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Lets get other opinions on this because your opinion is so out of reality it's amusing. [MENTION=29377]Marshmallow Marshall[/MENTION]

Lets get other opinions on this because your opinion is so out of reality it's amusing. @Marshmallow Marshall

You completley ignored all my other reasons and legit said over and over you scumread ozy because of his list. I proved that was incorrect, not my fault you didn't read half the shit i wrote

You completley ignored all my other reasons and legit said over and over you scumread ozy because of his list. I proved that was incorrect, not my fault you didn't read half the shit i wrote

[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;841918]Because we want to discuss lol


Blink, you did cause some skimming, but you didn't ACTUALLY detail your cases, you simply engaged in long arguments over arguments that were themselves over another argument. It made it look BIG, but it was in fact very very thin, just like my analysis of the case walltext you posted yourself showed.[/QUOTE]
I detailed my cased you didnt even read half the shit i wrote. It wasnt thin at all i head countless reasons, you analysis of my waltext was sheer bullshit which i proved again with another wall post. Your perception of this game is totally wrong because you keep saying shit that still isnt true.

Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

Because we want to discuss lol


Blink, you did cause some skimming, but you didn't ACTUALLY detail your cases, you simply engaged in long arguments over arguments that were themselves over another argument. It made it look BIG, but it was in fact very very thin, just like my analysis of the case walltext you posted yourself showed.

I detailed my cased you didnt even read half the shit i wrote. It wasnt thin at all i head countless reasons, you analysis of my waltext was sheer bullshit which i proved again with another wall post. Your perception of this game is totally wrong because you keep saying shit that still isnt true.

I posted a lot of content to flood the thread and make town want to just scroll through. I also seen first hand how town aligned players didnt even read some of the posts i wrote. Like it was all just ignored/forgotten/skimmed over. This game my massive amount of posting was p anti town imo because of that. I believe Mag and Marsh missed entire posts that i made about why i'm reading players certain ways.

MU championships have great examples of post count games.

I posted a lot of content to flood the thread and make town want to just scroll through. I also seen first hand how town aligned players didnt even read some of the posts i wrote. Like it was all just ignored/forgotten/skimmed over. This game my massive amount of posting was p anti town imo because of that. I believe Mag and Marsh missed entire posts that i made about why i'm reading players certain ways.

MU championships have great examples of post count games.

I agree with [MENTION=6868]rumox[/MENTION]. Fuck flipless! Bring on the post restrictions! Min//Max lifted upon 1 hour to EOD.

I agree with @rumox . Fuck flipless! Bring on the post restrictions! Min//Max lifted upon 1 hour to EOD.

MM you monster, where is the nice litte marshmellow muffin that used to be cute as a button?

This marshmeaningless melonhead is being a turd nugget.

MM you monster, where is the nice litte marshmellow muffin that used to be cute as a button?

This marshmeaningless melonhead is being a turd nugget.

Deff one of my more favorite games

Deff one of my more favorite games

[QUOTE=Magoroth;841625]Mm, I’ll reread d1 then[/QUOTE]

I've read every post twice.

The games def a good read in retrospect.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Mm, I’ll reread d1 then

I've read every post twice.

The games def a good read in retrospect.

[QUOTE=Magoroth;841622]Don’t take any of this as me disparaging your play. You played well. I think your strongest points are in getting people to trust you and follow you; you showed that d2 when you defused our argument.[/QUOTE]

I am not taking it like that dont worry lol.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Don’t take any of this as me disparaging your play. You played well. I think your strongest points are in getting people to trust you and follow you; you showed that d2 when you defused our argument.

I am not taking it like that dont worry lol.

[QUOTE=Magoroth;841621]You weren’t really pointing fingers much d1 except for when you said Efe was 100% scum, and even then you did it after it was p clear Efe would be lynched anyways.
also the few pushes you made d1 were really carefully worded almost as if you wanted people to know you were scumreadjng Ozy but were afraid to push the lynch

now, there’s also some gut involved here that I can’t explain, but I thought your tone was really off in a way I still can’t quire explain[/QUOTE]

Well i totally disagree with your assessment of my play Day 1. Because im telling you how i was playing it lol. I wanted Ozy day 1 and I was activley pushing ozy with conviction and intent to lynch.

And i came into the thread 30 minutes before EOD and pulled votes off Huey and directed them onto Efe, i think you may need to re read the game because you are misrepresenting the way things went down lol

Originally Posted by Magoroth

You weren’t really pointing fingers much d1 except for when you said Efe was 100% scum, and even then you did it after it was p clear Efe would be lynched anyways.
also the few pushes you made d1 were really carefully worded almost as if you wanted people to know you were scumreadjng Ozy but were afraid to push the lynch

now, there’s also some gut involved here that I can’t explain, but I thought your tone was really off in a way I still can’t quire explain

Well i totally disagree with your assessment of my play Day 1. Because im telling you how i was playing it lol. I wanted Ozy day 1 and I was activley pushing ozy with conviction and intent to lynch.

And i came into the thread 30 minutes before EOD and pulled votes off Huey and directed them onto Efe, i think you may need to re read the game because you are misrepresenting the way things went down lol

Ohhhh before i forget [MENTION=29730]Magoroth[/MENTION] ehat made you feel i was being cautious?

I can honestly say i was playing 100% opposite of cautious here lol

Ohhhh before i forget @Magoroth ehat made you feel i was being cautious?

I can honestly say i was playing 100% opposite of cautious here lol

[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;841599]blink, the Ozy lynch was such an horror lol, it's impossible that you would have done the same as town. Maybe you would have scumread him, but you would have stopped at some point. [I]And you wouldn't have called me a lover...[/I][/QUOTE]

Twas not a horror you weren't even caught up with reading i feel you nissed so many posts lol. I never stop as town and sometimes im willing to risk ny life to prove it. I still stand by my reasoning for calling you a lover here. Yes i know ozy couldn't be scum so saying you were scum aligned love was completely fabrication for my agenda. But im telling you MM i 100% thought you were ozys lover there. I dont kno whho the neutrals are, i could almost smell your desperation on not seeing ozy lynched. I always think crazy shit when im town, this wasn't so crazy for me to believe due to the way you were acting EOD. I agree that Ozy was obviously miss lynched lol hutnyou skipped over so many of my posts explaining other reasons he was scum that logically mase some sense lol. I play scum similar to distorted, i push players with logical reasons that actually make some sense. Yes out in the open all game when normally i just play it safe and lay a lot lower lol

Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

blink, the Ozy lynch was such an horror lol, it's impossible that you would have done the same as town. Maybe you would have scumread him, but you would have stopped at some point. And you wouldn't have called me a lover...

Twas not a horror you weren't even caught up with reading i feel you nissed so many posts lol. I never stop as town and sometimes im willing to risk ny life to prove it. I still stand by my reasoning for calling you a lover here. Yes i know ozy couldn't be scum so saying you were scum aligned love was completely fabrication for my agenda. But im telling you MM i 100% thought you were ozys lover there. I dont kno whho the neutrals are, i could almost smell your desperation on not seeing ozy lynched. I always think crazy shit when im town, this wasn't so crazy for me to believe due to the way you were acting EOD. I agree that Ozy was obviously miss lynched lol hutnyou skipped over so many of my posts explaining other reasons he was scum that logically mase some sense lol. I play scum similar to distorted, i push players with logical reasons that actually make some sense. Yes out in the open all game when normally i just play it safe and lay a lot lower lol

[QUOTE=OzyWho;841606]Top4 highest S-FM post count huh. Neat!
More than half of posts were made by top 4 posters?
:thinking:

We REALLY should put up a max post count tbh.

Pages and pages and pages of blink and mag.. well.. spamming tbh... all of which can easily be skipped and nothing would be lost.

Tbh I don't personally mind when there's 500 posts of nonsense in the a row. The problem is when it demotivates other players to contribute.[/QUOTE]

Yeah i agree ozy mag and i were just spamming.

A scum and a neutral just flooding the thread with nonsense makes the game less enjoyable for others. If i do play again it will probably only be a game with post restrictions. There were so many posts that prob were not even read lol

Originally Posted by OzyWho

Top4 highest S-FM post count huh. Neat!
More than half of posts were made by top 4 posters?


We REALLY should put up a max post count tbh.

Pages and pages and pages of blink and mag.. well.. spamming tbh... all of which can easily be skipped and nothing would be lost.

Tbh I don't personally mind when there's 500 posts of nonsense in the a row. The problem is when it demotivates other players to contribute.

Yeah i agree ozy mag and i were just spamming.

A scum and a neutral just flooding the thread with nonsense makes the game less enjoyable for others. If i do play again it will probably only be a game with post restrictions. There were so many posts that prob were not even read lol

[QUOTE=OzyWho;841607]I was the only scummy player. :blink1:[/QUOTE]
Haha ozy you were also towny at time i hust neber mentioned it because it wasn't part of my agenda. There were many arguments that i could have pushed as to why you are town lol

Originally Posted by OzyWho

I was the only scummy player.

Haha ozy you were also towny at time i hust neber mentioned it because it wasn't part of my agenda. There were many arguments that i could have pushed as to why you are town lol

[QUOTE=Magoroth;841601]Your reasons for lynching Ozy, while I don’t agree with them, were fair. You changing your mind about me and MM and preferring any other lynch to Huey’s without even stating it was scummy, however. I just missed your reasons as I mostly skipped d1.

i don’t agree in that this was your towngame, I usually townread you after a while. J scumread you this game and meta was definitely involved. You didn’t really push any lynches d1 and buddied me and aamirus[/QUOTE]

It made sense to me at the time with MM's behavior you and MM missed probably half of my posts in the thread because you guys keep saying things that factually are not true lol. I explained why i thought MM could be lover with ozy, yes i KNOW ozy is not red. But if im pushing a RED ozy and i explain that i think MM is in love with him because MM's behavior EOD 2 wasn't towny IMO. That makes The guy im pushing Ozy "the scum". mm, the guy desperately trying to save ozy, because townys generally don't behave in the manor MM did. And Mag the guy who doesn't care about anything else in the world other then MM all scum aligned there lol.

To say i didn't push any lynches D1 is also factually incorrect. I tried pushing an ozy lynch the monent I entered the game. I hadnto eventually give up on that because lterally almost every other player town read him lol. Then I literally came in EOD and pushed an Efe lynch over huey because of Efes behavior. I literally was the reason that Efe was lynched over huey there. I pushed hard for Efe to be lynched over huey.

Now you actually have my town meta incorrect here aswell. If i'm pretty surr someone is town, which i do get strong townreads in day 1 every game i play i buddy them. MM can tell you I always buddy people i townread in every town game i play. You are correct in saying i buddied you and aanirus day 1. You forgot that i also buddied MM and Huey. And i buddied aamirus the strongest and most consistantly.

I literally didn't prefer any other lynch to huey on day 2. I was 100% only ever ltnching ozy there 100%. You are legit still trying to scum paint me POST GAME LOL. Here's the time where i can actually be honest lol.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Your reasons for lynching Ozy, while I don’t agree with them, were fair. You changing your mind about me and MM and preferring any other lynch to Huey’s without even stating it was scummy, however. I just missed your reasons as I mostly skipped d1.

i don’t agree in that this was your towngame, I usually townread you after a while. J scumread you this game and meta was definitely involved. You didn’t really push any lynches d1 and buddied me and aamirus

It made sense to me at the time with MM's behavior you and MM missed probably half of my posts in the thread because you guys keep saying things that factually are not true lol. I explained why i thought MM could be lover with ozy, yes i KNOW ozy is not red. But if im pushing a RED ozy and i explain that i think MM is in love with him because MM's behavior EOD 2 wasn't towny IMO. That makes The guy im pushing Ozy "the scum". mm, the guy desperately trying to save ozy, because townys generally don't behave in the manor MM did. And Mag the guy who doesn't care about anything else in the world other then MM all scum aligned there lol.

