippy floppy and i really want a good read on him and i want help with that.

Lumi · October 7th, 2021, 12:22 PM

[QUOTE=jmw;945531][SPOILER=tired reads]oliverz144 - null. Have not seen enough posts from the guy to really make a read. Gun to head, I'd say town, but only because what he's posted so far has been okay and in line with what I've seen of him before, the lynch mayor comment doesn't seem that odd to me.
Marshmallow Marshall - null leaning town. This slot has big potential for deepwolf but almost all of the posts from this slot I have really liked. Easy townread if my gut didn't say I should be more careful with evaluating them.
PQRnHack - Lean town, liked the way they reacted to my vote (wasn't overly defensive or aggressive, matched the tone they had been giving me thus far in the game), could still be scum but this early on I'm okay giving them townpoints for a fairly relaxed reaction like that. [COLOR="#40E0D0"]Gikkle push isn't great, and their scumread on me is weird but I skimmed that part of the thread so I'll have to go back on it?[/COLOR]
Auwt - talked a little bit about my thoughts on this slot above if you wanna give that a read. Scumlean less for being actively scummy and more for just, not really being active and solving a bunch? Bad way to put it but it's 1 AM and I've got an exam tomorrow. My read on Frinckles is probably stronger than the one on this slot actually.
Light_Yagami - behavior in thread is weird, seemingly defeatist but not at the same time is a little scummy, and the sheriff read is just bad, but probably not scummy because they refuse to back down from it. I'd imagine scum Light would back down from that sheriff read when challenged so much on it. Would probably lean town, I can acknowledge that the behavior is weird, yet to see a scum case on this slot and I'm slightly biased because the threadstate seems to be shifting toward what seems like a low hanging fruit lynch and I don't see anyone trying to stop it.
NotPaopan - null, just roleplaying. This slot's vote is pretty impactful so if I was fully awake and analyzing I would look there, but I'm not so very unfortunate. Even gun to head I don't think I can think of anything that made me lean scum or town at all on this slot.
Frinckles - leaning scum. Seems very low impact, even more so than Auwt. Doesn't feel like they want to contribute much.
Oberon - Leaning town. Liked their retracted vote, gut says town, they don't seem to mind that I've been using them as an unvote button as I didn't know you could unvote on this forum (thanks for the heads up on how to do that by the way MM).
luona - [COLOR="#EE82EE"]null. I don't have many interactions with this slot, they pushed me and I responded aggressively, and they backed down which I found pretty surprising. [/COLOR]As for whether that's a townie or scummy thing I don't really know. Haven't hated anything I've seen from the slot and entrance was good so GTH I'd say town.
Mike - townlean, this slot probably has the hardest thought process for me to follow after Light, but there's been quite the attempt to solve from this slot and I'd say it seems genuine enough. When I first skimmed this thread I remember not liking him, but going back I can't remember why, and I don't feel that way anymore so for now I'm not too worried leaving him in townreads.
Gikkle - null, gun to head town. I know Gikkle is good enough at this game that I probably shouldn't bother trying to read him D1, he seemed pretty uncaring as to the push on him which is a good look and I feel the same way on the game being hard to solve from a town perspective (since I'm town, duh).
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]Loldebite - null. The slot doesn't like me, but hasn't said much about why other than that they didn't like my posts. Not much to go off of there. Can't think of anything memorable from them other than they plan on blocking me, which is sad but fine for tonight I guess.[/COLOR][/SPOILER]
Sorry they're not sorted. If anyone cares at all about my thought processes I've typed the above which is a bit about each player off of the top of my head, poorly formatted as I'm very tired[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#40E0D0"]did you ever come back to this..? im curious what ur results from it were. i find it weird how hes a townread but u mentioned a few things u dont like from him after it, how did those things affect this read?[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#EE82EE"]if u wanna fight, or have any questions for me, lmk :D[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#FFFF00"]i would like to see u develop this read more if u can.[/COLOR]

[QUOTE=Auwt;945551]1st hand : Paopan, Mike, jmw, Oberon, oliver.
2nd hand : MM, luonia, Gikkle, Loldebite, Light
last resort : PQR, Frinckles

That's the pool I'm recommending.[/QUOTE]
is the 1st hand ur stronger scumreads or..?
[B]AUWT[/B] im kinda curious what made you think of these specific groups.

[QUOTE=oliverz144;945553]Town lean:
jmw;mm;porn;luona
null:
oberon;frinckles;mike; gikkle
scum lean:
auwt; paopan; ly; lolbit[/QUOTE]
[B]OLIVER[/B] have u explained any of this yet?
im especially curious about ur read on me ngl. you pinged me asking for reads, and i didnt give them, so what made me a townread instead of a scumread?

[QUOTE=Frinckles;945620]I've gone through Luona's ISO and didn't like it.[/QUOTE]
1. ily i love being sused it makes the game so much more interesting!!
2. what didnt u like about it?

[QUOTE=Frinckles;945621]If you guys want to deal with a BD the entire game, feel free but ask yourself how pro-town the role is. Then weigh how much you like Luona's ISO. In the worse case event, a Town!Luona is stopped from accidently goofing with our night actions. I considered whether Scum!Gikkle would just grab the role and pick up from there but I honestly don't scumread him in his ISO and in the event that we may not even have a lynch today, he's hardly a threat even if you do scumread him.[/QUOTE]
am i not allowed to hold back from my action?

[QUOTE=Frinckles;945624]Light & Luona are definitely pinging me.[/QUOTE]
talk to me

[QUOTE=Gikkle;945660]I wouldn't be against a Luona wagon. At first they seemed townie, but at a certain point a lot of their posts seemed rather performative and done not really to solve, but just to appear like they are solving [B](like a bunch of questions asked in a single post)[/B]

So I wouldn't be against shooting there.[/QUOTE]
this parts just my general style as any alignment, i can get lost kinda easily.
if u look tho, the people i barely interact with would be considered townreads ig. tho if u want specific thoughts rn:

i have a bit trouble typing out a full on reads list right now... im so confused
so ill rank it like
[COLOR="#00FF00"]tier i dont see anything wrong with them love their posts - marshmellow dog, auwt (Maybe?)[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#FFD700"]tier i dont townread them per se but they arent a good lynch for today - gikkle, (maybe loldebite and jmw, but im not too confident in adding those on)[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#FF8C00"]tier everyone i didnt name[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#FF0000"]tier scumreads - pqrnhack[/COLOR]
tho come ask a question about it.. i rlly wanna develop these reads into something i like more

Lumi · October 6th, 2021, 05:31 PM

if we have to, i dont mind consolidating on oberon

Lumi · October 6th, 2021, 05:18 PM

[QUOTE=jmw;945371]How does me saying I don't understand Mike's thought process equate shading him?
I explained what his thought process is to me (as I did with Light's in the same post) and why that's making it harder for me to interact with and read these players.
Not once in that post did I say anything about Mike being scummy, and the worst thing I've said about Mike in that post is that he seems to have a bias (which isn't exclusive to scum).[/QUOTE]
you continually asking him questions seemed like u thought he was scummy sorry :-(
i thought if someone went into a deep convo with someone it meant that one of them suses the other..? is that not it?

[QUOTE=PQRnHack;945372][MENTION=45793]luona[/MENTION] why you voting me? I am town CS, and it's a relatively important mason-like role. But I guess lynching "important" roles is today's favorite huh? Mayor Jailor Vet on the menu too huh? This save really messes with people's minds. Im gonna need a few more drinks here, jeez.[/QUOTE]
show how ur town then...
anyone can say theyre town, but u just feel weird to me iuerhfd
i dont rlly townread you so i liked the vote on you the most when i was looking at the votes.

[QUOTE=PQRnHack;945373]That's what everyone says of me. It's D1, which I hate. I actually do have some ideas but im gonna withhold for the time being.[/QUOTE]
gib ur thoughts..
itll be helpful i swear!

[QUOTE=NotPaopan;945383]Good Day my fellow people. It is I, your Lord Mayor Paopan... that concludes that I have no conclusion as of yet. :sick:[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NotPaopan;945386]I have been collecting information from my intelligence service. I won't disclose the reads and info I have received.