To say i didn't push any lynches D1 is also factually incorrect. I tried pushing an ozy lynch the monent I entered the game. I hadnto eventually give up on that because lterally almost every other player town read him lol. Then I literally came in EOD and pushed an Efe lynch over huey because of Efes behavior. I literally was the reason that Efe was lynched over huey there. I pushed hard for Efe to be lynched over huey.

Now you actually have my town meta incorrect here aswell. If i'm pretty surr someone is town, which i do get strong townreads in day 1 every game i play i buddy them. MM can tell you I always buddy people i townread in every town game i play. You are correct in saying i buddied you and aanirus day 1. You forgot that i also buddied MM and Huey. And i buddied aamirus the strongest and most consistantly.

I literally didn't prefer any other lynch to huey on day 2. I was 100% only ever ltnching ozy there 100%. You are legit still trying to scum paint me POST GAME LOL. Here's the time where i can actually be honest lol.

Huey wasnt that scummy

Huey wasnt that scummy

@MM thats not my scumgame btw. And my reasons for lynching ozy were not horrible i'd have done the same as town.

@MM thats not my scumgame btw. And my reasons for lynching ozy were not horrible i'd have done the same as town.

Ozy you don't want me to burn in hell do you?

Ozy you don't want me to burn in hell do you?

I'm fine with being scum read for legit reasoning.

I was not being cautious, and some scumreads on me stemmed from that so i can't really follow that logic.

The manipulation part yeah i was manipulating the entire game. So thats a fair scumread lol.

I'm fine with being scum read for legit reasoning.

I was not being cautious, and some scumreads on me stemmed from that so i can't really follow that logic.

The manipulation part yeah i was manipulating the entire game. So thats a fair scumread lol.

[QUOTE=Caustic;841553]May I also ask why Light decided to not go on me.
As that is rather, depressing.[/QUOTE]

I'm sure light was on you, and we roleblocked him.

Originally Posted by Caustic

May I also ask why Light decided to not go on me.
As that is rather, depressing.

I'm sure light was on you, and we roleblocked him.

[QUOTE=blinkskater;840706]it's easier to pull quotes from my laptop if I have to.

I am the caroler.

N1 I tried giving Kovath a carol. I didn't see him as town and I needed to be sure because I watched him last game and he was a SUPER strong player and I had hard town read him very easily. I didn't get the same vibes from him this game so I decided to give him a carol, if he did not recieve one it would confirm him as scum. Unfortunately he didn't survive N1.

N2 I decided to give Solid a carol to see if he would claim if he had received one or not. [COLOR="#FF0000"]His EOD yesterday looked pretty bad even though he changed over to Ozy like I wanted I now feel that was his intentions from the get go he needed a reason to switch I fucking coincidentally gave him one.[/COLOR]

I was a bit skeptical about there possibly being two carolers yesterday but I didn't have any reason not to believe aamirus. Now that she has claimed list maker I feel a lot better about this and mechanically we can solve this game because we have two outed scums. FMPOV mechanically huey is 100% scum as is MM. The meta is officially broken MM has 100% fooled me this game.[/QUOTE]

this was actually a slip from me when I was half asleep.

Originally Posted by blinkskater

it's easier to pull quotes from my laptop if I have to.

I am the caroler.

N1 I tried giving Kovath a carol. I didn't see him as town and I needed to be sure because I watched him last game and he was a SUPER strong player and I had hard town read him very easily. I didn't get the same vibes from him this game so I decided to give him a carol, if he did not recieve one it would confirm him as scum. Unfortunately he didn't survive N1.

N2 I decided to give Solid a carol to see if he would claim if he had received one or not. His EOD yesterday looked pretty bad even though he changed over to Ozy like I wanted I now feel that was his intentions from the get go he needed a reason to switch I fucking coincidentally gave him one.

I was a bit skeptical about there possibly being two carolers yesterday but I didn't have any reason not to believe aamirus. Now that she has claimed list maker I feel a lot better about this and mechanically we can solve this game because we have two outed scums. FMPOV mechanically huey is 100% scum as is MM. The meta is officially broken MM has 100% fooled me this game.

this was actually a slip from me when I was half asleep.

Gg's

Gg's

This is my farewell post

#bye

This is my farewell post

#bye

They never once mechanically claim how I can be scum. It's always blink's been wrong he's scum here or blinks reads were bad this game he's scum or blinks scummy he's scum.

I'm literally non counterclaimed 2nd invest role, and to believe i'm scum here you have to believe that Kovath was killed and was exactly a TPR invest, that's a 28% chance !scumblink got lucky on day 1 with a tpr kill+sanitize. Not once have MM or Mag even said this is why I am scum here. From a towns POV it would be the only logical thing to push here and they havn't done it. They are never town. I've had 2 bad pushes and reads this game and clearly that was enough for scum to keep me alive, and the huey push fit right into the agenda and would make me look even worse.

So I am infact done with this game because it's impossible to argue players who baseless discredit, yeah it's a scum technique but the players on this site have a habit of choosing that kind of play over the play that of logical deductive reasoning. This makes playing as town on this site and mafia in general extremely irritating aside from the stint I had in the MU championships. Where I noticed a huge increase in town play.

I only played this because of [MENTION=34329]Frinckles[/MENTION] and will never be dragged into it again.

They never once mechanically claim how I can be scum. It's always blink's been wrong he's scum here or blinks reads were bad this game he's scum or blinks scummy he's scum.

I'm literally non counterclaimed 2nd invest role, and to believe i'm scum here you have to believe that Kovath was killed and was exactly a TPR invest, that's a 28% chance !scumblink got lucky on day 1 with a tpr kill+sanitize. Not once have MM or Mag even said this is why I am scum here. From a towns POV it would be the only logical thing to push here and they havn't done it. They are never town. I've had 2 bad pushes and reads this game and clearly that was enough for scum to keep me alive, and the huey push fit right into the agenda and would make me look even worse.

So I am infact done with this game because it's impossible to argue players who baseless discredit, yeah it's a scum technique but the players on this site have a habit of choosing that kind of play over the play that of logical deductive reasoning. This makes playing as town on this site and mafia in general extremely irritating aside from the stint I had in the MU championships. Where I noticed a huge increase in town play.

I only played this because of @Frinckles and will never be dragged into it again.

[QUOTE=OzyWho;840124][MENTION=29730]Magoroth[/MENTION]
[COLOR="#00FF00"]You're not only voting 180 against your win condition's - mm - reads, but you're also doing so with no reasoning whatsoever :facepalm:
Either you are janitor and Kovath was angel, or.. well.. you're playing horribly this game.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

Alright look right here folks. Mag and MM keep bringing up my scum read on Ozy, which I've justified a thousand times over. Mag and MM always just respond the same exact way. "blink had no reason to scum read ozy. I proved that I had many reasons to scum read ozy, MM grazed over it and only focused on my first 6 or so quotes which explained my feelings that ozy had scummy intent with his opening post, and in which ways I could see scum utilizing a chart like that to divert the thread away from scum hunting and use it to manipulate the flow of information.

I would like to point out Ozy, a player whom Mag and MM keep trying to use my miss-read on that slot as an actual viable way to scum read me. They keep saying how ozy was never anti town and so towny. Again I provided my arguments as to why he wasn't. Ozy points out that Mag's doing an un explained 180, which he's been doing all game with zero logical progression and reasoning. If mag's not scum here ozy also says then he's playing the game horribly. I am agreeing with ozys logic here. Mag keeps boasting to the thread that he's playing to game at a "godlike level" and anyone who disagree's with his reads and votes him is scum. Mags only concern as a scum aligned neutral here is the survival of MM. Anything that goes against MM's survival, mag directly attacks with no logic and doesn't mind doing complete 180's on his reads because he think's he's untouchable because he knows MM is scum here and can't die at night.

Literally read Ozy's thoughts on Mag here and look at the way Mag has been flooding the thread with threatening and bullying rhetoric to make the town feel threatened to do what ever he wants, tell me how this ever comes from a town aligned players thoughts here, because it doesn;t

Alright so here's some of mag's superior to all of us logical dudctions here.
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840146]I think caustic and Huey are a team tbh[/QUOTE]
Pretty much out of nowhere, no quote's to back it no progression.
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840147]Caustic neither confirming nor denying whether he is a list maker is extremely bad[/QUOTE]
So he's saying caustic not outing himself as a TPR here is really bad. This is so scummy trying to get caustic to out like this, but as a neutral he can push a scum agenda and not really be punished for it.
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840149]After that I would probs look at Skylark and I think blink, they’re the only other three ones who could be scum with Huey I think tbh[/QUOTE]
So after calling out a Huey+caustic team without any explanation backing it, he says to look at skylark and blink because we are the only ones who can be scum with huey. That would make it huey+ caustic + blink + skylark as the 3 man scum team here acording to Mag the neutrals "pro town" in his wording agenda.
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840152]Solid is town, aamirus is town, MM is my target and an is town, and so is kira[/QUOTE]
Ok he states these people are town, two of which are still in my scum POE MM being confirmed from my pov. At the time these are all consensus town reads in the thread, ok thats fine.
Notice how there's also like Mag's scumreads no logical progression or even an explanation as to why he town reads any of them.
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840154]Actually I could very well see a light Huey team as well tbh
would make a fuckton of sense[/QUOTE]
Now a huey and light team makes sense when literally a minute or two ago he went from light being town, huey + caustic being a scumteam, then blink+skylark being the only explanation for a scum team. This is just 100% nonsense at this point and I don't see how anyone can take this neutral with an MM aligned agenda seriously. He literally is just spamming the thread with filler trying to confused the town from solving here. This never comes from a town aligned player here, he literally just placed 5 players on the scumteam not even bothering to give an explanation as to why.
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840155]Calling it rn it’s light and Huey 100%
not backing down from this lynch[/QUOTE]
LOL, here we go now it's 100% light and huey, and that he would never back down from the lynch.
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840162]How are they not?
The one who could be scum out of the two is aamirus but I don’t see why they can’t both be town[/QUOTE]
Now this is talking about aamirus and Solid D here. Doesn't even bother to explain why they could both be town just that they can both be town here, okay sure mag sure.

[QUOTE=blinkskater;840167]Wtf is this

GET HUEY OFF L1 IMMEDIATLY

[MENTION=29377]Marshmallow Marshall[/MENTION] please fucking pull that dont listen to the neutral post ASAP

[COLOR="#00FF00"][MENTION=29730]Magoroth[/MENTION] WTF you vote huey without explanation, did you even read his dam thoughts and conclusions?[/QUOTE][/COLOR]
Aite so here is when I logged on and entered the thread after having to read mags thought progressions there.
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840169]Of course I have fam and my conclusion is Huey is scum with Kira[/QUOTE]
His literal conclusion after going through everything I just pointed out was literally huey + kira scum team now. His current agenda after huey is flipped town is kire is 100% town, there's no logical progression in between there that would point as to why he didn't suspect yagami after huey flipped town here.
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840174]It was blink who made me claim[/QUOTE]
Mag's under some pressure here from me, and to make me look scummy says that I made him claim. I made him claim his own role because I was what, pressuring someone I thought could possibly be scum? Guess what turns out Mag was not town here, and I was right about that.
[QUOTE=blinkskater;840178]I didn't make you do anything.[/QUOTE]
I responded with this because anyone in their right mind could see that I didn't make Mag do anything.
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840179]No but I was scumpainring you when I claimed[/QUOTE]
He responded that he was scumpainting me when I claimed. Why would you need to scumpaint a player if you are not infact yourself scum? You are trying to make me look bad in the thread by saying shit about me thats not true so you can try and get me lynched? I'm fucking town here, why would someone playing from a towns perspectiv ever need to do this? it's fucking scummy as hell and he openly admits to doing it.
[QUOTE=blinkskater;840182]So how the fuck did i make you claim?