Not that I have been hiding information. I just don't want to make a conclusion hastely.[/QUOTE]
whats helpful about not disclosing the reads you have in your opinion..? :sad: i thought having reads is helpful when others can help you better them?

[QUOTE=jmw;945394]We're giving away town's greatest weapon, the lynch, and all wagonomics/voting info in exchange for some info on Oberon based on whoever he executes. Not a good trade.
Personally not scared of being jailed I just don't think no lynch for jailor execute is ever worth it in this setup.

I like this vote[/QUOTE]
i.. had thoughts about this... but i forgot them.. i agree with the first part of this tho.

[QUOTE=PQRnHack;945411]Gikkle makes no sense to me. We control Vigi~jmw kill yet they are wolfy but could be town. Either Gikkle is a town who has no clue or ... my vote is parked here for now.[/QUOTE]
can u help me, im confused what ur saying here... "we control vigi~jmw kill" when did gikkle say something like this..? i dont remember.

[QUOTE=Loldebite;945418]I think i should only block CD if i am more trusted,[/QUOTE]
why are u worried about how trusted u r..? if u wanna do a rb go for it imo, i trust if ur town ull make a good decision.

[QUOTE=Oberon;945426]Skip day is not my cup of tea. We need to lynch someone. I vote we lynch someone with low post count if no other lynch can go through.

If no other lynch can be arranged, I’m perfectly happy to vote for Light_Yagami or Gikkle.[/QUOTE]
lynching someone with low post count feels a bit mean imo.

[QUOTE=PQRnHack;945437]I am shocked that no one else is voting Gikkle. Am I wrong or what?
I cannot see my vote changing today (next 26 hrs) unless some crazy new revelation occurs.[/QUOTE]
closer to the start of this phase, i had a slight townread on gikkle, but then he got a bit more inactive and that died down.
he still isn't my preferred lynch though.

[QUOTE=Gikkle;945443]Having trouble getting into the swing of things this game. Not really confident in anyone one way or the other, and that's concerning to me honestly. Everyone just seems scummy to me in there own way...

For the sake of just orienting myself, Imma make a reads list. Don't ask for explanations, this is a very selfish reads list just to get my head in the game. I'm not actually very confident in any of this, so this will likely change dramatically as I get into the groove.

Town-

Mike
Marshmallow Marshall
Loldebite

Light Town-

oliverz
PQRNHack
Light_Yagami

Could go either way-
Jmw
Auwt
NotPaopan

Light Scum -

Luona
Frinckles

Scum-

Oberon[/QUOTE]
ccan i ask a weird question...

[QUOTE=oliverz144;945470][MENTION=45793]luona[/MENTION] ? Hello?
you are very quiet, could you give us some reads?[/QUOTE]
im sorry, ive been busy all day and im kinda tired.
is there anyone specific u wanna know my reads on?

[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;945480]I don't see anything wrong with what you quoted tbh, [COLOR="#40E0D0"]except maybe it's a little weak[/COLOR] - but so are literally all other reads on early D1, so it's not scummy. [COLOR="#EE82EE"]Also, I don't get how "don't really like mike off of a skim" can be better than... anything, it's an unbacked statement lol. Plus, why would a better reasoning be indicative of scum shading a partner (so basically bussing)?[/COLOR] I am unimpressed here, and am sticking to my read on jmw. You do seem to be actually trying, though, [COLOR="#40E0D0"]albeit you look a little confused,[/COLOR] so I don't think you're scum for it :P.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR="#40E0D0"]making me cry wtf[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#EE82EE"]yeah its a weak reason, but from what i understand.. his original vote was pure random, so this seemed to me like a reason a bit above pure random?[/COLOR]

Lumi · October 5th, 2021, 05:57 PM

[QUOTE=Mike;945350]PQRnHack ( I have no idea what to make of this guy. Feels like he is posting just to post nothing usefull)
Luona ( Same as PQRnHack but is Luona is New I may understand Do not know how new Luona is)[/QUOTE]
how am i doing nothing useful?