I didn't make you do anything, if mechanically i didn't believe you to be neutral, id vote you right now for that statement.[/QUOTE]
I again responded to his bogus statements with this.
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840183]Well maybe I phrased it wrong, I’m saying you’re one of the reasons I claimed[/QUOTE]
SOME serious backpedaling because he knew I was right and now says he misphrased it. I don't see how logically you can miss-phrase, "blink made me claim" It seems pretty straight forward to me.
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840184]The other being that it was better for the town, and in fact I otherwise wouldn’t have claimed. More advantageous for me to do something really dumb and get myself lynched[/QUOTE]

Now he tries to appear "pro town" after showing anti town tendencies by not explaining any of his reads and flooding the thread with pure shit. Basically says himself that it's better for town if he claims. He doesn't give a shit about town he gives a shit about MM, and since MM is townread here he's trying to get fucking town points by saying hey everyone MM's my target and you all agree he's town aligned so I'm claiming here!! He says it himself wouldn't have claimed if it wasn't advantageous to HIMSELF.

So those were mags closing thoughts at the end of day 2. Ozy was lynched, proceeds to flip "town." Now here's where mag comes into day 3 immediately after a caustic lover flip, and a town varcron flip. Mag votes me as a "confirmed scum." This furthers my theory that the scum team were definitely keeping me alive here and because of my wrong pushes are trying to set me up as the perfect miss lynch bait for being so sure and so wrong. So right before day 2 ended mag was sure huey was scum with caustic+yagami+blink+skylark, lol okay.Let's not forget huey is still alive here whom mag claimed was 100% scum, and he goes after me. This is RIGHT after I called out MM's scummy EOD play there by going all in on trying to defend Ozy because "mm town read him" When do you ever see a town go all in defending someone they don't mechanically know their alignment on? YOU DON'T it's usually done by scum to white night a player that they have pocketed and know is town. This furthers my theory that MAg picked up on MM and huey being aligned. MM knows his partners flip will create mass chaos on the town and the whole point of the actress role is to flip them as town to get others FUCKED. This would be a completely valid buss here, MM knows this. Ozy was pocketed hard by MM, and having a town on your side makes it time to flip an actress.

Mags whole "story" from the day before was that huey is 100% scum and either yagami+blink+varcron+skylark are all his allies, mind you it's a 3 man scumteam LOL.

[QUOTE=Magoroth;840447]I’m going to lynch confirmed scum
they should’ve killed me last night, that was a terrible kill
[vote]blinkskater[/vote][/QUOTE]
Ignores the player he thought is 100% scum and goes after me LOL

[QUOTE=Magoroth;840448]I will be posting my lw in a few mins when I get to my comp[/QUOTE]
Okay so Mag's going to post his LW, why? Only reason I see the need to post a LW for cred is when you're trying to push an agenda. "like hey look at me I have a long LW filled with bullshit." I'm town aligned here look at me i am so town!
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840451]The scum team is Huey, blink and solidD
i have another pet theory I shan’t discuss yet
also for the love of all that is holy DO NOT claim a role today, I don’t want mm to get nightkilled for claiming a TPR...[/QUOTE]
Now the scumteam is huey+blink+solid D, no explanation just garble inserted into the thread. Now Mag has not once talked about aamirus carol claim here with huey and myself being in the carol. And the solid D is now scum read is a complete 180 from the last time he even talked about solid D here.
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840453]Btw, unironically do NOT talk to confirmed scum. This is lylo[/QUOTE]
Says that it's LYLO
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840454]Wait this isn’t lylo, the lover was town aligned
so it’s 6v3[/QUOTE]
Alright he made a mistake in confusing the town and actually realized it, okay thats fine But to know that there's 3 mafia alive with potential actress in the game is SUS.
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840460][COLOR="#FF0000"]No we’re not at lylo where the f did you come with the idea that it would be lylo?[/COLOR] Mm is always town here, blink did a complete one eighty on his read on me at eid, and his play this game has been extremely scummy and manipulative, if you were Town you would’ve apologized for your lack of activity not gone ‘hooray I made it’, that’s what scum say when they realize they wouldn’t be disappointing their allies. I had a theory blink was scum aligned lover judging from his play on d1 but no, he is scum. Also his reaction when I revealed my softclaim was fake as fuck. There’s no way any of you are Town, I’m never backing down from this lynch ever.
also solidd was literally openwolfing yesterday and Kovath got killed for scum reading g him. Got em hois[/QUOTE]
Mag immediately attacks huey for saying the same thing that mag just fucked up and said. Proceeds to push his anything so MM survives agenda, then says I did a complete 180 on Mag at EOD? *** take not of this for later, he doesn't even explain the supposed 180 either. Further discredits me for being just scummy and manipulative, no explanations, okay scum. comes up with a bogus theory i was a scum aligned lover but doesnt say why. Claims I had a fake reaction to when he revealed his softclaim, uh I gave reasoning as to why I believed your soft claim. Nobodys town he says we're all scum LOL, okay confusion creator.
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840461]there’s no way I’m letting y’all pocket me again, blink was fishing for roles yesterday when he asked for feedback. I 100% believe aamirus is town here because of how reticent she was to claim feedback, mm is also town by voting the right train.[/QUOTE]
Claims I was fishing for roles? DOesn't provide any backup to this baseless discredit. Since when is asking if anyone recieved any night feedback rolefishing? But aamirus revealed her night feedback and is 100% town because she didn't want to claim feedback that helps town solve the game? This is flawed logic.
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840462]You picked a bad neutral to piss off tbh[/QUOTE]
Anyone who goes against MM will get baseless discredits and shade thrown at them without any logic or thread back up, I get it Mag.

[QUOTE=Huey The Long;840464]Nah cause you are scum with MM, 100%. [COLOR="#FF0000"]I am not backing down from this theory i have. Ozy was the Actress[/COLOR], he clearly open wolfed this fact yesterday and nobody even blinked a eye at it, i did however. Also wtf was that LW, who tf makes a last will where they go. ooooh i flip as town but i might be actress. cause like what in gods name type of town play is that, clearly he was signalling to his scummy bois that he was Scum because they dont get to know each others roles just each others names from looking at the Setup.

[vote[Marshmallow Marshall[/vote]

If Ozy was actually town i am gonna be so amgry.[/QUOTE]
So here's huey with his scumread and vote on MM, to me it seems like huey is knowing that he is going to be flipped here so it's very likley he is trying to distance himself from MM by voting him, makes tons of sense to do as scum if they both know huey's flipping town because of his acting. Huey even goes further to try and create the image that Ozy was indeed actress to throw everyone off his trail.
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840481]Lmao is this not open wolfing? Discrediting me by calling me angel, I don't see you scum hunting SCUM.[/QUOTE]
Solid made a post about Mag being scummy. Mag immediatley attacks him because somehow solid needs to be scum because it fits in with the mag/mm agenda.
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840493]If you flip town you're actress.[/QUOTE]
Mag is 100% calling huey actress here if he flips town, this means mag thinks huey is 100% scum, okay that's fine
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840502]Huey's Lynch has been the most difficult to push ALL game, blink's been fighting hard for his team-mate since d1, and on d2 he didn't even acknowledge Efe's death. I acknowledged it on D1.[/QUOTE]
So now this is blink+huey team again because I was fighting hard for huey? Uhm I was fighting hard for an ozy lynch, and on day one me along with half the thread scumread efekann, another lynch I pushed for, I wasn't defending huey I was pushing ozy/efe. This is mag flipping the narrative 180 to fit his own scummy needs.
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840531]blink is so full of shit this game he's abouta explode at any point.[/QUOTE]
Just fires off a baseless discredit, yeah that's real towny.
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840533][COLOR="#FF0000"]LMAO, cite your sources scum[/COLOR], you've not DONE ANY scum hunting this game and randomly decided huey was town on d2 after not having ONE single read all game, me trying to read people is TOWN-INDICATIVE, me FLIP-FLOPPING is TOWN-INDICATIIVE, not scum indicative.[/QUOTE]
Here we have a supper scummy post. Yells at someone to site their sources when Mag has barley cited a single source the entire game, LOL. He's giving his horribly agendaish and narratively twisting chaos ensuing playstlyle absolutes on being town indicative and not scum indicative. This is probably one of the dumbest statements i've seen in the game. Just because you can't utter a single coherent read, and are giving off the appearance of trying to give a fuck about reading people and the game that doesn't make you town it makes you literally retarded, and that shit looks scummy not towny.
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840536]also I've called blink out as scum as early as d1. I even called him scum on d2. HOW AM I FLIP-FLOPPING.[/QUOTE]
How contradicting. In his last quote he called himself flip floppy and it's a town trait. Proceeds to get upset for being called flip floppy like it's a scummy trait that he isn't doing? I hope you guys can see the many things that are wrong with this here.
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840564]AGAIN:
DO NOT REVEAL YOUR NIGHT FEEDBACK. THAT'S A FORM OF ROLEFISHING, DO NOT DO THIS.[/QUOTE]
Again since when is revealing feedback rolefishing? no explanation no nothing, just trying to scare the town into revealing feedback that can fucking help. ANTI TOWN AS FUCK.
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840597]Pretty sure it’s solid cuz he was openwolfing and he’s so full of shit today it’s not even funny but maaaaaan[/QUOTE]
so solid D is openwolfing and so full of shit where are the examples? you can't expect people to believe this BS unless your just a lazy scum aligned neutral who doesn't need to put in the work to solve the game because you only care about MM surviving.
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840645][vote]Huey The Long[/vote]
its not Mm, and out of blink/Huey it can only be Huey.[/QUOTE]
Changes to huey, because of course we know it can't be fucking MM LOL. and now after he's been preaching a blink and huey scum team over and over and over, between blink and huey it can only be huey? Why mag? what makes you think this? there's no fucking progression as to why or how or ANYTHING. You just change your mind at the drop of a dime when you feel it suits MM.
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840657]Still doesn’t explain why blink randomly derailed Huey’s train btw[/QUOTE]
Again I was pushing a player I thought to be scum "ozy"
[QUOTE=blinkskater;840671]I find it hilarious that you say you wont lynch anyone but me and then vote huey lol[/QUOTE]
I call out Mag's BS he said he'll only vote me previously then when it benefits him switches over to huey.
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840700]The worst part is[COLOR="#FF0000"] I came into this day determined to push hard for a town lynch [/COLOR]whereas it’s lookinglike I may have been scum all along jfc[/QUOTE]
Okay he wanted to push a town lynch, furthers that Mag is only pushing MM's agenda. And is realizing he's scum sided -_-.
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840715][COLOR="#FF0000"]Tbh if you guys lynch MM I will side with scum[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
If we lynch MM he's scum siding, lol how can you guys take anything Mag says seriously while he's protecting his scum ally. Have you all forgotten that aamirus was scumreading MM? She also said that between huey and I theres 1 scum, which is huey, and between MM/solid there's also 1 scum, ====>MM.
[QUOTE=Huey The Long;840719]I am gonna die today, I have so much more to do.

This is a recreation of the assassination of Huey Long, 1935.
I was a good man, i did my best, i am town, a humble patron to those of Louisiana.

Yet the Corporate asshats have convinced people against me, there is no way i can survive, this is giving me slight Deja vu of that game where i was Poisoner and i saw Blink as Town the whole game. I fear Blink may be scum, but if that is the case i have been taken advanatge of, used to lynch a town who in my eyes did indeed look scummy. Used to hurt those i only wished to help.

I am sorry to the town if my theory is untrue, if my reads are false and i have assisted the scum, i only did the best i could.
[vote]Marshmallow Marshall[/vote][/QUOTE]
ANother attempt to distance himself from MM here, his post is about me being the scum here and from a town hueys POV he should NOT be voting anyone but me here, it makes zero sense to place a vote upon MM unless he was trying to distance himself there, straight up.

[QUOTE=blinkskater;840729]That lynch immunity depends on Mag, and [COLOR="#00FF00"]personally I don't trust anything from the magoroth slot because his only concern is MM[/COLOR]. With all of the claims out right now naz, [COLOR="#00FF00"]mechanically fmpov Huey and MM are scum.[/COLOR]

Aamirus claimed list maker and that N1 she checked Huey and myself alignments and got different alignments. With Mag UN CC'D neutral, and confirmed by MM I believe Mag to be the angel because the lover is now dead. FMPOV this confirmed huey as not the same alignment as me so huey is 100% scum. Aamirus was faking to receive a carol as a way to out some of the information that she had without revealing herself as List maker it was a clever play imo and I still trust her to be telling the truth. N2 I believe she checked caustic and huey. They were not the same alignment because Caustic flipped neutral love.

I claim Caroler. I tried giving kovath a carol on night one becasue it would confirmed him as town or not if he came forward and said that he received one. N2 I send a carol Solids way to confirm the same, Solid did came forward with a carol of MM, aamirus, Varcron. Varcron is dead and flipped town. This means that MM and aamirus are not the same alignment. So I guess what this comes down to is if you trust aamirus to be town there's one scum between huey and myself. If you trust me to also be town there's one scum between MM and aamirus.

It really sucks that SB16 isn't here to contribute and tbh Ozy very likley could have been scum, that LW saying he could be actress is baffling when you try and think about that coming from a town players POV.[/QUOTE]
My thought's at the time.
[QUOTE=blinkskater;840734]I wasn't sure why you were voting MM tbh when if you believe aamirus to be list maker you should 100% be voting me that was scummy mate.

Are you saying you just realized that aamirus was listmaker?[/QUOTE]
I even call out the BS vote on MM by huey here.
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840868]Please stop being so scummy[/QUOTE]
MM is basically openwolfing with mag asking him to stop playing scummy LOL, mag knows MM will be a serious lynch candidate because he's obvious scum.
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840869]Mm, you need to shut the fuck up and think. You’re not thinking before you’re posting, and if you claim a role I swear by gods given might I will make your team lose even with you still alive[/QUOTE]
More open wolfing, basically coaching MM here to stop being scummy, and that if MM fake claimed a tpr role like he often does would be scummy asf.
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840870]Lol @[COLOR="#FF0000"] scum Aamirus for trying to derail the blink train[/COLOR]. Aamirus is the deep wolf I was talking about,[COLOR="#FF0000"] it makes no sense for the scum team to just all out themselves yesterday at EoD to lynch Ozy,[/COLOR] one of them has to be a deep wolf. For the longest time I thought that deep wolf was varcron, clearly not as he flipped town. Your claim doesn’t explain why blink defended Huey so hard yesterday. Why would he ever do that as town? Or indeed if Huey were the town player. Defending is scummier than being defended; you think a scum like blinkskater would ever do that?
[vote]aamirus[/vote]
youre not gonit to pocket me again, SCUM.[/QUOTE]
Now aamirus is scum with blink+huey, aamirus never tried de-railing any trains this is a baseless discredit on an UN CC'D TPR, Mag neveer seems to want to acknowledge the fact that there are two UN CC'D TPRS in this game and one has flipped what was claimed already. The other is myself, but I have no credibility right?
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840871]Ya this is definitely the right lynch here.
lynch the deep wolf Aamirus.[/QUOTE]
Yeah aamirus is deffinitly wolf here right, you realize that she was killed by wolves at night right?
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840872]So, the scum isn’t solidD. It has to be aamirus. With blink and Huey.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I totally follow that because now that aamirus is wolf it has to be with blink and huey and solid is town right? Please for the love of god I'm getting stupid by the minute here. This is not logical town thinking it's spitfiring what ever you can to promot a pro scum MM agenda.
[QUOTE=Magoroth;840873]Like if you can’t resd this and see how full of shit blink is here you’re scum or confused.
now blink after being outed is prepared to bus the one player he’s been trying to defend all game lol if this isn’t scum I don’t know what the fuck it is.
you seriously expect me to believe Aamirus isn’t covering for her teammate blink here?
lynch order should be as follows:
aamirus >> blinkskater >> Kira >> SolidD >Skylark[/QUOTE]
This right here is so scummy. He ceaselessly discredits me for being scummy and says if people cant see it they are to dumb. Town don't behave like that, and if they do they shouldn't be playing mafia. On the drop of a Dime aamirus because she had MM as 50/50 scum with solid D, is now on the wolfteam with blink and huey. Aamirus claimed listmaker and huey and I are seprate alignments. Mags thoughts make zero logical sense. aamirus +huey+blink can never be a team here. aamrius claims huey and I are different alignments as scum if huey and i flip shes outed, thats never a wolf. SHe was also un cc'd listmaker but sure every un cc'd tpr according to make is scum because they have mechanical edvidence of MM being scum.
To boot the end list he show there lynch aamirus>>>blinkskater TWO TPR CLAIMS, then switches to solid D and skylark. WHERE THE FUCK IS THE HUEY HE HAS BEEN PUSHING ALL FUCKING GAME? Oh right he's having so much trouble trying to flood the thread he can't keep his fucking scum teams straight.






[QUOTE=Marshmallow Marshall;841451]LOL

You realize how little sense that makes, right? I defended Ozy so hard you thought I was his lover, according to you. But the fact that Ozy was Huey's countertrain doesn't make you have second thoughts? What about no lol.


~~


Time to address your wall of quotes. A lot of posts, very little relevance. You are basically putting your whole "case" against Ozy in there, so let's sum it up.

1: I don't like the fact that you used self meta, your first post gave me bad vibes.
Okay, that's fair. Nothing strong enough to tunnel someone into oblivion, far from that, but the point is fair. Let's look at the other quotes...

2: I still dislike your opening post, Ozy. I don't like the intent I see behind it (no more details).
That's more or less the same point. Still, it's fair to push that point. Once again, not strong enough to tunnel someone into oblivion (to the point of calling people who defend him LOVERS).

3: Checking who was viewing the thread not so long ago is a bad way to read people.
Right. But that's not alignment indicative at all, and has no relevance to a case against him.

4: I scum lean on Ozy because I don't like the intent that I'm getting from his post (the first one).
Same argument as before, just repeated. Also notice the "I think MM - Ozy is TvS" repeated twice at least in the post, that's fluffy and there is no REAL explaination, just stating thoughts that don't have links between them. Fair, but not a case, once again.

5: I scum read Ozy
Fair, but that's still not a case!

6: I think scum!ozy would do a gambit with charts.
Again, the first post, and the "I don't like charts".

7 - 13: A lot of stating that Ozy is scum, but with no real case-making, once again. "You were right when you pushed PTB in that way in some game, so I think you're doing the same with Ozy and are right again" is not a case. Arguing with Ozy on theory points is not a case.


All this proves is that you pushed Ozy, and if you consider that to be your exhaustive case, well, congratulations! You're just proved my point : your push revolves [I]solely[/I] around "I don't like Ozy's first post, and I don't like the charts that come from it. I see a scum intent behind that."

That's a fair reason for a medium scumread. For a vote, maybe, too. But for the death tunnel of oblivion, for calling people who defend him lover with scum!ozy, for saying "YOU ARE IGNORING MY CASE!!!!!" and supposedly raging at people because they don't "acknowledge" your very few, poorly explained and poorly detailed points? No way. [MENTION=44954]Chip Skylark[/MENTION] That's what you're trusting, really? Look at the case. This is the post, btw : [URL="www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/45795-S-FM-292-Silent-Night-14P?p=841332&viewfull=1#post841332"]www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/45795-S-FM-292-Silent-Night-14P?p=841332&viewfull=1#post841332[/URL]


[MENTION=30619]Light_Yagami[/MENTION] You too, look at it if you still have doubts.[/QUOTE]

You disregard all of my points and just turn them into I scum read Ozy for the list. You're mechanically scum here due to being in a list from a caroler that 2 of the players in that list flipped town. You completely ignored the last 5-6 quotes with more different reasoning and substance as to why I thought ozy was scum. and can only come up with You scum read ozy because of the list lol. It doesn't revolve around ozys first post. That's a straight up lie and proves that you're only reading/cherry picking what you want to make me look scummy. All my logic here and reasons here you ignore LOL.

[QUOTE=blinkskater;840216]You can't be bothered eh? Okay I will advocate your lynch more heavily then and let's see can be bothered to try and prevent that.

I also know I am not scum but can see the obvious world that would make players think I'm aligned there. As far as caustic goes I have reason to believe he's town.

So without your explanations as to why you think he's scum and why caustic (aside from the obvious fact that he's not voting huey) is his partner, then I am going to assume you can't fabricate any reason and are what I call a "frozen" wolf, because yeah I still think you're a wolf.[/QUOTE]



[QUOTE=blinkskater;840223]Your twisting things here. Putting in effort to the game is 100% NAI.

I did NOT read your opening post as scummy because of EFFORT, I made that clear. So I am no hypocrite here you are just a word twisting scum. I read the intent behind your opening post as scummy you can go back to the first page and re-read that for your proof.

You've been giving me the impression that you cherry pick certain things people say and twist them into scum sided points. I feel you ignore a LOT of things people say and only focus on the points you pick and twist. There's tons of resistance to your lynch, and I also saw Varcron come at me with shade on day one and day 2 while I was pushing at you. I sense a potential team between Varcron and you.

You were also VERY VERY hesitant to give a solid read on me and when we were arguing yesterday you gave me the feeling that you didn't want to commit to a read on me, and the fact that you said I was open wolfing and weren't trying to gauge my alignment more also struck me as scummy. It seemed from my pov you wanted to discredit me as scummy so the thread would think less of me and my reads. BUt then when it actually came to scum reading me you didn't want any part of it.

We went over this yesterday, have you already forgot?[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE=blinkskater;840227]I think Varcron is scum with Ozy i've said this already. See my latest post.

You see what Ozy is doing every chance he gets right?

He's taking points that are NAI and scum and town could do and twisting them into absolutes, forgetting about players is scum indicative?

Why? because it was blink who said it? He's twisting EVERYTHING to fit his damn narrative and I need you all to realize this.[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE=blinkskater;840235]I've played a lot of FM, if I see someone saying someone is open wolfing and acting scummy, then they don't push this player and just let him exist, I scum read that. I also scum read players who seem to start getting really flustered when they have a simple scum read on them.[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE=blinkskater;840242]Oh now you can be bothered? After I say I'm going to heavily advocate your lynch huh?

You're scum here 100%. So now huey is bussing me when before you said you town read me, now im scum with huey agian because it fits your narrative?