[QUOTE=Mike;945363]Why Luona what have Luona done that made you town read Him or Her[/QUOTE]
her

Lumi · October 5th, 2021, 05:54 PM

[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;945344][class=fire]Maaaybe :P[/class][/QUOTE]
if i figure out how to do this cool text thingy can i get a red name as well : o

[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;945344]Yea I'm not sure I understand what you mean about jmw.
The Oliver part is clear, though, and I agree with it; see #333 and #335 for Oliver's replies. His approach is weird, and the part about lynching the mayor because he's the mayor makes little sense. Given that he's from another site, though, I'm trying to be careful not to mistake cultural differences for scumtells.[/QUOTE]
ill be honest, i think i was mixing up who posted something but i dont wanna go searching for it, but i've found other reasons!
-
this site is hell for isoing ;-;
alot of jmws earlier postings are fluffy and honestly forgettable,
[QUOTE=jmw;945241]If PQR flips scum MM scum odds increase

Don't really like Mike off of a skim. Gikkle feels meh, hard to read him on D1 but it feels like he's playing a bit differently on purpose because this is offsite which doesn't make meta reading very helpful[/QUOTE]
this is what sticks out alot though, because of how... i dont really understand any of the reads in this post..?
on surface level, they look good, but i don't see him trying to develop and solve you/pqrnhack much. he did later do "takebacksies" from the you/pqrnhack read... but i think its still valuable to keep how weird the thought was in the first place in consideration.
"don't really like mike off of a skim" seems like much better reasoning than his original vote on oberon. reads like it could be scum subtly shading a partner.

[QUOTE=jmw;945242]Townlean LY for this.
I think scum LY either disables the activity filter or closes the tab instead of posting about leaving the tab open and leaving it open.
If LY was inexperienced I would say this is scummy (due to caring so much about appearances) but from what I've seen it seems like this is not LY's first rodeo (ha) so I think this is more townie than not[/QUOTE]
mentioned before, this is an awful reason to townread someone.

then look deeper, hes questioning mike.. but never places a vote on him? it looks like hes highly suspicious of mike, so this doesn't really look like hes doing it all in good faith.

[QUOTE=jmw;945293]My vote on Obron is from RVS. I don't feel like I need to remove it yet and haven't felt like voting anyone else yet so it stays.
I feel like most of my posts have been straightforward except for the W/W PQrn and MM read. Which my initial thought behind was "If PQrn is scum, this looks like an easy excuse to switch your vote off of a teammate" but after sleeping on it, that read is bad because it was basically still RVS and PQrn could have swapped off of a teammate for any reason, plus there's no guarantee PQrn was voting a teammate anyway.
It's also weird to frame my townlean on light as a "weak excuse", seems like a lot of shading, but I can understand if you disagree. While reading up I did see the "sheriff confirmed town" post which is the only one I'd think so far to be scummy in any way. Don't know if it's enough to change my initial impression yet, we'll see.[/QUOTE]
I don't see him interacting with oberon much, so this really just reads like he wants to keep a vote, but doesn't wanna put his neck out there. keeping an easy vote, i suppose is what it is.

[QUOTE=jmw;945333]Why is everyone here so hard to read

MM is being very reasonable, I get the sense that nothing they've done so far is out of a normal wolfrange but I've liked their posts the most out of anyone's opening on a re-read
Gikkle's also not done anything that he couldn't do as both alignments yet, but I like his sanity check on the (frankly not so good) read I made last night.
[B]Mike and Light's reasonings are very odd to me,[/B] I can't understand Light's reasonings behind townreading the sheriff and don't think I'm going to get anywhere on that topic at all.
Mike seems to have a ToS player point of view with regards to roles that seems to come into his posts as a bias toward those roles and against anyone who targets those roles? (myself)

PQR and Oliver seem similar to the only game I've played with them, where they were both town
And as weird as it is, I like Oberon quickly backing down off of Oliver. Think that's a good look.[/QUOTE]
hes. just. continually. shading. mike. without. putting. an. actual. vote. on. him.

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