I'm done conversing with you if you're just going to get toxic and tell me to fuck off.[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE=blinkskater;840259]having an agressive tone is not the same thing as being toxic I'm not telling people to burn in hell i'm playing the game aggressive, did you just put a crack in the meta... are you actually scum with ozy here?[/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by OzyWho

@Magoroth
You're not only voting 180 against your win condition's - mm - reads, but you're also doing so with no reasoning whatsoever
Either you are janitor and Kovath was angel, or.. well.. you're playing horribly this game.

Alright look right here folks. Mag and MM keep bringing up my scum read on Ozy, which I've justified a thousand times over. Mag and MM always just respond the same exact way. "blink had no reason to scum read ozy. I proved that I had many reasons to scum read ozy, MM grazed over it and only focused on my first 6 or so quotes which explained my feelings that ozy had scummy intent with his opening post, and in which ways I could see scum utilizing a chart like that to divert the thread away from scum hunting and use it to manipulate the flow of information.

I would like to point out Ozy, a player whom Mag and MM keep trying to use my miss-read on that slot as an actual viable way to scum read me. They keep saying how ozy was never anti town and so towny. Again I provided my arguments as to why he wasn't. Ozy points out that Mag's doing an un explained 180, which he's been doing all game with zero logical progression and reasoning. If mag's not scum here ozy also says then he's playing the game horribly. I am agreeing with ozys logic here. Mag keeps boasting to the thread that he's playing to game at a "godlike level" and anyone who disagree's with his reads and votes him is scum. Mags only concern as a scum aligned neutral here is the survival of MM. Anything that goes against MM's survival, mag directly attacks with no logic and doesn't mind doing complete 180's on his reads because he think's he's untouchable because he knows MM is scum here and can't die at night.

Literally read Ozy's thoughts on Mag here and look at the way Mag has been flooding the thread with threatening and bullying rhetoric to make the town feel threatened to do what ever he wants, tell me how this ever comes from a town aligned players thoughts here, because it doesn;t

Alright so here's some of mag's superior to all of us logical dudctions here.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

I think caustic and Huey are a team tbh

Pretty much out of nowhere, no quote's to back it no progression.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Caustic neither confirming nor denying whether he is a list maker is extremely bad

So he's saying caustic not outing himself as a TPR here is really bad. This is so scummy trying to get caustic to out like this, but as a neutral he can push a scum agenda and not really be punished for it.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

After that I would probs look at Skylark and I think blink, they’re the only other three ones who could be scum with Huey I think tbh

So after calling out a Huey+caustic team without any explanation backing it, he says to look at skylark and blink because we are the only ones who can be scum with huey. That would make it huey+ caustic + blink + skylark as the 3 man scum team here acording to Mag the neutrals "pro town" in his wording agenda.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Solid is town, aamirus is town, MM is my target and an is town, and so is kira

Ok he states these people are town, two of which are still in my scum POE MM being confirmed from my pov. At the time these are all consensus town reads in the thread, ok thats fine.
Notice how there's also like Mag's scumreads no logical progression or even an explanation as to why he town reads any of them.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Actually I could very well see a light Huey team as well tbh
would make a fuckton of sense

Now a huey and light team makes sense when literally a minute or two ago he went from light being town, huey + caustic being a scumteam, then blink+skylark being the only explanation for a scum team. This is just 100% nonsense at this point and I don't see how anyone can take this neutral with an MM aligned agenda seriously. He literally is just spamming the thread with filler trying to confused the town from solving here. This never comes from a town aligned player here, he literally just placed 5 players on the scumteam not even bothering to give an explanation as to why.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Calling it rn it’s light and Huey 100%
not backing down from this lynch

LOL, here we go now it's 100% light and huey, and that he would never back down from the lynch.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

How are they not?
The one who could be scum out of the two is aamirus but I don’t see why they can’t both be town

Now this is talking about aamirus and Solid D here. Doesn't even bother to explain why they could both be town just that they can both be town here, okay sure mag sure.

Originally Posted by blinkskater

Wtf is this

GET HUEY OFF L1 IMMEDIATLY

@Marshmallow Marshall please fucking pull that dont listen to the neutral post ASAP

@Magoroth WTF you vote huey without explanation, did you even read his dam thoughts and conclusions?

Aite so here is when I logged on and entered the thread after having to read mags thought progressions there.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Of course I have fam and my conclusion is Huey is scum with Kira

His literal conclusion after going through everything I just pointed out was literally huey + kira scum team now. His current agenda after huey is flipped town is kire is 100% town, there's no logical progression in between there that would point as to why he didn't suspect yagami after huey flipped town here.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

It was blink who made me claim

Mag's under some pressure here from me, and to make me look scummy says that I made him claim. I made him claim his own role because I was what, pressuring someone I thought could possibly be scum? Guess what turns out Mag was not town here, and I was right about that.

Originally Posted by blinkskater

I didn't make you do anything.

I responded with this because anyone in their right mind could see that I didn't make Mag do anything.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

No but I was scumpainring you when I claimed

He responded that he was scumpainting me when I claimed. Why would you need to scumpaint a player if you are not infact yourself scum? You are trying to make me look bad in the thread by saying shit about me thats not true so you can try and get me lynched? I'm fucking town here, why would someone playing from a towns perspectiv ever need to do this? it's fucking scummy as hell and he openly admits to doing it.

Originally Posted by blinkskater

So how the fuck did i make you claim?

I didn't make you do anything, if mechanically i didn't believe you to be neutral, id vote you right now for that statement.

I again responded to his bogus statements with this.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Well maybe I phrased it wrong, I’m saying you’re one of the reasons I claimed

SOME serious backpedaling because he knew I was right and now says he misphrased it. I don't see how logically you can miss-phrase, "blink made me claim" It seems pretty straight forward to me.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

The other being that it was better for the town, and in fact I otherwise wouldn’t have claimed. More advantageous for me to do something really dumb and get myself lynched

Now he tries to appear "pro town" after showing anti town tendencies by not explaining any of his reads and flooding the thread with pure shit. Basically says himself that it's better for town if he claims. He doesn't give a shit about town he gives a shit about MM, and since MM is townread here he's trying to get fucking town points by saying hey everyone MM's my target and you all agree he's town aligned so I'm claiming here!! He says it himself wouldn't have claimed if it wasn't advantageous to HIMSELF.

So those were mags closing thoughts at the end of day 2. Ozy was lynched, proceeds to flip "town." Now here's where mag comes into day 3 immediately after a caustic lover flip, and a town varcron flip. Mag votes me as a "confirmed scum." This furthers my theory that the scum team were definitely keeping me alive here and because of my wrong pushes are trying to set me up as the perfect miss lynch bait for being so sure and so wrong. So right before day 2 ended mag was sure huey was scum with caustic+yagami+blink+skylark, lol okay.Let's not forget huey is still alive here whom mag claimed was 100% scum, and he goes after me. This is RIGHT after I called out MM's scummy EOD play there by going all in on trying to defend Ozy because "mm town read him" When do you ever see a town go all in defending someone they don't mechanically know their alignment on? YOU DON'T it's usually done by scum to white night a player that they have pocketed and know is town. This furthers my theory that MAg picked up on MM and huey being aligned. MM knows his partners flip will create mass chaos on the town and the whole point of the actress role is to flip them as town to get others FUCKED. This would be a completely valid buss here, MM knows this. Ozy was pocketed hard by MM, and having a town on your side makes it time to flip an actress.

Mags whole "story" from the day before was that huey is 100% scum and either yagami+blink+varcron+skylark are all his allies, mind you it's a 3 man scumteam LOL.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

I’m going to lynch confirmed scum
they should’ve killed me last night, that was a terrible kill

-vote blinkskater

Ignores the player he thought is 100% scum and goes after me LOL

Originally Posted by Magoroth

I will be posting my lw in a few mins when I get to my comp

Okay so Mag's going to post his LW, why? Only reason I see the need to post a LW for cred is when you're trying to push an agenda. "like hey look at me I have a long LW filled with bullshit." I'm town aligned here look at me i am so town!

Originally Posted by Magoroth

The scum team is Huey, blink and solidD
i have another pet theory I shan’t discuss yet
also for the love of all that is holy DO NOT claim a role today, I don’t want mm to get nightkilled for claiming a TPR...

Now the scumteam is huey+blink+solid D, no explanation just garble inserted into the thread. Now Mag has not once talked about aamirus carol claim here with huey and myself being in the carol. And the solid D is now scum read is a complete 180 from the last time he even talked about solid D here.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Btw, unironically do NOT talk to confirmed scum. This is lylo

Says that it's LYLO

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Wait this isn’t lylo, the lover was town aligned
so it’s 6v3

Alright he made a mistake in confusing the town and actually realized it, okay thats fine But to know that there's 3 mafia alive with potential actress in the game is SUS.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

No we’re not at lylo where the f did you come with the idea that it would be lylo? Mm is always town here, blink did a complete one eighty on his read on me at eid, and his play this game has been extremely scummy and manipulative, if you were Town you would’ve apologized for your lack of activity not gone ‘hooray I made it’, that’s what scum say when they realize they wouldn’t be disappointing their allies. I had a theory blink was scum aligned lover judging from his play on d1 but no, he is scum. Also his reaction when I revealed my softclaim was fake as fuck. There’s no way any of you are Town, I’m never backing down from this lynch ever.
also solidd was literally openwolfing yesterday and Kovath got killed for scum reading g him. Got em hois

Mag immediately attacks huey for saying the same thing that mag just fucked up and said. Proceeds to push his anything so MM survives agenda, then says I did a complete 180 on Mag at EOD? *** take not of this for later, he doesn't even explain the supposed 180 either. Further discredits me for being just scummy and manipulative, no explanations, okay scum. comes up with a bogus theory i was a scum aligned lover but doesnt say why. Claims I had a fake reaction to when he revealed his softclaim, uh I gave reasoning as to why I believed your soft claim. Nobodys town he says we're all scum LOL, okay confusion creator.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

there’s no way I’m letting y’all pocket me again, blink was fishing for roles yesterday when he asked for feedback. I 100% believe aamirus is town here because of how reticent she was to claim feedback, mm is also town by voting the right train.

Claims I was fishing for roles? DOesn't provide any backup to this baseless discredit. Since when is asking if anyone recieved any night feedback rolefishing? But aamirus revealed her night feedback and is 100% town because she didn't want to claim feedback that helps town solve the game? This is flawed logic.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

You picked a bad neutral to piss off tbh

Anyone who goes against MM will get baseless discredits and shade thrown at them without any logic or thread back up, I get it Mag.

Originally Posted by Huey The Long

Nah cause you are scum with MM, 100%. I am not backing down from this theory i have. Ozy was the Actress, he clearly open wolfed this fact yesterday and nobody even blinked a eye at it, i did however. Also wtf was that LW, who tf makes a last will where they go. ooooh i flip as town but i might be actress. cause like what in gods name type of town play is that, clearly he was signalling to his scummy bois that he was Scum because they dont get to know each others roles just each others names from looking at the Setup.

[vote[Marshmallow Marshall[/vote]

If Ozy was actually town i am gonna be so amgry.

So here's huey with his scumread and vote on MM, to me it seems like huey is knowing that he is going to be flipped here so it's very likley he is trying to distance himself from MM by voting him, makes tons of sense to do as scum if they both know huey's flipping town because of his acting. Huey even goes further to try and create the image that Ozy was indeed actress to throw everyone off his trail.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Lmao is this not open wolfing? Discrediting me by calling me angel, I don't see you scum hunting SCUM.

Solid made a post about Mag being scummy. Mag immediatley attacks him because somehow solid needs to be scum because it fits in with the mag/mm agenda.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

If you flip town you're actress.

Mag is 100% calling huey actress here if he flips town, this means mag thinks huey is 100% scum, okay that's fine

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Huey's Lynch has been the most difficult to push ALL game, blink's been fighting hard for his team-mate since d1, and on d2 he didn't even acknowledge Efe's death. I acknowledged it on D1.

So now this is blink+huey team again because I was fighting hard for huey? Uhm I was fighting hard for an ozy lynch, and on day one me along with half the thread scumread efekann, another lynch I pushed for, I wasn't defending huey I was pushing ozy/efe. This is mag flipping the narrative 180 to fit his own scummy needs.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

blink is so full of shit this game he's abouta explode at any point.

Just fires off a baseless discredit, yeah that's real towny.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

LMAO, cite your sources scum, you've not DONE ANY scum hunting this game and randomly decided huey was town on d2 after not having ONE single read all game, me trying to read people is TOWN-INDICATIVE, me FLIP-FLOPPING is TOWN-INDICATIIVE, not scum indicative.

Here we have a supper scummy post. Yells at someone to site their sources when Mag has barley cited a single source the entire game, LOL. He's giving his horribly agendaish and narratively twisting chaos ensuing playstlyle absolutes on being town indicative and not scum indicative. This is probably one of the dumbest statements i've seen in the game. Just because you can't utter a single coherent read, and are giving off the appearance of trying to give a fuck about reading people and the game that doesn't make you town it makes you literally retarded, and that shit looks scummy not towny.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

also I've called blink out as scum as early as d1. I even called him scum on d2. HOW AM I FLIP-FLOPPING.

How contradicting. In his last quote he called himself flip floppy and it's a town trait. Proceeds to get upset for being called flip floppy like it's a scummy trait that he isn't doing? I hope you guys can see the many things that are wrong with this here.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

AGAIN:
DO NOT REVEAL YOUR NIGHT FEEDBACK. THAT'S A FORM OF ROLEFISHING, DO NOT DO THIS.

Again since when is revealing feedback rolefishing? no explanation no nothing, just trying to scare the town into revealing feedback that can fucking help. ANTI TOWN AS FUCK.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Pretty sure it’s solid cuz he was openwolfing and he’s so full of shit today it’s not even funny but maaaaaan

so solid D is openwolfing and so full of shit where are the examples? you can't expect people to believe this BS unless your just a lazy scum aligned neutral who doesn't need to put in the work to solve the game because you only care about MM surviving.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

-vote Huey The Long

its not Mm, and out of blink/Huey it can only be Huey.

Changes to huey, because of course we know it can't be fucking MM LOL. and now after he's been preaching a blink and huey scum team over and over and over, between blink and huey it can only be huey? Why mag? what makes you think this? there's no fucking progression as to why or how or ANYTHING. You just change your mind at the drop of a dime when you feel it suits MM.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Still doesn’t explain why blink randomly derailed Huey’s train btw

Again I was pushing a player I thought to be scum "ozy"

Originally Posted by blinkskater

I find it hilarious that you say you wont lynch anyone but me and then vote huey lol

I call out Mag's BS he said he'll only vote me previously then when it benefits him switches over to huey.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

The worst part is I came into this day determined to push hard for a town lynch whereas it’s lookinglike I may have been scum all along jfc

Okay he wanted to push a town lynch, furthers that Mag is only pushing MM's agenda. And is realizing he's scum sided .

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Tbh if you guys lynch MM I will side with scum

If we lynch MM he's scum siding, lol how can you guys take anything Mag says seriously while he's protecting his scum ally. Have you all forgotten that aamirus was scumreading MM? She also said that between huey and I theres 1 scum, which is huey, and between MM/solid there's also 1 scum, ====>MM.

Originally Posted by Huey The Long

I am gonna die today, I have so much more to do.

This is a recreation of the assassination of Huey Long, 1935.
I was a good man, i did my best, i am town, a humble patron to those of Louisiana.

Yet the Corporate asshats have convinced people against me, there is no way i can survive, this is giving me slight Deja vu of that game where i was Poisoner and i saw Blink as Town the whole game. I fear Blink may be scum, but if that is the case i have been taken advanatge of, used to lynch a town who in my eyes did indeed look scummy. Used to hurt those i only wished to help.

I am sorry to the town if my theory is untrue, if my reads are false and i have assisted the scum, i only did the best i could.

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

ANother attempt to distance himself from MM here, his post is about me being the scum here and from a town hueys POV he should NOT be voting anyone but me here, it makes zero sense to place a vote upon MM unless he was trying to distance himself there, straight up.

Originally Posted by blinkskater

That lynch immunity depends on Mag, and personally I don't trust anything from the magoroth slot because his only concern is MM. With all of the claims out right now naz, mechanically fmpov Huey and MM are scum.

Aamirus claimed list maker and that N1 she checked Huey and myself alignments and got different alignments. With Mag UN CC'D neutral, and confirmed by MM I believe Mag to be the angel because the lover is now dead. FMPOV this confirmed huey as not the same alignment as me so huey is 100% scum. Aamirus was faking to receive a carol as a way to out some of the information that she had without revealing herself as List maker it was a clever play imo and I still trust her to be telling the truth. N2 I believe she checked caustic and huey. They were not the same alignment because Caustic flipped neutral love.

I claim Caroler. I tried giving kovath a carol on night one becasue it would confirmed him as town or not if he came forward and said that he received one. N2 I send a carol Solids way to confirm the same, Solid did came forward with a carol of MM, aamirus, Varcron. Varcron is dead and flipped town. This means that MM and aamirus are not the same alignment. So I guess what this comes down to is if you trust aamirus to be town there's one scum between huey and myself. If you trust me to also be town there's one scum between MM and aamirus.

It really sucks that SB16 isn't here to contribute and tbh Ozy very likley could have been scum, that LW saying he could be actress is baffling when you try and think about that coming from a town players POV.

My thought's at the time.

Originally Posted by blinkskater

I wasn't sure why you were voting MM tbh when if you believe aamirus to be list maker you should 100% be voting me that was scummy mate.

Are you saying you just realized that aamirus was listmaker?

I even call out the BS vote on MM by huey here.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Please stop being so scummy

MM is basically openwolfing with mag asking him to stop playing scummy LOL, mag knows MM will be a serious lynch candidate because he's obvious scum.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Mm, you need to shut the fuck up and think. You’re not thinking before you’re posting, and if you claim a role I swear by gods given might I will make your team lose even with you still alive

More open wolfing, basically coaching MM here to stop being scummy, and that if MM fake claimed a tpr role like he often does would be scummy asf.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Lol @ scum Aamirus for trying to derail the blink train. Aamirus is the deep wolf I was talking about, it makes no sense for the scum team to just all out themselves yesterday at EoD to lynch Ozy, one of them has to be a deep wolf. For the longest time I thought that deep wolf was varcron, clearly not as he flipped town. Your claim doesn’t explain why blink defended Huey so hard yesterday. Why would he ever do that as town? Or indeed if Huey were the town player. Defending is scummier than being defended; you think a scum like blinkskater would ever do that?

-vote aamirus

youre not gonit to pocket me again, SCUM.

Now aamirus is scum with blink+huey, aamirus never tried de-railing any trains this is a baseless discredit on an UN CC'D TPR, Mag neveer seems to want to acknowledge the fact that there are two UN CC'D TPRS in this game and one has flipped what was claimed already. The other is myself, but I have no credibility right?

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Ya this is definitely the right lynch here.
lynch the deep wolf Aamirus.

Yeah aamirus is deffinitly wolf here right, you realize that she was killed by wolves at night right?

Originally Posted by Magoroth

So, the scum isn’t solidD. It has to be aamirus. With blink and Huey.

Yeah I totally follow that because now that aamirus is wolf it has to be with blink and huey and solid is town right? Please for the love of god I'm getting stupid by the minute here. This is not logical town thinking it's spitfiring what ever you can to promot a pro scum MM agenda.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Like if you can’t resd this and see how full of shit blink is here you’re scum or confused.
now blink after being outed is prepared to bus the one player he’s been trying to defend all game lol if this isn’t scum I don’t know what the fuck it is.
you seriously expect me to believe Aamirus isn’t covering for her teammate blink here?
lynch order should be as follows:
aamirus >> blinkskater >> Kira >> SolidD >Skylark

This right here is so scummy. He ceaselessly discredits me for being scummy and says if people cant see it they are to dumb. Town don't behave like that, and if they do they shouldn't be playing mafia. On the drop of a Dime aamirus because she had MM as 50/50 scum with solid D, is now on the wolfteam with blink and huey. Aamirus claimed listmaker and huey and I are seprate alignments. Mags thoughts make zero logical sense. aamirus +huey+blink can never be a team here. aamrius claims huey and I are different alignments as scum if huey and i flip shes outed, thats never a wolf. SHe was also un cc'd listmaker but sure every un cc'd tpr according to make is scum because they have mechanical edvidence of MM being scum.
To boot the end list he show there lynch aamirus>>>blinkskater TWO TPR CLAIMS, then switches to solid D and skylark. WHERE THE FUCK IS THE HUEY HE HAS BEEN PUSHING ALL FUCKING GAME? Oh right he's having so much trouble trying to flood the thread he can't keep his fucking scum teams straight.

Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall

LOL

You realize how little sense that makes, right? I defended Ozy so hard you thought I was his lover, according to you. But the fact that Ozy was Huey's countertrain doesn't make you have second thoughts? What about no lol.


~~


Time to address your wall of quotes. A lot of posts, very little relevance. You are basically putting your whole "case" against Ozy in there, so let's sum it up.

1: I don't like the fact that you used self meta, your first post gave me bad vibes.
Okay, that's fair. Nothing strong enough to tunnel someone into oblivion, far from that, but the point is fair. Let's look at the other quotes...

2: I still dislike your opening post, Ozy. I don't like the intent I see behind it (no more details).
That's more or less the same point. Still, it's fair to push that point. Once again, not strong enough to tunnel someone into oblivion (to the point of calling people who defend him LOVERS).

3: Checking who was viewing the thread not so long ago is a bad way to read people.
Right. But that's not alignment indicative at all, and has no relevance to a case against him.

4: I scum lean on Ozy because I don't like the intent that I'm getting from his post (the first one).
Same argument as before, just repeated. Also notice the "I think MM - Ozy is TvS" repeated twice at least in the post, that's fluffy and there is no REAL explaination, just stating thoughts that don't have links between them. Fair, but not a case, once again.

5: I scum read Ozy
Fair, but that's still not a case!

6: I think scum!ozy would do a gambit with charts.
Again, the first post, and the "I don't like charts".

7 - 13: A lot of stating that Ozy is scum, but with no real case-making, once again. "You were right when you pushed PTB in that way in some game, so I think you're doing the same with Ozy and are right again" is not a case. Arguing with Ozy on theory points is not a case.


All this proves is that you pushed Ozy, and if you consider that to be your exhaustive case, well, congratulations! You're just proved my point : your push revolves solely around "I don't like Ozy's first post, and I don't like the charts that come from it. I see a scum intent behind that."

That's a fair reason for a medium scumread. For a vote, maybe, too. But for the death tunnel of oblivion, for calling people who defend him lover with scum!ozy, for saying "YOU ARE IGNORING MY CASE!!!!!" and supposedly raging at people because they don't "acknowledge" your very few, poorly explained and poorly detailed points? No way. @Chip Skylark That's what you're trusting, really? Look at the case. This is the post, btw : www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/45795-S-FM-292-Silent-Night-14P?p=841332&viewfull=1#post841332


@Light_Yagami You too, look at it if you still have doubts.

You disregard all of my points and just turn them into I scum read Ozy for the list. You're mechanically scum here due to being in a list from a caroler that 2 of the players in that list flipped town. You completely ignored the last 5-6 quotes with more different reasoning and substance as to why I thought ozy was scum. and can only come up with You scum read ozy because of the list lol. It doesn't revolve around ozys first post. That's a straight up lie and proves that you're only reading/cherry picking what you want to make me look scummy. All my logic here and reasons here you ignore LOL.

Originally Posted by blinkskater

You can't be bothered eh? Okay I will advocate your lynch more heavily then and let's see can be bothered to try and prevent that.

I also know I am not scum but can see the obvious world that would make players think I'm aligned there. As far as caustic goes I have reason to believe he's town.

So without your explanations as to why you think he's scum and why caustic (aside from the obvious fact that he's not voting huey) is his partner, then I am going to assume you can't fabricate any reason and are what I call a "frozen" wolf, because yeah I still think you're a wolf.

Originally Posted by blinkskater

Your twisting things here. Putting in effort to the game is 100% NAI.

I did NOT read your opening post as scummy because of EFFORT, I made that clear. So I am no hypocrite here you are just a word twisting scum. I read the intent behind your opening post as scummy you can go back to the first page and re-read that for your proof.

You've been giving me the impression that you cherry pick certain things people say and twist them into scum sided points. I feel you ignore a LOT of things people say and only focus on the points you pick and twist. There's tons of resistance to your lynch, and I also saw Varcron come at me with shade on day one and day 2 while I was pushing at you. I sense a potential team between Varcron and you.

You were also VERY VERY hesitant to give a solid read on me and when we were arguing yesterday you gave me the feeling that you didn't want to commit to a read on me, and the fact that you said I was open wolfing and weren't trying to gauge my alignment more also struck me as scummy. It seemed from my pov you wanted to discredit me as scummy so the thread would think less of me and my reads. BUt then when it actually came to scum reading me you didn't want any part of it.

We went over this yesterday, have you already forgot?

Originally Posted by blinkskater

I think Varcron is scum with Ozy i've said this already. See my latest post.

You see what Ozy is doing every chance he gets right?

He's taking points that are NAI and scum and town could do and twisting them into absolutes, forgetting about players is scum indicative?

Why? because it was blink who said it? He's twisting EVERYTHING to fit his damn narrative and I need you all to realize this.

Originally Posted by blinkskater

I've played a lot of FM, if I see someone saying someone is open wolfing and acting scummy, then they don't push this player and just let him exist, I scum read that. I also scum read players who seem to start getting really flustered when they have a simple scum read on them.

Originally Posted by blinkskater

Oh now you can be bothered? After I say I'm going to heavily advocate your lynch huh?

You're scum here 100%. So now huey is bussing me when before you said you town read me, now im scum with huey agian because it fits your narrative?

I'm done conversing with you if you're just going to get toxic and tell me to fuck off.

Originally Posted by blinkskater

having an agressive tone is not the same thing as being toxic I'm not telling people to burn in hell i'm playing the game aggressive, did you just put a crack in the meta... are you actually scum with ozy here?

Made a quick ISO as to why we can't trust anything Mag says and that he's promoting a pro MM scum agenda.

Made a quick ISO as to why we can't trust anything Mag says and that he's promoting a pro MM scum agenda.

i'm fucking done

i hope you fucking lose you scum siding neutral

i'm fucking done

i hope you fucking lose you scum siding neutral

[QUOTE=Magoroth;841421]It was clearly a fucking typo. That’s twisting words[/QUOTE]

no I stated that you probablly cant keep ur story straight, thats not fucking twisting words i feel like im arguing with a 2 year old

Originally Posted by Magoroth

It was clearly a fucking typo. That’s twisting words

no I stated that you probablly cant keep ur story straight, thats not fucking twisting words i feel like im arguing with a 2 year old

[QUOTE=Magoroth;841418]Sb16 was not replaced yesterday because the day hadn’t ended. SB16 hasn’t been replaced yet because the day hasn’t ended.
Whats there not to understand?[/QUOTE]

his last post was december 20th since when does 120 hours + of inactivity get you a 100% read on a player. last time I checked it's usually around 48 hours of inactivity a player gets replaced.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Sb16 was not replaced yesterday because the day hadn’t ended. SB16 hasn’t been replaced yet because the day hasn’t ended.
Whats there not to understand?

his last post was december 20th since when does 120 hours + of inactivity get you a 100% read on a player. last time I checked it's usually around 48 hours of inactivity a player gets replaced.

[QUOTE=Magoroth;841416]That was meant to say SolidD lynched Ozy. But I’m the one twisting your words. Okay lol[/QUOTE]

you literally said solid d lynched solid d

i twist no words there

Originally Posted by Magoroth

That was meant to say SolidD lynched Ozy. But I’m the one twisting your words. Okay lol

you literally said solid d lynched solid d

i twist no words there

[QUOTE=Magoroth;841413]Tbh when you scumpaint ebrrything I have to say we can’t ever advance the game. I fail to see how having hard reads on people ‘makes no sense from a town perspective’ but ok.[/QUOTE]

There's a difference here you scum paint everything I say.

I point out inconsistency and incoherence and logical fallacy in what you're saying.

calling someone 100% confirmed town who hasn't posted in 5 days with no mechanical evidence isn't towny nope

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Tbh when you scumpaint ebrrything I have to say we can’t ever advance the game. I fail to see how having hard reads on people ‘makes no sense from a town perspective’ but ok.

There's a difference here you scum paint everything I say.

I point out inconsistency and incoherence and logical fallacy in what you're saying.

calling someone 100% confirmed town who hasn't posted in 5 days with no mechanical evidence isn't towny nope

[QUOTE=Magoroth;841411]If anyone is ignoring logic and reasoning this game, it’s you, blink.
tell me, when does town SolidD FUCKING FLIP on his reads because of you and decide to lynch SolidD? It baffles me as to how you’ve ignored this[/QUOTE]

na bro I looked at every angle of this game up and fucking down.

So solid D lynched solid D eh?

you can't even get your facts straight and are so scum here

Originally Posted by Magoroth

If anyone is ignoring logic and reasoning this game, it’s you, blink.
tell me, when does town SolidD FUCKING FLIP on his reads because of you and decide to lynch SolidD? It baffles me as to how you’ve ignored this

na bro I looked at every angle of this game up and fucking down.

So solid D lynched solid D eh?

you can't even get your facts straight and are so scum here

okay. I'll go there

why do you think sb16 wasn't replaced after 5 days of inactivity?

I got a damn good reason that comes to mind right away, can you think of one mag?

okay. I'll go there

why do you think sb16 wasn't replaced after 5 days of inactivity?

I got a damn good reason that comes to mind right away, can you think of one mag?

[QUOTE=Magoroth;841408]Okay sure, if you look at it mechanically then yes. But I don’t have any mechanics on my side so to me confirmed (something) means something else. In my eyes SB16 is always fucking town and I’m never lynching him ever.[/QUOTE]

that makes 100% zero sense in the eyes of a town player

You're scumsided

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Okay sure, if you look at it mechanically then yes. But I don’t have any mechanics on my side so to me confirmed (something) means something else. In my eyes SB16 is always fucking town and I’m never lynching him ever.

that makes 100% zero sense in the eyes of a town player

You're scumsided

[QUOTE=Magoroth;841405]I’m ignoring the carol because the person who received it is scum. I don’t care as to what the carol says. SolidD. is scum. I literally don’t think you’d refuse to accept or consider such a basic premise as town.[/QUOTE]

Oh here you go again with your 100% shit. Ignoring reasoning and logic isn't pro town. I explained why I thought that solid produced a real carol.

You choose to ignore it.

Ignoring info is anti town.

But again you only follow what ever benefits your wincon

Originally Posted by Magoroth

I’m ignoring the carol because the person who received it is scum. I don’t care as to what the carol says. SolidD. is scum. I literally don’t think you’d refuse to accept or consider such a basic premise as town.

Oh here you go again with your 100% shit. Ignoring reasoning and logic isn't pro town. I explained why I thought that solid produced a real carol.

You choose to ignore it.

Ignoring info is anti town.

But again you only follow what ever benefits your wincon

[QUOTE=Magoroth;841403]Okay I don’t agree, there’s quite a few people alive today who are 100% confirmed town. Sb16 and Kira come to mind, although from your perspective it’s just sb16.[/QUOTE]

lmfao this is a 100% innacurate statement the only CONFIRMED scum mechanically I have is MM.

Aside from myself as town solid is about 99% any of the others could actually be scum here

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Okay I don’t agree, there’s quite a few people alive today who are 100% confirmed town. Sb16 and Kira come to mind, although from your perspective it’s just sb16.

lmfao this is a 100% innacurate statement the only CONFIRMED scum mechanically I have is MM.

Aside from myself as town solid is about 99% any of the others could actually be scum here

[QUOTE=Magoroth;841402]Nah bitch if MM gets lynched I lose no matter what, because I’ll just getnightkilled (or rather Mm will), as they’ll realize I have no more shots. The sad truth is I’m fucked if mm gets lynched.[/QUOTE]

of course if MM is lynched your fucked because you'll be dead along with him

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Nah bitch if MM gets lynched I lose no matter what, because I’ll just getnightkilled (or rather Mm will), as they’ll realize I have no more shots. The sad truth is I’m fucked if mm gets lynched.

of course if MM is lynched your fucked because you'll be dead along with him

[QUOTE=Magoroth;841399]Haha wanna bet?[/QUOTE]

yeah how much

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Haha wanna bet?

yeah how much

[QUOTE=Magoroth;841396]Besides, you expect me to believe you as town would ever get a scum hammered BEFORE EoD? I do t buy that scum.
like literally look at blinks play here, it makes sense for him to claim eh caroled MM as ‘mm is scum from his perspective’. But arguably at this point he should be caroling someone who is 100% town from everyone else’s perspective; someone like SB16. That way he gets himself confirmed and town lynches, idk, I guess MM from his perspective. But this literally doesn’t do shit. Because he’s scum. And he could t have claimed to have given it to anyone else today.
Besides, when does ever town blink derail a scum train twice, townread a scum for getting a carol, get pretty much manipulated by SolidD into voting MM, and then refuse to acknowledge a death? His play makes no sense if he’s actually Caroler, and it proves Voss is scum with him.
kira has been quite towny gut-wise this game, anyone who’s played with him before would agree. SB16 sure did.
MM has indeed been scummy - again, I won’t deny it because it’s absokutrly fucking true. But I can’t ever see him in a team with Huey. I don’t see it happening.
and now, blink trying to get MM lynched is a scum gambit because I refused to side with them. We need the consort that is SolidD today or I’m fucked. Both of the people who said I would have to vote with scum did two things that are extremely anti-town; if I had actually
missed that you shouldn’t have mentioned it. But I’m banking it on me getting extremely lucky with doctor heals and my night action. It’s possible btw, I only have to survive for two nights. Since I’m p confident the scum team is blink/SolidD and Voss here.
blink would never open wolf like that unless we had a deep wolf somewhere - that deep wolf is Voss. At the time, yesterday, I thought it was mM. But that’s obviously not the case.[/QUOTE]

There is nobody 100% confirmed town right now you idiot, I don't even know if MM recieved my carol you idiot. Last night when I was contemplating my action I wasn't sure what was going to happen last night, if I can solve MM I literally solve 2 slots. 2 FUCKING SLOTS, MM AND YOU, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN 2 FUCKING TOWN VOTES. so don't you go trying to tell me that i should have fucking gave a carol to a player thats not even fucking here and hasnt posted for 5 days. and on top ofthat you keep calling the dude 100% conf fucking town for no reason. mag you said it yourself that you will literally scum side if town doesnt do this blah blah blah ILL SCUMSIDE YOU SAID. how is that not fucking anti town and scummy. then you literally said that you only lynched huey because you thought mm and i were partners. how is that pro town. its not. now everyone with their vote on MM your beloved is fucking scum now? any time someone even tries to go against ur scummy ass agenda you literally freak out and flood the thread with literal nonsense. You confidently read a player who hasnt posted in 5 days as 100% town. that never comes from town. i'm always town here and solid is about 99% town as far as the other players it could go any way aside from mm/mag, due to the carol that mag is ignoring aamirus is green and varcrons grean wheich means mm is read.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Besides, you expect me to believe you as town would ever get a scum hammered BEFORE EoD? I do t buy that scum.
like literally look at blinks play here, it makes sense for him to claim eh caroled MM as ‘mm is scum from his perspective’. But arguably at this point he should be caroling someone who is 100% town from everyone else’s perspective; someone like SB16. That way he gets himself confirmed and town lynches, idk, I guess MM from his perspective. But this literally doesn’t do shit. Because he’s scum. And he could t have claimed to have given it to anyone else today.
Besides, when does ever town blink derail a scum train twice, townread a scum for getting a carol, get pretty much manipulated by SolidD into voting MM, and then refuse to acknowledge a death? His play makes no sense if he’s actually Caroler, and it proves Voss is scum with him.
kira has been quite towny gut-wise this game, anyone who’s played with him before would agree. SB16 sure did.
MM has indeed been scummy - again, I won’t deny it because it’s absokutrly fucking true. But I can’t ever see him in a team with Huey. I don’t see it happening.
and now, blink trying to get MM lynched is a scum gambit because I refused to side with them. We need the consort that is SolidD today or I’m fucked. Both of the people who said I would have to vote with scum did two things that are extremely anti-town; if I had actually
missed that you shouldn’t have mentioned it. But I’m banking it on me getting extremely lucky with doctor heals and my night action. It’s possible btw, I only have to survive for two nights. Since I’m p confident the scum team is blink/SolidD and Voss here.
blink would never open wolf like that unless we had a deep wolf somewhere - that deep wolf is Voss. At the time, yesterday, I thought it was mM. But that’s obviously not the case.

There is nobody 100% confirmed town right now you idiot, I don't even know if MM recieved my carol you idiot. Last night when I was contemplating my action I wasn't sure what was going to happen last night, if I can solve MM I literally solve 2 slots. 2 FUCKING SLOTS, MM AND YOU, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN 2 FUCKING TOWN VOTES. so don't you go trying to tell me that i should have fucking gave a carol to a player thats not even fucking here and hasnt posted for 5 days. and on top ofthat you keep calling the dude 100% conf fucking town for no reason. mag you said it yourself that you will literally scum side if town doesnt do this blah blah blah ILL SCUMSIDE YOU SAID. how is that not fucking anti town and scummy. then you literally said that you only lynched huey because you thought mm and i were partners. how is that pro town. its not. now everyone with their vote on MM your beloved is fucking scum now? any time someone even tries to go against ur scummy ass agenda you literally freak out and flood the thread with literal nonsense. You confidently read a player who hasnt posted in 5 days as 100% town. that never comes from town. i'm always town here and solid is about 99% town as far as the other players it could go any way aside from mm/mag, due to the carol that mag is ignoring aamirus is green and varcrons grean wheich means mm is read.

also the way you are literally freaking out in the thread right now means you didn't think MM would be lynched today and you didn't use ur 1 shot thingy last night

also the way you are literally freaking out in the thread right now means you didn't think MM would be lynched today and you didn't use ur 1 shot thingy last night

[QUOTE=Magoroth;841394]HOW THE FUCK DOES BUSSING WORK IF AE CAN LITWRALLY LYNCH YOU OR ANYONE ELSE APART FROM HUS TEAMMATE
WHO THE FUCK BUSSES IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES FOR PETES SAKE
Kira if you’re actually scum you can personally go fuck yourself. But I don’t think you are.[/QUOTE]

HUR DURH BECAUSE LYNCHING HUEY MAKES ME LOOK EXTREMELY BAD AND SETS ME UP AS THE ULTIMATE MISLYNCH BAIT LIKE WHATS FUCKING HAPPENING RIGHT NOW

Originally Posted by Magoroth

HOW THE FUCK DOES BUSSING WORK IF AE CAN LITWRALLY LYNCH YOU OR ANYONE ELSE APART FROM HUS TEAMMATE
WHO THE FUCK BUSSES IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES FOR PETES SAKE
Kira if you’re actually scum you can personally go fuck yourself. But I don’t think you are.

HUR DURH BECAUSE LYNCHING HUEY MAKES ME LOOK EXTREMELY BAD AND SETS ME UP AS THE ULTIMATE MISLYNCH BAIT LIKE WHATS FUCKING HAPPENING RIGHT NOW

[QUOTE=Magoroth;841389]Light literally gamethrew yesterday if Huey was scum. You expect me to believe that.[/QUOTE]

not true there's something called bussing, check the definition if you need to especially with an actress play.

what you're saying is literally a logical fallacy

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Light literally gamethrew yesterday if Huey was scum. You expect me to believe that.

not true there's something called bussing, check the definition if you need to especially with an actress play.

what you're saying is literally a logical fallacy

[QUOTE=Magoroth;841385]It’s also disingenuous if you pull the ‘ I got sucmpainted d1 by mag’ card because literally multiple people - aamirus, who you townread, Skylark who from your perspective is probably town- agreed with me. Yes nobody tried to lynch you, that was my mistake. But you refused to acknowledge Efe’s death after it happened AND DID NOT LOOK AT HUEY WHO STRONGLY DEFENDED EFE.[/QUOTE]

you lie i acknowledged efes death and huey for it. You're trying to say that not acknowledging a death makes someone scum? There's that shitty logic again.

when you are falsely calling out reads on someone, that you yourself know are bullshit and get called out for your bull shit maybe you should do that if you don't wanna get scumread for it holy shit

Originally Posted by Magoroth

It’s also disingenuous if you pull the ‘ I got sucmpainted d1 by mag’ card because literally multiple people - aamirus, who you townread, Skylark who from your perspective is probably town- agreed with me. Yes nobody tried to lynch you, that was my mistake. But you refused to acknowledge Efe’s death after it happened AND DID NOT LOOK AT HUEY WHO STRONGLY DEFENDED EFE.

you lie i acknowledged efes death and huey for it. You're trying to say that not acknowledging a death makes someone scum? There's that shitty logic again.

when you are falsely calling out reads on someone, that you yourself know are bullshit and get called out for your bull shit maybe you should do that if you don't wanna get scumread for it holy shit

[QUOTE=Magoroth;841386]Ozy did not play anti town where the fuck are you getting this from, OZY GOT LYNCHED FOR BEING TOO FUCKING TOWNY AND NOBODY WAS ABLE TO GIVE A CONCRETE REASON AS TO WHY HE GOT LYNCHED.[/QUOTE]

ozy was so fucking anti town and scummy dude i gave a bunch of reasons why ozy was scum see my wall post of quotes.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Ozy did not play anti town where the fuck are you getting this from, OZY GOT LYNCHED FOR BEING TOO FUCKING TOWNY AND NOBODY WAS ABLE TO GIVE A CONCRETE REASON AS TO WHY HE GOT LYNCHED.

ozy was so fucking anti town and scummy dude i gave a bunch of reasons why ozy was scum see my wall post of quotes.

[QUOTE=Magoroth;841381]Name one fucking way I was scummy d1/d2. Even on d3 I pushed HARD for what I believed to be a scum lynch.[/QUOTE]

you said you will scum side.

your read on me being cautious was fabricated BS

your logic made zero sense

You only care about MM regardless of his alignment

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Name one fucking way I was scummy d1/d2. Even on d3 I pushed HARD for what I believed to be a scum lynch.

you said you will scum side.

your read on me being cautious was fabricated BS

your logic made zero sense

You only care about MM regardless of his alignment

[QUOTE=Magoroth;841382]I’m sorry but I’m not the motherfucker that got Pzy lynched. Explain how that is protown.[/QUOTE]

I pushed a valid scumread and he flipped town?

That's what players on this site get for playing anti town and scummy then actually flip town. Same thing with efe.

You fucking literally proclaimed to the thread.

I WILL SCUM SIDE IF U VOTE MM WAAAAAAAAAH

Originally Posted by Magoroth

I’m sorry but I’m not the motherfucker that got Pzy lynched. Explain how that is protown.

I pushed a valid scumread and he flipped town?

That's what players on this site get for playing anti town and scummy then actually flip town. Same thing with efe.

You fucking literally proclaimed to the thread.

I WILL SCUM SIDE IF U VOTE MM WAAAAAAAAAH

[QUOTE=Magoroth;841378]Where the fuck have you been gamesolving bitch, I literally did more of that than you have and I never derailed a scum train for no reason, and I never even do much as tried to lynch Ozy for no reason. All my pushes have had honest reasoning behind them, ALL of them, I’ve literally always voted with the town apart from yesterday, where, again, if I were Town i wouldve votes YOU.
explainthis to me;
obviously kira is scum with MM if he’s scum here. But then why the fuck would he vote his own fucking teammate yesterday?[/QUOTE]

you ignore every post i make i got no problem repeating myself for your stupid ass. kira could be town ive said that already but you seem to 100% know everyones role right? you literally say you will scum side to threaten the town and then say that you didnt vote me because you thought Iwas scum, you have zer0 credibillity.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Where the fuck have you been gamesolving bitch, I literally did more of that than you have and I never derailed a scum train for no reason, and I never even do much as tried to lynch Ozy for no reason. All my pushes have had honest reasoning behind them, ALL of them, I’ve literally always voted with the town apart from yesterday, where, again, if I were Town i wouldve votes YOU.
explainthis to me;
obviously kira is scum with MM if he’s scum here. But then why the fuck would he vote his own fucking teammate yesterday?

you ignore every post i make i got no problem repeating myself for your stupid ass. kira could be town ive said that already but you seem to 100% know everyones role right? you literally say you will scum side to threaten the town and then say that you didnt vote me because you thought Iwas scum, you have zer0 credibillity.

Mag you've been hands down the scummiest most anti town player in this game going on 4 days and still think you have a voice?

Mag you've been hands down the scummiest most anti town player in this game going on 4 days and still think you have a voice?

[QUOTE=Magoroth;841372]Dude, you think MM is scum, right? Then why not give the carol to SB16 who is 100% town here. That would just reveal you as town.[/QUOTE]

lol now sb16 is 100% town I love how you came to that conclusion you make zero sense

Originally Posted by Magoroth

Dude, you think MM is scum, right? Then why not give the carol to SB16 who is 100% town here. That would just reveal you as town.

lol now sb16 is 100% town I love how you came to that conclusion you make zero sense

[QUOTE=Magoroth;841374]no I don’t, I just have to very lucky to win. And I had to lynch the consort[/QUOTE]

negative.

Originally Posted by Magoroth

no I don’t, I just have to very lucky to win. And I had to lynch the consort

negative.